Facebook Problem with domestic helper
We have a good philipino maid that we got through an agency last year.
We are a small family and with minimal house work, and both of my kids go to school and I work.
Recently, she got a smart phone and has been heavily using Facebook...to the extent that she started to care less about the kids and leave them more than once unattended. She is always taking photos of herself whenever we go out and continuosly online through the operator's free WAP.
I checked her profile and in 1 week her friends grew from 900 to more than 1300 !!
I explained to her last week that she is not supposed to do that while she is attending to the kids, and that she has plenty of time in the morning while they are at school and in the afternoon after they sleep
She said she was sorry and will not do this again. Unfortunately, she never stopped.
Yesterday, I took her phone after she spend more than 25 min in a public bathroom taking photos of her self and facebooking while leaving the kid sitting on the basin bench.
I confronted her that this is not acceptable and she is free to go if she wants, but if she stays she has to follow house rules and facebook will not be allowed.
I am not sure what to do with her, need advice from people who might have had similar experiences.
(BTW she said she wants to stay.. but she is not sure .. she needs to check with her parents who (As she said) might ask her to come back.
Your first responsibility is to your children! If she is distracted from her duties looking after them and will not listen, Get rid of her. If you don’t you have only yourself to blame in the event something bad happens! There are many people looking for work. I am sure you can fine someone that will take responsibility for her work.
You should sack her immediately. Don't pay her even one riyal. She has abused your trust.
Sir,
I working in qatar now i need to go to exit,If I go exit how many month i can retan form Qatar
yeah, u did the right way..restrict facebook..i dont have one
her behaviour will not change unless you stop her 4m using FB. Coz its addictive. just allow her to use the normal phones for calls and msgng. if ur changing the maid, let this be a guideline while recruiting.
We talked yesterday, I let the OWWA representative talk to her. She said she was sorry and that she will "discipline" her use of facebook and that she doesn't want to go.
My reply was I am not sure I can trust her with the smart phone again. I asked for a week to think about it, and even if will give it back to her it will be only after the kids are asleep and she is free.
I am still skeptical. I will see how things work after that week.
U have warned her... so still if she continues to disobey u , thn its time to rethink.
taking care of children, thts the most prior intention of her duty, a small carelessness may lead to big problems... so better giv a final warning... i think she is in the fantasy world of facebook.. just explain the disadvantages/danger from these sites too.... hope she will undrstand....
GUD LUCK...
i bet they r and even must be expectin go get some gifts or riyals along wit the sausage.
I have re-read all you comments... to summarize it is either:
1) Let her go, cancel... terminate.. send back to agency (Almost 2 thirds)
2)Let her stay with warning and set house rules.. take away the phone (Almost 1 third)
After my call with OWWA they are also inline with option 2..
I will discuss all alternatives again today with my husband and with her and see where does this take us to.
Give her the option of leaving or giving up the smartphone during her working ours. I know it sounds a bit heavy-handed, but what would your boss say if you were spending all day on facebook on company time? Corporations routinely block access to such things during office hours.
Another one lost to facebook... just like some of us on QL ... addicted to it ;)
Thanks everyone...I appreciate if we all keep the comments on topic ..
I am not in favor of generalizations especially in nationalities...I have spoken to OWWA already and they promised good actions... and yes I checked her pictures they are clean ( i had no doubts about that too) ...
Facebook is just a tool...you can use it in all means ...
A mother in America was so busy on her facebook her child drowned. I think you should get rid of the maid she is obviously addicted to the facebook. Unless you completely take her phone away I don't see it working out. She could do so many dumn things if her attention is always on facebook you need to think first of your children. Sorry but it never turns out good when they get like this.
FaceBook should be banned in Qatar - we need Orkut back :P
Good luck Roudy 3011. I have a strong sentiment that it solves your problem...
ahahahah....lollllllllllllllllll
hheee heeee
Dear Facebook,
Just wait & watch, some day they will all leave you too...!!
Yours sincerely,
Orkut.. ;)
Facebook is simply $hit, should not be allowed to use kids and people like this. she is addicted to that. difficult to come out and be the same as before.
check out the pics she uploaded. make sure they are clean.
@facebooker: so trueeeeeee soooo trueeeeeeee
@metaphor: u a definitely a pilipino n m not jls, some pilipina oldies do glance at me daily ,even make a pass on me. They r jus gold diggers.no offence plz.
hmm..Well you can try to consult OWWA people and if it dosnt work try to go for POEA consultant or to Embessy ...So that u can clear ur problems and if thhis house maid refuse tto work then u can go to embessy and tell them the maid is refuse to work with u and the embessy will help u to solve the problem with the agency and can get you all the moneey back u paid ...!!!
hey mr. pride, Filipinas are just adorable individuals and there's nothing you can do about that... you're just jealous coz no one glance on you!
Why is Facebook such a Hit..?
It works on the principle that-
''People are more interested in others life than their own..''
I just called the OWWA asked them for advice, the guy was really helpful. He said he will call her and advice her and said it was a right thing to confiscate her smartphone and that I can allow it only in her free time.
He also said we can warn her of termination and that she will not be allowed to work overseas again.
Get a character background check and review her previous experience on the CV from the Agent. Being mature sometimes is not always about the age. Its the credibility of someones experience and motivation...
Filipina's usually and majority are sincere and hard working, but there just no such thing as 100% effeciency...
Filipinos get younger and immature with age....
