Wake up and move into the year 2009, for god sake Scarlett it nearly 2010.. love your kids , there are so many uneducated back landers here...god help you all
no my 4 year old son will not be having the seasonal flu vaccine. he's a perfectly fit and healthy little boy who is more than capable of fighting the flu on his own.
He's up to date with all his vaccinations that were recommended in the UK so i see no need for this vaccine.
p.s to the poster that said all parents that said no to vaccines were the type or parents that didnt strap their kids in, well you're WRONG, VERY wrong! both my children wear seat belts and sit in the appropriate car seat restraints. wind your neck in and keep stupid comments to yourself! they don't help anybody.
Jackfrost...why don't you sit up and smell the roses or BS in this case...
I ALWAYS put my kids in car seats from the time they came home from the hospital. I also always got them their innoculations at the time directed by the Health Department in the US.
I also KNOW what happened in 1975 because I lived it. So before you go on about how everyone who says NO isn't right...guess again and pull your head out of your own rear end. I won't fall for all the propaganda and scare tactics at the risk of my health and those of my family. Nor will I be a guinea pig for a vaccine that hasn't been tested enough.
As far as the seasonal flu shot...its up to the individual if they take it or not...not up to you as a mental midget to put others down for saying no to being basically forced to get it.
Reading the comments from people that say NO. I feel I really am living in the back woods of a 3rd rate country, if you love your kids you will have the shot, but you people that commented NO are also the same people that drive around with your kids not seat belted in… so your comments do not carry any weight with me… get educated and see the difference
In US more and more adults are taking yearly flu shots regularly. Problem is that once you take it, you need to take it yearly because that will lower your immune system. On top of it people who took the vaccine will still get the flu. No one knows why. It looks like the only benefit for flu shots is to make more money for the producer of that vaccine.
When it come to children you have to be very careful. You dont want to lower their immune system at this age. The best thing to handle this issue to through education. Educate your children, teacher and school to observe the sanitary rules in their daily life. Wash your hand regularly -- No side effects. Cover your mouth when you sneeze -- good manners and all the other goodies that are in the posters distributed to everywhere.
One of you asked what problems can come from the flu vaccine.....a LOT, mainly Gillian Barrie Syndrome....read the article..
The 1975 Swine Flu debacle
By Grattan Woodson, MD, FACP
The consequences to bureaucrats who needlessly warn the public about flu pandemics that fail to occur are seared into the US CDC’s institutional memory. In 1975 an American solder stationed in US died of influenza and an evaluation proved the organism responsible was H1N1 Swine Flu, a strain that was similar to the one that caused of the infamous 1918 Spanish Influenza that killed 80 million people worldwide.
CDC experts predicted a severe pandemic was possible and put on a big push to vaccinate the nation. At that time there were over 20 licensed influenza vaccine manufacturers in the US so it was relatively easy for them to significantly up production from their usual order of about 50 million doses to 150 million. President Ford put his prestige behind the vaccination campaign by inviting TV cameras into the oval office so the nation could watch him get his shot. Speeches and public service announces were made imploring one and all to get a flu shot.
Alas, the pandemic didn’t develop. After about 40 million Americans had been vaccinated, the campaign fizzled when their was a higher than usual incidence of serious but rare complication of vaccination, Gillian Barrie Syndrome. The political fallout was toxic. The public blamed the politicians who took it out on the CDC public health officials. It was a mess. Plaintiff’s attorneys sued the vaccine makers on behalf of those who were injured or dead due to Gillian Barrie Syndrome. The government refused to buy the unused 110 million doses of flu vaccine the manufacturers had made at the CDC’s request. The pharmaceutical industry soured on the flu vaccine business given the circumstances with many abandoning this aspect of their business.
These unfortunate events of the past are part of the reason we have been having flu vaccine shortages for the past few years and will not be able to make near enough bird flu vaccine to cope with a bird flu pandemic should the need arise. The first unforeseen consequence of the debacle has been the collapse of the nation’s flu vaccine manufacturing capacity. It never recovered from this disaster with all but one (Sanofi Pasteur) of the twenty companies in the US licensed to make vaccine then leaving the business by 2005. A second consequence affecting us today has been the lack of new money invested in research and development into new ways to manufacture flu vaccine. Only 1 company (MedImmune) has invested in this research resulting in a new attenuated live flu virus vaccine since 1975.
