REPORT AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS CAMPAIGN
Lets seriously begin a public campaign(instead of the uneffective police campaign) that demands an end to aggressive driving in Qatar. The campaign would see huge numbers of the expat population demand severe police intervention and harsher penalties to aggressive drivers as well as a call line to report aggressive drivers. Enforcement is the key and Qatar Police dont seem to have the testicular fortitude to take some serious, forceful, effective action. The campaign would also fight to have locals (even Royal Family) be given the same treatment. That power must be given to the police. So who agrees to this?
The solution?
There's a single SOLUTION:
POLICE TO RECRUIT ONLY QATARIS!!!
Agreed with looking here. ALL agressive drivers should be MAROVED from the roads :P tsk tsk!
I once kept license numbers and tried to call a number that was published to report aggressive drivers, no one picks up!!! So as usual a joke. Sorry nothing will change anytime soon I am afraid, and its critical for it to change as the population has expanded but the infrastructure is still small. Just is not going to be a quick resolution here.
1 wreckless bastard bicycle driver hit me this morning huhuuhuhu..to where i should call on this? huhuhu
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its not just qataris but anyone in a big car, any nationality drives as if he rules the road. i have personally come across many LC's, assumed it to be a local but no it mostly turned out to be a mallu or a white (no racism here but just stating the fact).
some locals do drive crazy but they have many similar expats who match them in everything except the thobe.
CAMPAIGN (if there is one) SHOULD BE AGAINST ALL AGGRESSIVE DRIVERS INSTEAD OF A CAMPAIGN AGAINST QATARIS.
i'd say good luck with this suggestion by the forum poster and DREAM ON! reality bites my friend. local or expat driver alike there will always be blatant ignorant idiot drivers on doha roads. just be responsible in driving and try to stay away as much as you can from these people.
'SO DARK THE CON OF MAN'
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another harsh penalties? why not translate road signs in arabic and hindi(suggestion only)
just implement strict licensing procedure to both (local & expat)...and always GIVEWAY TO PEDESTRIAN..(respect)
Oh nice .. I'll be watching this thread regularly to see if such a campaign takes off.
I've some nosy n dutty neighbors that borrowed a wok from me a couple of months ago and haven't returned it yet. I'mna report them for aggressive driving. I guess I should use a pay phone to do that :-/
Owwwwwwww.... snow,
I failed.
Will give it 200% next time...
Sorry dude...your threat is not believable.....not enough phelgm in the name ;P
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IF YOU REPORT ME...
(achmed dead terrorist voice)
I KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YOUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!
IF this is to work (which I sincerely doubt), can someone CLEARLY define exactly what agreesive driving means? To one, it may mean completely different to another.
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I am shakkkinnnggg all over.. Just got back from work.. Nearly run off the road by a road hog who came up behind me at speed flashing his lights.. I hit the kerb, but luckily the Momos on my KIA were not damaged..By the time I recovered controlm the Suzuki Alto was gone in a distance :o(
Be careful out there..
Hmm, I didn't realize that wreckless,hazardous, lethal driving was a part of this culture and something that you value as a society. Very interesting. Get off of the street if you don't like it? So, too bad if you feel you are risking your life everytime you get in a car?
It is this kind of thinking that hurts this society. And sadly, as I said before, it seems the only thing that will give you pause, and help you to shift your perspective, is when you are personally touched by the tragic death of a person whom you deeply care about. And it will be all so senseless and needless. But hey, you have your cultural values to uphold.
Tackling the issue of aggressive deadly driving here in Qatar is no easy feat. The police are the worst violaters in my opinion and definitly do not set any sort of good example for safe responsible driving. The youths that are just getting their licenses will all follow the example that their parents and fellow countrymen have set, which is to think that by driving a large vehicle they are safe and can run you off the road. Turn the landrovers into a lethal weapon- which, they are. Unfortunately many more high profile Qatari citizens, and their children will need to be killed in horrific accidents, or maimed for life, before someone comes to the realization that the blood is on their hands, and then, just maybe some real enforcement will occur. And yes, I have been told several times from Qatari Nationals that they do not have to pay for their offenses should they choose to pursue it.
Exactly, popcorn.
Their country, their way.
Get over it.
it is their country they can and do what the bloody hell they like when they like as long as they get away with it (which they do) but as soon as an ex-pat 'wrongs' we are thrown out at best or thrown in jail.
Some criticise the West and our ways and quite rightly so; for some things but are they are no different.
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brother it is not that easy
Just remember You are not living in a DEMOCRATIC Country
so just relax
anywayz if you got some good response do let me know if i can do anythin except driving safe coz i do the same
I've got in to the car with Qatari friends and they've peeled the violations off their windows and laughed. I asked why, and they tell me that they can ring their friend in the traffic department and cancel them.
I don't know whether or not Qataris can get their violations reversed, but my Qatari friends seem to think that they can. They don't give a crap about the road rules. Never have, and I fear they never will.
And, for once, I am talking exclusively about Qatari nationals in this instance. Not all or most of my Qatari friends, but a worrying number all the same.
campaign, propaganda, stop lights, radars, cameras will work because they know they can get away it. all violations they made was just a phone call away and it will disappear from the records. =(
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and they have to be willing to apply the laws equally.
