The Story of Hindu Women
I came from a purely Hindu family where we were always taught to regard ourselves (i.e. women) as beings who were eventually to be married off and have children and serve the husband -whether he was kind or not. Other than this I found that there were a lot of things which really oppressed women, such as:
If a woman was widowed, she would always have to wear a white sari (costume), eat vegetarian meals, cut her hair short, and never re-marry. The bride always had to pay the dowry (bridal money) to the husband's family. And the husband could ask for anything, irrespective of whether the bride would have difficulty giving it.
Not only that, if after marriage she was not able to pay the full dowry she would be both emotionally and physically tortured, and could end up being a victim of "kitchen death" where the husband, or both the mother-in-law and the husband try to set fire to the wife while she is cooking or is in the kitchen, and try to make it look like an accidental death. More and more of these instances are taking place. The daughter of a friend of my own father's had the same fate last year!
In addition to all this, men in Hinduism are treated literally as among the gods. In one of the religious Hindu celebrations, unmarried girls pray for and worship an idol representing a particular god (Shira) so that they may have husbands like him. Even my own mother had asked me to do this. This made me see that the Hindu religion which is based on superstitions and things that have no manifest proof, but were merely traditions which oppressed women could not be right.
Subsequently, when I came to England to study, I thought that at least this is a country which gives equal rights to men and women, and does not oppress them. We all have the freedom to do as we like, I thought. Well, as I started to meet people and make new friends, learn about this new society, and go to all the places my friends went to in order to "socialise" (bars, dance halls, etc.). I realised that this "equality" was not so true in practice as it was in theory.
Outwardly, women were seen to be given equal rights in education, work, and so forth, but in reality women were still oppressed in a different, more subtle way. When I went with my friends to those places they hung out at, I found everybody interested to talk to me and I thought that was normal. But it was only later that I realised how naive I was, and recognised what these people were really looking for. I soon began to feel uncomfortable, as if I was not myself: I had to dress in a certain way so that people would like me, and had to talk in a certain way to please them. I soon found that I was feeling more and more uncomfortable, less and less myself, yet I could not get out. Everybody was saying they were enjoying themselves, but I don't call this enjoying.
I think women in this way of life are oppressed; they have to dress in a certain way in order to please and appear more appealing, and also talk in a certain way so people like them. During this time I had not thought about Islam, even though I had some Muslim acquaintances. But I felt I really had to do something, to find something that I would be happy and secure with, and would feel respected with. Something to believe in that is the right belief, because everybody has a belief that they live according to.
If having fun by getting off with other people is someone's belief, they do this. If making money is someone's belief, they do everything to achieve this. If they believe drinking is one way to enjoy life then they do it. But I feel all this leads to nowhere; no one is truly satisfied, and the respect women are looking for is diminishing in this way.
In these days of so called "society of equal rights", you are expected to have a boyfriend (or you're weird!) and to not be a virgin. So this is a form of oppression even though some women do not realise it. When I came to Islam, it was obvious that I had finally found permanent security. A religion, a belief that was so complete and clear in every aspect of life. Many people have a misconception that Islam is an oppressive religion, where women are covered from head to toe, and are not allowed any freedom or rights. In fact, women in Islam are given more rights, and have been for the past 1400 years, compared to the only-recently rights given to non-Muslim women in some western and some other societies. But there are, even now, societies where women are still oppressed, as I mentioned earlier in relation to Hindu women. Muslim women have the right to inheritance. They have the right to run their own trade and business. They have the full right to ownership, property, disposal over their wealth to which the husband has no right. They have the right to education, a right to refuse marriage as long as this refusal is according to reasonable and justifiable grounds. The Qur'an itself, which is the Word of God, contains many verses commanding men to be kind to their wives and stressing the rights of women. Islam gives the right set of rules, because they are NOT made by men, but made by God; hence it is a perfect religion.
