Radical Islam: Terror is its tool

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Time has come for the unspoken to be spoken. Radical Islam is at war with India.

The objectives of the war are to destroy India as a nation, as a people, as a culture and as a multifaced society and replace it with a phenomenon which, starting as an enclave in Saudi Arabia in the 7th century has already enveloped a good part of the globe.

Its spread so far is a proof of its inherent strength. In its historical march to its present expanse, it has destroyed empires, countries, religions, culture and people. It is continuing to make inroads into territories where it was unknown till a little while ago. Those who fail to comprehend its dynamics do so at their own peril.

Radical Islam is what Prophet Mohammed is believed to have given to the citizens of Medina after his flight from Mecca. He outlined an ideology, couched in religious terms, from which an escape was next to impossible. The ideology offered no accommodation except on its terms, ruled out all compromises, and demanded an allegiance any violation of which was declared blasphemous, inviting instantaneous annihilation.

As radical Islam spread far and wide beyond Mecca and Medina, often in the shadow of the sword, it did encounter powerful ideas which sometimes mellowed it and sometimes led to the emergence of new sprouts. Sufi Islam was one such product which toned down the hard features of the original and introduced new concepts. Sufi Islam conditioned the Islamic mindset to acceptance of co-existence with other cultures and religions. Although principally it was radical Islam which made its first forays into India in the middle and early mid centuries, the one that settled down was not so radical. Its core got impacted by Hindu philosophy, bhakti movements and new strains within it such as Deen-e-Ilahi of Akbar. The result was a broad based coexistence of Islam with all religions of India.

The purists were not amused by what they saw as contamination of Islam. Their brigade was led by the contemporary Ulemas. The one who struck an abiding blow for radical Islam was Shah Waliullah (1703-62), celebrated in history as a Muslim reformer or a hardliner. Waliullah held that the essence of the scriptures i.e. Koran, Sunnah and Hadith could not be diluted and the purpose of Islam must remain synchronous with the Prophet’s vision. Two generations later, Waliullah’s followers founded the Deoband seminary of theology. The seminary was not just a Madrassah for religious teachings. Its instructions were inspired by a larger purpose of avenging the1857 defeat by the British of the Muslim empire. The seminary was the first Mujahid enterprise in the country. Its themes remained the same throughout later history, camouflaged cleverly through theological dissertations, disseminated through a network of Madrassahs which quickly sprang into existence, primarily in Muslim heartlands of India. Unrestrained and uninterrupted supply of Wahabi funds from foreign sources has provided oxygen to their activities and to their take on Islam.

Over time this school and its indoctrinations have had a legendary influence over the Muslim world. The Taliban of Afghanistan is the product of Deoband thinking as it evolved in Pakistan after partition. The Wahabis and the Salaifis of Saudi Arabia can be counted as clones of the Talibanised mindset.

Osama bin Laden gave radical Islam another push by crafting the International Islamic Front in 1998. SIMI and IM are the present day practitioners of Waliullah’s mantra.

Al Qaeda and five extremist organizations from Pakistan like Lashkar-e-Taiba, Harkat-ul-Mujahiddeen and Hizbul-e-Jihad-e-Islami, among others from other Islamic countries, became the founding members of the Front, with Christian and Jews as its targets. Its ideology spawned a Pan Islamic thrust. It emphasized that a Muslim’s first loyalty was to his creed, not his nation; any means of violence could be employed including weapons of mass destruction to achieve political and other aims; and belonging to one Ummah a Muslim could participate in any struggle worldwide where Islam or its believers were being victimized. With this ideology, drawn from scriptures, a Muslim was freed from the need of having any further organizational guidance from the Front. The result was that many Muslim groups in many parts of the world, started thinking and acting on identical lines. There was an upsurge in fundamentalism world wide and of terror. Later the list of enemies was expanded to include Hindus i.e. India.

The Pakistani members of the Front, guided by ISI of Pakistan, had narrower aims, India, though they were also used by ISI to support Pan Islamist ambitions of Pakistan. Their imprints were found in all major sectors of Islamic upheaval such as Bosnia, Chechnya, Xingjian, Philippines etc.

