Hey Qataris, Plz respect the Q.

realsomeone
By realsomeone

I got up at 4:30am, prayed and hit the road to QIC at 5 i arrived, there were about 6 people before me. we wait as the line grow about a 100 ppl showed up about 6:45 am to 7 a crowd of Qataris showed up young, middle aged and old. non of them bothered to get in the line, i was wondering what are they gonna do ? sadly after the office opened at 7 all of them were the first to get numbers as we watched and shouted "HARAM. HARAM".

its not the first time i have witnessed this and it is really uncivilized behaviour, you don't know how painful its for someone to wait 2 hours for a Q and someone over takes him who was after him. This is Haram and unIslamic, you need to crash this pride and arrogance.

By auscharlie• 3 Dec 2008 17:12
auscharlie

bloody FRENCHMAN pushed in yesterday, slapped the frog back to the end of the Q

By haashim• 3 Dec 2008 16:57
haashim

don t get me wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i toooo have experianced situations of that kind, lets assume if u r boss or friend is coming instead of qatari , what would u do?

To my understanding i feel that they r not us to do what we feel.

Please my friend u got to be more flexible in u r thoughts, i m sure then u ll have peace of mind.

By ONEmakikomoto• 3 Dec 2008 16:28
ONEmakikomoto

you're not askin "why", right?

By bleu• 3 Dec 2008 15:42
bleu

I keep seeing these generalizations about Qataris, many of the expats seem to think we're all:

Uneducated.

Can't read or write.

Arrogant.

Stupid.

I'm not saying anything about driving, it's generally true, and I'm one of the offenders.

By nadt• 3 Dec 2008 15:21
nadt

tijoz, gee thats a big assumption, 'they cant read"...get over yourself.

why blame the que jumpers(althoguh its very rude), as bahrainee said, if someone is willing to let you que jump and serve you before others, im sure a lot of people wont say no. Certainly the people who are serving at the banks, shops or wherever have a responsibility to say, sorry you have to get in the que and wait for your turn.

By sohbetocean• 3 Dec 2008 15:14
sohbetocean

treatment. Well, with the exception of having the right to elect officials.

Otherwise, there is no reason that someone who is a native citizen of a certain place should receive a higher salary, extra vacation allowances, or special treatment in lines, etc.

Actually, I think that it ultimately holds back the progress of the nation. Afterall, what is the incentive to work hard for your success if you are being given these things on a silver platter (well, GOLD platter)??

I am not talking about all Qataris but there is definitely a general trend. And, unfortunately, it is not uncommon for people to receive special treatment anywhere in the world because of their financial status.

However, that should not pervade every aspect of life to the point that it infringes upon the rights of others.

Ultimately, many people will overstep limits if no one resists. I hope that we don't become so used to these occurences that we accept them as 'aadi' or normal. Speak up! If you don't stand up for yourself, no one else will.

By ONEmakikomoto• 3 Dec 2008 15:01
ONEmakikomoto

jaredboy, watch your mouth...

F****** ALL BAD QATARIS...

...REDUNDANT....:)

CHEERS!

By ONEmakikomoto• 3 Dec 2008 14:53
ONEmakikomoto

are we supposed to JUST get used to it (not only specifically to their practice of disrespecting queues but to their long list of violations to social manners, tell me about their driving skills...) because they are numb and they dont feel the need to change? ...and "this is my country" sign will always be stamped on their thoub and with that you should just keep your mouth shut coz they will tell you that "you (we) weren't forced to come (work) here??? heard and read these lines several times already... but when will they realize that something is wrong with the way that they're acting...

and if many threads have been posted about this (criticism to their habits) why are they not doing anythin about it? are they too numb or do they really feel they're not doin anything wrong amidst the obvious???

if years from now, oil disappears here and they are to find jobs outside their country, they better make sure they are ready to work in Fiji or Kiribati...

By tijoz• 3 Dec 2008 14:23
tijoz

It is common to see this happening but then there is no pointing in putting it up in Qatarliving as they don't know how to read or speak English and it would not reach them at all and so will not appeal so forget it... At least let them have some privilege in their own country...

By Bahrainee• 3 Dec 2008 14:13
Bahrainee

I have noticed this behavior unfortunately. I can understand that being the native of the country you should get some privileges but it is frankly taken for granted.

I was arguing with an expatriate friend of mine the other day and my point and solution is simply "until when will you remain quite" if you see somebody acting so please ask him politely to move back the line but please do not insist if you are afraid that a problem would occur, maybe he wont listen this time but for sure he will be embarrassed and the next time he will think twice. I for one am not afraid to escalate the matter but then again unfortunately I confess that I have the privilege of being a GCC national.

