Media Bias against Muslims.
When they were caught and accused, the whole media world had it as BREAKING NEWS, front pages had the news when truth comes out, media does not even want to cover it. This is how the media do a systematic planned damage to spread fear and hatred against Islam and Muslims.
Trio not guilty of helping 7/7 London bombers
Jury clears men of conspiring with four bombers over London 2005 explosions that killed 52
Waheed Ali, Mohammed Shakil and Sadeer Saleem
From left: Waheed Ali, Sadeer Saleem, and Mohammed Shakil. Photograph: Metropolitan police
Three British Muslims were today cleared of helping the 7 July bombers choose their targets by carrying out a reconnaissance mission in London seven months before the attacks that killed 52 people and injured almost 1,000.
A jury at Kingston crown court unanimously found Waheed Ali, 25, Sadeer Saleem, 28, and Mohammed Shakil, 32, all from Beeston, Leeds, not guilty of conspiring with the four bombers to cause explosions, after deliberating for eight days.
They are the only people to be charged over the attacks in 2005, which prompted the biggest criminal investigation in British history – more than 18,450 statements were taken and at least 37,000 exhibits were collected.
Ali and Shakil were, however, convicted of conspiracy to attend a place used for terrorist training. They were about to board a flight to Pakistan when they were arrested in 2007. The pair will be sentenced tomorrow afternoon.
The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, welcomed those guilty verdicts, which she said "clearly demonstrated the determined stance the UK takes against those suspected of involvement in terrorism".
As the verdicts were read out, Ali smiled broadly, Saleem wiped his eyes and Shakil leant forward, mouthing "thank you" to the jury. The trio had been retried after a jury failed to reach a verdict on the charges relating to the 7 July attacks last year after about three weeks of deliberations.
Survivors of the attacks and family members of those who died said today's verdicts strengthened the case for an independent inquiry into the bombings.
The end of the trial clears the way for the publication of a long-awaited report into whether the attacks could have been prevented, which is expected to be critical of the way MI5 and West Yorkshire police responded to earlier intelligence linking some of the suicide bombers with a group who were plotting to explode a series of huge fertiliser bombs.
The two key bombers, Mohammad Siddique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, crossed MI5's radar several times in 2004 as the security service watched the gang that was later convicted of plotting to blow up Bluewater shopping centre in Kent and south London's Ministry of Sound nightclub.
Ali was also present when Khan and Tanweer met the leader of that cell, Omar Khyam, and Shakil and Khan trained with him at a camp in Pakistan in 2003.
But after the fertiliser plotters were arrested in March 2003, Khan and Tanweer, who had been judged to be peripheral figures because they only seemed interested in committing fraud to fund overseas jihad, were not followed again by M15 and were not identified by the service.
Khyam was referred to as "Ausman" during the trial for fear that revealing his true indentity to the jury would prejudice the case.
Graham Foulkes, whose 22-year-old son David worked for the Guardian in Manchester and was killed in the Edgware Road tube explosion, said: "For almost four years, we have been asking for an inquiry into what led up to 7/7.
"We are not looking for people to blame, but we also know that we have not been told the whole truth. We believe that crucial lessons need to be learned. If mistakes have been made, they should be put right, not covered up. This is not a witch-hunt, it is simply about saving lives."
Police have said they know others were involved in the attacks and believe there are still people in Beeston with significant information who have never come forward.
Deputy assistant commissioner John McDowall, the head of the Metropolitan police's counterterrorism command, said he believed others were involved in planning the attacks.
"I would urge anybody who has any information about 7/7 to come forward and contact police," he said. "I do understand that people may have concerns about the impact of giving us information, but it is the right thing to do."
Speaking about Ali and Shakil, he said: "These two men learned to fight at training camps attended by other terrorists. Mohammed Siddique Khan and Mohammed Shakil told other attendees that their aim was to fight in Afghanistan. They were proficient in the use of, and handling of, terrorist weapons and were certainly not enjoying a day out in a beautiful and mountainous area of Pakistan, as was suggested in court.