Today, the heightened profile of radical Islam the world over is giving sleepless nights to many Governments including some in the Islamic world. Many of these Govts believe that the Islamists will sooner or later be able to lay their hands on a nuclear device, causing mass destruction or disorder somewhere.

Rise of radical Islam has placed a Muslim in a western country in a deep predicament. While he cannot give up his Islamic identity, he does not quite understand how to manage his other multiple identities created by his citizenship, education and existence in multi culturist societies. Secularism and alternate systems of governance are theologically unacceptable in the Muslim scriptures. A reformist Muslim thus, becomes an anathema to Islam. Without reforms, the hard dogmas will continue to rule the Muslim mind and feed the hatred and animosity on which radical Islam thrives. This amounts to a no win situation: there will always remain a class of people, having no respect for the laws and others.

This has caused some to leave the pale of Islam and come out publicly against the contradictions of Islam and its outright rejection of values which are now universal in vast parts of the world. Two such individuals Dr. Wafa Sultana of LA, USA, and Ms.. Irshad Manjhi of Canada have almost become either hate figures or examples of revolutionary bold articulation. They are deeply reviled in Muslim circles. Prof. Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss Muslim who teaches religion at Oxford, constitutes a different category, one while retaining the Muslim identity is struggling for a balance between this identity and of the integrated society in which he and many like him live. Such people are looking for peace within but are continually tormented by the world they have been eager to leave. Their efforts to fashion new avenues of discourses appear quite unwelcome to the people whom they want to address.

This is a problem with which India is not unfamiliar. Scriptures lay down that Islam and the Prophet are not open to discussion. Prophet also remains the most admired individual for a large number of his followers. For such people no debate can ever open up whether Islam should become more inclusive. Essentially, this leads to an uneasy co-existence though at the surface a certain smoothness may prevail, based on a superficial give and take.

As radical Islam races ahead aided by incentives from across the border and fueled by like minded activities elsewhere, the Indian state seems to be at a loss to decide how to deal with it. Contrary voices are rising from within the Government. Division of powers between the Centre and the States are adding to the difficulties, preventing firm policy and action. But time and tide wait for no one. There is a perception in some quarters that the nation is sliding towards anarchy. On good authority it can be said that one responsible Muslim voice within the portals of governance, holds the view that India is on its way to a civil war which will be fought on every street and in every village and town.

We are living in complex times. Rising awareness, expectations and education are making the complexities even more confounded. Solutions cannot be found by shoving the problems under the carpet. These problems need to be identified upfront and dealt with squarely but with prudence, compassion and understanding.

Further polarizations must be prevented as levels touch the danger mark. It is unusual to see a Vice Chancellor jump to promise legal aid to two of his students, charged with not a campus or institution related crime but with terror causing deaths. How many times has the VC come forwards in the past when his students have got to the wrong side of law? And he is not alone in disbelieving the facts of the terror incident of September 13th at New Delhi. Large segments of population living in the area and some leaders of the community have expressed distrust of the police motivation and investigation. A more stringent anti-terror law or creation of federal investigation agency is not an adequate antidote to the growing deeper depths of mistrust and despair. Terrorism must be combated at the ideological level. The battle has to be against hatred and the sustaining belief system. The real enemy exists not in the physical but in the metaphysical realm of dogmas that in turn are subject to mis-interpretations.

Radical Islam and terror will continue to feed each other unless the leaders of the society get down to the business of unraveling what conditions a rational and educated mind to become irrational. There is no moment to be lost to abort the advent of the suicide bomber or the truck bomb.

By A. K. Verma - http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers29/paper2862.html

By Leatherface• 12 Mar 2009 08:17
Leatherface

Alexa...may i ask what religion do you follow or believe in God?

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By Platao36• 11 Mar 2009 23:27
Platao36

LF: Exactly, and those are the kind of ppl that aren't needed in any religion except satanism

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 23:10
Leatherface

Plato36 you right....the fighting and killing of people around the world wihout any code of conduct are merely the achievements of Satan and the muslims who take part in it are termed as "hypocrites" in the Qur'an.

