Some of us might ask this question

nothing means no change and it also means that he/she will not see because the situation is not changed.

this person is either insane or thinks that his eyes cause him to sin, then i expect nothing

here is a new thread that might help whenever you feel like 'WHY ONLY ME?"http://www.qatarliving.com/node/2022026:) thankful

and it is not a shame and such a momments brought me luck, this is the nature of people to change their minds when they have new information which is logical and not contradicting with their culture and beliefs, people changes, some are slowly and some quickly.

TwoStone if there is a person who decides to take of his/her eye forever then do we expect him/her to see naturally without any intervension?

Can we call Heaven is the place where there is no trouble.

If you think LLP that truth does not exist then you are living in fake and darkness.

LLP people have choices in some things and in some things they don't have choice.

SA, has it ever occured to you that it is probable at some point in one of the infinite universes you don't agree with SA?

think about it

a humble advise, if anyone of us here on QL feel they are impoverished and ask themselves this question "Why only me?" then have a look at the HUMAN community facing the Horn of Africa Drought.all human are equal irrespective of any sort of differences.... but the Creator has chosen us for a more convenient worldly life... and within ourselves some are better off than the other... however we are way blessed than many in different parts of this world.... so instead lets Smile and Thank the Provider for this easy life.

There are no "normal" conditions, SA. Just look around. And if you say "absence of trouble" is "normal", then where is that place? Certainly not the universe, and certainly not earth."Many truths are there.."How come? There can only be ONE truth. Else you don't understand the meaning of the word 'truth'. Q1. Nobody "knows" the origin of the universe. Your question is fictive.Q2. Yes, it is the result of different environments.Q3. Fictive question. That's not how it is.Q4. My objective is to live until I die. I only have this ONE.Q5. The "meaning of life" is a nice movie by Monty Python. I agree with his illustration.

I hope now you will answer

"In order to survive logic might tell you to kill, because otherwise YOU would die. Logic therefore is neither bad nor good!"

This logic is not in normal condition,

Normal conditions can be widely expressed, you can be normal within your family, within work, within community, within friends,...etc.

I will not define what is normal conditions in details but in short it means absence of troubles.

LLP if people keep focusing on one thing during their whole life then they forget many other important things in their life.

The universe is one of the greatest things which I can think of how it was made and what proves that, is that there are new researchs and news about the universe every year.

Many truths are there and I will give you three as an example:

1. People knowledge is limited, in the way there is no person who knows all (From my belief God knows all)

2. People never succeeded to know the future, a small example for this is those people who had car accidents , if they knew that driving in this road will cause an accident then they might not have gone for this road.

3. New borns have no choice in choosing their real father and mother.

TB, and you, stop being jealous!

SA, why do you want me to answer these questions? There are hundreds, or maybe hundred-thousands of books on these questions, and they all give varying answers depending on the backgrounds of the authors. Do you want me to add one more useless uttering?Honestly, for you it is easy: read the Qur'an. And when you got all your answers, be happy.

Is anyone keeping score? LP I think you are ahead at the moment.

but let me ask these questions:

Q1: How will the knowledge of the origin of the univerese will let you accept the truth?

Q2: Is it coincidence that people have different colors, languages and beliefs?

Q3: What will be the world look like if all people had the same jobs, for example all people are bank officers, or all people are teachers?

Q4: What are your objectives in this life? (give three or five objectives please)

Q5: What is the meaning of life for you?

It is very normal to accept that the current world is in a state of chaotic system, if there were no problems at all in this world then we will be living in heaven right?

I agree that no one should force his/her beliefs (This is the ideal way)

I hope LLP can answer these questions as well

SA, nobody can live forever. The telomeres at the ends of the chromosomes define the number of cell divisions possible. It has nothing to do with being "weak".If I should be ill, SA, I go to bed and sleep until I feel better. No need to have Mama beside me!In order to survive logic might tell you to kill, because otherwise YOU would die. Logic therefore is neither bad nor good!And to return to the topic 'Why Me?', if you ask yourself that question it only shows that you are weak and you don't understand how the universe is functioning.It wasn't made to please you, SA. If you think it was made to please you, then you ignore the observations. (Which is your right, of course).

SA, Truth eludes everyone...we can only approach the truth through our beliefs based on our intellect, understanding and knowledge of the universe.