The lack of research and development explains why world flu vaccine production remains constrained by the use of a 50-year-old technique for flu vaccine production within fertilized chicken eggs. This method is inefficient and makes it difficult to increase production of larger quantities of vaccine. Since bird flu has an almost 100% fatality rate for poultry, there is even a chance that the hundreds of millions of fertilized chicken eggs needed for world flu vaccine production annually could be threatened. That’s a lot of eggs! Modern vaccines for hepatitis for instance are produced in cell cultures or grown in bacteria using recombinant DNA or RNA methods that allow for production to be scaled up to whatever quantity is required.
When pharmaceutical companies were asked recently why they left the flu vaccine business, the most common reason given was they were not able to make a sufficient return on their money to justify the investment. Some reasons for this included the fact that seasonal demand for influenza vaccine was unreliable often leaving them holding a large unsold inventory at the end of the year. The profit margin on flu vaccine was too low and the risk for significant malpractice litigation associated with the product too high for them to return to the business.
These concerns were addressed by the US Government recently when new legislation authorized the US Department of Health and Human Services to place orders for bird flu vaccine produced in the old fashioned way with a guarantee of payment to the manufacturers. Money was also authorized by the US Congress to fund research and development into new cell-culture based flu vaccine production methods. Contracts for these were announced in May 2006. For the first time, influenza vaccine manufacturers were also granted protect from malpractice lawsuits in the authorizing legislation.
The results of these actions by the US Government are very likely to revolutionize the way flu vaccine is manufactured and possibly even lead to marked reduction in the threat faced from both seasonal and pandemic flu in the future. The problem for us is these innovations will take at least several years before the fruit of this work becomes available; too late for this pandemic. For these actions to have been of benefit for us today, they would have had to been begun 5 years ago. Of course then, there was no urgency to act as there is today with the bird flu pandemic knocking on our door.
Attempting to innoculate all students against the flu, is in all reality, about as futile as finding a needle in a haystack. There are so many different strains of flu out there, that the one they are making the injection for is just a GUESS as to which strain will hit here. In all actuality(if you check with the health officials worldwide, not just here in Qatar), the elderly and extremely young, should get the injection. Or, if you or your child has respiratory problems or prior health issues, get the injection.
I find it rather interesting that the swine flu has been around for over 30 years but just this year its made the news again and the media is acting like it something new. I remember getting the injection for it when I was a freshman in college because health officials were scared it was going to hit. Its nothing new, just now more widely publicized. My sister and her future husband also received the injection. They got ill, ran fever of 102 degrees Farenheit, and I had to take care of them for 3 days while they recovered from the injection itself. It did nothing to me. And for the record...the swine flu DIDN'T hit hard that year, in fact, it just kinda got forgotten by the media because it wasn't a big news story.
I also have been the lucky recipient of a flu injection and STILL got the flu 2 months later. That would have been the strain that WASN'T on the list of most likely to hit the area I lived in, obviously.
That being said...parents, YOU are the only ones who can make this decision for your children. Weigh the risks and the potential benefits...then decide. Do research on the internet for the pros and cons.
This is a seasonal flu vaccine and not the Swine Flu vaccine (which is still under trial).
My kids have had the flu shots before in US and it has been helpful. I have given the consent, so that we can avoid this. Flu can be risky for kids below 5 and adults over 65. Each year quite a few people die because of seasonal Flu.
I am not signing the paper, this vaccine is for seasonal flu, not for H1N1. It has also certain side effects. "GOD IS GREAT" he will take care our kids.
Our sons school has sent home paperwork for us to sign giving consent for the flu shot to be given, we have said no because I don't think its a very safe idea. The boys have told me tonight that most of their friends are not going to be having it either.. hope this helps you with your decision
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Wake up and move into the year 2009, for god sake Scarlett it nearly 2010.. love your kids , there are so many uneducated back landers here...god help you all
no my 4 year old son will not be having the seasonal flu vaccine. he's a perfectly fit and healthy little boy who is more than capable of fighting the flu on his own.
He's up to date with all his vaccinations that were recommended in the UK so i see no need for this vaccine.
p.s to the poster that said all parents that said no to vaccines were the type or parents that didnt strap their kids in, well you're WRONG, VERY wrong! both my children wear seat belts and sit in the appropriate car seat restraints. wind your neck in and keep stupid comments to yourself! they don't help anybody.
