British Electricians On Housing Developments

im looking for job Electrical and Plumbing im working befor doha qatar 2007-2013 in

Im md shariful islam sir you need my cv your email id

I have no interest in a construction company or maintenance. Too much of a pain

Just to clarify, Moza is born in QATAR and a QATARI by nationality. So do not worry about sponsor. He/she can do it. He can even help you in getting an electrician job in his private VILLAS.

Send your CV to him.

Hi Mozaismyhero,

Thank you for your feedback but the first part of your message I do not understand

If I was you this is how I would go about setting up here. (You can pay my fee in mai tais if it works...)

What is this fee, can you explain, please,

Thanks,

Mick

I know, I know, but he's such a sweet old guy and I could never explain to him that his repair people might not be the best. He's very proud of them. And they are so responsive. Part of the problem is the shoddy goods. I had an light bulb shatter and shower hot glass all over people at a party once.

Mandi

How come you love him to death if your life to him is not even worth $60/h?

The problem is that essentially NO expats own their own home. Yes, I would like my wiring to be code but that's up to my landlord. Love him to death, but he's not going to pay $60/hr.

Mandi

If I was you this is how I would go about setting up here. (You can pay my fee in mai tais if it works...)

1. Get a local Qatari partner. (Its the law here)

2. Sell your services as certified to western standard with the work performed by competent and trained people

3. Hire non-westerners with the basic skills and train them yourselves to IEE standard

4. Supervise the work yourself after completion before signing off

I am sure many business are looking for a higher level of quality now in terms of electrical installations that what they gambled on previously.

Hi Mandi

Thank you for your comments, I do appreciate your input.

Regards,

Mick

Well, maybe. But that's commercial and Mick is talking strictly residential.

Mandi

Maybe Mandi after Vilaggio and the other first Qatar may invest in some qualified people to raise the standards here.

There may be positions that match your qualifications but I believe they would pay very little. Jobs here tend to go to the lowest bidder. Electrician is pretty low on the food chain, right next to "driver."

Mandi

Hello Mozaismyhero,

Thank you for your comment.

I assume you were born in Qatar and run you own residential construction business?

I am from England but living in Ireland at the moment. I am looking foe an Electrical Supervisor/Contracts/Projects Manager Position in Qatar.

I ran my own Electrical Contracting Business in London for 10 years.

Employed and Supervised 20 Electricians.

Tendered for Contracts.

Project Managed 5 or 6 Projects at a time.

Managed High Quality, High Specification Electrical Residential Projects.

£1Million Contracts, that included:

1, Intruder and Fire Alarm Systems.

2. Street Lighting.

3. Warden Call Systems

4. Computer Networks.

5. Telecommunication Systems and Information Technology

6. Emergency Lightning

7. Street lightning

8. HVAC

I can not be involve with projects that are not to a high standard or meet the IEE Regulations.

I am looking for a good wage to match my experience,

In your opinion are there positions that match my experience that are well paid or should I as a British National forget about getting work in Qatar.

Some people have said I should start my own business but I have been told I would need a Qatari to own 51% of the business.

Any advice you can give on the above would be very much appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Mick

Qatar works to British standards but most civil construction projects don't seem to take much notice. (Hence a large number of fires here). I build some villas and I promise the tenants maintenance, so I'll send my driver if there is a problem....

In the O&G industry it is different. Safety is paramount and qualified people are employed.

Hi Postmodernman,

Thank you for your reply.

I am just amazed by your reply and fully agree, Electricity is a Killer. Just can't understand how they are getting away with this. You would think the standards would very high in such a rich country.

Here in the UK we would refer to this as being run by CowBoys in other words, people carrying out work there obviously not properly qualified for.

Has no one told the people of Qatar Electricity Kills.

Thanks agin,

Mick

Thanks for you reply

Sounds like what happened to people coming from Eastern Europe and Asia to the UK and Ireland. I knew of people with Degrees and even Dr's in there own country picking strawberries in fields.

Mick

UkEngQatar

Sent you a message

Hi UKEngQatar

Thanks for your reply.

I can not believe what i read in the above replies, the stand of workmanship must be desperate.

Is there no equivalent of the IEE Regulations.

Any British people employed in the construction industry all Qualified Engineers and people from countries like India, Nepal or Sri Lanka employed to do the donkey work for much cheaper wages?

Is the Industrial and Commercial Sector the the same?

Are you an Electrical Engineer by chance?

Kind Regards,

Mick

Hi Moazismyhro,

Thank you for your reply.

Can't believe such a rich country gets away with paying such terrible money for such an important trade.

Is there no Electrical Regulations in Qatar, sounds like these houses and apartments are potential death traps.

Really surprised at your experience and the lack of regulations that seem to be in place.

Its bad enough exploiting people in this way but there is no excuse for proper electrical regulations and standards requiring a qualified Electrician as they do in the West in such a wealthy country.

Looks like I need to look else where, but thank again for your reply.

Mick

Hi

Thanks for your reply, don't understand "What a weird Question" !!!!!

Now I know why there are no jobs advertised for Western Residential Electricians

Mick

Highlander88

Yeah I remember a fellow Professional Structures Engineer in the Uk left his job to become a Joiner/carpenter, as he thought that a trademan would make more bucks than a professional Engineer.

Is the guy a Filipino? If he is one, then no worries... Coz that's how it goes with us. Jack of all trade... as they say.

Though there are specialization in skills, but most Filipino skillsmen had knowhow of various skills. Even white collar executives have acquired blue collar skills... and basic is of being a plumber, electrician and carpenter, and better yet if you still know auto-mechanic. Because in the Philippines, as a man in the Family, you need to consider having basic knowledge of these skills so as to help manage your home smoothly.

That is why, Filipino skilled workers deserve more than the "peanut pay" for their services here in Qatar. Hope employers start to open their eyes on this reality!

don't think of needing to have qualifications to be a tradesperson here. An electrician is not qualified in the sense we would think of in the west.

Put it this way. We had a plumbing problem so we contacted our compound manager to fix it. The guy fixed it and while he was there we asked about an electrical problem. "No sir, an electrician would fix that. I arrange for that." Next day, same guy, different tool bag. One day he's a plumber, next day he's an electrician.

I have to leave the villa when the guys fix stuff - i don't want to watch them fry as they touch live wires.

moza dont worry not everyone are farmers back home, there are people who has degrees too, but yes they are poorly paid.

MoZai.. If yer gonna pay peanuts yer gonna get monkeys..:)

Most of the Electrical technicians here are from India, Nepal or Sri Lanka. Never come across a n European Electrician yet in Qatar.

If you are willing to work for 200 pounds a month and also help out on plumping, carpentry and maybe the occasionaly babysitting them come.

Most people hired as electricians here were farmers back home but they are cheap.

I remember asking one guy why when I turn on the light on the stairs does my water pump go off? He looked at me like I was crazy and said what was the problem....

are the best!!!!!!

What a weird question.

However, on a serious note, I garauntee you won't like to hear how much a domestic electrician might be paid here.