Self proclaimed Islamic militants

consciouseffort
By consciouseffort

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOdhZreO88

I felt very bad when I saw this. I am not sure if this has been discussed in QL before or not but thought of sharing with all. What I hate most is this girl is being beaten in front of the whole crowd only because she was out in the streets with her father in law rather than husband which is allowed by Islam but this stupid people are making fun of Islamic values by doing these kind of things. On one hand they are punishing her for being with her father in law who is her mahram where as these 4 people who are complete strangers to her turn her upside down , hold her so that she doesnt move & start beating her. Poor girl is continously screaming & crying but stupid crowd is all watching her getting punished for nothing.

By Roadtester• 8 Apr 2009 12:43
Rating: 3/5
Roadtester

Well obviously she is going to deny it, or she will doshonour her family. Also because she is woman noone will be able to check if she has any scars.

Great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ. (English Proverb)

By consciouseffort• 8 Apr 2009 12:26
consciouseffort

For those who do not understand what people in crowd are saying is:

* At one point someone said place her burka properly its pulling up.

* At another point, one of them asks another guy to come & hold her hand properly as the previous one cannot do it properly.

* The girl during the scream is shouting in pain & saying May God punish you for all this you are doing to me.

It might not be a new video, maybe this is something old that has shown up now but from which angle can you see this is fake. I can clearly hear ppl saying that all bullshit, I can clearly see a woman being punished, at one point she rubs that area where they are beating her, so why do ppl over here think it is fake.

Plus one more thing, these ppl do not look like Paki pathans but they resemble Afghanis more.

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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!

By Platao36• 8 Apr 2009 12:19
Rating: 2/5
Platao36

""It is simply unacceptable," said Ban Ki-moon during a press conference in response to a question. "The respect and protection of fundamental human rights are fundamental values," he added.

The Pakistani government ordered an investigation after the release of a video showing a young woman on the floor, to be lashing by men in the valley of Swat, Friday , a region northeast of the country where the Taliban imposed their law.

Monday, the chairman of the Pakistani Supreme Court, Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, called for a detailed report within 15 days of this incident that shocked most of the population.

The video, which appears to have been filmed by a mobile phone, shows two men detained by the feet and hands, the woman in burka, while another man with beard, with a turban on his head it inflicts 34 lashes, that made her start screaming in pain ."

Source: http://sic.aeiou.pt/online/noticias/mundo/20090408+Chicotadas+em+publico+a+mulher+no+Paquistao+sao+inaceitaveis.htm

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By Platao36• 8 Apr 2009 12:05
Rating: 4/5
Platao36

Azam: As a new muslim, i think you are seing the things completelly wrong, because it's the natural born muslims that think those kind of behaviors are natural while new converts that are "raised in a civilised society where such events are null" criticise such events.

Unfortunatelly, according to the press, UN has already it's sadness by the whipping of the woman. I'll try to leave the link here regarding that event

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

By Arien• 8 Apr 2009 09:50
Arien

Mad Mad World :(

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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.

By king007• 8 Apr 2009 08:00
king007

you are in a denial stage:

http://paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=213299

Taliban themselves denied it and you need to read the comments and proofs posted why this video cannot be of Sharia Govt ruling in Swat (Pakistan).

Nobody denies that this is inhuman and moreover UnIslamic act.

By compmad• 8 Apr 2009 01:31
compmad

My god, people defend here such cruel acts and fundamentalists. How long you people in an utter denial mode? The incident was a real one, even Taliban accepted it. But here you people condone the act by saying it as fake.

"In two separate media interviews, Muslim Khan, the spokesman for the Taliban in Swat, admitted that the man whipping the girl was a member of the Taliban."

By anonymous• 7 Apr 2009 23:15
anonymous

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/International/Story?id=7246780&page=1

By AbuSaif• 7 Apr 2009 14:55
AbuSaif

Thank you for the spirit of learning, but the answer to your question on Mahram and prophet Muhammad (p&buh) is different than understood, can i IM you on this....the reason NOT to deviate the forum in discussion here.