Jackfrost...why don't you sit up and smell the roses or BS in this case...
I ALWAYS put my kids in car seats from the time they came home from the hospital. I also always got them their innoculations at the time directed by the Health Department in the US.
I also KNOW what happened in 1975 because I lived it. So before you go on about how everyone who says NO isn't right...guess again and pull your head out of your own rear end. I won't fall for all the propaganda and scare tactics at the risk of my health and those of my family. Nor will I be a guinea pig for a vaccine that hasn't been tested enough.
As far as the seasonal flu shot...its up to the individual if they take it or not...not up to you as a mental midget to put others down for saying no to being basically forced to get it.
Dear All,
I am working in the health care industry
i have signed the papaer and my son will get the vaccine
please dont think the data you collect from internet is prepared and written by scientists or doctors or reseach scholars .
one of the other best thing you can do is to give more physical activity for your kids as well as for yourself
impove their health and immunity
The decision is yours wether to beleive in rumours or to beleive in the professionals
Regards,
Vinod
Reading the comments from people that say NO. I feel I really am living in the back woods of a 3rd rate country, if you love your kids you will have the shot, but you people that commented NO are also the same people that drive around with your kids not seat belted in… so your comments do not carry any weight with me… get educated and see the difference
In US more and more adults are taking yearly flu shots regularly. Problem is that once you take it, you need to take it yearly because that will lower your immune system. On top of it people who took the vaccine will still get the flu. No one knows why. It looks like the only benefit for flu shots is to make more money for the producer of that vaccine.
When it come to children you have to be very careful. You dont want to lower their immune system at this age. The best thing to handle this issue to through education. Educate your children, teacher and school to observe the sanitary rules in their daily life. Wash your hand regularly -- No side effects. Cover your mouth when you sneeze -- good manners and all the other goodies that are in the posters distributed to everywhere.
Dont just read ... follow it !!!
Seasonal Flu Shots Double Risk of Getting Swine Flu, Says New Study
Source: http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/10/04/1344259/Seasonal-Flu-Shots-Double-Risk-of-Getting-Swine-Flu-Says-New-Study
here you go...did it for you!!
One of you asked what problems can come from the flu vaccine.....a LOT, mainly Gillian Barrie Syndrome....read the article..
The 1975 Swine Flu debacle
By Grattan Woodson, MD, FACP
The consequences to bureaucrats who needlessly warn the public about flu pandemics that fail to occur are seared into the US CDC’s institutional memory. In 1975 an American solder stationed in US died of influenza and an evaluation proved the organism responsible was H1N1 Swine Flu, a strain that was similar to the one that caused of the infamous 1918 Spanish Influenza that killed 80 million people worldwide.
CDC experts predicted a severe pandemic was possible and put on a big push to vaccinate the nation. At that time there were over 20 licensed influenza vaccine manufacturers in the US so it was relatively easy for them to significantly up production from their usual order of about 50 million doses to 150 million. President Ford put his prestige behind the vaccination campaign by inviting TV cameras into the oval office so the nation could watch him get his shot. Speeches and public service announces were made imploring one and all to get a flu shot.
Alas, the pandemic didn’t develop. After about 40 million Americans had been vaccinated, the campaign fizzled when their was a higher than usual incidence of serious but rare complication of vaccination, Gillian Barrie Syndrome. The political fallout was toxic. The public blamed the politicians who took it out on the CDC public health officials. It was a mess. Plaintiff’s attorneys sued the vaccine makers on behalf of those who were injured or dead due to Gillian Barrie Syndrome. The government refused to buy the unused 110 million doses of flu vaccine the manufacturers had made at the CDC’s request. The pharmaceutical industry soured on the flu vaccine business given the circumstances with many abandoning this aspect of their business.
These unfortunate events of the past are part of the reason we have been having flu vaccine shortages for the past few years and will not be able to make near enough bird flu vaccine to cope with a bird flu pandemic should the need arise. The first unforeseen consequence of the debacle has been the collapse of the nation’s flu vaccine manufacturing capacity. It never recovered from this disaster with all but one (Sanofi Pasteur) of the twenty companies in the US licensed to make vaccine then leaving the business by 2005. A second consequence affecting us today has been the lack of new money invested in research and development into new ways to manufacture flu vaccine. Only 1 company (MedImmune) has invested in this research resulting in a new attenuated live flu virus vaccine since 1975.
