Snoop Dogg joins nation of islam....

No need for all of this I guess, if certain rules and facts that are not written in quran or been said by the prophet then it dosent relate to islam

He must have quit Weed again... can't see it lasting long, like the last time he "found" Jesus.

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I have little knowledge about the Islamic Nation. Cannot pretend I know the answer to your question.

Sorry:(

Understood UKEng. Thanks.

deviants group

tallg I was refering to the fact of race and colour of the above abrahamic religions where as NOI reject mixed races in their religion..

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Brit - They also say blacks are the superior race, and the mixed-race marriage and reproduction should be outlawed.

UKEng - I'm not sure I understand your point.

Islam is just like the any other Abrahamic religion such Christianity, Judusim when you compare world religions...

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Elijah Muhammad believd that all people of colour, were descended from the ancient tribe of Shabazz that originatd from the holy city of Mkkah. Hence the link to Islam.

Their main focus is on the non-white population. They say, that they want to "raise the moral, social, and economic standing of non-whites."

From what i have read, they actualy promote reverse racism.

Malcom X distanced himself from Nation of Islam after visiting Mecca when he realised that Muslims where of all colours just not black

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Thanks Platao.

From the brief reading I've done since this thread started I'd agree with Abu; they look like a group who've taken the established religion of Islam and twisted it to meet their own anti-white agenda.

Tallg: "Malcolm's assassins, Talmadge Hayer, Norman 3X Butler and Thomas 15X Johnson were convicted of first-degree murder in March 1966. The three men were all members of the Nation of Islam."

Same source as previous post

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Thanks platao. Just out of interest, did they catch the 3 gunman, and did they prove they were NOI members?

"After Malcolm resigned his position in the Nation of Islam and renounced Elijah Muhammad, relations between the two had become increasingly volatile. FBI informants working undercover in the NOI warned officials that Malcolm had been marked for assassination. (One undercover officer had even been ordered to help plant a bomb in Malcolm's car).

After repeated attempts on his life, Malcolm rarely traveled anywhere without bodyguards. On February 14, 1965 the home where Malcolm, Betty and their four daughters lived in East Elmhurst, New York was firebombed. Luckily, the family escaped physical injury.

The legacy of "X"

One week later, however, Malcolm's enemies were successful in their ruthless attempt. At a speaking engagement in the Manhattan's Audubon Ballroom on February 21, 1965 three gunmen rushed Malcolm onstage. They shot him 15 times at close range. The 39-year-old was pronounced dead on arrival at New York's Columbia Presbyterian Hospital.

QuoteFifteen hundred people attended Malcolm's funeral in Harlem on February 27, 1965 at the Faith Temple Church of God in Christ (now Child's Memorial Temple Church of God in Christ). After the ceremony, friends took the shovels away from the waiting gravediggers and buried Malcolm themselves.

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source: http://www.cmgww.com/historic/malcolm/about/bio3.htm

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I don't think he'd even be recognized as by the Nation of Islam as a Muslim. I read that he expressed support but didn't "convert." It's kinda like the conversation between a chicken and a pig about a bacon and egg breakfast. The pig says to the chicken, "It's all right for you, they just require a donation. For me it's a real sacrifice."

Mandi

That's what I'm trying to find out. I don't think Nation of Islam would be recognised as part of Islam by Muslims, so I don't think he'd become a Muslim.

I'm a little confused. The article says he attended a convention of the Nation of Islam, and "joined" them, that he praised Louis Farrakhan and made a $1,000 donation to the group. Does that mean he said "shehada" and is now a Muslim? I think it's not at all clear.

Mandi

Reading the wiki entry I linked to above it would seem odd for them to have white members considering some of their beliefs (blacks are superior to whites, inter-race marriage/reproduction should be banned, etc), but I haven't read anything saying they don't.

Happy Happy, do you consider people converting to Nation of Islam as converting to Islam?

I'm just intrigued because I know how strict Islam is about what it believes, and Nation of Islam goes against some of Islam's basic principles.

I am not entirely sure Tallg, I have heard some say that Nation of Islam in the time of Malcolm X was much better than it is now.

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Specially sinners, I would love to see them converting to be someone like Omar Bin Alkhattab.

Salam

But surely Muslims don't recognise Nation of Islam as part of their religion, do they?

If the Michael Jackson rumor of conversion (I am still unsure about that one) can be tolerated and muslims could embrace the freakshow pedophile I cant see why they would have issue with Snoop.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Righto Alexa, it is the content of his songs and arguably the music itself. Cat Stevens, now known as Yousef Islam, sings Islamic Nashheds but without music (other than a drum, which is permissable in Islam).

I doubt you will get a lot of muslims on here bashing the guy for converting. You may get that later based on his actions after his conversion.

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So can Nation of Islam members sing?? I know you aren't supposed to as a Muslim.

For those who want to know what the Nation of Islam is and how it differs from Islam; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam#Comparison_with_traditional_Islam

They definitely aint the same thing!

Platao - I thought Malcolm X was a teacher of NoI ideas.

Hapy: Even being a convert, and haven't read as much as i should about Islam, i would agree with the hardcore muslims, as far as i remember they were responsable for the death of Malcolm X. Even if i admire Mohamed Ali for what he stands.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

coz hard core muslims do not beleive Nation of Islam people are muslims

"He has been arrested numerous times, mainly for possession of marijuana, and was charged as an accomplice to the murder of Phillip Woldermarian in 1993. The rapper was found not guilty."

lol gypsy, i wonder if he'll stop smoking weed ;)

""I'm an advocate for peace. I've been in the peace movement ever since I've been making music," he told followers. "My whole thing is not about really trying to push my thing on you. It's just about the way I live, and I live how I'm supposed to live as far as doing what's right and representing what's right. That's why I was here today.""

hmmmm, interesting, seams that, like me, he's also a peace worker.

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Fo' shizzle my nizzle!

ROFLING! Why aren't all the hard core Muslims posting this! Look another "revert"! :P Wonder if he'll stop imbibing the gin and juice.