Is friend's life more important or his trust

Good night every body i am off to bed now have to rise early....

i have been following every ones comments and every one has their own point of view....

so no matter what we say or think what had to be done has been done...

this was ment to happen now all we can do is Pray that the kid follows a right path and dosen't do this kind of foolish thing again....

and Thexonic u did the right thing don't have any guilt in you coz you are right Humanity wise and friendship wise too.....

coz when you know all what this kid is doing and God forbid if anything happened to him you would have to carry the guilt all ur life that you knew what he was doing and you didn't inform his parents who could really guide and protect him....

If you become his enemy by helping him...

then this is better than being his trustful friend who would quitly watch his friend ruin his life.....

Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....

PM u r such a cutie pie..

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limits for drinking can be set by law and by society.

i started at age of 19 which is the legal age in most countries but in my place i believe you have to be over 21 to be able to buy it.(cant rem. exactly)

i think more importantly than the age of starting was the fact that he taught me responsiblity to myself as well as to others while drinking .This is the message to be EMPHASISED. Forbiding your children to drink and disclaimimng all responsiblity for their actions is to me ludicrous and impractical.

Iam really proud of my dad in that respect and also tonight especially since the launch of the record ten satellites came through.:_--)))

do it right - the first time!

PM ,as you probably know,parental kids relations are too complex to be reviewed in a website without all the information. i never comment on such threads without knowing both sides of the story.who knows the parents story?there are too numerous factors to be considered here.

i started drinking with my dad and still do. there is a saying in my local language""vellam adichal vayati kedakenam"" .....which means what you drink better stay in your tummy.in other words,know your limits.when on occasion i have crossed someone has been there to guide me back.

i always try to look at the big picture.

do it right - the first time!

has anyone thought from the parents point of view.? i think according to them thexonic is probably the best thing that could have happened to their son.

i wouldnt care if he was drinking himself silly at parties and going home safely with someone else but in qatar ...i wouldnt like anyone to walk in the road,drunk.i have seen the consequences of that, on my operating table,too many times to count.

as for snitching to his parents,i cant comment on that without knowing better the relations between thexonic,his friend and his parents.

human relations are too complex to summarily accept or dismiss in webposts.

do it right - the first time!

All other matters are different what thexonic did is 100% right in my point of view coz not only has he saved his life but also put him in the hands of his parents who can not only keep an eye on him but also guide him with love and care which no friend or siblings can do....

as Thexonic said that he found him in the middle of the road...he was lucky he found a friend who took him home to his parents Imagine if some thing wrong would have happened like the chances were he could be runover by some reckless driver there are many odds but taking him back to his parents was the best thing in my eyes Thexonic has kept his friendship his young friend may not realise it now but one day he will...I am also one who has lost a loved one just for a reason that he was not stopped when there was time and we all regret it to this day coz we miss him...

Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....

If you hadn't gone to his parents and if something should happen to him and his parents find out that you knew and could've prevented it you would be blamed and feel like a horrible friend.

On the other hand, it really depends on the maturity level of a person, if the person is mature and you talk to the him and explain how his actions may be hurting his parents, and those who live in a conservative society understand that, then he would think about it rationally and accept it. But if the person is still juvenile then they may ignore whatever you have to say or even retaliate and in this case, if his actions would lead to more harm in the future, you may choose to go to higher authority i.e. parents, and parents can also handle it in such a way such that he may never know that you told on him. And yes it may be beneficial for him in the future.

I have a friend that was in the same situation that your in and by the way she handled it, and even though her friend got upset over it, things turned out fine. Hopefully they'll turn out fine for you too.

thanks ishutanu :)

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u really did a great thing honestly by telling him to his parents

PM definitely. anything extreme has to be stopped right?, but if he'd be gay, why would that put him in trouble or his parents? the police dont care if a person is gay or straight. Ur statment is like for example comparing a woman who does sin in public by not wearing a hijab to the one who wears hijab and does sins in hiding. Both of them are different issues.