By the way with all due respect to all Qatari’s out there, if you notice I haven’t mentioned Qatari’s but I mean all those who cut the line what ever background, status, gender or wealth.

another thing I noticed here is not just being a Qatari, simply where a thoub gets things done easily and again who is to blame, YOU the complainer because the expatriates here treat those people differently, in other words, the day I wear a thoub I treated differently by the expatriate serving me for no extra reason. I didn’t show up with an angry look, I dint scold anybody and dint treat them bad, simply because I was wearing a thoub I get top of the line treatment from both locals and expatriates, so you expect people not to take advantage of it.

Sorry for the long speech but I hope the message is clear.

By alsboy• 3 Dec 2008 13:48
alsboy

Wots the point other than take one's frustration on this page??? Seriously... do u think de (bad ones) wud change their lifestyle (U gotta b kiddin me)... Dey were brought up that way and there is nothing the common man can do about it. Education is the only door through which discipline can be learnt... without which, u wud still encounter such incidents...

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 13:34
realsomeone

Rami i think you are the real coward behind keyboard blaming people and religion without being able to say infront of them.

I can and say to them about any wrong doings and yes this forum is the perfect place to post your experience and i am sure a lot of Qataris and non Qataris will read and as much as we complain they will try to do better.

now i dont agree with you about what you say about Qataris and other people.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By bleu• 3 Dec 2008 13:19
bleu

I hate it when that happens, I would stand in line and then people (many Qataris and some other nationalities) would jump the queue.

I don't stand in queues anymore, I just send someone else.

By ONEmakikomoto• 3 Dec 2008 13:14
ONEmakikomoto

i wonder how they react to such remarks made to them... here and everywhere...

when will the time come that they will accept the fact that to be considered human you have to meet minimum criteria. ouch! ooopppsss sowweee....

By ONEmakikomoto• 3 Dec 2008 13:06
ONEmakikomoto

dubai??? law very common to all??? LOL x 100

have you seen slave camps there???

By Gladiator1• 3 Dec 2008 12:55
Gladiator1

Dubai is very safe for this issues ........

I have good expeirence from there ........

there LAW is very common for all

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 12:47
anonymous

such action deserved a respectful way or reaction, and it will bring positive result. But if you deal it the same way (disrespectful with disrespectful), do you think it will give good result?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

By abohmaid• 3 Dec 2008 12:46
abohmaid

dont speak in general

those ppl are exception

so u should also proud to be here

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 12:45
anonymous

I just think it's a bit pathetic for someone to log onto a forum aimed at NON-QATARIS to complain about the behavior of Qataris when forming a queue.

If you're too cowardly to face up to the Qataris in person and tell them off for their bad behavior, what on earth makes you think that posting this topic here will make a single bit of difference.

The truth is that Qataris think that all ex-pats are beneath them, and nothing the ex-pats do will ever change this.

It is their country, they will behave how they wish.

Qataris are only Muslim when it comes to taking holidays and leaving the office to go and pray. When it comes to caring for the welfare of others, or treating others are equals, Islam just gets in the way.

By GodFather.• 3 Dec 2008 12:42
GodFather.

Well said KB..Well most of time the I would do the same.. just have to analyise the situation beforehand..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By Keith Brown• 3 Dec 2008 12:38
Keith Brown

Uk Eng, thanks for rebukeing the bad language earlier by the way.

I get jossled , and jumped infront of all the time . Ive lived in the Middle East for 15 years and also asia,its normal behaviour for a lot of people to do like that. However,,,,I dont accept it , nor do I get angry. If somebody is pushing into me from behind ,or even actually pushing me by their hands I always turn to them , put on my kindly father face , hold up a hand palm to the offender but never touching and tell them gently "back up", the offender ALWAYS says sorry and maintains a distance . As for somebody plonking Items infront of me when I am patiently waiting ,, I have no problem picking up the items moving them back and again , tell the offender "Im waiting also ".

I know I cant re educate these people ,screaming and shouting will never help . Just try to rise above this and direct your valuable energy to more productive uses.

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 12:31
realsomeone

Rami you are out of touch with the topic..

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By GodFather.• 3 Dec 2008 12:29
Rating: 3/5
GodFather.

They can do what they like.. It's there country.. We just have to accept it.. They will be the one who will suffer.. they can import flash cars, build high towers etc etc.. But they can not import politeness.. Thats there problem.. So RS just chill man..

Canary like your Turkish Experience.. Well done me girl..Proud to be British...lol

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 12:25
anonymous

RS... get a life!

