Mother beats five-year-old to death over poem
A woman who beat her five-year-old daughter to death while trying to get her to memorise a poem has been spared jail by a Chinese court, state press said Wednesday.
Tan Hongying was sentenced to three years in prison by a court in eastern Zhejiang province on Tuesday but the sentence was suspended and she was instead given five years probation, the Beijing Morning News reported.
The report did not say why the court in the city of Jiashan handed down such a light sentence.
The girl died in March after Tan pushed her to memorise a Tang Dynasty (618-907) poem, a common school exercise for Chinese children, the report said.
Tan said she "hit the child on five or six occasions, with three or four strikes each time" on the back of the head as the girl tried to recite the poem.
The girl was pronounced dead a day after the March 29 beating, it added.
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True....rest in peace poor little angel.
A sad case mana - and the child is the victim. All we can do is pray for her soul and hope that the mother is punished through suffering for the loss she caused as the courts were too lenient on her.
Alumnar, got your point. I wasn't generalizing but just answering the very first question as to why these things are happening. I agree with what you said about this case that the child has been cruelly robbed of her life. But I think we can discuss what caused this heart breaking incident. That's all. No argument whatsoever with what you said about the case.
Mana, I didn't ask 'why robbing'. Here is the post you mention:
What also amuses me is people thinking that this child has been robbed of her childhood. HELLO??? She has been robbed of her LIFE!!! It's this case we are discussing, not generalizing! It's simply MURDER!!!
If that mother would ever cross my path.. enough said!
This child was robbed of her life, not just her childhood. That's what I meant.
and definitely, not all can be judge in a court of law! Sometimes, what we thought is right is wrong. To each his/her own. In some cases, the ends justifies the means, but in most cases, there are no ends to talk about! Good morning ladies!
may she rest in peace....
It is all too easy to be vocal against the mother. She will suffer for the rest of her life..
In today's competitive world, too many of us push our children to compete for the sake of betterment. Sometimes, it goes too far - as in this case...
Alumnar, my reply was for your comment at 11:11 PM where you asked why "robbing" ?
Parents sometimes transfer all their "hopes" and "dreams" to their kids. Since they couldn't succeed they push their kids to. When the kids don't match up to their high expectations or when the pressure builds up too much, they "lose" it.
She can't be termed as a MOTHER but a cruel WITCH..
here is absent. Check the thread about the Saudi Prince, pictures and some underlying facts were released so at least we know some particular facts, but here, what do we know? Even the article was blank why the light punishment? There are must be some underlying issues that were not presented in the story. In such cases, "intent" is the name of the game. Did she ever intended to kill the child?
this cannot be just an accident...how can a mother beat her own child so much?? i agree that in the asian culture, disciplining children by beating them is very common, but to beat a child to death??...is inhuman!! how could a mother not know that the head of a child is a very sensitive part to keep hitting there continuously??? horrible...she should have been given life imprisonment...
Qler? To interpret their laws?
but as I said, we don't know the underling facts of the case. We just rely on the "sensationalism" carried by the press. If we will not be objective and see just what we see, then we can conclude that there is nothing left good in this world. But there is. We just need to see the whole view and not rely on few!
can't expect it from a mother. May the lil girls' soul RIP :-(
Mana - of course I understand the point, but wondering why you highlight that part. Anything to do with copy and paste? If you understood my point, I meant to say to post the link and comment on it yourself first, that's all.
Hope you have a good day :)
the incident? If you decide based on result, yeah, maybe you are all right. But are you saying that the judges in this case are nuts? That's why not everyone can be in such position 'cause justice is not ruling based on your emotion. It is base on facts and facts alone. So if HGL is saying his comment, it's his view and nobody should make it a personal attack on a person for just giving his view! You have yours, others have theirs! Let's keep it that way!
'She beat her child knowing what kind of damage a blow to the head can cause'... the portion in bold in this statement is again an assumption...as someone also pointed out above, not everyone is aware of human physiology.
What will happen if she kills someone else's kid? Will she be allowed to walk free?
Judge should keep emotions aside and give the verdict objectively.
nomerci's question: What makes people do such horrid things?
I answered: Expecting too much from little ones and robbing them of their childhood....
I hope you understand the point.
She beat her child knowing what kind of damage a blow to the head can cause. So with her knowing that and causing the death of her child, I'm sorry to point out that it makes it clearly 'MURDER' to me. Her anger (her child wasn't doing as well as she should) and obsession in perfection (the little girl just had to recite and memorize that poem there and then, right???) drove her to administer a blow that caused DEATH.
To me it is and will be murder.
I rest my case. Good night QL'ers.
saeedkhan... as for blood money for accidents in Qatar that is a written down procedure not subject to interpretation... but jail term is again subject to interpretation, this was discussed on the other thread about the death of a school girl, isnt it.
nah... that smiley was also unintentional... I could have edited it, but since it was already pointed out I let it be as then ex.ex.expat's statement about it wouldnt make sense for someone reading later...however made it a point, not to repeat that in my next post.
BTW do you seriously believe that the mother actually did beat her child with the intention to kill.
People who end posts talking about the death of a child with a smiley can only agree that the death of that little girl was an accident, what else is there to expect???
ex.ex.expat... if only the mother knew that her hitting will end up killing the child IMO she would have never done that.... but then her hitting led to the childs death.. an unintentional death... an accident.
that the mother struck her in a way that could kill her and did. She had to know that she could injure or hurt the child. She is responsible for killing the child and I will never accept this as an accident. There are many accidents that result in death. But this is not one of them.