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Thanks Cris mariah,, ur not just cute, ur smart too :D.

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u did a great thing! your friend's life is more important than his trust. once a life is gone and have been wasted u cannot bring it back, but after sometime ur friend will realize that what u have done is for his own goodness, then u will gain back his trust.

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Tweety bird, thanks, The way I see it, yes i did.

I actually called his brother today to discuss this situation, he told me to forget his brother and not be worried about this thing, when he comes here he will handle it and he sais that i did the right thing.

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Scarlett - we all grew up very fast that night. What should have been one of the most fun and exciting times of our lives became a sad and very somber occasion. To this day I can't think of college or graduation and not of him. Every time I attend commencement I remember.

Thexonic - the hardest part was facing his parents at the wake because we KNEW how he was and what he did on his bike and we did very little to stop it because it was more cool to ignore it than to address it head on. It takes courage to take an unpopular stance so keep your head up and stand by your convictions. You may have saved a life!

What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.

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Which one of the above will you take it for granted?

most...very wise words...what a tough lesson to live with. Bless your heart.

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Tweety, thanks, wise enough. Better safe than sorry.

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Tweety, Wise Words!!

My answer is you know your friend and his situation better than anyone in this forum. If your instincts said to tell his parents and you did it for the right reasons (protecting your friend) then there is nothing else to be done or justify in my honest opinion. When I was in college we hung out in a big group much like the QLSG. We had a friend who drank ALOT and then he would drive his motorcycle -and drive it very recklessly. We knew it. We talked about it and we talked to him about it but thats as far as we went because we were his "friends". Last day of classes our senior year he got drunk and drove that bike right into a cement pole and was killed instantly. I will never forget that night and I will always wonder if we should have (could have) done something to stop him from drinking and driving. So thexonic - sometimes being a best friend means doing the hard thing not the easy thing. You might lose a friend - but hopefully only temporarily and not permanently like I did.

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I'm actually the one that dishes out discipline!

My two older brothers don't tell me off! I tell them off! :-)

Although, I'd cr*p myself if I did something stupid and they threatened to tell my father! :-(

QT ... so how often your elder bro / sis giving you an earlful then?

than telling your own parents...its that threat of..."if I hear of you doing this again..I'm telling mom and dad..." that keeps you on the straight and narrow...

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.

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...when I hear they do stupid things!

And they are much further away (UK & VN), but not far enough to get an earful from me!

QT his brother is studying in lebanon.

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Exactly QT! Lol

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you're making entirely too much sense with that comment..

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.

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What??? He has an older brother???

...and the older brother is your friend???

You are a silly boy! Why didn't you just tell his brother?

OMG

He did and should have picked the kid up Mr. Paul, what he didn't have to do was tell his parents the next day.

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kids...Its easy for you all to sit here and pass judgement. Thexonic did what HE thought was right, and yer all villifying him for his actions ! If his friend doesnt speak to him again, then hes not a true friend !!

If he had been hit by a car, then thexonic would have had to live with the fact he didnt pick his friend up, that he chose to do NOTHING.Then he would see the anguish in the parents faces......

Im out of this silly topic !

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Well eveyone has the right to criticize, I dont think I did anything wrong. But I accept ur replies. Good to know there could be other ways that I could've thought of, yea why didn't I, one might wonder... I talked to his big brother who's my best friend, he said that I did a good thing. Now if u call me a back stabber or an axx its just ur opinion. I never back stabbed anyone nor did I betray anyone. As far as the kid is concerned, he's gonna realise it one day and be thankful. I wish I had someone stopping me when I was his age, but I had no one, I had to learn it the hard way. And why is it any of my business, because his brother gave me the responsibility to take care of him. His brother's word means more to me than the kid's friendship.

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Because he walked home drunk??? So what!?! His parents know he drinks, he's drunk before, you were just being high and mighty and interfering in his life.

LoL agree completely Jack Mohan.

