Being the maid

and jjj75, I couldn't agree more.... espcially with the QAWS vet bill recently been more than most maids get in 10 years of working in Qatar - and that was over a span of 8months;-p

I think Qatar.suger has withdrawn from the verbal volley, I hope she has seen the light!!

Qatar.Suger said Frenchman answer my question; who is exploiting?

Is that a rhetorical question? It's obvious to me when someone pays a servant less that it costs to kennel a cat (excellent example btw guys).

Fubar

Quite, last time I took my cat to the vets she required treatment - 2 nights at the vet and more than 3000QAR later, felt like I had been wallet raped.

And I don't think I will be surprised to find out which nationality is the local partner - greedy and again a sense of entitlement

I think it’s amusing that you have to pay the vet more to have your cat stay in a kennel for a week than what a Qatari would pay a nanny to look after their child.

I guess you reap what you sow when it comes to childcare. Everything that a parent, or nanny, does to a small child will resonate with them for the rest of their lives. And leaving a small child in the care of someone who hates their job and resents their employers… well, that’s just a recipe for disaster.

But fine if you value money over the welfare of your child.

Fubar

"Why did slave labor become so entrenched in certain families here?"

Because there is an ugly sense of entitlement that has crept over this land which has led to the situation in respect to maids and many other foreign nationals being treated and kept in the most awful circumstances.

It was not always thus so. Money has brought power and also the power to corrupt

Frenchman answer my question; who is exploiting?

This thread has got to be a joke, right?

People seriously think it's okay to pay their maids less than 1000QR/month?

Wow, I'd never want to work for you.

All my western friends pay their maids AT LEAST 1500/month, generally more. They work only 6 days, get Friday totally off to do anything they want, and only work 8 hours a day.

Why did slave labor become so entrenched in certain families here?

It is criminal that certain people think that their culture is equal to, or better than, the western culture, when they demonstrate no concern or caring for their fellow human. They just treat them like slaves.

Disgusting.

We aware and they do aware and we comunicate

Well said Xena. And even if she was naive and signed on for a paltry salary, that does not mean that the sponsor cannot raise it. Just because you CAN exploit someone does not mean you SHOULD.

i am just an average paid professional, and i paid my nanny $400 a month with free to use our internet. we bought her mobile phone, pay her kids tuition fees and extra monthly allowances, she can freely watch movies during non-busy hours, with free time on weekends, she keeps her passport, she eat with us during meals, and we treat her as a family member. she is happy.

My family can sleep so well at night. And this what matters most. Frenchieman is so right...

are you aware, that when in their own countries, maids are showed contracts that detail a monthly salary of more than QR2000? and that they pay money for this privilige of being given a job overseas? - money that can amount to thousands of Riyals, just to come to another country for a better life!

Are you aware, that once they are here, they are given a contract that by far understates their salaries, and don't have any option but to sign, since going back to their own country will mean they have to find another way to pay off the debt they made to get here in the first place...

Have you ever spoken to your maid and asked her what her original contract stated?

totally seeking for problems about Qatari who just went to the Working Desk, where is providing workers with a salary mentioned in the contract and done dealing with the employee itself.

The requester can not do anything with the salary since it is came from a company and the "maid" has idea about that.

Since yesterday judging about this issue running in a cycle just to provide wrong idea and "slaving" people working here.

we all treated our maid.

She is having her own T.V at her room and satellite. Mobile phone. Friends. can freely watch movies and come with us to the cinema paying her the tickets. she keeps her passport, she eat with us during meals and come with me to the grocery to buy whatever she needs and I m paying for her and she is loved. Paying her advanced salary if she request and she doesn't have to wait till the end of the month to get paid.

BTW I work in the HR in the biggest company in Doha that I don't want to mention abd I SEE !

Yes Volleygirl5, confirmed everything that I had always thought...

Totally on the same page and Frenchieman here. Learned a lot about the mentality of SOME people.

Exactly.

Yes Freinchieman, there is a reason why she does not, maybe she does not want them to communicate with the outside world!!

m in doha--apparently Qatari.suger does.

I agree with all Frenchiman has said, could not have put it better.

Qatari Suger, you typify all that I think is wrong with the sponsorship system and how certain (and I am not being specific) nationalities treat their domestic helpers.

This is modern day slavery, exploiting people who know no better and when they do realise what a bad deal they are getting, in terms of treatment and wages, they can do nothing about it as passports are witheld.I thought this is considered Haraam - obviously not!