You are posting here to say that Qataris don't queque and *that's* what makes them bad Muslims?

Not that the economy is built on the back of labourers whose rights are abused? (correction: they have no rights)

Not that the Qatari government makes no effort to enforce laws like the rent law, the traffic law etc?

Or that domestic workers are frequently abused?

Or that there is a thriving prostitution market in Doha?

Or liquor is available to Qataris in bars, hotels and other places?

No no... it's because they don't respect the Q.

Right.

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 12:20
anonymous

I expect satisfaction. I think it is the height of bad manners and I do say something to anyone who jumps the queue anywhere and whoever it is. I am not afraid of confrontation as it is an absolute sign of disrespect towards fellow human beings but this is not restricted to one race as we all well know so we have to consider this too.

By abohmaid• 3 Dec 2008 12:16
abohmaid

its not only a part

its the most important part

hi emad

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 12:15
anonymous

Queue jumping...

Never experienced queue jumping in fastfood joints like KFC, Hardees or Mc Donalds etc.....lol

By GetMe_Ifucan• 3 Dec 2008 12:12
GetMe_Ifucan

Is this kind of attitude acceptable in QL? As like Jaredboy did?

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 12:03
realsomeone

PITSTOP if you have read some of my posts earlier. i always involve religion in my posts OK it doesnt mean its being dragged it means its part of life for me... and things must be referenced to it. According to me. you have your opinion of course.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By 3.Emad• 3 Dec 2008 12:02
3.Emad

but do u expect a qatari to get a red face if a similar situation took place ??????? maybe a red-ANGRY face :P

,

Emad =>

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:59
anonymous

queue? My migraine is getting worse!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:57
anonymous

I got what I wanted and so did all the others I am glad to say and the lady got a red face needless to say.

By 3.Emad• 3 Dec 2008 11:55
3.Emad

well.. turkish people are sweet ;P

except for that rich lady..

,

Emad =>

By Arien• 3 Dec 2008 11:50
Arien

PITS.. You will find it if you live looking for it .. and then comment and bring in more in to it instead of ignoring it.

There will be Q breakers allover the world.. we are talkin about a common scenario we find in Qatar, and they justify it.

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Every society is judged by how

it treats it's least fortunates.

By PITSTOP• 3 Dec 2008 11:41
PITSTOP

I'm quoting from the past notes:

Arien said PITSTOP.. who did talk about ...

PITSTOP.. who did talk about religion here??..why do you wana drag it here too?..

Nationality.. Yes we are talkin about Qataris jumping queue, and they do as per many who have experienced it above.

If you read the post well you would read the following:

"This is Haram and unIslamic, you need to crash this pride and arrogance."

When Haram and unIslamic and Pride and Arrogance, you know Religion is being talked about. And as I said, it isn't just the Qatari locals. Everyone does it - there is no nationality hung from such behavior.

Simple.

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:41
anonymous

Where did you crawl out from, seems to me you are a very low person - living as a guest in this country earning money to send to your country that you can't earn there.

You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 11:39
realsomeone

that is an arrogant language...what is your problem?

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:38
anonymous

it is now very normal for us they behaved like they are the king of the country so just chill they really dont know the meaning of haram.

By GodFather.• 3 Dec 2008 11:38
GodFather.

Excuse me Jaredboy.. mind your language..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:36
anonymous

Fuck All bad qataris!

By abohmaid• 3 Dec 2008 11:32
abohmaid

a lot dont know the meaning of haram

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:31
anonymous

I was in Turkey for New Year a few years ago, I didn't speak very much Turkish at the time, however, many people were standing in the queue waiting to have New Year presents wrapped.

Lo and behold one very well made up lady fur coat etc. etc. comes to the front (we were about 20 in the queue) and proceeds to lay down her goods and demands to have them wrapped immediately.

With my very little Turkish I went up the the wrapping desk and asked the employees there (in Turkish) why can one woman come to the front and get her things wrapped when there are twenty others waiting patiently in the queue. They were quite astounded that anyone dare question this - the result was that all in the queue understood me and so did the workers - it worked they sent her packing to the back of the queue.

There were no numbers but enough protesters in the end.