It were the hypocrites who massacred the family of the last prophet and laid down the foundation of the splitting of muslims into Sunni and Shiite!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 23:01
stealth

one more point skd and I will stop.

Whenever a community feels discriminated against, at a certain point of time they will agitate. If no soltion is found it becomes a hydra-headed monster. For that to happen, only religion may not be the cause. Even regionalism will also lead to this.

The kind of discrimination that Muslims face in India is not so easily seen. It gets masked by the success of a few muslims here and there.

Let it be Gujarat or Kerala, Chennai or Mumbai when discrimination reaches its zenith the problems will start in may ways with a few hot heads taking extreme actions.

Take the naxalites, take the regional issues in UP and the north-eastern states, take the border disputes between Karnataka and Maharashtra, water issues between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, dam and rail issues between Tamil Nadu and Kerala. Theses are going to be the biggest problem that can lead India to split up.

Unless the people dont get carried away by the actions of politicians for their votes and the words of a few journalists in the mainstream media who do it for their fame, Indians might as well regret running after shadows which never existed before and has risen because of that.

The problems in Punjab in the 80's are a gross reminder for every Indian as to what can happen if a community gets alientaed.

By Platao36• 11 Mar 2009 22:52
Rating: 3/5
Platao36

LF: Our religion is about peace and love but it causes some people to fear it because some extremists that say they are fighting in name of Allah, are in trueth fighting in name of Satan, as true muslims we shouldn't allow such people to talk in name of Islam and keep commiting so many crimes against it

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 22:34
Leatherface

Don't be Alexa...my religion indeed is of peace. Therez nothing to be scared of.

Its just that a very different impression has been made out of it ever since the religion started growing. Today it carries a completely differetn notion than what it actually is supposed to carry!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 22:26
anonymous

Islam originated from the same place as Christianity. :D

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 22:14
Leatherface

I forgot to mention that it actually is a religion of peace and thats what the original message is all about!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 22:11
anonymous

they woudnt even question who is irshad Manji. I have been laffin since I read this article

Writer is quoting Irshad Manji who is lesbo

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 22:06
Rating: 2/5
Leatherface

Believe me guys, im getting stronger and more convinced with what Islam says about why its not within human ability to make a non-believer believe the true message.

Being part of a few religion based threads running around here at the moment, i now truly understand why does Islam say...."Guidance is in God's hands. No man shall go astray whom God shall guide and no man shall be guided whom God allowed to go astray."

It is practically impossible for atheists to follow spiritual stuff. Religion and the origin of mankind, its termination, paradise and other aspects of it can only be understood by deeply spiritual individuals.

Arguing on this subject would actually be head bashing on the wall. But im doing just that im supposed to do. I am supposed not just to follow this message, but to spread this as much as i can, preserving the original message. This is my only responsibility here.

Islam using violence and terror as its tool may be right cause the idea is to spread the message and get as many men to the righteous path. If it means fighting a rebellious country, territory, group or religion causing bloodshed and hatred, so be it.

If a country attacks a muslim state or territory or causes harm to it, then it has clear commands to fight back. Turning away from enemy is an option only under a few circumstances. The hadith mentions that every righteous muslim is equivalent to 5 non-believing fighters in a battle!

The Qur'an has very clear codes of conduct in a battle situation.

But i must explicitly mention that slamming a jetliner into a building and taking the lives of unarmed, innocent people is definitely not the way of fighting any battle. Muslims can only fight armed men in a battle. No unarmed men, women and children can be victimised.

The USA had no business meddling with Middle East politics and going into Iraq and starting a war thus infuriating the muslim hardliners around the world. The muslims retaliated by attacking the twin towers, bringing down its economic symbol. Coincidentally, the US economy is now down to its knees literally.

The world was reasonably calm, quiet and peaceful pre 9/11. War in Afghanistan was unnecessary but to make 9/11 happen, "evil" instigated USA to go warring into Afghanistan.