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I dont suggest him to leave at that time of the night in the first place.

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Although u were trying to be helpful, I don't agree with what u did. I don't believe u have the right to tell his parents, it's up to him. I know u have his best interest at heart; however, he is old enough to make his own decisions, whether u agree with him or not.

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thexonic...You did 2 things right

1. You made sure that next time he drinks at night and walks the

street he wont call you to pick him up.

2. He will not put you in a moral dilemma as to tell his parents or

not.

I guess you will have less headache from his part.

Its like if he wants to drink......its ok ....but at least dont throw up in my (your) pockets.....

Gypsy to u it is punishing, for me its saving his butt from a bigger damage.

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Most certainly better then driving home. How else would you have suggested he got home?

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Trying to understand thexonic why you think it's your job to be your friends conscience and why you feel the need to punish him. All I can think is that you were morally offended by his actions.

Gypsy yea sure walking home is smart when ur drunk right??? soo much that u dont even know the way to ur house?? Quite interesting, I'm sure u talk from ur own experience.

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Everyone's right and everyone's wrong, it just the matter of where u stand. Gypsy crticizing is one thing, but u r insulting me and I dont know why darude didn't say anything to u on this, but when i do something like that he is always angry at me.

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don't worry you did what you thought was right it's one of those situations were you damned if you do and your damned if you don't. If you hadn't told his parents then sure he would still be your friend but if you hadn't and something happened to him and they found out you knew they would blame you for not telling them. Live well as your consious is clear and thats the main thing as in the end we all die alone.

and gypsy he said he went to parties with him he didn't say he went to parties and drank with him. i have a few friends that go to parties and don't drink.

So you'll let him drink at parties with you? Then I'm sorry I don't see why you tattled on him? Because he was being smart and walking home, rather then driving? As for walking down the middle of the road, while it was very nice of you to pick him up and drive him home, I still don't see why you told his parents, did you tell them he's been drunk with you before?

Gypsy ur point is senesless, cuz drinking underage is one thing I go to parties with him, he drinks and he drinks when his parents are around... i dont care, but when u drink and walk on the frickin street at 3 am in the morning... it deos become a big deal and what r u calling me an islamic fanatic for?, u dont even know a little bit of me. Its quite obvious that u think i am some random extremist islamist...

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FYI - I don't care about trust . I will betray my wife's trust at any given slight oportunity :)

who said he was over 18? he is 17.

Lipstick how important is trust to u? would u keep ur parents trust or betray them and go behind their backs and do stupid things? is that how important trust is to u ?

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Not petty at all, if thexonic is so concerned about his life he should do everything to stop him from hurting himself.

Anyway this is all a moot point now, thexonic has lost his friend. He must deal with the consequences of his actions.

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Of course thexonic shouldn't tell his parents that his j-walking thats just petty and it suprises me that you would stoop too such a petty example. The fact is he wasn't just j - walking (and last time i checked it is an offence here to cross the road in a place not designated as a public crossing as it is in many other countries) he was drunk doing something stupid such as walking in the middle of a street and i think it safe to say walking in the middle of the street here even when not drunk is a pretty dumb thing to do. Wjile it is your opinion that the cops wouldn't do anything to him about the drinking if he was being served alcohol by a lisenced establishment then they would no doubt do something about that.

I see what u mean n u r rite in a way. But I thought this would protect him. I knew it was an extreme measure. For me I dont think I back stabbed him, cuz if it was my son and someone told me about him, I would call him a true friend but at the same time as a parent I wont take extreme action towards him.

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too bad ur behaviour seems to upset a lot of people. if u are quoting "mahatma gandhi" pls spell his name right.

I'm saying either/or Eco. Either way neither the parents or the child would be deported.

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The police would just drop the kid off at his parents doorstep and expect his parents to deal with it

He could get hit any day crossing the road! Does that mean thexonic should tell his parents that he's j-walking?

