Facebook Problem with domestic helper

Roudy 3011
By Roudy 3011

We have a good philipino maid that we got through an agency last year.

We are a small family and with minimal house work, and both of my kids go to school and I work.

Recently, she got a smart phone and has been heavily using Facebook...to the extent that she started to care less about the kids and leave them more than once unattended. She is always taking photos of herself whenever we go out and continuosly online through the operator's free WAP.

I checked her profile and in 1 week her friends grew from 900 to more than 1300 !!

I explained to her last week that she is not supposed to do that while she is attending to the kids, and that she has plenty of time in the morning while they are at school and in the afternoon after they sleep

She said she was sorry and will not do this again. Unfortunately, she never stopped.

Yesterday, I took her phone after she spend more than 25 min in a public bathroom taking photos of her self and facebooking while leaving the kid sitting on the basin bench.

I confronted her that this is not acceptable and she is free to go if she wants, but if she stays she has to follow house rules and facebook will not be allowed.

I am not sure what to do with her, need advice from people who might have had similar experiences.

(BTW she said she wants to stay.. but she is not sure .. she needs to check with her parents who (As she said) might ask her to come back.

By Acadian• 13 May 2011 09:56
Acadian

Your first responsibility is to your children! If she is distracted from her duties looking after them and will not listen, Get rid of her. If you don’t you have only yourself to blame in the event something bad happens! There are many people looking for work. I am sure you can fine someone that will take responsibility for her work.

By the_hippo• 12 May 2011 15:10
the_hippo

You should sack her immediately. Don't pay her even one riyal. She has abused your trust.

By ramzan171• 9 May 2011 13:05
ramzan171

Sir,

I working in qatar now i need to go to exit,If I go exit how many month i can retan form Qatar

By tribon• 29 Mar 2011 10:51
tribon

yeah, u did the right way..restrict facebook..i dont have one

By georgejose• 28 Mar 2011 13:55
Rating: 3/5
georgejose

her behaviour will not change unless you stop her 4m using FB. Coz its addictive. just allow her to use the normal phones for calls and msgng. if ur changing the maid, let this be a guideline while recruiting.

By Roudy 3011• 28 Mar 2011 13:25
Roudy 3011

We talked yesterday, I let the OWWA representative talk to her. She said she was sorry and that she will "discipline" her use of facebook and that she doesn't want to go.

My reply was I am not sure I can trust her with the smart phone again. I asked for a week to think about it, and even if will give it back to her it will be only after the kids are asleep and she is free.

I am still skeptical. I will see how things work after that week.

By gudone• 27 Mar 2011 15:24
gudone

U have warned her... so still if she continues to disobey u , thn its time to rethink.

taking care of children, thts the most prior intention of her duty, a small carelessness may lead to big problems... so better giv a final warning... i think she is in the fantasy world of facebook.. just explain the disadvantages/danger from these sites too.... hope she will undrstand....

GUD LUCK...

By qatar pride• 27 Mar 2011 15:22
qatar pride

i bet they r and even must be expectin go get some gifts or riyals along wit the sausage.

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 15:20
Rating: 3/5
Roudy 3011

I have re-read all you comments... to summarize it is either:

1) Let her go, cancel... terminate.. send back to agency (Almost 2 thirds)

2)Let her stay with warning and set house rules.. take away the phone (Almost 1 third)

After my call with OWWA they are also inline with option 2..

I will discuss all alternatives again today with my husband and with her and see where does this take us to.

By Uranus1• 27 Mar 2011 14:59
Uranus1

Give her the option of leaving or giving up the smartphone during her working ours. I know it sounds a bit heavy-handed, but what would your boss say if you were spending all day on facebook on company time? Corporations routinely block access to such things during office hours.

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 14:56
anonymous

Another one lost to facebook... just like some of us on QL ... addicted to it ;)

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 14:51
Roudy 3011

Thanks everyone...I appreciate if we all keep the comments on topic ..

I am not in favor of generalizations especially in nationalities...I have spoken to OWWA already and they promised good actions... and yes I checked her pictures they are clean ( i had no doubts about that too) ...

Facebook is just a tool...you can use it in all means ...

By Eve• 27 Mar 2011 14:45
Eve

A mother in America was so busy on her facebook her child drowned. I think you should get rid of the maid she is obviously addicted to the facebook. Unless you completely take her phone away I don't see it working out. She could do so many dumn things if her attention is always on facebook you need to think first of your children. Sorry but it never turns out good when they get like this.

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 14:40
anonymous

FaceBook should be banned in Qatar - we need Orkut back :P

By metaphor• 27 Mar 2011 14:34
metaphor

Good luck Roudy 3011. I have a strong sentiment that it solves your problem...

