Is lust as important as love?

Arien
By Arien

"Lust is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame..." Back in the late 16th century, Shakespeare wrote this sonnet while explaining the ‘then-reprehensible’ act. However, the world of love and love-making seems to have turned topsy-turvy since then. Recently, Hollywood actress Charlize Theron sparked the love vs lust debate saying that passion makes up an integral part of her relationship and she just can’t live without it.

Majority of experts also believe that the greatest relationships are a combination of love and lust. Even scientifically speaking, lust, which is driven by our sex hormones testosterone and oestrogen, force us to try hard and woo the love of our lives.

Do you agree that lust is as important as love? Love surely has a deeper meaning, but isn’t it lust that keeps the flame burning?

TOI debates 02 fEB 10

By a.adversalo• 18 Feb 2010 13:20
a.adversalo

Love + Lust = Happy relationship

By anonymous• 18 Feb 2010 13:17
anonymous

The trick is to keep the Lust buring even after 10 +years of Love

You can be HOT or COLD to me, spare me LUKEWARM!!!!

By anonymous• 18 Feb 2010 13:06
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

again Farhan again!! i love repetition! lol

H

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By anonymous• 17 Feb 2010 18:26
anonymous

call the ghost busters.

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:24
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:24
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:24
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:24
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:23
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By FarhanKhan18743• 17 Feb 2010 18:23
FarhanKhan18743

Fire Still Burns

By anonymous• 17 Feb 2010 17:46
anonymous

and you can't even comprehend my posting? Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion! Look beyond the comment!

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By Victory_278692• 17 Feb 2010 12:34
Victory_278692

personal and private legal affairs at Home...No comments!

Are you staying in Gulf country? then be aware!

By anonymous• 17 Feb 2010 02:03
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

solomon..

What does my nationality have to do with this ?.. I could be anything man, Point is I am not hurting no one ( not raping not molesting not causing any harm ) If me and my partner are into something that makes us happy in the privacy of our home, why would someone object?

Why even call what i am into lust and not personal interest?

H

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By anonymous• 16 Feb 2010 16:04
anonymous

from someone with that kind of profile!

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By Victory_278692• 16 Feb 2010 09:19
Victory_278692

DMS.....his comments was deleted being offensive and against our social, cultural and moral values :)

By marie_2• 16 Feb 2010 00:49
Rating: 4/5
marie_2

Somehow, It plays a role in maintaining a good relationship...

...listen to the sound of silence....

By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 23:43
anonymous

a German belonging to the Lebanese Group, and with all that money you earn, I'm not surprised about your mentality. Go on, make an orgy and be happy!!!!!!!

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By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 23:41
anonymous

the way the pedophiles, rapists and murderers define their actions. Don't ask who we are, ask yourself, who are you?????????????????????????

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By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 15:03
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

dude you people need to realize that everyone SHOULD do what makes them happy in life.

Stop defining things according to what you think is right..No I am not in any industry and I did not say I do that or enjoy doing it, but even if I do, if it makes me happy, who are you guys to say this is bad or immoral.

Not everything revolves around what you and others have been taught!

u know what i mean?

H

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By blablabla• 15 Feb 2010 14:37
blablabla

Tutor1,

Are you in P**n industry? Here we are talking about sensitive people. You people have special rights man. Your love is also special! Just enjoy yourself!!

By anonymous• 15 Feb 2010 00:02
anonymous

foreplay should not be associated with lust! Lust is for people who don't love each other. For strangers who wanted to consume it! It could never be lust between two people in love! Period!

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By Victory_278692• 14 Feb 2010 10:54
Victory_278692

Repeat

By Victory_278692• 14 Feb 2010 10:53
Rating: 2/5
Victory_278692

We can't separate the Two.....

Lusty sex happens very casual and rarely;

while love placed a respect in your heart for your partner and remains forever (I hope so).

Intimacy bring both partner closer and felt loved and even that intimacy takes over by lust many a time.

So can I say that even intimacy plays an important role in Love making process..

Love=Intimacy=Love=Lust=Love again :)

By maurochiado• 12 Feb 2010 12:56
maurochiado

there is time for lust alone, for both, and for love alone..

By anonymous• 11 Feb 2010 16:50
anonymous

even very intimate foreplay if done without love will remain a lust and unless you're just doing it as no emotion or feelings, either party will feel the senselessness of the act!

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By maurochiado• 11 Feb 2010 13:35
maurochiado

ahahah

By blablabla• 11 Feb 2010 13:28
blablabla

I think lust is more important! Lust needs viagra while love needs some sleeping pills...