In response to the forum: Two things are mixed together as per the daily changing stories around the video...however and whatever, the displayed stuff is fake and nonsense and does not follow any islamic legislation... so the doers are sinners to best of my knowledge based on the information i have from press,youtube and blogs etc.

May Allah give us chance to sincerely repent from our wrong doings/sins intentionally and un intentionally and also give us chance to leave this earth on Haq/truth and May Allah be Merciful to us on the day of judgement....Aameeen

By Roadtester• 7 Apr 2009 14:38
Roadtester

People do bad things in the name of christianity as do muslims in the name of Islam. I dont know why people seem to be so kneejerk - that if they dont believe it then must be fake.

By consciouseffort• 7 Apr 2009 14:30
consciouseffort

If this video is fake then what is it that we are seeing. I might not be a videography expert but incident like this clearly shows a lady beaten by hard core animals.

By Roadtester• 7 Apr 2009 13:59
Roadtester

Why would they fake a video - and why would muslims knowingly take part in a fake video to malign islam.

By frozen tear of love• 7 Apr 2009 13:20
frozen tear of love

PM just for correction there are a dozen stories floating through different channels in Pak so no body knows what happened when it happend. Its much of a media hype.

The said lady along with her husband appeared in court and confirmed that this is a fake video.

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When the eye becomes the heart, the heart becomes the eye ... Wasif Ali Wasif

By king007• 7 Apr 2009 13:17
Rating: 4/5
king007

well PM study Islam first then talk.

This is another proof that this video attributed to Taliban is fake...Qur'an says :

An-Noor [24:31] And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! Turn ye all together towards Allah that ye may attain Bliss.

So according to Qur'an Husbands father is her Mahram so even this proves that this fake video is falsely attributed to Sharia Rule.

By frozen tear of love• 7 Apr 2009 13:16
frozen tear of love

On the eve of 15th March the PTV was telling its all right nothing much happening neither we arrested anyone there were some cultural programmed shown at that time, i wonder you were believing it?

After seeing this video on tv for constant two days and seeing that so called activitist I thought lashing a women is a crime but if you kill the same women with a drone attack along with other peoples its all right.

I was disgusted to seek people like iltaf hussain talking about the matter

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When the eye becomes the heart, the heart becomes the eye ... Wasif Ali Wasif

By anonymous• 7 Apr 2009 13:09
anonymous

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

By king007• 7 Apr 2009 12:58
king007

Quote: Mian Iftikhar said the judge, Mohammad Riaz, also recorded the statement of Adalat Khan and he also denied the reports that he or his wife, Chand Bibi, had been lashed by the Taliban. “Adalat Khan wondered as to why nobody in their village knew about this incident. He insisted that no such incident had taken place in Kala Killay,” the minister said.

Iftikhar lamented that a fake video had been used to tarnish the reputation of the people of Swat and disrupt the peace process in the district. “We condemn the acts of repression against women. We too are outraged when extremist elements commit atrocities against women and also men. But the incident depicted in the videotape never took place in Swat,” he argued.

http://paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=213299

Half knowledge is dangerous, Media is used as a Nuclear weapon to malign Islam, spread fear and Hatred towards the Sharia Law.

By consciouseffort• 7 Apr 2009 12:48
Rating: 4/5
consciouseffort

If it is a fake video how come this is on PTV channels all over showing again n again. There cannot be a smoke without fire. There was another video where two ppl were beating women under Afghani burka only because they were outside or something similar to this.

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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!

By anonymous• 7 Apr 2009 11:09
anonymous

Its a FAKE video

By king007• 7 Apr 2009 11:07
Rating: 2/5
king007

its a FAKE video made to spread fear and hatred against the Shariah law. its been condemned by all muslims and also Taliban themselves have said this is a fake video.

everything what is shown on TV may not be true.

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