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salaam mate

am doing ok,

xams were ok, lol

i wanna discuss something abt the league, will ring u soon if ya dont mind.

chrz

have a gud nyt

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Long time no see....how you been bro?

What's new and exciting in your world? How did your exams go? You still playing the beautiful game over the summer?

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ya God craeted world

and ya saddavi belives in evolution too, but not darwism lol

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ya God craeted world

and ya saddavi belives in evolution too, but not darwism lol

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what means afar?

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na,not for me.

:-(

he is the one i would never invite to come.

but unfortunately he comes without invitation.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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You too, have a great day.

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It all boils down to "what works for you?"

Believe whatever works for you, as long as at the end of the day you do not harm others or infringe on their rights to believe whatever they want to.

I'm off for the day...thanks all for a lively chat. 

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Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

For sure, your question will be answered - all in good time ! For some, the answer is easily understood and for some it takes time. It also depends on the sincerity of the seeker, as they say ! However, the smarter thing to do is to find the answer before our long lost friend Mr. Death arrives.

And when it does get answered, remember that "I told you so" !

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The chicken is an ACTUAL chicken, whereas the egg is only a POTENTIAL chicken......since actuality supersedes potentiality, we must therefore conclude that the chicken came first! Ha! LOL

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it is the same as the chicken and the egg.Which was first?

????

Some say Chicken,some egg.

But who can prove his theory?

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We have a saying back home: 

 The only 2 things sure in life are death and taxes (not necessarily in that order) LOL

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killed the cat.....

Anyway, ever hear of "as sure as death". 

All questions will surely be answered at that point of time.  Strangely though, no one will be around to tell it !!! 

 Meh I didn't like the last one.  Prefer this one.

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And btw....nice new Avatar Gypsy....but your last one was so shortlived lol

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Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

And if you would just research a little further back than 2000 years (the start of monotheism) you'd see how god did not bother to send messages or prophets to humans because they worshipped their own make believe gods.....and how they were slowly assimilated into one god....and how even monotheism is becoming obsolete as the "miracles" become scientifically explained phenomenon over time.

And why would he send ALL his messengers to one tiny georaphical region (the middle east) and ignore EVERY other continent on the planet? Why are all three peoples of the book from the same area? I mean, were Africans and South Americans and The great Chinese Dynasties not worthy of receiving any of his prophets? 

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Having read through the posts, I am convinced that swissgirl's curiosity will remain as it is !

 I prefer to see them on donuts.

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why he sendet no messages bevore???

hmmm

why???

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 At least I don't need to see Jesus in an orange!

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 Mickey Mouse was written in books to, do people believe that he exists? 

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so many peoples believe what they read.

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 How do you know God sent that?  where you there, did you see or hear him?

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god is actually been converted into a diety by ppl! but that doesnt mean that God does not exist... god sent his message to ppl thru many messengers which ppl debated on and changed to the way they saw fit to their lives at their time.

But God kept on sending his messengers such as eg. Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(Peace be upon all of them)!

Finally God sent his full message thru his last messenger in a language which he could translate to his people. Every messenger got the message in a language that he understood. Like Jesus got his message in Aramic.

God is the creator! he is ever living, he is not born nor created! He is the creator.. he was the one who created the miracle...

when ppl fall into trouble and need to get out they always come back to basics of asking god for a miracle.. so from this you can understand that God is the sustainer of life!

When you read up on science, their discoveries and the explaination provided by them, you will see how god's hand is involed at various stages, Raider.

A good book to read is one by Dr Maurice Bucaille called The Quran and Modern Science... he was a french christian doctor who was called upon to examine the Pharoh Ramases the second.

and following his research and study he wrote this book comparing the Quran, Bible, torah and Modern Science and the way everything fits in!

I dont want to bore you, but if you truly seek knowledge, you should research more into this topic...

 HA! never underestimate the power of a single crazy/stupid person who believes wholeheartdly that they are right!  Look at Bush! Look at Osama!  I'll get you AND your little dog to!

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(kidding)

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Don't sing it....bring it you slob...or have you forgotten what peak physical condition i'm in! LOL

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yes is the couch jumper religion..i'm just curious what is it about if Robbie williams have to buy some dessert land to learn more about the planet out there and aliens too.. I dont know if aliens really exist but i like the movie Aliens 1,2,3 and Vs predator..LOL 

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a fairy unicorn..talk about mixed breeds!! 

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have u people ever stopped to consider that not all things are meant to be known...we are just frogs in a pond, wonderng whats out there. Tell me something..Lets say for the sake of argument that someone DOES tell u who created God..then what..whats ur next question u'd hope to get answered...who created God's creator?

 Live the life given to you and be happy...people go through life worrying about things that really dont matter like they have another life in their Savings account to spend.  