All that's happened now is that the kid will probably get grounded and then go out and drink again, but this time he won't call thexonic for a ride home or anyone else. So what's the benefit of what's thexonic's done? All he's done is lost a friend, possibly many friends.

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I saw my friend drunk and in the middle of the road, since he was dear to me I never thought of interfering in his personal life

The kid is picked up, possibly brought to the station and the parents are called and it is dealt with. For the most part the belief of the cops here is that with underage children discipline is the parents job. Believe me I know of people who have actually called the cops and told them that a child was in position of drugs and the cops said it is the parents job to discipline the child.

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As far as I am aware thats true although they do drop you off either to a nice rat infested cell or to the deportation lounge at the airport.

He was in the middle of the road! that puts his life at risk as well as any motorist. What If a motorist had to swerve to avoid him and ran into another car or worse by avoiding him they miss seeing the person crossing the road? It didn't happen but the fact is it could have. Would he still exept the resposibility of his actions?

As far as I know its only pick up service

How is his life at risk? His life is no more at risk then it is everytime he gets behind the wheel of a car, is thexonic going to stop him from driving to? The kid got drunk and walked home, he was not a threat to himself or anyone else.

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Not even if there life was in danger? or it puts you at risk? sorry but my friends life would come first and no true friend would put you at risk, no matter how old they are.

I am not commenting on how things are done, more on how the response from people on this forum is varied because we all have different experiences. Drinking here is a privilege, I agree with that.

But as the title of this forum says..it is indeed the friend's life which is more important. The trust and other hell moral things can be taken care of afterwards.....

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Regardless of the rules of the country a true friend would not tattle.

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We are not talking about the UK, Australia or any other country were underage drinking is normal almost exepted we are talking about a country were drinking to a point for any expat is a privalige (for want of a better term).

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it probably would have gone much smoother had you told your friend HE had to tell his parents and that you'd be expecting a call from them to verify that he did...What happened is that you overstepped the boundaries a bit by talking to his parents without talking to him first and telling him you WOULD talk if he didn't.

Also...it was quite unfair of his parents to make you their spy by asking you to watch out and tattle on him. That's THEIR job as parents. At his age, they should know where he is, especially that late at night.

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when he comes in. He's a captain in the Qatari police force. but I think it would truly depend on the situation. But given the fact that he was walking in the middle of the road and drinking underage and not a local, I would hazard a guess that the situation if the cops had picked him up wouldn't be as pleasant as just dropping him home. not to mention the fact if he was drinking at a licenced establishment then it could bring the whole liquor laws here under scrutiny.

I agree with Gypsy. Apart from the deportation aspect, in many cultures it would be considered his right to drink or not as he liked. I am not saying that this is my opinion, just fact. I have given up trying to describe my old life to some people here, as a school nurse I had to respect the confidentiality of all pupils, even if they were 15 and wanted contraception or had a bad hangover. Only in extreme circumstances would a parent be informed, for example if the drinking was a disciplinary matter. Also, in the UK at boarding schools, the sixth formers, when they are 18 are not only allowed to drink alcohol but most schools have a social centre with a bar. I am not for one minute asking anyone to agree with this but am simply trying to point out that different things shock different cultures. How the parents dealt with it would be the question I would ask. Was he punished? If so, how?

That said, the above is my experience in a professional capacity. If thexonic thought he was doing the decent thing then fair enough. But, as the adult in this thing he should appreciate that the kid would not welcome interferance.

Man u did the right thing, don't feel sorry, for now u did what u can, and please don't give up on him, the same thing happened to a friend, and he did nothing to help, the result was 10 years in prison.

Exactly - I want to know the legal situation in Qatar about this before I say what I would do.

I know the cops do the same thing in Qatar.

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You sure the cops would do the same in Qatar? Well, what the Qatari law says in this case?

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Tigasin - Scarlett is planning a Mass Drinking QL night on Thursday. Advance info for you :)

Ramada won't allow SuperXonic's friend for that :(

What if not "squealing" on a mate means that it can get you in trouble too. I think some people have a deluded sense of loyalty when it comes to what they would do for a mate.