Quite often Muslim women are asked why they are covered from head to toe, and are told that this is oppression -it is not. In Islam, marriage is an important part of life, the making of the society. Therefore, a woman should not go around showing herself to everybody, only for her husband. Even the man is not allowed to show certain parts of his body to none but his wife. In addition, God has commanded Muslim women to cover themselves for their modesty:
"0 Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) over their bodies (when outdoors). That is most convenient that they could be known as such (i.e. decent and chaste) and not molested. " (Qur'an 33:59)
If we look around at any other society, we find that in the majority of cases women are attacked and molested because of how they are dressed. Another point I'd like to comment on is that the rules and regulation laid down in Islam by God do not apply just to women but to men also. There is no intermingling and free-running between men and women for the benefit of both. Whatever God commands is right, wholesome, pure and beneficial to mankind; there is no doubt about that. Averse in the Qur'an explains this concept clearly:
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and protect their private parts (i.e. from indecency, illegal sexual acts, etc.); that will make for greater purity for them. And God is well aware of what they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and protect their private parts (from indecency, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.); and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments. .. " (Qur'an, Surah AI-Nur 24:31)
When I put on my hijab (veil), I was really happy to do it. In fact, I really want to do it. When I put on the hijab, I felt a great sense of satisfaction and happiness. Satisfied that I had obeyed God's command. And happy with the good and blessings that come with it. I have felt secure and protected. In fact people respect me more for it. I could really see the difference in behaviour towards me.
Finally, I'd like to say that I had accepted Islam not blindly, or under any compulsion. In the Qur'an itself there is averse which says "Let there be no compulsion in religion". I accepted Islam with conviction. I have seen, been there, done that, and seen both sides of the story. I know and have experienced what the other side is like, and I know that I have done the right thing. Islam does not oppress women, but rather Islam liberates them and gives them the respect they deserve. Islam is the religion God has chosen for the whole of mankind. Those who accept it are truly liberated from the chains and shackles of mankind whose ruling and legislating necessitates nothing but the oppression of one group by another and the exploitation and oppression of one sex by the other. This is not the case of Islam, which truly liberated women and gave them an individuality not given by any other authority
And may I add
The Vedas too dont sanction:
idol-worship, animal sacrifices, ancestor worship, pilgrimages, priestcraft, offerings made in temples, the caste system, untouchability, child marriages and discrimination against women according to Arya Samaj founder Swami Dayananda Saraswati
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Dayananda)
I'm glad u found the right path for u. And I agree, Islam does liberate women, it is the societies that oppress them.
Whether u change the way of calling god i hope u r content that u have reached god I hope... Or i still didnt get it was it the people around u in Hinduism that stopped u from reaching god or was it that U LOST FAITH out of helplessness? Christ summon the Krishna from the Ganges....
Sister, I must congratulate you to become muslim. You accepted the true religion Islam after study and comparison.
Regards
A brother
that was well said. exactly my feelings but you did put it very eloquently. its a pity truth didnt try out judaism and/or budhism as well. i d have loved to know how women fare there as well.
do it right - the first time!
This is the biggest mistake all religions make...
No religion is perfect as every priest gives his own views of the scriptures.
There is no superior religion. All religions lead to the same path.
If you try to understand each religion & study it in deep you will see that they are different parts of the same object. They might not be identical but fit together.
Its like a road map, each from different destination towards one place.
Each map looks different, has different landmarks but reach the same end.
The biggest threat today is playing one religion against the other with a desire to creat hatred towards the other. These things are being engineered in order to create a world without any religion.
eg Koran, Bible & Jewish scriptures today say how MAN & WOMAN was created, with their names, with the names of their linage upto the modern history. Giving discriptions of the those times, their food, the famine, flood, palgue, the kings all up to modern history.
The 3 scriptures are not identical nor are they opposite but complement each other just like the bibles of John, Mathew, Luke & Mark are not identical nor opposite but complement each other.
Yet "Certain" Scienctist support the Illuminati "Darwin Theory", which is only a "theory".
Science says its impossible to have inter-specices-breeding. Scientist have been trying to Cross-breed species from years and all they have come up with is "Liger" a Lion & Tiger cross breed. And that too is sterile & cannot have any offspring.