"Shakil himself accepted that the camp at Malakand was a serious business, whose purpose was to train willing volunteers to fight and kill in Afghanistan on behalf of the Taliban, a cause to which both he and Ali were, and remain, sympathetic.
"Ali and Shakil clearly associated with, and shared the terrorist beliefs of, the London bombers."
Ali, Saleem and Shakil spent two days in London with the bus bomber, Hasib Hussain, in December 2004 and were joined there by another of the attackers, Jermaine Lindsay, who killed 26 people on a Piccadilly line underground train.
The trio had denied the charges and said they were on a sightseeing trip. They went on the London Eye and visited the Natural History Museum and the London Aquarium as they travelled around the capital.
The prosecution alleged they conducted a "hostile reconnaissance" of potential targets, claiming it was "an important first step in what was, by then, a settled plan to cause explosions in the UK".
Interviewed by police shortly after the bombings, Ali, Saleem and Shakil distanced themselves from the bombers but, in the year that followed, DNA and fingerprint evidence linked them to the two bomb factories in the city and made them "persons of interest".
Detectives first realised the trio may have been to London with Hussain and Lindsay while analysing the details of 4,700 phone numbers and 90,000 calls. Cell site analysis, pinpointing the location of a mobile phone when a call is made, revealed that all five men had been in the capital on 16-17 December. The analysis allowed the group's movements across London to be mapped.
But there was no CCTV footage to show what they had been doing and no proof they had even been on the London underground, where three of the four bombs exploded.
The trio argued during the trial that the items carrying their DNA had been taken to the bomb factories by the bombers, not them.
The jury was warned not to think that they must be guilty just because they were friends with the bombers, with whom they attended the same mosques, gyms and community organisations growing up in Beeston.
The Crown Prosecution Service later defended its decision to prosecute the three men and to go for a retrial following the first court case, although it "fully respected" the jury's verdict.
Sue Hemming, the head of the counterterrorism division, said: "Although there was no direct evidence that these men were involved in the terrible events of 7/7, we felt there was sufficient evidence to show they were involved in reconnaissance and planning for an attack of some kind and it was in the public interest that such a serious matter should be put before a court."
Saleem, who was cleared of all charges, called for an inquiry into his prosecution.
In a statement read by Imran Khan, his solicitor, on the steps of Kingston crown court, Saleem said: "I have lost over two years of my life which I will never get back. Even though I have been acquitted, some people will always connect me with these events.
"I want people to know I am totally innocent and I want there to be an inquiry into why I was prosecuted on the flimsiest of evidence. Nobody should be put through what I have gone through."
Source:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/28/july-7-london-bomb-trial
Pikey: Thanks, good night, btw, Ayman is my muslim name meaning the lucky one.
PM: Lol, i was just explaining that you and some other muslims are also moderated, than our "good friend" airsupply showed up again with a new nick :)
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Plato Brother Aye I say Aymen to that and a good night
Lol Pikey. Airsupply is well know to us all, everybody recognizes him, it doesn't matter that he changes his nick.
Pikey, no need to fear Islam, or muslims, as all other religions, Islam is also all about peace and love and our holly book, the Qur'an incentivates us muslims to leurn and not to think that all Allah's knowledge is written in it, His knowledge is infinit, so, he would need more than 1 or 2 books or even a full book store.
Religion is something private, the profet Mohammed (pbuh) said that religion ain't compulsary.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Pikey: The Israelis are also called as the people of the scriptures. When Moses lived, muslims, christans and jews were all the same People.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
I was inspired by this great religion myself.. But with the way people are fighting here I think that I just stick to what I have for the moment.
Plato you should be in CID man you really know how to sniff out an old bee
He means i'm from Portugal
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
and if you dont believe me, ask the "Porchugalian" moron. He has converted to Islam, and he knows better than me, in what the Quran says!
Airsupply is refering to me. He's always getting banned.
king007: No extremists, only muslims and non belivers? Are you considering the people from the scriptures as non belivers? I'm sure that PM and Amoud may read this post soon and they'll tell you exactly the same i am saying.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
"You lie. You meant me and you cannot admit you are wrong"
Have it your way! YOU are the "Porchugalian" moron I was talking about
But your own Quran refers them as the Chosen ones or does it not? The story of Moses and the Israelites that left Egypt for the promised land?