By Jaryz• 11 Feb 2010 11:58
Rating: 4/5
Jaryz

so how can we differentiate it...

LOVE is like the chocolate cake your eating LUST is the coating of that cake, so you can live/eat with or without it

LOVE is like the special food u eat LUST is the thing that makes it taste special...

So the question is "Is love enuf without lust" or you will live by lust without love"?????

LUST is not actually important as LOVE but you have to balance both to have a happy and contented life with your partner :)

By anonymous• 10 Feb 2010 23:16
anonymous

but I have to agree with you, sex is sex, if you double it, that's thirty-sex! Lol!!!

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By SPEED• 10 Feb 2010 07:31
SPEED

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By asif_khan• 10 Feb 2010 07:31
asif_khan

lust results in watering of ur mouth

and love......................... no clue

By Rizks• 10 Feb 2010 07:16
Rating: 2/5
Rizks

Lust lead to Hair Loss !! :)

Love leads to gather and collect all the fallen hairs and start loving it again...lol

By azilana7037• 10 Feb 2010 06:48
Rating: 3/5
azilana7037

LUST = SEX = ORGASM = FLEETING/TEMPORARY SATISFACTION.

From my perspective (as a WOMAN), I prefer intimacy coz it makes a couple more connected in terms of mental and emotional aspects.

SEX is SEX and it's that...JUST SEX. After the ORGASM or the RELEASE...what comes next? You roll over to the other side and SLEEP? EEEWWWW.

By anonymous• 9 Feb 2010 23:01
anonymous

madness desire that always result to hurting the other party!. You can never practice lust to your love one! IMHO!

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By Victory_278692• 8 Feb 2010 10:36
Victory_278692

I repeat.....

With time.....We get maturity, act more responsibly, respect, understand and accept our desires and natural biological changes.

While lusts are sometimes beyond ones control.....Here one has to show self discipline :)

By svelte_saggi• 8 Feb 2010 10:34
svelte_saggi

vic bhai,i too agree with you.by the time i pass 45 years from now,maybe only love will remain.but i'll be happy that in my heydays,it was different.it's like how a caterpillar(compare it to lust) turns into a beautiful butterfuly (love) :-)

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By Victory_278692• 8 Feb 2010 10:29
Victory_278692

....Lust will be over for oldies......

Only love work even after 45 years from now (if LUV exist at any point of time with your partner)...

check once reach that spot and confirm.

By svelte_saggi• 7 Feb 2010 14:52
Rating: 4/5
svelte_saggi

that's why i said lust should be channelized only and ONLY towards your own partner.if u don't harbour such feelings for ur partner then there is certainly something missing in the relationship.love is just a feeling...a virtual thing.but lust is reality.a relationship devoid od lust is,like i said earlier,a bowl of boiled veggies....good for health but best suited for oldies or for ppl with a troublesome stomach ;-)

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 22:46
anonymous

character. If you have not felt it before, you wouldn't agree with Charize!

Lust is characterize by an extreme desire WITHOUT care or love. Precisely the reason it was called LUST! Love is different, definitely! If you mistake one from the other, then something is wrong with you!

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By Ice Maiden• 4 Feb 2010 21:08
Rating: 3/5
Ice Maiden

Love and lust are two parts of the same equation. The relationship is enriched when they go hand in hand.

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"We live life forward, but understand it backward"

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 20:41
anonymous

ya right...

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 20:15
jpa

very clever Hannah,

Arien, sorry, but you can see who is using foul language.

By Hannah Montana• 4 Feb 2010 20:12
Hannah Montana

i was only joking so you are a real fake. oh god oh god oh god

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 19:56
jpa

Hannah, thanks

WK WP deserves a lot of rusty crowns.

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:52
anonymous

Sorry Arien that your thread got ruined but well you have to accomodate these morons somewhere... Enjoy your online "Love story" jpa... You will get your crown for the Dumbest QLer shortly...

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 19:52
jpa

caught and was deported.

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:47
anonymous

Ok jpa.. you know take the title of the dumbest QLer.. Keep it up son...

**** Aal Izz Well****

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:44
anonymous

Ok let me repeat my question for THE THIRD TIME (SPECIALLY FOR A MORON LIKE YOU).. TRY WHAT??????

Can someone translate my question in tagalog please..

**** Aal Izz Well****

By Hannah Montana• 4 Feb 2010 19:44
Hannah Montana

really nice try

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:40
anonymous

My sorrows????

Sorry to disappoint you but contrary to your desires I live a very happy life..