I think Thexonic mentioned earlier that he was 17, not 18-25!

Personally, I think that makes a big difference! (as I'm from the UK and the legal age to drink by yourself is 18)

With the age difference between you Guys, you shouldn't really try to be his close "friend" as he obviously hasn't matured enough to take responsibily for his own actions! I personally think at your age and his age, what you did was right, but shouldn't expect to remain friends.

At least not until he grows up a little!

Also, I wouldn't like you as my friend if you did that! LOL

If the guy is 17 then his parents wouldn't be kicked out for him getting drunk. The police would just drop the kid off at his parents doorstep and expect his parents to deal with it.

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Well - interesting morale dilemma here...

if the parents' work visa/status are in jeapoardy I would be worried about what to do...

however if they weren't I would NEVER squeal on a mate... never.

My pride my honour my integrity GONE. And being pissed up? So what....I am sure actually that stumbling round a bit drunk is far less dangerous to the general public than the regular driving practices here never mind the post-football match driving.

Can someone clafrify the Qatar legal situation here?

What you did was what you felt was the right thing to do. I think some people are missing the point that you have already spoken to him and let it go once but this time you felt you couldn't. It takes a bigger person to do this. To everyone out there who doesn't think so I ask you this "how many times have you read in the media about young lives lost because of stupid idiotic reasons?" then how any of you have asked the question where were the parents while this was going on? thexonic only did what he thought was right, at least if this boy gets himself killed, then it wont be from thexonic,s lack of trying to help. Yes i do remember what its like to be a teenager infact I was prop one of the worst.

I read somewhere that he is 17? Certainly not a legal age to drink...

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People the kid (if you can call someone between 18 and 25 a kid) got drunk, he didn't go on a murder rampage. Jeez.

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u did the right thing coz u had already warned him once.....his parents need to know....so that they can stop him..from doing it again.

you did right. he was lucky he didnt end up in jail.

I will call you or pm you.

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about

Ummm....Thursday? Careful though, I might walk home in the middle of the street :P don't turn me in.

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When are we going to meet up so that you can drink me under the table as per normal???

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about

Tell me about it!

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Gypsy - luckily you and TheXonic didn't go the same school :)

If a "friend" of mine ever did that I would never have spoken to them again, and more then likely neither would any of our mutual friends. In fact I would say that person would never be spoken to again. Doha's too small to be burning bridges.

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what's wrong with Drinking ???????????????????

He most certainly is imposing his morals. His friend was hurting no one by his actions, yet thexonic, for whatever reasons, decided to have him punished.

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That wasn't imposing his morals, if it was, he would have done it the first time. He was showing concern.

Now thexonic, ask for an apology, explain your story and tell him he is important to you as a friend. If your friend doesn't appreciate what you did then it's not worth the guilt.

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for reporting to the parent, as a parent I would be grateful if my son's friend reported such thing to me, just imagine a mere 17 years getting drunk and wandering around in the wee hours of the night. Which parent would accept that of their son and worst still if he is caught there will be more trouble for the parents as well.

Anyway as a friend you should give him a warning that you are going to report to his parents if did it again, at least give him ample time to change before reporting to his parent. Hence he wont feel betrayed by you. Well if you think you have done your duty as a friend and have his interest at heart, then keep it that way, maybe one day he will come to his sense or never. Thats up him and you for your part just take it as a lesson about friendship.

He was walking drunk in the middle of the street, he couldve been killed? As a friend i would be concerned too..Drinking and having fun is one thing but hes endangering his life....

I do know that, there are plenty of places where you can see them do it. And I'm not being harsh at all, thexonic professes to be between the ages of 18 and 25 he's not a child, he's an adult and he should behave like one. Tattling like a two year old on your "friend" is not behaving like an adult.

He shouldn't be imposing his morals on his friend.

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Shut up!