I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Why do people think that locals don't get the same penalties? You guys seriously need help. If you don't like the aggressive driving, get off the streets. I'm an aggressive drive, unfortunately, but that's just me - especially when I'm in a bad mood.
unless he threatened her or tried to kidnap her. Harassment does happen, but I never experienced as much of it in the States. I don't think it usually goes as far because of a few factors. One would be the socialization of men who grow up around women and share similar social skills. The other would be that there is not the perception that non-Muslim women are sluts (like there is in a very small but irritating portion of the population here).
And btw, I am not referring to Qataris when I say the population here. I personally haven't been harassed by any Qatari men but have been by some other nationalities, as well as some silly Qatari young teens (but that is to be expected to some degree by young boys growing up).
I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM
True, PM. Perhaps rather than 'leering', I should have used the example of someone following a woman to her car, making suggestive remarks, and then following her in her car to her house. I wonder if that's a crime in other countries? I can't really think of it happening where I'm from. I imagine if it happened to someone back home they would call the police and maybe try to get a restraining order.
I figure this is the kind of country where traffic policing now no longer involves actual police. There are red light cameras and fixed speed cameras, but no actual police.
Is this a country where there a random speed cameras, or fixed speed cameras?
Is this a country where people are affraid of talking on their mobile while driving, in case they get a ticket?
Are people here scared about driving without their seatbelt, in case they get a ticket?
And people would never dare to let their kids jump about in the front and back of the car rather than buckling them up?
Honestly, if the police *wanted* to crack down on reckless drivers, they would. But based on the most basic of observations, you can only assume that road safety here is a token gesture.
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Don't hold too long the flight that is waiting for you.
power to the people :)
great idea and who will be the one taking the actions and being the one speaking out for the rest of us ... and how will you take actions against royals , i mean on the end this country belongs to them and as you can see they can do what they want to , for the most part .... great idea but who will have the power to run this campaign ???
someone for leering, fubar.
I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM
is totally wrong with the system here is that a Qatari can call and report someone for making a hand gesture while driving and that person gets a ticket or arrested...How many other countries allow that to happen and how many people abuse that?
And yes, it DOES happen...
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.
-Mark Twain-
I'm not saying that *all* (or most, or even a significant minority) the locals do those things.
However, you have to admit... the police are out there, they have significant powers, but do they arrest people in carparks for leering? For that matter, how often do locals or ex-pats scold men from leering at women?
And if obscenely dangerous driving wasn't 'accepted' here, then why don't the police stamp it out, and why don't parents raise their children to be responsible drivers?
How many times have we had threads on QL about how a driver can kill someone and walk away with no jail time?
If dangerous driving wasn't 'accepted', don't you think that there would be harsher sentences for these killers on wheels?
fubar,
So our cultural norms and "accepted, local customs" are leering at women, following them in carparks,
raping filipinas, and bad driving.
You seem to think that the actions of some people here automatically make them accepted local customs.
It's possible...
Which country again???
Qatar???
Oh no... i make mistake...
It's impossible!!! :)
you have to get the police on board. Multiple reports of plate numbers by different complainants at different times could lead to calling that driver to come in a take a class on safe driving.
I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM
This country is the way it is, because those in power like it that way.
Trying to change the culture is like beating your head against the wall - you won't get anywhere, but you will get a headache.
yes, that seems to be they're reasoning:
"if you hadn't come here in the first place, you wouldn't have been involved in an accident," or whatever..
This thread is no different to the one about ex-pat women being leered at.
The conclusion of that thread was that treating women in such (following them in carparks etc) is a cultural norm and what right do expats have to tamper with accepted, local customs?
Driving is the same. Lots of people here drive badly. It's the cultural norm. Expats shouldn't here and expect everything to be like home. They should get used to it, or leave, or so the reasoning goes.
Filipinas who don't like being raped shouldn't complain, they should go home, just like ex-pats who don't like being killed on the roads shouldn't complain, they should go home.
And remember, there are bad drivers everywhere.
Blah blah.
rust,
So basically it's a campaign for expats to report any local who has the audacity to drive while being local?
You're saying: The campaign would see huge numbers of the expat population demand severe police intervention and harsher penalties to locals (even Royal Family). (I just removed some useless filler text)
OUCH!---but then again, the truth hurts. ;)
Let's just apply the same reasoning that is spurted out the minute anyone critizes this country. It would go something like this:
There are agressive drivers in every country...
If you don't like it, go home...
There are more road deaths in the US/UK/whichever country...
Drivers aren't worse here than overseas...
Blah blah blah.
Then we can go back to burying our heads in the sand until the next high profile Minister gets killed by a lunatic driver.
WELL not me till NOW!! I always saw them without seat belt and many times on the mobile!!!SO WHOM TO REPORT FIRST?
Impossible.............
hmm there are idiot drivers, arrogant drivers, reckless drivers, and drivers who got no effing clue as to what they are doing... if you manage to get rid of them, Doha roads will be almost empty.. :P
You are dreaming, there are no aggressive drivers in Qatar.
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