Guys, 8 is our friend airsupply
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
You lie. You meant me and you cannot admit you are wrong.
that is a zionist claim...like the other claim called the "holocaust"
They keep making up these stories to justify invading a country that doesnt belong to them.
History can put you on the right track, if you are interested ...Pikey
you are assuming that I quoted you in my post at 11:49, while it is obvious that I was quoting the other "Porchugalian" moron
8dHdh4EeQd
Did they migrate or did they just return home after centuries of absence from their promised land?
I never agree with any wars, i'm not the only westerner saying that Doobya acted correctly, but I think my kurd brothers would ask you if you agreeded with the slaughter commited by Saddam when he dropped those bombs and killed 1 full town.
Wanna talk about Afghanistan? Wanna justify the spanking the Taliban would give to the Afghani women if they wouldn't use Burka? Or wanna justify the support they were giving to Bin Laden? Wanna justify the Al-Qaeda training camps?
King007: I'm not the only muslim that thinks this way, thanks to some people that can only hate, Islam and the true muslims are seen on a suspicious way, instead of loving all humans, you are unable to understand that we are all different but at same time all humans are brothers and sisters of each others.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
8dHdh4EeQd- what a smart or stupid name. What is the logic are you some kind of product from a Chemical reaction?
There are millions of Mulsims in the Uk and Europe not all of them go around and plan and blow up trains. There will always be some exterimist brain washed kids out there who will end doing exactly what their religion forbids them to do.. which is kill innocent people.
No we are not stupid from Oz. However, you seem to be. Your last post at 11.49 supposedly quoted me. I never said that.
or you are on some expired drugs!
"You talk about Palestina, i also don't like zionists but i don't confuse them with the Israeli people or with jews"
1.it is PALESTINE, not Palestina. Learn some English!
2.The Zionists ARE the jews who migrated to Palestine and ARE living there. Learn some history!
Are all OZ’s as stupid?
”They may be not guilty in this case but I guess they may have been guilty of something”
So let’s put ALL muslims in jails because they will surely be guilty of something bad in the future!!!
The media is a business and sensationalism sells. So, their role is to hype up the stories and sell papers, air time etc.
This happens all over the world.
There are also left leaning and right leaning newspapers. Again portraying news with a certain bias.
we as the public should be able to differentiate between extreme bias and proper news. this is best achieved by reading a wide variety of publications.
there is nothing called as extremist muslim or moderate muslim, either one is muslim or a non-muslim period.
its apologetic people who dont understand or know their own religion who call themselves moderate or moderated muslim(in platao's words).
You people can continue with ur normal crap (poking fun of muslims) and Let the mods watch the show, of islam bashing(poking fun) as always, i am out of it.
KIng James Bond.. What a muslim name,,,hmmmm Plato you moderate Muslim...lol
Guess what his highness King007 is saying is that this site should be allocated to exterimist muslim views who condone sucide bombers and the one that help them or have similar views
king007, again you have your facts wrong.
this site is used to poke fun at close-minded people like yourself.
this thread as other threads of QL will now be used for islam bashing by islam haters of this site and platao (moderated muslim) will join the party but with soft bashing else he will be exposed!!
Hey Flan aint that Haram..Blowing up thing?
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HE WHO DARES WINS
foookin hell pikey, you're back!!!
sorry to hear about your 2hr walk.
@Platao: And how u felt when America bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, gave weapons to Israel to commit mass murder of palestinian women and children?
How u feel when american soldiers rape women in Iraq, afghanistan etc, kill all family members in front of their eyes, occupy their land in palestine, drag them out from their own houses? Thats all ok right but if these same people defend u feel bad, isntt it?
well i know u "claim" to be "muslim" everywhere on QL
Jackfrost they are innocent as much as the bloke that they caught in the Mombay blasts..
The trio argued during the trial that the items carrying their DNA had been taken to the bomb factories by the bombers, not them.
Oh please, get a life king007 and smartbuddy why do you peopl alwasy complain. this not fair that not fair. Dry your bloody eyes and harden up mate.