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Not really

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If if he was my son than I woould have thanked God. Your friend will

be on straight path one day and he will be proud of you. This is not spying but preventing further damage.

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C'mon now, you don't know that for certain. Give thexonic a break, he's young too, he just did what he thought was right.

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jinkz, I know perfectly well that the legal drinking age is 21, my point is however, that thexonic overreacted. Many children drink here underage, and I don't see their friends ratting them out.

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You're not in Canada, you're in Qatar. For someone who works for information service, you don't seem to know much about this country's law? He got lucky twice. If the kid was caught by the authorities, being underaged that he is he would have been in big trouble.

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@swissgirl,

yeah you're right, but as ive said, true friends doesnt come in good packages.. hard to know the true meaning of being a true friend.

and the issue is not really about Drinking.. its about being Irresponsible... i mean they can drink, yeah nobody can stop him, but drink responsibly and sober enough to be sane enough to go home properly.

you can be the best friend by either being a good example, or by talking to him, but not by tolerating his irresponsibility. you are just fuelling it, and in the end, it will appear like you have been a bad influence instead.

and for thexonic, perhaps, he just thought of the best way, his friend will learn his lesson. he knows his friend will listen to him on one ear but will just let it out the other ear.

he just did what he thought was most effective....

theres an old saying: "if you jump off a cliff, friends will support you, true friends will stop you, but people who loves you will jump with you".......

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Trust is a mutal feeling...

it will be a Mom and daughter team

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poor guys then against that womanpower

no chance for you

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father and son united with their drinking habilities and to fight against thier common enemy MOM :)

Frankly I wonder if he did it because he was truly worried about his friend or out of some absurd sense of offended morals. After all thexonic has professed to being quite Islamic before.

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Xonic's on a roll today with Friendship tips, pregnancy tips, diet tips, Nationality issues ... :P

whats next .... I can only imagine ??!

Trust is very important to me.

lol

father and son united with their drinking habilities

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Guys he's drank twice, and he's between the ages of 18 and 25, which means that in most countries he would be legal drinking age anyway. Frankly I think thexonic is overreacting and sold out his friend for no reason.

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This reminds me of when i was a teenager and i hated my parents for setting limits and preventing me from doing what was wrong, I used to hate them for doing that but know i know why and I appreciate them being "mean...

A true friend will do what you did, he will appreciate what you did at some stage....

if he is your friend he will listen to you ... you can remind him once, twice ... maybe once more. After that (if i were you) i would just say 'bugger off'.

he will always find a way to drink. I will not say anything to his parents either though ... If he never listen to you means he never take your friendship seriously.

Just my opinion ...

Swissgirl39 - If I had a Son of that age, I am sure he will be drinking with me together at my house :)

he will lose trust in all specially friends.

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if someone wants to drink nobody and nothing can stopp him

sad but true

he always will find a way...

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The guy was just doing what most kids his age do, it wasn't like he was robbing banks or shooting heroin. If you wanted to be a true friend, you would have told him from now on call me when you need a lift before you start walking home, NOT sold him out to his parents for a silly reason.

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thexonic-kun!....

very nice example to show what a true friend is. there is a saying that true friends are hard to find.. but thats because they dont come in good and attractive packages.

true friends are there around us, if only we know how to identify who is true and who are not.

For your friend you might not be his friend anymore, and he will say you are not a true friend, but what you did is what a true friend should do... and you've been a true friend by doing that! by being concerned oh his welfare and well being.

Soon he will thank you for that!

honto ni tomodachi ka! (you really are a friend!)

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and if it was my son i would go and tell him how trustful friends you got boy. go ahead you are going down boy

oh well will see that as per OUR agreement 2020.

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If it was my son, it would be nice to know I have spies among his "friends" but I wouldn't call them his friends.

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if my son was in that situation i would be very happy to know he is having some real and trustful friends which are taking care of him.

sometimes parents should not know all.

at least they sleep better that way.

lol

but ok you did it that way and i hope for you everything will be fine at the end.i think he needs some time yet to realize and analize the whole situation

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him a friend

then you talk about a trust in friend.

then you go to his parents too.

na na doesnt make a sense here.