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 11:26
realsomeone

abohmaid thanks bro...but we shouted..haram..haram lol no one listened.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By abohmaid• 3 Dec 2008 11:25
abohmaid

u r right

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 11:21
realsomeone

logic probably you misunderstood me, i am talking about a way of life ... when will you guys understand me that when i talk about something i look from my Islamic perspective.

what i said here is Haram which means "forbidden" to have superiority over others.

now if a young man allows an old man to go first in a Q that is Islamic and a good behaviour but i am not talking about that in this topic. i am talking about a people of different ages all preaching a Q...while people of all ages wait for hours.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By abohmaid• 3 Dec 2008 11:18
abohmaid

i am realy sorry for that

but i think if ur group started a problem

they were back to the line

By logicsays• 3 Dec 2008 11:16
logicsays

Why do we involve religion in interpreting certain behaviour ... it is purely an act of civilisation nothing to do with any religion ..

Countries that have segregated religion from mangement of day to day life have succeeded in adopting civilised behaviour by science, by management science which has nothing to do with religion ...

I can understand that a Q is a matter of system management then if a young man allows an old one to go in Q before him this could be described as civilised act and might be related to religious values ...

"The best way to predict the future is to create it".

By paengski_21• 3 Dec 2008 11:12
paengski_21

This is very common here in Qatar

Not Only Qataris are doing this but some nationalities also, based on my own experience-i dont want to be one sided here but for my 3 years stayed here in Doha I've experienced a lot of rude things, so let me go back yto the topic, not only Qatari's but also some indian's on my experienced most of them, it seems that they are always in a hurry when they are on the line they will move forward and move untill they hit the person on their back and front.some of them just but in on the line.

Just last night i have experienced one of this common scence in Doha,

i was on the line in Carefour villagio to pay my groceries to the cashier, somebody from nowhere came and but in on the line, he has i think 3 or four items with him, so i let it pass, then one man came and gave his 3 items to this man.

I told them that they should ask first the person on their back if it okay for them to pay first since they only have 3 or four items, they unswered me "no we did not but in on the line" i was very angry when this indian guy answered me. i dont know if they dont see me waiting on the line or they just a bunch of morons.

Raffy

By 3.Emad• 3 Dec 2008 11:09
3.Emad

ok thats gd.. but wat if there were no numbers (i.e.: Supermarket, Bakery)

i think they gotta understand not to cut in lines .. HOW??

,

Emad =>

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:07
anonymous

The solution would be to have the numbers at the entrance and everyone as they arrive take a number so that way there would be no chance for others to jump the queue.

By Arien• 3 Dec 2008 11:06
Arien

PITSTOP.. who did talk about religion here??..why do you wana drag it here too?..

Nationality.. Yes we are talkin about Qataris jumping queue, and they do as per many who have experienced it above.

______________________________________________

Every society is judged by how

it treats it's least fortunates.

By owen• 3 Dec 2008 11:04
owen

shows only how educated they are.. (NOT ALL ok.. :) )

[img_assist|nid=12867|link=none|align=left|width=|height=0]Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 11:04
anonymous

it is a reality of life, specially here in Qatar. Don't worry, sooner or later they will learned their lesson!! Don't ruin you stay here by these kind of misdeeds!!!! You'll just grow old fast!!!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

By mr-design• 3 Dec 2008 11:04
mr-design

Don`t Love me be my friend

By PITSTOP• 3 Dec 2008 11:00
PITSTOP

Religion and Nationality have nothing to do with it. People from all nationalities cut the Q when I am in line. Not just in offices and governmental sectors, even in cars.

Go generalize please.

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 10:59
realsomeone

mr1968 unfortunately i am not talking about individual, what saddened me is not an individual behaviour but a crowd of people...about 10 ore more...while all the expatriates who waited for hours watched they have been allowed to get first numbers and non of them came early but just 10 or 15 minutes before the opening. while we came about 2 hours before the opening.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By Arien• 3 Dec 2008 10:59
Arien

Emad.. solution??.. Educate them.. dumb them in the schools.

I havent experienced it so far, I am afraid I wont be able to stand it.

______________________________________________

Every society is judged by how

it treats it's least fortunates.

By Rizks• 3 Dec 2008 10:54
Rizks

Pajju...........

Wat so serious discussion here ?

Anyways, aana aasif - as only Adults allowed here and me only kid so me jump to some cartoon tread ...:(

By mr1968• 3 Dec 2008 10:49
mr1968

It depends on the individual. I have witnessed this inappropriate conduct in US also. Although, 99% people follow the queue, but there is always one person who thinks that he or she is too good to wait in line. The difference there is that there are enough people to complain and take a stand to where this individual gets discouraged and correct his demeanor.

By Pajju• 3 Dec 2008 10:44
Pajju

u idiot dunt hijack , its s serious thread, adults only so out out

By GodFather.• 3 Dec 2008 10:44
GodFather.

Sorry for your experience RS.. Well what can we do?