The lack of research and development explains why world flu vaccine production remains constrained by the use of a 50-year-old technique for flu vaccine production within fertilized chicken eggs. This method is inefficient and makes it difficult to increase production of larger quantities of vaccine. Since bird flu has an almost 100% fatality rate for poultry, there is even a chance that the hundreds of millions of fertilized chicken eggs needed for world flu vaccine production annually could be threatened. That’s a lot of eggs! Modern vaccines for hepatitis for instance are produced in cell cultures or grown in bacteria using recombinant DNA or RNA methods that allow for production to be scaled up to whatever quantity is required.
When pharmaceutical companies were asked recently why they left the flu vaccine business, the most common reason given was they were not able to make a sufficient return on their money to justify the investment. Some reasons for this included the fact that seasonal demand for influenza vaccine was unreliable often leaving them holding a large unsold inventory at the end of the year. The profit margin on flu vaccine was too low and the risk for significant malpractice litigation associated with the product too high for them to return to the business.
These concerns were addressed by the US Government recently when new legislation authorized the US Department of Health and Human Services to place orders for bird flu vaccine produced in the old fashioned way with a guarantee of payment to the manufacturers. Money was also authorized by the US Congress to fund research and development into new cell-culture based flu vaccine production methods. Contracts for these were announced in May 2006. For the first time, influenza vaccine manufacturers were also granted protect from malpractice lawsuits in the authorizing legislation.
The results of these actions by the US Government are very likely to revolutionize the way flu vaccine is manufactured and possibly even lead to marked reduction in the threat faced from both seasonal and pandemic flu in the future. The problem for us is these innovations will take at least several years before the fruit of this work becomes available; too late for this pandemic. For these actions to have been of benefit for us today, they would have had to been begun 5 years ago. Of course then, there was no urgency to act as there is today with the bird flu pandemic knocking on our door.
By the way...if you don't believe what I said about the swine flu being around for a very long time...google swine flu 1975...you'll find it there.
Attempting to innoculate all students against the flu, is in all reality, about as futile as finding a needle in a haystack. There are so many different strains of flu out there, that the one they are making the injection for is just a GUESS as to which strain will hit here. In all actuality(if you check with the health officials worldwide, not just here in Qatar), the elderly and extremely young, should get the injection. Or, if you or your child has respiratory problems or prior health issues, get the injection.
I find it rather interesting that the swine flu has been around for over 30 years but just this year its made the news again and the media is acting like it something new. I remember getting the injection for it when I was a freshman in college because health officials were scared it was going to hit. Its nothing new, just now more widely publicized. My sister and her future husband also received the injection. They got ill, ran fever of 102 degrees Farenheit, and I had to take care of them for 3 days while they recovered from the injection itself. It did nothing to me. And for the record...the swine flu DIDN'T hit hard that year, in fact, it just kinda got forgotten by the media because it wasn't a big news story.
I also have been the lucky recipient of a flu injection and STILL got the flu 2 months later. That would have been the strain that WASN'T on the list of most likely to hit the area I lived in, obviously.
That being said...parents, YOU are the only ones who can make this decision for your children. Weigh the risks and the potential benefits...then decide. Do research on the internet for the pros and cons.
ok we must calculate the benefit/risk ok?
is the side effect will kill us?
if not it is better to take the vaccin what do you think?
(sorry my english is beginner) thanks
I didnt agree, NO i wont let my kid have it...he also have form to be signed, but i disagreed!
This is a seasonal flu vaccine and not the Swine Flu vaccine (which is still under trial).
My kids have had the flu shots before in US and it has been helpful. I have given the consent, so that we can avoid this. Flu can be risky for kids below 5 and adults over 65. Each year quite a few people die because of seasonal Flu.
I am not signing the paper, this vaccine is for seasonal flu, not for H1N1. It has also certain side effects. "GOD IS GREAT" he will take care our kids.
so let us all gear up to inculcate good cleanliness habits in ourselves and our kids to safeguard all of us from swine flu.
not me! can't risk a jab to my kids away fm my eyes.
why we have apprehensions for flu vaccine
Our sons school has sent home paperwork for us to sign giving consent for the flu shot to be given, we have said no because I don't think its a very safe idea. The boys have told me tonight that most of their friends are not going to be having it either.. hope this helps you with your decision