As popcorngirl said, they will be back in the head lines
Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.
Well I was in a train 10 minutes aways from being blown up that day. The problem was that after the blast all the Transport system just shut down and had to walk for 2 hours to get home..
just sent him a PM saying the same thing.
Flan your one hell of a funny bloke..
Fla: lol
"Amazing campaign of Media, like poster said, systematic and planned. Unfortunately muslims have been far tooo tolerant and tooo very accomodating to everyone and these same people stab at their back."
Sm: Don't you mean that some of us, moderated muslims, have been too tolerant towards those that call themselves muslims and try to replace Allah as the supreme judge and that even commit the heresy of saying that they kill in His name?
You talk about Palestina, i also don't like zionists but i don't confuse them with the Israeli people or with jews. I'm a westerner and i know how i fealt when ever i would read that someone had blowed himself up killing civilians in name of Allah, all those should be happy now burning in Hell and loving Satan.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
King007: I'm a muslim, and i don't think the press is being biased. It's hard for me to understand why most of my muslim brothers on the ME have such a complex of inferiority.
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Elvis has left the room.
yes they find all identities of the terrorists, passports do not burn too, they find it very easily and present it to media to broadcast it to the world, spread the fear of Islam else it will just sweep all other religions with truth.
Amazing campaign of Media, like poster said, systematic and planned. Unfortunately muslims have been far tooo tolerant and tooo very accomodating to everyone and these same people stab at their back. we have many islam haters posting on this site too. Its a sorry state of Palestine, the only mistake they did was to show humanity to jews and the same people are now killing them and expanding, world sees the killings, but turns a blind eye on it, after all muslims are being killed.
If you kill my dog, I will go all out for your head. problem is, Why kill? The media is not a child and they have every right to report what is on the ground as they see it. For me, I'm only one person but out there are the millions who coudn't be wrong.
the bombs had not gone off. They had made them to use them somewhere.
lol they find passports of terrorists which reveal their identity, name, nationality, religion, age, address etc etc after WTC burns and collapses, they find dna after bombs explode.
amazing, all passports should be made with that material which did not burn or tore, although such strong bldg came down like pack of cards, come what may, amazing bomb which does all damage but leaves the dna marks on it. haha, scientific evidence, u must be kidding.
their DNA was found on bombs, they had been to training camps; not fat camps BUT training camps to kill. I am sorry they are Muslim and I am certainly not saying that all Muslims are like these people. Evidence linked them to something, they were arrested, the UK Police had good SCIENTIFIC evidence to link them to bomb making and going to a terroist training camp. They had every right to suspect them. No smoke without fire mate.
It does NOT matter what YOUR stance is or was. They tried hard to link them somehow but couldn't.
It is covered in the news but not as BREAKING NEWS like it was when they were accused and even pronounced guilty by the Media.
The whole world has their right to kill muslims everywhere, commit open genocide of innocent women and children be it Palestine, Gujarat, Iraq, chechnya or other place.
AND MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES, since even if they defend they would be called Terrorists for defending themselves.
they're guilty of being idiots, people don't get arrested for loitering these days.
king007, i think you're the only one who gives a flying fcuk what religion they are.
it did make the news, you posted from a news agency. Google it and you will see it made first page news in quite a few newspapers and was 'breaking news' on SKY and BBC world. You do also have to look at the overwhelming fact that they did go to training camps and DNA and fingerprints were found on bombs. My stance on this matter does not change.
^Right, they are Muslims so how can they be NOT guilty? No smoke without fire... Fire is created by the media by giving their judgements (when muslims are involved) even before the trial begins.
The whole world has their right to kill muslims everywhere, commit open genocide of innocent women and children be it Palestine, Gujarat, Iraq, chechnya or other place.
Like I said when muslims are accused its BREAKING NEWS but when the fake case against them fails, its not even covered.
The spread of TRUTH of Islam cannot be stopped so Islamophobes resort to spreading LIES against it through the media.
without fire. They may be not guilty in this case but I guess they may have been guilty of something. I am sure we will find their names again in the press soon.