American teacher killed?

Bschus, it is not necessary, even in certain circumstances force an adult to kill if protested badly.

Knowing a few similar cases in my town recently. The major risk is for lonely staying ladies at higher risk, They needs to be exctra alert and never allows a stranger or even known guard/male maids inside the rooms, when they are alone.

Maybe, Brit. But it wasn't anyone, it was a security guard from a third-world country, which raises questions about screening methods and immigration control. In many countries police clearances and passports can be acquired fraudulently very easily. For example, I understand that it is common for underage laborers from some countries simply to travel under an older sibling's name and passport. Maybe this guy was properly vetted and screened, but we would never be told if it turned out he wasn't. After all, someone in adult life doesn't usually suddenly start raping and killing; typically there is a behavior pattern that has long been established.

I think we are focusing wrongly on the security guard aspect. It could have been anybody..

Lesson : Dont keep security guards where you dont need one.

QDCLover, the murder took place in her apartment in Al Sadd, she worked in Wakra.

That is the second murder in Wakra in the last few years that I know about. Wakra is the murder capital of Qatar! Or it could be the industrial area because no one cares if those people kill each other.

and then i'm not a female,.but noticed. hence if i was from the other gender,. it would have been in and on the door by now,.it only takes ony fool at your door :(

and yes, i will ask my landlord to install both features anyway,.because i dont know who will be in the app after me

Right Brit, thats the sad part...parents still waiting for their daughter's dead body :(

"better"? Rape or Robbery;-p

To be raped and murdered or robbed and murdered.... hmmmm.... which would people prefer to read?

I am not trivialising the matter.. I am just trying to show how words can lesson the actions. (If you understand my drift).

Its been interesting to see how much emphasis has been put on the money that was supposedly taken from her... In one of the articles it was stated that the money she had on her was found in his possession.

How do they know the money was even there or how much it was?

Xena..

I thought the same..What is sad is that the body is still here with the authorities and teh parenrts are waiting for answers and closure..

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DP

And this is not one of those cases where hiding the facts will protect anybody. I'm sure even the victim's family will not wish that anyone has to go through something like this, hence may very well not mind the details coming out.

Cracydutch: I don't either! And now it's starting to disturb me far more than before. Guess something terrible has to happen for us to realize how lax we may have been all this time, lulled as we are into that false sense of security.

The issue here mainly with single ladies, those needs to be extra alert and cautious all the time.

do you have a 'spyglass" in you door ,i dont

do you have a security chain on the door,. i dont

thought about when i rented the app.. so would it be wise to ask the landlord to install those " safety features"

The problem is that we don't know the full or even part of the story..

Xena says that she has it on good authority that it was rape.

the article in her local paper says robbery.

the police is keeping quiet..

Because its the kind of crime we may all be vulnerable to, God forbid, considering most of us stay in either flats or compounds, all manned by security guards, Maintainence guys, etc. knowing the details as to exactly what happened is essential so we all can take the required cautionary steps to prevent such horrors from reoccurring. For example how did he manage to get into her apartment? Did he have a spare key? This doesn't appear to be just a spur of the moment killing..appears very premediated.

I am surprised and seriously doubt that Money could take LIFE in the Richest country of the World :(

http://articles.mcall.com/2012-11-23/news/mc-jim-thorpe-teacher-killed-qatar-20121123_1_preschool-kids-richard-brown-jim-thorpe

any further update?

It appeared Qatar wakes up ONLY when WhiteHouse calls :)

If only they had been given cake to eat :O(

Segmund--look at what the workers and servants did in France in 1789, Russia in 1917 and China in 1949.

It is indeed a great tragedy. I hope that her parents, and everyone else, would soon see justice done in this case. I hope the law would take no time to drop its punishment of the murderer's life:

Either heavens, by lightning, strike the murderer dead

Or earth, gape open wide and eat him quick!

Somehow I have noticed that generally peoeple tend to trust the security guards more than they can be trusted. Although, I do not intend to do any offense done to anyone on the basis of their occupation; however, it is very important to keep in mind that these security guards, drivers, servants and maids, have a greater potential to harm someone than those who are not related to us directly.

Last year, in Karachi Pakistan, a woman and her two kids were put to death after they resisted the robbery bid of a long-trusted gardener in the house.

One of my forefathers (the brother of my great grand father) was slaughtered at the age of 7 or 8, by a servant, apparently to snatch a gold chain around the child's neck.

It is a lesson for us all. Do not trust the security guards too much. If you are a woman, please do not try to be overfriendly with them. They usually take it in the wrong way, and may develop malicious intentions.

Careful Brit--people will start posting about how she dressed and should not have been smiling, etc. Unlike the West, such things can be used in Qatar as grounds for a legitimate defense.

I just wonder if this security guard had been properly vetted. So many people here from third-world countries are here on invalid papers are papers that have been received by giving false information.

RIP Jennifer, finally the full article has been posted above so we know what happened !

It is wrong. but seen it happen many times. A girl smiles, acts friendly, and the guy gets the wrong idea.

"Things got out of hand"?????? "assumed"????

I can't comment further.

Perhaps we are trying to read too much into this..