Bush declared his "war on terror" on the jihadists not realizing it would only endanger the entire world of its repercussions. Ever since, US, UK, Pakistan, Australia have supported this war on terror either by sending troops or by allowing the US troops to allow attacks from their soil, this war on terror has been going out of control by both ends. The Iraq war was nothing but an instigation by "evil" to cause bloodshed and mayhem.

Hence to comman man, it appears that Islam itself is spreading terror and violence. I don't deny it resorts to violence more often than not but only for the sake of the truth and its prevalence!

Now as long as USA doesn't start a dialogue with Taliban, Al Qaida and LeT and withdraw from Afghanistan , Pakistan and Iraq, this killing and mayhem won't stop. USA will never negotiate with these organisations termed as terrorists. It kills hundreds of fighters every month in Afghanistan and Iraqi soil, and thousands more fighters emerge out.

This war on terror is going nowhere. Mankind is intelligent but it's not intelligent enough to act againt the likes of "evil" and the intentions of God.

HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT MUSLIMS BELIEVE WILL LEAD TO THE EVENT OF JUDGEMENT DAY?

I TELL YOU.....LISTEN CAREFULLY....

"THE DAY THERE IS NO SINGLE MAN ON EARTH WHO IS A MUSLIM AND ISLAM TOTALLY VANISHES FROM THE FACE OF THE PLANET, JUDGEMENT DAY WILL BE EXECUTED"

Now if you can manage killing every single muslim on earth and Islam is totally wiped off somehow, it'd be time to wrap up things!

But before any of these happens, THE SUN MUST RISE FROM THE EAST AND SET IN THE EAST ITSELF. This is an indication that Doomsday is very near!

Believe me, Islam will be wiped off one day. It's only a matter of time!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 21:55
anonymous

why dont you write to Mr. Verma instead, his email id

is mentioned na?

By metrocity• 11 Mar 2009 20:50
metrocity

skdkah drink water instead of Cow urine, you will be okey......

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 20:44
anonymous

Where did it originate?....out of interest and not being faceitous.....for once!

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 20:42
anonymous

articles. this writer is just crazy I pointed out plenty of faults in his writing and SDK never responded.

Now in the above topic AK verma thinks wahabis(Saudis) are clones of Taliban.

to make it very simple did Islam orginate from India, Pakistan or Afghanistan?

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 20:32
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

well Guys, its depends which side of the coin metrocity spins for....he may be laughing at you!.....

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 20:30
Leatherface

I do appreciate humor a lot and I must say i wasn't able to help myself from laughing on what Metrocity said...lol!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By metrocity• 11 Mar 2009 19:50
metrocity

Its increasing nos of Idiotts in QL, pest control pls...........

By Leatherface• 11 Mar 2009 19:15
Rating: 2/5
Leatherface

Call whatever names you want to Islamic fundamentalism. But it's here to exist to fight the bad. All that causes Islam not to flourish and creates an environment not conducive for worshipping God freely becomes "evil" for Islam. The Qur'an then commands its followers to fight through righful means against that "evil". This fight could be as soft as peaceful negotiations or could be as bloody and an apocalypse.

It's perhaps is the only book that commands an eye for an eye and orders its followers to retaliate violently if Islam and its followers are attacked.

However the only way to realize this truth is to be just minutes away from death when the power to speak is taken away. You can see the death angel but can't say anything....not even your confession to the faith!

God bless all!

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:36
skdkak closed 1708224867

whatever

By britexpat• 11 Mar 2009 18:35
britexpat

I personaly do not believe that "radical" Islam is at war with India. Perhaps the Indian Muslims are unhappy with their lot. would say that India probably has more to worry about from "radical" hinduism.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:32
skdkak closed 1708224867

As suggested by my fella QLer SPEED and I agreeing to it. There will be no postings i.e. no response to your post from my side.

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 18:29
Rating: 4/5
stealth

More than raidcal Islam, it is Radical Hinduism that is becoming a threat to the fabric of India. When you have ministers themselves being chargesheeted for slaughtering of innocent civilians during riots speak volumes of the threat faced by secular India.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:28
skdkak closed 1708224867

Plz contact Qatari to delete Religious / cultural forum head in QL.. in the case of your suggession.