I have certain beliefs which are based on my understanding and experience. I am a pragmatist, so want to verify it before accepting anything as the truth.

You and me may have many common beliefs and many may not be. That is because, your beliefs have originated from a different background and experience than mine, so they cannot be all the same.

I don't want to digress from the topic and I have said what I felt about why a person should not ask 'why me?' in times of trouble. It has been proved that the world is a chaotic system. You cannot predict the weather in the long run, nor the future events in your life as they are not repetative. So accept yourself as a part of the chaotic system without wailing and crying.

 I don't force my thoughts on others and don't expect others to force their beliefs on mine.

Differs from one to another but at the end we as people need some one to take care of us.

truth hurts

If you escape then this shows a big weakness which you have and your reputation in QL will go down

First question

Can you give examples for what you said

"For 'logical' reasons it could be best to cheat, to lie, to be dishonest, to kill, to leave poor people where they are, to ignore animals, to kill, and so on"

People take decisions based on the logic and the logic itself can be right or wrong.

Do you think that logic is something good or bad?

LLP I would like to tell you that the people who has a common sense will say that the logic which encourages to cheat, to lie, to be dishonest, to kill, to leave poor people where they are, to ignore animals, to kill, and so on is the worest logic in the world.

People can be either good or bad, there is nothing between good and bad, see people who say correct things benifit people, people who say bad things harm them selves beofre others, people who say nothing are also considered good because they do not harm othes.

Are you strong enough LLP, if yes then do not die and live forever.

Are you strong enough LLP, if yes then why did you get ill some times, caugh or stomach ach for example?

The logic says that people them selves are weak and need others to take care of them.

SA, belief and logic have nothing (!!) in common. For 'logical' reasons it could be best to cheat, to lie, to be dishonest, to kill, to leave poor people where they are, to ignore animals, to kill, and so on. There could be situations where logic would tell you to do that.Belief is NEVER based on logic. This was the worst nonsense you have ever produced so far, SA!

I wrote this late at night, I am welling to see yor answer and LLP I hope I answered you correctly.

Q: Why do you have to believe in something?

A: because if you believe in something then this will tell you for what you are living and what is the purpose of life, your soul will not be empty.

Yes a believe can cause trouble if it is based on wrong basis, but if it is based on a logical basis.

Yes some beliefs can be better than others when we look at the logic behind it.

We as people are responsible for the belief we choose.

A question for LLP and DK:

For exampl there is a belief which tells us

1. Not to cheat

2. Not to lie

3. Be honest and humble

4. Help the poor people according to your wealth and ability

5. If you save one life is like if you save all

6. Prohibits killing

7. Taking care of workers who are sponsored by you

8. Be good to people and show respect

9. Take care of animals

10. Be good to your parents and relatives

11. Be loyal to your wife and children

There more which I can write, so how come such a belief can be source of trouble?

I agree, and that's what I said in my earlier post...till I understand it, I maintain I am part of this Chaotic universe.

Why do you have to 'believe' in something? Why don't you try to 'know' things, and wait until you 'know' the rest, too? It is belief that creates the trouble in the world since the beginning of the human societies, because there are as many 'beliefs' as there are thinking brains. Unfortunately some think their 'belief' is 'better' than others! And that's when the trouble begins.

SA, Yes, we both believe in something or the other...but, the beliefs don't match. I have told you mine and you have explained yours..that's it.

Do you agree on that?

Then you say that these things are man made is there any proof for that? I really advice you to see the link in my signature, In your last comment you clearly stated is brought by the people them selves.

I also really advice you to look at the web site of Harun Yahya,

SA, if everyone was a believer in the true sense, there wouldn't be so much trouble in this world. We know that all these words, like, re-incarnation, karma, fate, hell, heaven and judgement day etc. are man made and meant to streamline the minds and energies of human beings or else, they would creat disorder in the society. These beliefs are good for human beings too in the sense that they find some answers to the basic questions about their purpose of existence.

Your analogy of the car in this case is probably not relevant. When we are in trouble, we tend to repeat the same old rant that it must be our karma in the previous birth, or earlier in this birth or its fate etc. We also try to console ourselves that god is sending a signal to us for so and so reasons...and so on.