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 Are you making fun of my diety Ragna???  Blasphemy! I will have you hung by your toes for this!

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Why not something a little more exotic.... can I interest you in a pink invisible flying fairy unicorn???? LOL

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scientolotot in doha? 

 Oooo I want to worship a figment of someones imagination!   Can I worship Mickey Mouse?

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I personally do not want or need to worship a figament of anyone's imagination

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GOD is very sacred and Divine. we should just worship GOD as like that.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

The universe is capable of producing miracles? Maybe its divine...lets worship it!

So who or what created god saajidh? Or he created himself? like a mircale, so that's why we worship him?

You think about it....isn't it more logical that our ancestors made dieties up to explain what they didn't know and feared? Like the romans, greeks, babylonians, etc etc....We KNOW for a fact their gods were just make believe....what makes your god any better?

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Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

The bing bang theory works on the concept that a 'big bang' occured. Okay so no one has to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

But according to scientists the universe keeps on expanding...

And the theory further goes on to state that in order for the Big bang to produce the expanding effect we observe today, two conditions are a must.

1.) Zero Volume

2.) Very High density

this, in laymans terms mean, that it should not occupy any space( as in area) but should be heavy.

Now the question posed towards the believers of this theory is how is such a state possible? its not scientifically possible! so what water does this theory hold at the end of the day????

think about it ppl... this sounds like a .... MIRACLE maybe??!!!!

make up your own mind!!!

;.)

Maybe you are right.

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when there is pain thats mean lack of love = GOD

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

am curious yet.

:-/

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love created GOD. GOD = Love

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

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IF you feel the need to keep going back to see who created everything...then why stop at god...who created the creator? He is capable of creating himself? then why isnlt the universe capable of that?

Hence the problem with the infamous watch in the desert analogy....and the logical trap of trying to ascribe the universe to a creator.

Statements like the hardhips of life are a test is moral cowardice onthe part of those who WANT to believe in a benevolent loving diety but cannot rencocile that wishful thinking with the harsh realities of the cruelty of our existance!

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But who created God ?

Dear, I have read this article on the web about our BIG questions and wanted to share to ALL!

The Big Questions

At some point in our lives, everybody asks the big

questions: “Who made us,” and “Why are we here?”

So who did make us?

Atheists speak of the Big

Bang and evolution, whereas all others speak of God. Those who answer “I don’t

know” are atheist for all intents and purposes, not because they deny God’s

existence, but because they fail to affirm it.

Now, the Big Bang may explain the origin of the

universe, but it doesn’t explain the origin of the primordial dust cloud. This

dust cloud (which, according to the theory, drew together, compacted and then

exploded) had to come from somewhere. After all, it contained enough matter to

form not just our galaxy, but the billion other galaxies in the known universe.

So where did that come from? Who, or what, created the primordial dust

cloud?

Similarly, evolution may explain the fossil record, but

it falls far short of explaining the quintessential essence of human life—the

soul. We all have one. We feel its presence, we speak of its existence and at

times pray for its salvation. But only the religious can explain where it came

from. The theory of natural selection can explain many of the material aspects

of living things, but it fails to explain the human soul.

Furthermore, anyone who studies the complexities of life

and the universe cannot help but witness the signature of the Creator.[1]

Whether or not people recognize these signs is another matter—as the old

saying goes, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. (Get it? Denial, spelled “de

Nile” … the river Ni … oh, never mind.) The point is that if we see a painting,

we know there is a painter. If we see a sculpture, we know there’s a sculptor;

a pot, a potter. So when we view creation, shouldn’t we know there’s a

Creator?

The concept that the universe exploded and then

developed in balanced perfection through random events and natural selection is

little different from the proposal that, by dropping bombs into a junkyard,

sooner or later one of them will blow everything together into a perfect

Mercedes. In the color and trim of our hearts’ desire, no less.

If there is one thing we know for certain, it is that

without a controlling influence, all systems degenerate into chaos. The

theories of the Big Bang and evolution propose the exact opposite, however—that

chaos fostered perfection. Would it not be more reasonable to conclude that

the Big Bang and evolution were controlled events? Controlled, that is, by the

Creator?

The Arabs tell the tale of a nomad finding an exquisite

palace at an oasis in the middle of an otherwise barren desert. When he asks

how it was built, the owner tells him it was formed by the forces of nature. The

wind shaped the rocks and blew them to the edge of this oasis, and then tumbled

them together into the shape of the palace. Then it blew strands of sheep’s

wool together into rugs and tapestries, stray wood together into furniture,

doors, windowsills and trim, and positioned them in the palace at just the

right locations. Lightning strikes melted sand into sheets of glass and

blasted them into the window-frames, and smelted black sand into steel and

shaped it into the fence and gate with perfect alignment and symmetry. The

process took billions of years and only happened at this one place on

earth—purely through coincidence.