Check out she might be going out with your or ur neighbours driver too :P
Khalaas.
FACEBOOK is like alcohol. shes not gonna come out of it.Be careful she might even snap ur childeren n upload on FB.
These philipinos are jus too much....
Hai Raudy,
Well i guess i can help you!!!Well i was working in manpower feild past 3 years ..Well how many months now this house maid with you???
Face book is a jail, cannot come out. Just change her. No option.
If she is not listening, and doing it again and again, better to talk with the Agency....
This is Unacceptable...
mataphor ...thanks for the numbers.. she is actually 37yrs old. I thought that was mature enough! :)
You can visit their office located infront of CHN University Entrance, office number 44868001.
Try to get a little mature babysitter, they work better and more reliable than the youngsters...
Good Luck.
Roudy...you are being subjective...
Roudy...I was being sarcastic. My apologies. Check the link that I've posted now in my earlier post & you'll understand :)
metaphor ... that sounds very rational I googled for this office but I got only the philipino numbers... is there an office for qatar?
You violated "Qatar Living Human Rights Guidelines". Get ready for lectures from the QL Rights Activists. Check the link, if you want to know about them.
Edited: OOooppss...I forgot to paste the link :P
Here it is:
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1691635#new
a lil bit humor doesnt harm any one
so how am I violating them with my post?
beta let her g0 c0z 2day she is jUs using FB 2m0r0w she wil hav friend in ur h0use c0z ur n0t h0me allday!
Try to give her written warning letter and have it authenticated in the Philippine Overseas Welfare Office for acknowledgement.
That way your conscience won't be bothering you on your last resort action of sending her back to the agent, and also you can file legal grievance back to the agency to have her replaced with a trustworthy one without cost...
Khattak gave them to Doha printing press will be ready by next April.
what are Qatar Living Human Rights Guidelines and where can i find them?
personal experience once they start messing up its pointless to have them anymore .... rather go to the agency and get a replacement ... are they held liable? dont waste your time with her..... good luck
If I had ANY doubts about someone who was working in my house or looking after my kids (if I had any...), they wouldn't get a second chance. Straight out of the door. No what-ifs or buts.
if you cannot just let her go because it's hard for you to get another one, make a new house rules... anytime you catch her using her phone while on the work will be a deduction from her salary and from her benefits... she must know her responsibilities and taking it for granted must have an equal penalty... make it in written and let her sign for it... can you PM me the name, probably she's on my friendlist also...
She has got 1300 friends in a week!! Obviously she must be beautiful and sexy. And her public toilet pictures must be something too! Can I be her FB friend too?
I Was not thinking of bringing a new one... I know it is expenseive I already paid 8500 QAR to get her through agency and there are no gurantees that a new one will be good or trustworthy
I am seriously thinking of quiting my job coz I have to work till 5 PM most of the days, and my kids are back from school by 2 PM.
My husband is against taking her phones, he beleives it is her right to have her own communication media as long as she does her work. I was in agreement till this facebook thing started escalating... now my problem is in trust...
It is very sad coz I have been very good to her and she has been good at her work.. and i thought it was a rare thing.. esp. with all the scary stories of maid negligence and bad behaviors...
Implement House rule 101. Mobile with internet capability is not allowed during working hours. Just provide her a mobile phone enough for calling and texting.
She is so lucky to have an employer like you but what she is doing is totally unfair.
I feel so sad for what she is doing although she is my kabayan.
You already gave her a chance but she blew it.Better let her go otherwise you'll have no peace of mind in terms of your child's safety
You already gave her a chance but she blew it.Better let her go otherwise you'll have no peace of mind in terms of your child's safety
Roudy, sending her back is very easy but bringing another one is very difficult as it is very expensive and time consuming. Give it a second thought, take all phones from her. Anyway the contract between you both does not say that the employer (you) should provide individual phone for her, if she wants let her use your land phones as the way I did. When her contract is over just pack her up.
obviously, she does not value her job that much... she has been told already, and she still insist on keeping at it, I see no point in still keeping her.. your kids deserve better...
She still has 2 other mobile phones with two more lines.. but regular not smart phones.
She has one philipino line for smsing her family and one qtel line i got her.
The one I took was a vodafone (she bought herself) she was mainly using for WAP access.
But how I can trust her any longer after lying? I feel it is safer to let her go. what do you think?
Good thing you took her phone off, the maid's phone is one of the factors which destroys the peace in our households. Never give her the phone again and just warn her if this goes beyond the limits you will launch a complaint against her with the Police. This is what I did to my maid and now everything runs smoothly
Roudy, I am a Filipina and if that is really what's happening inside your home, I myself will be the first to tell you to discipline her that if she's still willing to work for you. If she sounds resistant on the restrictions you set for her, then better let her go. She is not worth of the trust and confidence you have for her. Hire another Filipina and hope you'll find a better one.
My advise is to go with what siyan posted and if she is under your sponsorship better send her home.
It is not a big thing to get 400 friends in a week in Facebook if you are spending hours and hours for adding friends.
It is a correct statement, she is just accepting everyone and send requests to everyone... you can check her profile yourself and see..
Besides... why would i make that up?
back to the agency
and if she is under your sponsorship just go take her to the airport and cancel her.
i dont believe your statement, how can she have a friend from 900 to more than 1300 in a week?! That's world of record and your maid is qualified in guiness book!
The best option is to go back to agency and discuss the mater. I'm sure your maid will not stop that ongoing behavior.