They are all beliefs to pasify ourselves, but the fact is, this world is in the state of Chaos and things could happen to you like they could happen to any other person. If you can predict the trouble, save yourself, if not, you suffer. Nothing more and nothing less.

People believe in fait their life will be much meaningful, believing in good and bad fait will help us to accept things more reasonably.

If people helps each other then this chaos will be minimized, people bring problems first, take this and tell me if you agree on it:

A well designed car is produced and some one bought it and not read the instructions and then accident happen because this person did not know the way the break works. Is it the car problem? No, it is the buyer problem because he did not read the instructions.

LP, well, its true we can roughly predict many of the events but I was talking about the common man, like us, who cannot predict how his life will unfold. He did't know why he was the one born on the street or why he suffered from a deadly congenital disease or he was the only one getting struck by lightening. If he asks "why only me?" do you think he has answer to this question.

And one for Straight Arrow: the universe, my friend, and it's physics are permanently trying to wipe us out. It happened several times in the course of earth's history, and it will happen again. Of course, you will say, that's the plan. But for us humans, the universe is a deadly place.

DK, the 'chaos' based on some of the understood physical laws allows us to predict what will happen to most of us. Unfortunately we can't predict what will happen to a single entity. All you have to do is to take precautions in case you are not one of 'the most'. Probability and statistics will help you to find your place which is 'relatively' safe. If you buy a house in New Zealand it it your fault, when you lose it through an earthquake. You 'knew' that before. But you can 'wisely' avoid most of the 'dangerous' situations if you keep yourself informed. As for Dec 2012, I have no concerns, because I don't see that anything extraordinary is going to happen then!

LP, Lets look at the theory of chaos..which says a system in which the particles are highly sensitive to the initial condition ( position & velocity) is said to be in a chaotic condition. these systems are unpredictable as they are dependent on many variables apart from their phase of origin.

Now, this universe is also a chaotic system which has many particles moving in different directions. If we look at the solar system, we really can't say now, when the next meteorite will hit us...nor can we prevent it.

Similarly, the unforseen events in a person's life are so intricately linked with so many internal and external factors that its not possible for an average human brain to forsee them. If they were, people would not suffer and die due to natural calamities. Btw, tell me what measures are you taking to save yourself for 2012 dec calamities..:-/

SA, what you said is a common understanding based on long term experience by generations of people but it's not a law. A law can be verified by simulating the conditions each and every time..but in this case we cannot do it.

Without accepting something in return right?

Doha Knight have you ever asked why people are dyeing in Somailia and other places around the world?

There are universal laws, and of the universal laws is that if you do something good you will benefit yourself soon or later, and if you do bad thing you will harm others and you will be harmed soon or later.

The universe we are living is perfectly made, see the gas for example, from chemistry there is what we call ideal gas and real gas, a perfect system is the system which contains plusses and minuses, we all must have fait because fait help us to to think positively, how?

DK, I personally think that disasters are foreseeable. That is, if you are alert all the time. Even the destruction of our planet through us is predictable and I am already building my arch. Now you can laugh at me, too.

LP, All I meant to say, there are times we can anticipate or apprehend the danger and thus change the course but at others, say for example, before any force majeure condition, we are unaware of the impending dangers and have to suffer.

Stray bullet is a possible scenario..probability of it hitting you differs from place to place and time to time.

Many a times, we are not the cause of our sufferings...so, how should this be explained. Now, do you have any other explaination for it?

DK, there's gotta be someone with the intention to kill. A stray bullet is a possible scenario. But isn't the world full of "stray bullets"? (Crazy drivers, for example).

LP, lol..

That is if I knew you would shoot me..what if I went to see you and I got shot either by you or by a stray bullet?

If I shoot you, DK, it's not your decision. But you can try to avoid meeting me. Then you won't be shot.

Nomerci, no one really fully understands all the factors which govern us....we also do not know if our thoughts and actions are influenced unknowingly by radiations from the cosmos ( astrology??)

Now, if you say, its the decisions of the parent, where does karma come in here. Do you mean to say, it was the karma of his previous birth that brought him to the street? Or he may be run down by a vehicle walking on the street or get struck by lightening.

So, it seems that decisions of others..maybe an individual or nature, do affect us. Since, we can never understand what will happen to us, its useless to ask, 'Why only me?

I maintain I am a part of this Chaotic universe...till I understand it.