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 18:27
stealth

skd it is a lot of hypothesis and little that is true. nowadays many authors what they do is cut and paste and add a few words of their own to show it to be something authentc. It is when people give credence to such illogical things that result in a lot of problems.

I suppose you know what Goebbels theory is all about.

By rebel• 11 Mar 2009 18:24
Rating: 4/5
rebel

yes speed i agree with u ...we should atleast keep "religious" , "sexual" & "political" topics out of QL and they should not be discussed here as we endup with no answer and solution but just with some harsh comments and bad words...

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:22
skdkak closed 1708224867

No more religious postings.

I should respect your suggession.

By SPEED• 11 Mar 2009 18:16
SPEED

i am not stopping you to post anything here and who am i ;-)

Only concern about the environment we are creating here .... I just suggested to keep this religion and politics away everyday we meet under one umbrella (QL) we are one family here..

I do agree with you that you posted something which press is writing in the name of FREEDOM ...

Lets do something to help our people who are waiting for us on the streets/ in jails/ in hospitals...

Why not post something for the betterment for the community :-)

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 18:03
skdkak closed 1708224867

there is no mission.

People are only locating negatives in the posts (this and the other one).

Read deeply, both of them show more of positive information than otherwise. The one with an open mind will see that nothing is negative in any of them. However, one has to understand the weekness / negatives to confront them and improve.

How can only few here see the actual meaning of the post and not all. I wonder.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 17:56
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

Over time this school and its indoctrinations have had a legendary influence over the Muslim world. The Taliban of Afghanistan is the product of Deoband thinking as it evolved in Pakistan after partition.

The Wahabis and the Salaifis of Saudi Arabia can be counted as clones of the Talibanised mindset.

Lol so Wahabis and salafis are following Taliban

in other words Taliban is teaching Saudi Islam wow this is really amazing

By SPEED• 11 Mar 2009 17:49
SPEED

I request to all of you to spread LOVE and PEACE instead of HATE n WAR ... we already have enough in our places at least keep QL clean so that we all can breath here peacefully !!

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 17:10
anonymous

he writing contains loads of hearsay

By SPEED• 11 Mar 2009 17:06
SPEED

By Platao36• 11 Mar 2009 17:05
Rating: 5/5
Platao36

skdkak: Another interesting post :)

"A reformist Muslim thus, becomes an anathema to Islam. Without reforms, the hard dogmas will continue to rule the Muslim mind and feed the hatred and animosity on which radical Islam thrives. This amounts to a no win situation: there will always remain a class of people, having no respect for the laws and others.

This has caused some to leave the pale of Islam and come out publicly against the contradictions of Islam and its outright rejection of values which are now universal in vast parts of the world."

Agreeded, being reformist doesn't mean that you'll corrupt Islam. Even the Qur'an encourages us to create a new law if it isn't present in the Book.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By midaz• 11 Mar 2009 16:51
Rating: 3/5
midaz

The usual propaganda war is on...Mr. author instead of posting these crap msgs, try to do something constructive...which may help u and the society...Most of the things mentioned in the article r baseless. Muslims ruled India for centuries...if islam was forced upon them as a religion, why aren't the majority of Indians, muslims??

By stealth• 11 Mar 2009 16:35
stealth

it is a load of BS> Anyway Muslims have been well prepared for the propaganda that is about to start with regards to India. A bunch of right wing writers have nothing else to do ather than scare mongering.

By tubelight• 11 Mar 2009 14:42
tubelight

'Radical Islam is what Prophet Mohammed is believed to have given to the citizens of Medina after his flight from Mecca. '

RADICAL opinion of Mr. author. Some people just need to get out more.

By skdkak closed 1708224867• 11 Mar 2009 14:28
skdkak closed 1708224867

I banned QL myself for 13 months :)

We at QL always say to share diff view points. What is wrong in the discussion.

By anonymous• 11 Mar 2009 14:23
anonymous

...hahaahah...just watch out buddy...lol :))

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

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