My own perception is that she was young and friendly and in a new world. The idiot probably misinterpreted her friendliness and "assumed" too much. Then things got out of hand and ended up in the murder of the poor young woman.

All we can hope now is that she gets the justice she deserves...

What happened to her is tragic. No one who lives at the complex expected anything like this to ever happen.

This has taught us to always keep up our guard even with those we think have our best interest at heart.

We would rather not have the details of what happened out because we have our families who would worry to the point that they want us home.

It is hard for many of us who work with her to deal with what happened. Please understand that for us we will remember her as a friend and a teacher but most of all a person who's life was tragically taken. She is someone's child who isn't returning home the way she was sent to Qatar.

Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers.

If the newspapers cannot or will not report the true facts of crimes in Qatar, then the citizens and residents cannot take the right precautions to avoid being a victim. Complacency will set it because Qatar is a 'safe country'

It is time for Qatar to be honest about what goes on here, even if the subjects are difficult.

Terrible tragedy. I think it highlights how little some of the foreign labor force is vetted. I've met underage maids and workers who travel and work on older siblings passports; I imagine plenty of criminals are able to falsify their records too in some of these countries.

Thanks Xena for the info.

RIP Jennifer.

murders only happen in qatar ? other countries are very safe it seems, atleast safe from drone attacks

1) Kenyan security guard in her building

2) Attempted rape gone wrong

3) First tried strangulation. When that didn't work, he stabbed her to death.

4) She worked at the Modern English School in Wakrah

I cannot divulge my sources.

Rest in peace, Jennifer. (What's with the photo? Wrong choice, bad taste by Doha News!)

Oh!!.. Qatar being a safe place is highly questionable.. besides these news never reached the local news papers.. Well, don't know what more to come..

we don't know the facts , so let's not second guess..

@My Sense -- I'm curious, what makes you say that? I think jumping to such conclusions can cause dangerous prejudices without fair basis...

The report doesn't indicate any suspicions so far that it was a hate crime, or that it had anything to do with nationality/race/etc. I know the press here is limited in investigative reporting so we probably will never know much more about the case than this. But still.

RIP Jennifer....

Let us hope that justice is carried out..

Frenchies--I don't think anyone is saying her life was more or less important because of her nationality. It's mentioned as a matter of course. Almost all news in Qatar notes the person's nationality, especially news about crime. If the full story is ever known, the murderer's nationality will also be given.

I agree that many crimes are purposely mislabeled or swept under the rug. Criminal prosecutions here are rare and serious prison time even rarer. Most expats are simply deported.

BG its not a proper openion

I guess sarcasm is not your strong point

The US embassy won't say anything other than the family and relatives were contacted.

I've been in the UAE also but case like this.. most all the tine they hide or they don't want to publish in the news coz they avoid to scared the people in their country specially the expat.. sad to say but sometimes it's happened mostly but they hide in the news :(

Let's just hope that the accused stands trial, or at least shows up for the trial and does not have it continually postponed because her mobile is turned off or it conflicts with her travel schedule. Oh wait, that is another murder case.

So, it could be a crime of passion ...

May she rest in peace and may her loved ones find the strength to bear her loss..

Hi all, I spoke to the director of the school where the teacher worked. She said a suspect is in custody and has confessed.

Here's the update:

http://dohanews.co/post/36133838273

Rofl Ariel.

The article states "murder".

Yes, monkey, that's great logic.

if the american died by killing or been murder, it will be big issue in any news papers, so i'm sure died by natural causes.

still more to go they have killed millions

Khana--I used to read to for the hysterical excuses the various gardeners gave for being in a maid's room at 2am.

Murdered.........!???Wish the true facts are known soon...

Lol at Arien

The medias here should stop journalism and start making toilet tissues.

Qatar has zero crime because we don't report it! Have a safe day!

agree. It was more of funny section. specially some of judgment passed for crimes committed.

But even the court roundup was limited in its reporting as so many crimes are downgraded or settled out of court.

Qatar is crime free.

Than? What is special over there?

Will await further details to emerge...and I certainly hope they do!

be court roundup section in GT. but now that too is gone.

Look at the dailies from neighbouring UAE, almost every crime caught is reported with all the details.

If it is a murder, it is worrying and it should be reported.

How often are murders and suicides reported in Qatar? Hardly ever.

I wonder why they want to keep it quiet if it is murder? Murders happen all around the world, so it pays to be careful wherever you are.

cant open the link, But if its a murder, its always alarming/sad to know about an expat

Very worrying. The article states "murdered".

More eep investigative reporting from Doha news :O(

Anyway, if you read the article, it says that "female American teacher was reportedly murdered in Doha last week"

"No details about what happened to the woman are immediately available. Doha News has been told that she was a teacher at English Modern School, but a secretary there said she could not confirm or deny the incident."

killed=murdered really? intrigued!

Clearly there have mentioned as 'killed' so it's murder, it's funny to ask that 'is it normal death or what', it's a single death man just leave it.

Wht is the aim of this post???

killed as in accident or murdered.??

The news is not clear. There was car accident involving American national but that was couple of months ago.

Normal death or anything unusual?

People die every day!