By hammood_qatar2011• 27 Mar 2011 14:34
hammood_qatar2011

ahahahah....lollllllllllllllllll

By qatar pride• 27 Mar 2011 14:33
qatar pride

hheee heeee

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 14:32
anonymous

Dear Facebook,

Just wait & watch, some day they will all leave you too...!!

Yours sincerely,

Orkut.. ;)

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 14:30
anonymous

Facebook is simply $hit, should not be allowed to use kids and people like this. she is addicted to that. difficult to come out and be the same as before.

check out the pics she uploaded. make sure they are clean.

By qatar pride• 27 Mar 2011 14:29
qatar pride

@facebooker: so trueeeeeee soooo trueeeeeeee

@metaphor: u a definitely a pilipino n m not jls, some pilipina oldies do glance at me daily ,even make a pass on me. They r jus gold diggers.no offence plz.

By hammood_qatar2011• 27 Mar 2011 14:26
Rating: 4/5
hammood_qatar2011

hmm..Well you can try to consult OWWA people and if it dosnt work try to go for POEA consultant or to Embessy ...So that u can clear ur problems and if thhis house maid refuse tto work then u can go to embessy and tell them the maid is refuse to work with u and the embessy will help u to solve the problem with the agency and can get you all the moneey back u paid ...!!!

By metaphor• 27 Mar 2011 14:25
metaphor

hey mr. pride, Filipinas are just adorable individuals and there's nothing you can do about that... you're just jealous coz no one glance on you!

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 14:22
anonymous

Why is Facebook such a Hit..?

It works on the principle that-

''People are more interested in others life than their own..''

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 14:21
Roudy 3011

I just called the OWWA asked them for advice, the guy was really helpful. He said he will call her and advice her and said it was a right thing to confiscate her smartphone and that I can allow it only in her free time.

He also said we can warn her of termination and that she will not be allowed to work overseas again.

By metaphor• 27 Mar 2011 14:20
Rating: 4/5
metaphor

Get a character background check and review her previous experience on the CV from the Agent. Being mature sometimes is not always about the age. Its the credibility of someones experience and motivation...

Filipina's usually and majority are sincere and hard working, but there just no such thing as 100% effeciency...

By qatar pride• 27 Mar 2011 14:18
qatar pride

Filipinos get younger and immature with age....

Check out she might be going out with your or ur neighbours driver too :P

By qatar pride• 27 Mar 2011 14:13
qatar pride

Khalaas.

FACEBOOK is like alcohol. shes not gonna come out of it.Be careful she might even snap ur childeren n upload on FB.

These philipinos are jus too much....

By hammood_qatar2011• 27 Mar 2011 14:08
hammood_qatar2011

Hai Raudy,

Well i guess i can help you!!!Well i was working in manpower feild past 3 years ..Well how many months now this house maid with you???

By vs1975• 27 Mar 2011 14:03
vs1975

Face book is a jail, cannot come out. Just change her. No option.

By FlyingAce• 27 Mar 2011 13:58
FlyingAce

If she is not listening, and doing it again and again, better to talk with the Agency....

This is Unacceptable...

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 13:51
Roudy 3011

mataphor ...thanks for the numbers.. she is actually 37yrs old. I thought that was mature enough! :)

By metaphor• 27 Mar 2011 13:49
Rating: 5/5
metaphor

You can visit their office located infront of CHN University Entrance, office number 44868001.

Try to get a little mature babysitter, they work better and more reliable than the youngsters...

Good Luck.

By Bharatdugyuts• 27 Mar 2011 13:37
Bharatdugyuts

Roudy...you are being subjective...

By KHATTAK• 27 Mar 2011 13:36
KHATTAK

Roudy...I was being sarcastic. My apologies. Check the link that I've posted now in my earlier post & you'll understand :)

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 13:36
Roudy 3011

metaphor ... that sounds very rational I googled for this office but I got only the philipino numbers... is there an office for qatar?

By KHATTAK• 27 Mar 2011 13:34
KHATTAK

You violated "Qatar Living Human Rights Guidelines". Get ready for lectures from the QL Rights Activists. Check the link, if you want to know about them.

Edited: OOooppss...I forgot to paste the link :P

Here it is:

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1691635#new

By DaRuDe• 27 Mar 2011 13:33
DaRuDe

a lil bit humor doesnt harm any one

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 13:28
Roudy 3011

so how am I violating them with my post?

By Lili.Rochefort• 27 Mar 2011 13:28
Lili.Rochefort

beta let her g0 c0z 2day she is jUs using FB 2m0r0w she wil hav friend in ur h0use c0z ur n0t h0me allday!

By metaphor• 27 Mar 2011 13:28
metaphor

Try to give her written warning letter and have it authenticated in the Philippine Overseas Welfare Office for acknowledgement.

That way your conscience won't be bothering you on your last resort action of sending her back to the agent, and also you can file legal grievance back to the agency to have her replaced with a trustworthy one without cost...