BTW, I work in recruitment and US nationals(or any other western expats for that matter)DO NOT get paid more than Qataris.

a lot of maids have their own laptop. who could stop them from using it?

My criticisms are directed towards you, not an entire nationality.

I pay my maid more than three times what you pay yours. That is why exploited maids such as yours look longingly at my maid's life and run away.

I'm off for the night. Happy to re-engage with you tomorrow on the topic.

Look at you seeking for anything to blame Qatari Families.

Poor you

and I just came from Paris and it is really high I spent much more than here even the food and the water are really high. Seems you didn't go there for a while and forgot about the cost there.

what I did is writing the truth what you don't want to believe and keep your ideas and things at your mind.

I don't care to change your limited perspective.

However there are many big things such as government, low and human rights that are done dealing with this subject.

I don't know why you don't want to see them as employee and keep talking that as they are slaves and not respecting them !

and yeah you are paying your maid twice your salary I see.

Inflation in Qatar is higher and the cost of living is comparable. What is different are the laws that allow human beings to exploit one another to a degree that is seen as criminal by much of the civilized world. I am just glad that elements of the government in their wisdom are realizing the evils of the system and are taking steps to put an end to what is tantamount to slavery and human trafficking.

But so long as you are able to sleep at night, that is what really matters.

Hope u seek for more negotiable topics

Keep stereotyping :)

I enjoyed typing here

Uranus

As I mentioned.

and I am not complaining this is really fair.

I just came from Europe and everything is really expensive !!! that's why there salaries are high because the prices are high.

it is all about economy and Economic inflation back your home

got me?

very well said frenchieman..i agree with you big time..

Qatari.Suger--Just because you CAN exploit someone by taking advantage of her poverty does not mean that you SHOULD.

And I would be terrified to leave my child with someone I paid just 750 because you get what you pay for.

And my image of how poorly Qataris view and treat their maids is coming increasingly from your posts on this thread. I do hope you are the exception rather than the rule.

according to yahoo news brangelina are looking to hire a new nanny. they're paying USD 150,000 per annum. everyone, this is your chance to try being one :)

Hi Qatari.Suger. Just joining the thread. Would you explain what you meant by

"So answer me .. why Americans got more than Qataris here? while we are at the same grade ??"

Cheers.

She keeps her passport and ID and health insurence and even my daughter !!!

OMG ! Who u talked to ! to get this image LOL !!

this is really funny

I wonder why r u critiquing that without knowing the facts !

you can research about the income and the outcome of each country and the salaries are given to, based on nationalities in the whole world !

Every job has its qualifications and skills. and there many countries in the world the "maid" can choose from.

Each employee is free to sign a contract and go out.

Honey the salaries are given equal much and it give much. for example it can pay rent of the house, education and health ...etc

As i studied in my business class there is a standard for each country based on its currency and economy.

So answer me .. why Americans got more than Qataris here? while we are at the same grade ??

Nothing to stereotype. Your the one who pays her maid the slave wage and brags about exploiting her. You must be very proud.

So do you follow the contract (and law) and let her keep her own passport?

I bet you only read my words ;) I wonder y LOL !!

and guessing wrong things with ur stereotype mind

hahaha

I think Qatar.Suger has given us some super insights into why maids working for local families always look so downtrodden and literally run away to work for Western families!

Thanx!!!

Qatar.Suger--your posts only underline what people are writing about this thread with regard to NOT wanting to work for locals rather than Westerners. lol!

I bet you keep her passport, too.

Khattak

you are going way out of the subject !

Frenchman the basic salary is 730 in a signed contract from an official company and If my maid didn't want to work she will tell me do not worry.

You are having a big concern for her hahaha. She is educated and she knows what she wants and she agreed for the contract.

QatariSugar.....You seem to be the least aware on this thread.

Employers are fed up of thieving, lazy, and untrained maids and the maids are sick of their arrogant, nasty and rude masters. I have seen maids who verbally, physically and sexually abusing children every where. If I would want to work as a maid I will expect my master to give due respect and take respect and I will be loyal to him/er. At the end of the day we all are servants of God and for someone at the work place whether we are black or white.

Qatari.Suger. Wow! A whole 1,000 a month. They must be licking your shoes in gratitude. THAT is why I would not want to work for a non-Western family. Sure, plenty of exceptions on both sides, but exceptions prove the rule.