YOU ARE HIS FRIEND RIGHT LET HIM ENJOY

BEING A FRIEND YOU NEED TO WATCH HIS BACK WHILE HE ENJOYS HIMSELF.

you should have said.

i caught a boy

took him to his mom

reported him to his parents

that looks ok because then you are not his friend and there is no question of trust JUST STRANGERS.

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I'd prefer to a have a friend who wouldn't tattle on me when he thinks I've made a dumb mistake. Personally not only would I never speak to you again, but I doubt any of your other friends will ever really trust you again either.

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Sometimes such sacrifices r to be made, if I wouldnt have taken this step, he would have done it again and who knows may be even got caught and went to prison. It is sad that he doesn't talk to me, but I am not guilty of what I did. I mean what if your son was in his place? would u rather know what ur son did and take some action against it or just let it go?

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feel pitty on you now.

seems like you are the bad guy here.

Buy 1 bottle of whisky invite him for a drink. he will be your best buddy by the time the bottle was finished by you two:)

Clarification... what made u think that?

Just cuz his parents wont allow him to do anything wrong and stupid in future, u call me a backstabber? or it would have been better if he went in the prison or jeopardise his family name and be the reason of embarrassment to his parents? which one would u prefer?

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yet you are the good son in his parents eyes but the bad one in your friends eyes.

hmmmmmmmmmm

still i would be on my friends part in such a situation

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You aren't a friend, you're a dirty backstabbing squealer. If I were him I'd be happy to be rid of you.

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THexonic cares more for parents because he wants his friend to be with him in Doha. If parents are deported, the Son has to go the same way then, as he is minor.....

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As you said, he is underage, I think you did the right thing by telling his parents. When he is matured enough to deal with this he will understand the real situation.

Swissy, I care about them cuz they like me and I respect them alot and I like them. They treat me like a family member and they trust me.

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anyone can tell what they want to say here, im not that kind of sensitive esp. in this matter

 "Be of good courage and HE shall strengthen thine heart..."

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Darude, I am not sure about the rule, I was taking extreme measure in looking out for him. There might be a possibility. They could get in trouble if not deported.

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he can do whatever he wants.

was in the same situation before with my stepsis. hated her for that.

its a free wprld can do whatever we want, now if we get in trouble we should not blame anyone else.

i think your friend will not be in this situation if he knows the limitations. sometimes we got so drunk and never notice the time because we enjoying the party. maybe that is what happened to your friend thexonic.

if you think you cant bit him join him.. hehehe

 so ask him why he doesn't want to talk to you, consider your friendship

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what ur saying is right but parents talking to them is difftrent than a friend....if parents know what wrong he is doing they can guide him....

he might listen to his parents as ur son did and Masha Allaha as u said he is doing good....

Kids do some stupid things at this age and won't listen to anybody

but parents know their kids more than anybody so they can help him best

This was my point.....

Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....

but still am not perfect

lol

(sorry for that joke thex,but i couldnt resist)

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Do you all know the consequences of Law here for underage drinking and hanging out in a public place. You better ask your company lawyer :(

 who told you that his parents will get deported.

wana come with me to court for clarifications? or should i call some lawyers from around to join us next time,

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Its not only him who'd get in trouble, his parents would be deported too, for not taking a responsibility of their kids. The laws are very strict for under aged drinking as it is.

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I think the only good deed you did was to drop him home !

Dont think of the world and correcting it ways..let ppl realise their own mistakes ..coz every one is damn well sure of what he or she is doing and pretty well aware of the consequences too ..

Incase you thought telling his parents was a good idea .. it can go both ways ..you take credit from the parents and loose a friend too ..

have fun and what were you doing at 3 am in the morning by the way ??

let him do what he want to do.

if he will be in trouble thats his problem besides, everyone of us have own responsibility to look after ourselves.

you shouldn't have told his parents, eh.. you should have talk to him first.