By DaRuDe• 27 Mar 2011 13:27
DaRuDe

Khattak gave them to Doha printing press will be ready by next April.

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 13:25
Roudy 3011

what are Qatar Living Human Rights Guidelines and where can i find them?

By Cat Buys• 27 Mar 2011 13:25
Cat Buys

personal experience once they start messing up its pointless to have them anymore .... rather go to the agency and get a replacement ... are they held liable? dont waste your time with her..... good luck

By rod.b.d.b.• 27 Mar 2011 13:18
rod.b.d.b.

If I had ANY doubts about someone who was working in my house or looking after my kids (if I had any...), they wouldn't get a second chance. Straight out of the door. No what-ifs or buts.

By glennss• 27 Mar 2011 12:58
glennss

if you cannot just let her go because it's hard for you to get another one, make a new house rules... anytime you catch her using her phone while on the work will be a deduction from her salary and from her benefits... she must know her responsibilities and taking it for granted must have an equal penalty... make it in written and let her sign for it... can you PM me the name, probably she's on my friendlist also...

By edifis• 27 Mar 2011 12:57
edifis

She has got 1300 friends in a week!! Obviously she must be beautiful and sexy. And her public toilet pictures must be something too! Can I be her FB friend too?

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 12:56
Roudy 3011

I Was not thinking of bringing a new one... I know it is expenseive I already paid 8500 QAR to get her through agency and there are no gurantees that a new one will be good or trustworthy

I am seriously thinking of quiting my job coz I have to work till 5 PM most of the days, and my kids are back from school by 2 PM.

My husband is against taking her phones, he beleives it is her right to have her own communication media as long as she does her work. I was in agreement till this facebook thing started escalating... now my problem is in trust...

It is very sad coz I have been very good to her and she has been good at her work.. and i thought it was a rare thing.. esp. with all the scary stories of maid negligence and bad behaviors...

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 12:55
anonymous

Implement House rule 101. Mobile with internet capability is not allowed during working hours. Just provide her a mobile phone enough for calling and texting.

She is so lucky to have an employer like you but what she is doing is totally unfair.

I feel so sad for what she is doing although she is my kabayan.

By blippy• 27 Mar 2011 12:52
blippy

You already gave her a chance but she blew it.Better let her go otherwise you'll have no peace of mind in terms of your child's safety

By blippy• 27 Mar 2011 12:51
blippy

You already gave her a chance but she blew it.Better let her go otherwise you'll have no peace of mind in terms of your child's safety

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 12:48
anonymous

Roudy, sending her back is very easy but bringing another one is very difficult as it is very expensive and time consuming. Give it a second thought, take all phones from her. Anyway the contract between you both does not say that the employer (you) should provide individual phone for her, if she wants let her use your land phones as the way I did. When her contract is over just pack her up.

By mjamille28• 27 Mar 2011 12:39
mjamille28

obviously, she does not value her job that much... she has been told already, and she still insist on keeping at it, I see no point in still keeping her.. your kids deserve better...

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 12:38
Roudy 3011

She still has 2 other mobile phones with two more lines.. but regular not smart phones.

She has one philipino line for smsing her family and one qtel line i got her.

The one I took was a vodafone (she bought herself) she was mainly using for WAP access.

But how I can trust her any longer after lying? I feel it is safer to let her go. what do you think?

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 12:38
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

Good thing you took her phone off, the maid's phone is one of the factors which destroys the peace in our households. Never give her the phone again and just warn her if this goes beyond the limits you will launch a complaint against her with the Police. This is what I did to my maid and now everything runs smoothly

By flat14alsadd• 27 Mar 2011 12:35
Rating: 2/5
flat14alsadd

Roudy, I am a Filipina and if that is really what's happening inside your home, I myself will be the first to tell you to discipline her that if she's still willing to work for you. If she sounds resistant on the restrictions you set for her, then better let her go. She is not worth of the trust and confidence you have for her. Hire another Filipina and hope you'll find a better one.

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 12:33
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

My advise is to go with what siyan posted and if she is under your sponsorship better send her home.

It is not a big thing to get 400 friends in a week in Facebook if you are spending hours and hours for adding friends.

By Roudy 3011• 27 Mar 2011 12:28
Roudy 3011

It is a correct statement, she is just accepting everyone and send requests to everyone... you can check her profile yourself and see..

Besides... why would i make that up?

By DaRuDe• 27 Mar 2011 12:27
Rating: 5/5
DaRuDe

back to the agency

and if she is under your sponsorship just go take her to the airport and cancel her.

By anonymous• 27 Mar 2011 12:23
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

i dont believe your statement, how can she have a friend from 900 to more than 1300 in a week?! That's world of record and your maid is qualified in guiness book!

By siyan• 27 Mar 2011 12:18
Rating: 2/5
siyan

The best option is to go back to agency and discuss the mater. I'm sure your maid will not stop that ongoing behavior.

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