American Association of Physical Anthropologists 1996 statement on race say that all human populations derive from a common ancestral group.( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race)
The Hindu religion does not have this map. The map they have is one which the other 3 do not have. That of Rig-Veda, Sama-Veda , Yajur-Veda, Atharva-Veda (agriculture & healing of disease), Ayurveda (medicine), Dhanur Veda (military science) Gandharva Veda (music and dance) & Sthapatya Veda (Architecture).
So on for other religions. All religion have their own road map which the others dont have. You have to combine all religions to understand the knowledge that says it all leads to the same place.
Girl...u know whats my weak point...
Anyways everytime u only tell me the menu but never invite for some good food...
Chalo then bye girl...take care...and have fun...i m also leaving...
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Bye, my lunch time.....sorry to tease you....LOL
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How are you? Still hanging around in the office? Not feeling hungry yet? How about Green beans curry and Moth usal? (well, do you know Usal?)
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What i meant was...your finishing line in ur long post in this thread was funny...in a nicer way...
You had mentioned "sorry bout ur English because thats not ur first language and even your third language" Well that line was funny...
So how u doing...
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Not getting you, clear it, my english is funny ????
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Hey Shreeya...how u doing buddy...
Looks like u r quite busy...that was a good way to end the earlier long post...
Eng sorry bout that...its not ur first lang either ur third lang...that was way too funny...
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me 2 i dont comment on religion as that person will answer on the judgment day n not me
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
t_coffee_me,
Normally I never comment on religion threads. But this one somehow.....well, forget it..
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Congratulations for being Muslim and one of our sisters in Islam. May God bless you!!
u read that long peace of what ever u can name it .....lol
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
Dear Truth,
I afraid you have exaggerated everything. You need not feel guilty if you had accepted Islam. Yes, I think you are feeling guilty in some corner of your heart that you are trying to convince it to yourself. I am Hindu and proud to be one. And as far as I know my religion believes in peaceful co-existence of every religion. There are some morons in my religion too, but show me one place where they are not existing. Also Hindu religion doesn't believe in conversion. You can be Hindu by birth only and if you yourself wish to get converted to it. No other way and no forceful conversions too. Thats why Hindus never attacked any other nation in their 5000 years of history, they don't need to.
The things you have written about widows are the things of past. I think you are more influenced by Bollywood Masala (spicy) films. Now the widows can re-marry and spend their normal life.
About dowry, yes it is existing in some forms, but the things are changing too. For your information the cast to which I belong, don't have Dowry system. Me and my other 2 sisters got married to our respective wonderful husbands without paying a single cent as dowry. Well, I expect it to stop fully though. Men are no more treated as GODs too.
The catchy title you have given, can you please replace it by 'A tale of Hindu and Christian (or English?) women' ? No you can't do that because than you know this forum would be verbally shattered in pieces.
Sorry for my English, as it is not my first language, not even third.
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Well "Truth" chosen what she feels right for her and where she feels
comfortable. She believes in what she knows.
Good for her.
Every one has their own mind to choose that needs to be accepted by all.
No matter who we are and how we are, I have been taught from a little girl to respect everyone. It is the faith in god and doing good things which will make the difference.
I'm proud to say i'm a hindu and i still believe in my religion and I pray too. Many things which are stated there in applicable to the country of origin only.
I'm born and brought up in Malaysia. There is no dowry system or what so ever like treating the women badly there. I grew up with all the freedom and never regret being a HINDU WOMEN.
It's just a humble request pls be sensitive in what you post on this site. It might just HURT others!
Mohommed12 - FIRE is a better film on the subject issue:)
Its too long to read...Good for her...respect all religion..belive in GOD and not in religion.
I didnt ,..lol..it was long..so i just read the beginning and the end..anuyways..i will read it now
Muhammed did u read the full thing
lol
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
Do spread the truth!
This story was also put in in one bollyowood film...I think its WATER.