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Darude is it even trust when ur friend puts not only his but even his family's life on the line two times? the frist time I did talk to him and i explained to more than once. But this time it was beyond the limits.

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 is a friend sometimes friends do some mistakes but it doesn't mean that he/she is not your friend at all...

true friends are helping each other to overcome their own weaknesses...

"Be of good courage and HE shall strengthen thine heart..."

in that case you are right due to the legel system here :)

It takes only a phone call from somebody to the Police for him get in to real trouble here:(

well u see charan, in your case it would be useless. Cuz ur a smart man.

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 i am not a backstabber. i wouldnt go to his parents.

i would have dealt with him myself.Thats trust.

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I would shoot you to Death if you have done that to me :)

he's 17

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Darude so there u go, I care about him and his family too, so i saved him. Now if its hard for him to understand that then I cant go and kill myself in front of him to convince him right?

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What is the legal limit of Drinking 21 years :)

If he is older than 21 you have no right to pork your fingers in his own affairs

I remember I had gone through this kinda situation in past. Really, what does 'loyalty' mean? When you know that your dearest friend might face problem due to his actions, is it ok to warn him?..is this a loyalty? Or you just be on his side in any f****** situation...is this a loyalty? Well, I've chosen to warn him and faced the obvious......I'd lost my love!!!! Stupid teenage indeed!!!!

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am having also a teenager son.ok he is 21 yet.but i know about what i am talking.we had some very hard times with him but yet everything is alright.he got a good job next to his studies and i am very proud of him.but he had to face and go through some big troubles bevore.life learned him alot in a short time.we cant protect the kids from everything.they learn also alot from bad experiences.

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Fair enough Xonic.. you tried and he puts the parents' life on the line... you did the right thing. I didn't now the circumstances...if you hadn't warned him then I would call it back stabbing - if you have then he just has to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions.

You had no choice... leave him alone - some time to think about not being a selish brat and growing up.

just give space at the moment.. he would realize eventually what you did to him (and it is the right thing to do as he wasn't responsible to any of his actions that morning)... hope everything works out fine with you and your friend soon.. :)

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swissgirl39....

i don't agree with you coz a teenager will never agree to what you say,

if it was once its ok but more than once hard steps should be taken....

coz to enjoy some silly fun time now he might ruin his entire life or God forbid loose it too....

Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....

 a friendship if i wont care about my friend.

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I just wrote in my previous comment (referring to oryx) that I talked to him once when he did this thing before.

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Darude, I never pretended and i certainly didnt back stab him. How is saving his life back stabbing him?

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 my foes more than a backstabber pretending to be my friend.

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you did the right thing thexonic.....

this will save him from going on the wrong path

he will never understand what u did for him was right

but he will relise it when he is mature enough....

and probaly do the same to others....

Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....

you could help him wihtout talking to his parents.i understand his reaction,he trusted you but the first thing you did was talking to his parents instead talking to himself.

na i would not make it that way.

i would talk to my friend under 4 eyes,face to face and explain how false it was in my eyes.

but i think he already knows that he made a fault.

Mila I hope so

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Oryx honey, I did that once, this is the second time he did such stupid thing. If it would get him in trouble, I wouldnt really go that far. But his parents can even get deported cuz of his actions.

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dont give up on him. he is lost at the moment. please stay calm with him. doesn't matter what he said now someday when he used his head properly he will come to you and say thank you.

so dont worry too much about him.

Sorry xonic if it had been me I would have hated you. Do you fully know the relationship between him and his parents? You should have taken him to one side and had a good brotherly chat over the weekend...and a warning...

'I love you and care for - that is why if I see that again I will call your folks.'

Now he has one less friend to trust.

he will realize 1 day..he will talk to you..he will admit that he a was wrong..

I already tried that, he's acting his age. Teenagers ukh

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Write him an email explaining why you did this.