Are you being serious that you pay them QAR1000/month plus make them work till 8.30 at night (and I note that you do not specify how many days a week they have to work).

That is truly an appalling low amount and very long days...

Live with it or get no maid nor do u get to be a maid ;)

clean your house, wash your clothes take care of your kids and go to work...

Look other jobs ada than being a maid... ;)

so what is the solution if both are not perfect ..:-)

If u read till the end, I did conclude...

Gues you dnt lyk wat u read...

what do u like to conclude with ur speech ;-)

I meant the kids treat the maids with no respect

And there are horrible employers who would leave there maids sleep in a kitchen, wear so awful uniforms and let the kids treat the maids with no employers..

I say there's no perfect employer nor maid...

Did you know that the maids too do horrible things? its not always the employer, th employer treats the maid right, what happens? The maid either steals and runs away or hurt the innocent kids left under her supervision...... There is a case just last week in Kenya where a house boy cut a 15 year old girl, stabs the mother and steals valuable property...

Another case is my cousin whose money is stolen from a long time house boy, n its not just pennies its millions.. what do u say to that?

Khattak was talking how he treats his maids.

i would not like to be working as a maid...but would like to keep a french maid

Khattak !

Do not speak of things you do not know about !

I have 2 maids working with me at home. As I, my friends and family do.

We help them ! give a holiday. The are having salary on time and really a good amount of bonus such as 250 extra each month above the 730 !!! with a free phone calls to their countries !

they wear whatever they like "respecting " the culture they are in. As my maid came from her country with one T shirt and pant expecting me to buy her and I did. She requested to wear the uniform and I agree that maid must wear uniforms as we all wear at work ! Do u wear jeans , shorts or t shirt at work ?

They go every week to church with their friends by my own car and driver ! they go shopping with me and I buy them whatever they want without giving any Riyal of the total 980 QR !!

The sleep at 9 pm . No work after 8:30 !

I am an employee and I would dream of a boss treating like that !

maid is not a easy job.most of them they dont like to be one but they are force to do it because of way of living and status in there life they deserve to be pay well and they deserve love and respect,love means treat them as one of the family.respect you will be respect love and they like love you as well...

Muslims wont make their maids sit in the waiting lobby of the restaurant & enjoy their meals inside. They wont bound their maid to wear an ugly uniform so that they can be identified as maids.

The list can go on...but dont want to spoil this thread.

Some people here sound racist and act as perfect and blaming "Qatari Family" for having maid ! and does not have any idea how do they treat them !

Qatari Families are muslims and know how to treat !

Hate to sound racist but no way I'd want to work for an Arab family after reading some of the threads on QL with people's comments when I tried to learn about finding a maid. Some posters sounded like a bunch of slave traders. I know some are no doubt decent people but I wouldn't want to take the risk. Probably plenty of Western jerks also but odds of landing with one are MUCH lower.

Then you need look no further than the State of Qatar that pays my consulting fees. I clean up some its messes, so I guess you could say I am a financial maid in a way . . .

They should be Human beings.

god bless the person whom you are working for :(

Qatari.Suger--I am guessing she will describe you! That is, if she is smart.

And my maid does have a computer, although she won't be on facebook and QL until she finishes ironing my towels and washcloths.

Well, yes, they DID ask for a nanny...who usually does take care of kids...non?

maids does not have laptops to to answer your question. However I will ask my maid and get back to u.

nomerci--they have an awful lot of kids, though.

Baazigar--I am sure you would like that. Sorry I am taken, and even if I wasn't you could not afford me and my obscene expat salary. Any luck with your ad for a "ladyboy"? My guess is you'll have to pay extra for that sort of thing beyond the usual cooking and cleaning wages.

I guess the Jolie/Pitt family.

will you work for me :?

American family. They pay more and treat their maids as members of the family, usually. No kids because it is more work.

I would not want to work as a nanny for a national family. I'm sure some are nice, but the maids look so defeated and listless when I see them at the malls trailing their charges.

is not good in this part of the world...

I wash and iron my clothes and cook and clean the house I know how you feel. We had a maid once but she said that there was nothing for her to do in our house as we did most of the stuff ourselves and she became so bored and that she wanted to go back to her country!

Come & work for me, I will pay you every 6 months :)

We always chat about life as the sponsor but what about the reverse? This is a chance to think about a difference perspective!