Tough luck about your online love though.. Nothing happening, is it true???

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 19:39
jpa

again.

r u confused now by your sorrows?

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:38
anonymous

Ok let me repeat my question.. TRY WHAT??????

Can someone translate my question in tagalog please..

**** Aal Izz Well****

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 19:31
anonymous

My sorrows????

Sorry to disappoint you but contrary to your desires I live a very happy life..

Tough luck about your online love though.. Nothing happening, is it true???

**** Aal Izz Well****

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:55
anonymous

dmigtysolomon ..yeah...lol

Thats when sex gets detached from love... maddness...onenight stands...etc...lol

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 18:43
Rating: 4/5
jpa

dms

you are 100% correct.

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:41
anonymous

but lust is inherent to rapist , molesters and pedophiles!

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By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:33
anonymous

One can make love...but...one cant make lust...can you?...

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 18:25
Arien

Veriss... 45 years?? answer waiting at the heavens may be..lol

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 18:19
jpa

r u confused now by your sorrows?

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:18
anonymous

Try what????

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 18:17
Rating: 3/5
jpa

nice try wk.

try again.

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:14
anonymous

while lust is usually for the others!

Love sex is holy while lust sex is not! IMHO.

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By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:14
anonymous

Oh I am content jpa.. I am not the one going around posting love messages to an unknown face on an online forum..

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 18:10
jpa

wk

that's the difference between CONTENTMENT and sorrow.

By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 18:06
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

There is huge difference.. Love exists only in story books while lust is very much real..

**** Aal Izz Well****

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 17:53
jpa

Love NO lust.

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By verisimilitude• 4 Feb 2010 17:28
verisimilitude

just wait maybe another 45 years and you'll know the answer...

By jpa• 4 Feb 2010 17:10
jpa

i've been happily married for nearly twenty years and i don't find any lust during those years.

we are blessed with 5 brilliant kids, all because of LOVE.

lust has nothing to do with a successful family life.

whereas LOVE, entails loyalty, respect, understanding, commitment and of course money.

By dashwoot• 4 Feb 2010 16:43
dashwoot

thats what im talking about...if both of the partners lust over each other, then the true love will grow into both sides....

if any of them has a lack of lust for the other partner...then deep in there is something missing

By Victory_278692• 4 Feb 2010 16:33
Victory_278692

street my friend....give and take!

By dashwoot• 4 Feb 2010 16:31
dashwoot

What if the one you truly love dosnt lust over you!! Would you get the same amount of love in return???

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 14:54
Rating: 3/5
svelte_saggi

....and i plan to follow in ur footsteps,snessy xx :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By snessy• 4 Feb 2010 14:53
snessy

SS, that's exactly what I did ;-)

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 14:50
Rating: 2/5
svelte_saggi

and what if u manage to channelise ur lust ONLY to the one you love??? :-P i'd call that a match made in heaven :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By snessy• 4 Feb 2010 14:49
snessy

Love over lust. If I wanted to I could lust over many, but I only have one true love...

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

By dashwoot• 4 Feb 2010 14:38
dashwoot

ATTRACTION = LUST = LOVE

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 14:05
Arien

FS rofl.. you caught him by his neck(thin one) :)))))

By Victory_278692• 4 Feb 2010 13:54
Rating: 2/5
Victory_278692

Arein, Winn, FS, Smokey.........both goes together initially and later works independently with passing times:)

With time.....We get maturity, act more responsibly, respect, understand and accept our desires and natural biological changes.

While lusts are sometimes beyond ones control.....Here one has to show self discipline :)

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 13:48
Rating: 4/5
svelte_saggi

i can only talk about myself,azam.but like i said,i won't exactly die by living a life eating boiled veggies.they are extremely good for health too.but then life will also be bland and tasteless and lacking excitement.that's all.

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By Formatted Soul• 4 Feb 2010 13:46
Formatted Soul

Lucky are you C______??

By Lucky Luciano• 4 Feb 2010 13:27
Lucky Luciano

I want to fulfill my LUST in Mombasa. any guidence MR. Arien :))))))))))))))))

By drmana• 4 Feb 2010 13:15
Rating: 4/5
drmana

I would say:

Only lust= a big no no

Only love= maybe

lust+love= a winner

no love+ no lust= :-(

So for me, Love has a bit upperhand to Lust though both are important in a relationship.