And sorry but I can't end my comments with a smiley like you, mate.
saeedkhan... definition of accident "An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm"... hope you can understand my POV ...:)
ex.ex.expat... hitting with 'enough force' would be an assumption.... if struck with appropriate force at the right spot on that part of the head can kill anyone even a grown up like me and you...she was just a tender 5 yr. old child.. may be she could not bear those many hits... but since the mother was trying to teach her something IMO she wasnt trying to kill the child... if the intention was to kill she need not be teaching her... she can just hit her once with 'énough force'...:)
striking a child with force 15-24 times on the head could result in death or brain damage. That is how it is can never be an accident. Unless the mother is a child herself or mentally disabled I don't see how this can be an accident.
Saeedkhan...would you define 'áccident' as you understand. And since you say, it can never be an accident...what in your opinion is it... did the mother killed the child intentionally.
but I do think hitting a child 15-24 times on the head with enough force to kill the child is criminal, not an "accident".
Yes, I still stand by my statement that it is an accident and I would not want to make it complicated by bringing in issues such as child rights and all that stuff... it can be very easily understood that it was unintentional... and before I am seen as someone supporting beating of a child, let me clarify...no I dont... but then to consider beating a child as something to be made out a cultural thing or an issue of boy and girl or done with the intention to kill... sorry I dont buy that arguement.... and thats why say its an accident.
and a disagreement. But you won't see me running to the mods or calling for the thread to be deleted over it. Understand the difference, mate?
on her head? 15 to 24 blows to the head is JUST AN ACCIDENT???
That's disgusting.
You hit a child hard enough to kill them and it is JUST AN ACCIDENT???
That is exactly the kind of remark that shocks me. If someone killed your child over not being able to memorize that would you say it is just an accident and let them off the hook?
Since when did children have no rights?
It is just an accident... nothing intentional and no relation with culture or being a boy or a girl... and the court in all its judicious capacity has given the judgement without getting emotional, which it should not be. We souldnt get carried away by such news and decry that judgement wasn't fair... not necessarily.
She deserves nothing less than the harshest punishment (Life in prison or the death penalty) in my opinion. The message this sentence sends is that it is okay to kill your child if you are angry. The very same court would surely give a harsher sentence if the woman killed someone unrelated, so why does the fact that it was her child change anything?
What a sick world we live in. Poor little mite :(
Expat - it's China, and she 'only' killed her daughter. Had it been a son, the story and outcome would have been totally different. May her little soul rest in peace.
What also amuses me is people thinking that this child has been robbed of her childhood. HELLO??? She has been robbed of her LIFE!!! It's this case we are discussing, not generalizing! It's simply MURDER!!!
If that mother would ever cross my path.. enough said!
Dead right expat - nobody tell me that a mother who hits her child to the point of killing her, didn't know what she was doing??? And those sad people who actually think that the mother didn't know the child could get seriously hurt (never mind KILLING the child) - are you actually fit to have children yourselves if you are making excuses for a CHILD MURDERER???
Some people make me SICK!!!
woman (who I refuse to call a "mother"). hms and rishimba, do you really think this is acceptable because the mother was upset?
And the sentence is even more shocking. I can't understand how our judicial systems treat children as if they are lesser beings and let parents off with such light sentences. Truly disgusting :(
That sick mother probably thought that her daughter was a burden to her anyway - the preference of boys in that society can't be ignored. How you can beat a child to cause death is beyond any understanding for me. She should actually be stoned to death - yes, an eye for an eye and blind justice to anybody who harms a child on purpose!!!
Different culture I guess. In my opinion unforgivable, but to someone who is Chinese perhaps understandable. Anyone Chinese on QL want to comment?
this is so sad. chinese parents (or in that case, other east asian parents as well like those in korea and japan) can be really hard on their children when it comes to their education because they want them to succeed so much. there's just so much pressure for them to go to the right schools and such.
i remember seeing a mother and son of chinese ancestry in singapore in a subway train. she was checking her son's notebook during the ride and it seems that the boy either didn't finish his homework/exam or had answered many of them incorrectly. she kept hitting her child while shouting at him the whole time in full view of all the other passengers, most of whom were teenage students. the boy was crying terribly and he kept trying in vain to write something on his notebook. that sight was just so heartbreaking and traumatic for the kid. the boy was just around 6-7 years old i think.
She got the worst possible punishment possible by losing her child. Nothing can be as painful and as harsh as that.
Disgusting. It makes me so angry to read things like this. This woman deserves much more than her sentence.
I actually hate reading news like this, it makes me sad... the poor little angel... :(
how can it be an accident?? why would she have to hit her own child like that anyway? just because of a poem! BS!!
oh ff's sake, she hit her numerous times....that woman knew what she was doing...I am not saying she WANTED to kill the child, but she defo was brutal on purpose.
drmana, everyone is not aware of human physiology..i guess the medulla oblongata was affected in this case.
We all want our children to do well, but this is ridiculous. Why hit your child? You can discipline your child without using violence.
its possibly an accident...no mother would actually want to harm her child.
pressure from the school and bad temper of the mother probably caused the child's death.
your avtaar pic is too scary.
Slap at the back of the head? No way :-(
drmana that's where the slap will most probably be directed when the mother is sitting alongside her daughter.
anger will ruin everything, in anger humans will be inhuman.
Why on earth would one hit a child at the back of the head?
be possibly she hit the baby in some sensitve area, so no mother can do this so it may be accident.
Expecting too much from little ones and robbing them of their childhood....
What makes people do such horrid things?