When we finish rolling our eyes, we get the point. Obviously,

the palace was built by design, not by happenstance. To what (or more to the

point, to Whom), then, should we attribute the origin of items of infinitely

greater complexity, such as our universe and our lives?

Another classic argument for atheism focuses upon what

people perceive to be the imperfections of creation. These are the “How can

there be a God if such-and-such happened?” arguments. The issue under

discussion could be anything from a natural disaster to birth defects, from

genocide to grandmother’s cancer. That’s not the point. The point is that

denying God based upon what we perceive to be injustices of life presumes that

a divine being would not have designed our lives to be anything other than

perfect, and would have established justice on Earth.

Hmm … is there no other option?

We can just as easily propose that God did not design

life on Earth to be paradise, but rather a test, the punishment or rewards of

which are to be had in the next life, which is where God establishes his

ultimate justice. In support of this concept we can well ask who suffered more

injustices in their worldly lives than God’s favorites, which is to say the

prophets? And who do we expect to occupy the highest stations in paradise, if

not those who maintain true faith in the face of worldly adversity?

I would hope that, by this line of reasoning, we can

agree upon the answer to the first “big question.” Who made us? Can we agree

that if we are creation, God is the Creator?

If we can’t agree on this point, there probably isn’t

much point in continuing. However, for those who do agree, let’s move

on to “big question” number two—why are we here? What, in other words, is the

purpose of life?

Copyright © 2007 Laurence B. Brown.

to continue reading, please go to this site:

The Big Questions (part 2)

The Big Questions (part 3)

I know you do! I have read the heated debates, and my hats off to you for having the courage to question "WHY" you believe what you do! And I have no problem agreeing to disagree (with the utmost respect) with people like that....its the mindless sheep that infuriate me lol

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my idea exactly... God created the world and then he created evolution as well...

:-)

Which in addition to landing you in hot water with the believers, will beg the question then why is anything written in them not just symbolic and fertile literary imagination?

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 I don't believe that evolution neccessarily negates the existence of a higher force.  I believe religion does, because any force that could create life would never be so stupid as to create religion.

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Which attempts to combine the two and say that eventhough evolution is a proven fact, its is still not evidence against the existence of god because its his doing anyways.

This view is mocked by both sides as being self contradictory in order to be diplomatic and bridge the intellectual divide.

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for my personal view and believe, i think evolution is the answer for all creation with GOD power.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Lets say your narrator is correct, it comes from the Koran.....then it boild down to if you believe in the Koran as the work of god (which he didn't bother to reveal till a few million years after mankind learned to walk upright....and then only in ONE language....to a very small group of people in a limited geographical area....in such vague terms that people STILL argue about its interpretations)...or just another figament of people's imagination (like ALL religions).

I guess we don't need to go any further since we each know where the other stands on this issue.

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as long as it is evolution and not made with human hands or technology.

evolution is intresting.

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Unles these stories were found on clay tables or cave paintings that can be carbon dated to a time that predate mankind....they are not proof that genies predate mankind.....any more than tolkien's works "prove" elves predate mankind!

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Yes SG it does, I think evolution rocks.

     Nothing stopping an advanced race from appearing god like to early humans, a bit of special tech and some nice lights, lol 

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I believe in evolution and that the world was created over millions of years from dust and rocks.

    I have no problem with sentient life from another planet seeding life on this planet, and maybe coming back for a visit.  

Why don't they remove it if the mankind are more enlightned now.

I know the man who enlightned first 1st and show the door for the others.

He is called "GAUTHAM BUDDHA"

Maybe its traditional wording from when people were even less enlightened than today (if that's possible lol). 

But please do not use the argument that if there's a word for it then it must exist....otherwise we'll be trampled by unicorns!

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Sg i am older than the earth and younger then the sun

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RR - why the common law has a provision for Act of God

Many people will disagree and they NEED to believe in something...so religion (even if its made up answers is still better than no answers) fits the bill.....I have no problem with that as long as you are not harming others, or forcing your beliefs on others....believe what works for you!

Hope you are feeling better Swissgirl39.

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i think the same,but sometimes im not sure

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The scientific facts are irrefutable.....unless you want to tell me that god made man in his image and he looked like chromagnum man lol

Look the Earth is older than Religion....and even older than mankind.....heck its even older than ANY life organism....so obviously it came before even the concept of a god.

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did not know you are that old.

lol

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i am not asking who created me.i am asking who created the world.

me i am just a very small and little point on the earth.

but who created it?

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I created the earth  100%

Drink Beer Save Water"

Who created you? Your Parents or the act of God :)