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By Rizks• 3 Dec 2008 10:43
Rizks

LoL dmightysolomon...

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 10:41
anonymous

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 10:40
Rating: 2/5
realsomeone

I remember one somali guy was talking about Qataris, he said they are good people , they are open handed and pay good ... but they are miser in one place...THE ROAD...

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By Rizks• 3 Dec 2008 10:40
Rizks

Pajju..............

Wat about Mallus ?? :)

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 10:38
anonymous

A few years ago I went to London as my father was ill and I was more or less forced to go to Britain, now from my younger days I can tell you everyone stood in a queue one behind the other and when a bus was full quietly waited for the next. Even in the post office or the bank it was very civil and everyone moved forward one after the other.

I tried to board a bus in London where there were more foreigners waiting in the queue than there were Brits and I can tell you it was a free for all trying to get into the bus never mind taking a seat.

Thobes don't mean it is all Qataris although they are not patient either and don't like to wait but who does??

It is a question of all foreigners and locals making a proper effort to queue and the whole business of waiting would be finished in half the time

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 10:38
realsomeone

Of course i am not referring to all Qataris, i am referring those i have seen and most most of them didnt bothered to Q, even some of them left the Q and entered before everyone this isnt good.

Pajju that gentleman was really nice.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By 3.Emad• 3 Dec 2008 10:38
3.Emad

realsomeone.. plz dont get me wrong..

u said they have this super superiority.. and i think ur right.. and because of that they are going to take it as an offense.. they dont just cut in queues u know .. their driving is another issue and there are many other issues..

my point is how can we deliver a message to them in a way they can understand AND respond ?? :S

"please" is also something they dont understand..

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Emad =>

By Andrews• 3 Dec 2008 10:35
Andrews

Realsomeone..When I face similar situation to avoid Hypertension I used to believe that they are sick..

" Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated"

....G.B. Shaw

By Pajju• 3 Dec 2008 10:35
Rating: 4/5
Pajju

well , oneday i went to Qtel for bill payment and i took slip its shows 12 people r waiting and i went to waiting area, the time one qatari gentle man came inside , suddenly one man ( who s sitting on cash counter ) come from inside and asked for bill and money , he said no i will wait as per Q , a nice gentle man , so we cannot tell abt all Qatari....

By hisashi_mitsui• 3 Dec 2008 10:32
hisashi_mitsui

bizzarro world man..bizzarro word....

"The grass is always greener...over the Septic Tank"

By anonymous• 3 Dec 2008 10:32
anonymous

Try a buffet...its bad i tell you.

By mjamille28• 3 Dec 2008 10:31
Rating: 2/5
mjamille28

it's not only the Qataris, other nationalities do as well... i just had an incident this morning at a convenience store at a petrol station,.. was about to pay for my stuff when this guy walks in front of me and puts his stuff on the till.. i gave him a "move to the back of the cue or you will get it big-time" look... he eventually backed off....

By realsomeone• 3 Dec 2008 10:30
realsomeone

Emad how do you define offensive and order like? I said please ? what is the meaning of please??

i am complaining about Qatari behaviour because they are the only people in this country i have witnessed not respecting the Q, see we are all humans no one is above the other. I tell them its in appropriate, and its HARAM if you are a Muslim. Superiority is HARAM my friend.

Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!

- Jalaluddin al-Rumi

By 3.Emad• 3 Dec 2008 10:27
3.Emad

(i know only the qataris do that)

but hey when u say " Qataris, Plz respect the Q" its going to be abit offensive-like order for them .. so why not state it in a more general form..

talking about the purpose of the thread.. are u only complaining of the qatari behavior?? ..or are u trying to stop such behavior?? the question here is how to make them understand that its INAPPROPRIATE to cut-in queues ?!

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Emad =>

By Gladiator1• 3 Dec 2008 10:25
Rating: 3/5
Gladiator1

its common in all area where this ppl need to come .......

Like Emigration offcie (1st floor signature area)

vechicle service centre .......... etc .......

they don't have repect simply called " superiority complex "

By Colt45• 3 Dec 2008 10:24
Rating: 4/5
Colt45

I know right... and then if you tell them anything, all they will reply is.. "this my country"... yeh you fat head we all know it is your country, but you needa respect the expats who have helped make your country to what it is too... duh!!!

By Rizks• 3 Dec 2008 10:24
Rizks

Nuthin NEw Realsome.....

Get use to it my frnd, the sooner the better ....:(

By mjamille28• 3 Dec 2008 10:11
mjamille28

people jumping Q's,.. what else is new, right? they're hopeless i tell you....

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