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 12:59
Rating: 3/5
svelte_saggi

let's put it this way....lust is what adds that extra zing to a relationship.just like addition of a few spices to vegetables.i prefer my veggies to be spicy rather than just plain boiled.of course i can eat boiled veggies also....won't die if i do.but at this age,when i can have spiced veggies,then why not?i'd always prefer it over boiled veggies.i can have boiled veggies later on in my life when i'm old and my tastebuds don't work as well as they do now....

boiled veggies + spices = love + lust

boiled veggies - spices = love - lust

ROFL! :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By rein• 4 Feb 2010 12:56
rein

lust is not as important as love! lust is only about what you can get, but love is about what you can give and do for someone. its quite simple

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 12:52
Rating: 2/5
svelte_saggi

that was what i meant to say.during the initial years,lust weighs over love....over time (and obviously age),love takes the higher seat.the 10-12 years thing was just a passing statement.i didn't mean it in the literal sense.

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By Aunty virus• 4 Feb 2010 12:47
Aunty virus

You don’t need love to fulfill your lust!

lust can turn a man to a monster, but Love can make a man the most regimented.

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 12:43
Arien

Maggie - 10 to 12 years of lust to learn how to love?? come on :D , yes it goes hand in hand , together untill it dies with age.

I think its the strongest expression of love. Since there is physical involvement too,it obviously gets effected with aging, love remains.

By svelte_saggi• 4 Feb 2010 12:36
Rating: 5/5
svelte_saggi

agree with Winn on this....it goes hand in hand and helps a lot to cement a relationship in the early stages.so by the time u're like say 10-12 years into the relationship,u would have learnt to love each other too.elimination of ALL barriers,u see :-D

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By Formatted Soul• 4 Feb 2010 12:28
Formatted Soul

Winn you made yourself sound like an expert in the subject..lol

Smokey you are right..

By Winn• 4 Feb 2010 12:27
Winn

FS: ssshhhh....! ;)

By smoke• 4 Feb 2010 12:22
Rating: 2/5
smoke

Again definition of lust would be a strong desire for something sexual or non sexual like money, power, property etc.

You can have lust for many but love for just one. Lust doesnt drive a person to make contact with the opposite sex, its again attraction, if we are talking about relationships.

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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By anonymous• 4 Feb 2010 12:18
anonymous

for me love and lust go hand in hand in a relationship.

-- come what may and lovin' it!--

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 12:16
Arien

mmyke .. yes , thats what I said in my first comment. Only Love is permanent. Lust dies.

By Winn• 4 Feb 2010 12:13
Rating: 5/5
Winn

Well, lust, especially during the initial phases of a relationship helps in breaking down a lot of the barriers between the two people in it. It makes them feel more comfortable with each other in their own skin. it also leads them to be open and honest about their inner most core. this inturn can help the longevity of the relationship even after the lust factor dies down.

On a flipside, if not reciprocated it can imbalance a relationship. Having had my share of relationships, I find lust a great ice-breaker. can be a deal-breaker too, in some cases.

By smoke• 4 Feb 2010 12:08
smoke

Lust leads to rapes and other crimes too.

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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By happygolucky• 4 Feb 2010 12:06
Rating: 2/5
happygolucky

It all depends what name you give it or how you see it...end of the day most of us just do it...either in the name of love or lust...seems they are also named depending on circumstances...:)

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One life to live, live it to the fullest.

By Formatted Soul• 4 Feb 2010 12:03
Rating: 4/5
Formatted Soul

In the long run....it’s Love that matters...

Hormones descend as we get older….so is lust!

....but love and togetherness ascends as years pass by..

By mmyke• 4 Feb 2010 12:02
mmyke

comes out of old christianity which comes out of the Middle East which still is totally hung up and holds very unhealthy attitudes about sex and relationships,,,no?

By smoke• 4 Feb 2010 11:59
Rating: 4/5
smoke

I think they go hand in hand...love to lust for the first 5 years for your wife and then lust over every other female :P

The term lust in religious view is termed as a deadly sin. Something that must be avoided at all times. So then how can we put lust to go with something so wonderful as love?

Perhaps the term "attraction" would be better suited.

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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By mmyke• 4 Feb 2010 11:59
Rating: 2/5
mmyke

had lust in their relationship,,,it had to exist at some point for healthy bonding to take place...

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 11:55
Arien

Depends mmyke.. a couple at their 80s do love eachother , dont they??

By mmyke• 4 Feb 2010 11:52
mmyke

a relationship devoid of it, can you?

By Hasan Shaikh• 4 Feb 2010 11:48
Hasan Shaikh

I love them both.

By Arien• 4 Feb 2010 11:44
Arien

Lust is transitory whereas love is permanent....

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