DK, simple, because of the decisions their parents made. And our actions to pay us back likewise...hmm, that is IF we actually understand the laws that govern us. It is not as easy as it sounds.

Nomerci, Thats exactly we all should do. Our thoughts and actions are expected to pay us back likewise...which is common sense. However, it still doesn't explain why some people are born in a palace and some on the streets..

Oh no DK, I am not at all influenced by Buddhism.I don't think about re incarnation or what happens after we die. Karma, well, it may be true.,but it is not really my philosophy. I deal with the NOW. And NOW for me  means decisions, consequences, postitivity, balance , and harmony.

Nomerci, As you are influenced by Buddhism, you may have a certain belief which was propounded by its founder. However, others don't believe in re-incarnation. People have tried their best to link this life with the previous life but without any consistent result. As of now, as I understand it, its all Chaos. But, for some, as you said, its karma.

Well DK, we, the parents, are responsible for our children before they become adults.So, the answer would be "because of the decisions your parents made". You see, universal law does not beat around the bush. It is all pretty straight forward. But of course, that is how i understand it...you or anybody else may have a different opinion, and that is perectly fine.

Nomercy, I started my post to SA telling that generally being a good human being and having good thoughts and actions will lead you to have a good life. But, unfortunately, its not true everytime. I have quoted examples of natural calamities and man made calamities in which innocent people have suffered. So, it proves that being a good human being will not necesarrily give you a peaceful life.

In some religions, just to answer this question, they go back to the deeds of the previous birth. That too is not proved yet. Finally, what's the answer to the questions when a Somalian child asks himself ' why only me?'

DK, we all make decisions, and those decisions have consequences, as simple as that. As soon as we understand and accept that, the better things will be.The answer usually is "because I did/said xxxx, yyy happend" . Sometimes we do or say things which have massive influence on things we don't even know about...BUT, it always comes back to the same thing...we make decisions and there are consequences.  

It will generally be benificial for you if you strive to improve upon yourself wrt to the commonly accepted definitions of 'a good human being' though there is no direct relationship of it with having a better and happy life.

Also, this world, as its not proved otherwise, works in chaos. We really don't know what will happen to us tomorrow. As we say, good luck is just being at the right place at the right time which is such an open ended definition by itself. Now, considering the above, it doesn't make sense to ask the question 'why only me?' because we know that, being in the system of chaos, there is also a vague probability, in the maze of events, of some incidents happening with us irrespective of our prior information or actions.

Innocent children are dying of hunger in Somalia and people are getting killed all over the world for no fault of their own.

What is this universal law? Why don't we ask, why not me!!

We only tend to ask such questions when we are in trouble...but we don't have any answers. So, lets just accept, things are in Chaos and we might be part of good and bad things chaotically.

DK, what do the universal laws have to do with predictions of future events?They are simply there to giude us...that's all.

Nomercy, The problem is, as it seems to me now, nobody will ever be able to understand future events accurately. So, I accept its chaos.

The day someone will accurately understand all the universal laws and predict all events of the future, my paradigm will change.

DK, there is no chaos. The universe is meticulously organized. If you understand and follow the universal laws, you will be fine.

why should only me answer for this................????????????

this question because of a mistake you did, and you have found the solution so congratulation.

its so funny but i actually ask this question even at times when it is clear that many people are facing similar or even worse situation... one of them would be when i cannot find space in the masjid for prayer and have to pray outside in this humid weather.... though there are plenty people praying with me outside the masjid... still in my head at times it asks "why only me"... though the reason is clearly my fault that i did not plan to arrive early like the others praying outside with me.the lesson i learned ... is that such questions come only in despair and not in joy.... so it should be from the outcast satan trying to depress me for nothing could be better than what has already happened... unless i didnt try enuf. 

I hope Ram and timebandit can answer the 5 questions I asked

of course people think "why me". I think that is a good start, as it might make them figure out "why it is them" and not others.Of course, if it stops there, then it is useless.

Last two sentences are correct. But what is so frustrating is that if you ask the boss for some ideas about a particular work and by the time the result was discovered to be incorrect and that created some problems, he blames you instead but in the first place this was suggested by boss himself. If you tell him that this was his idea he would deny it. This happened to me several times so what I did, I just keep some evidences about the discussions. This simple mistake can mean a huge impact on one's self-esteem, willingness to learn and drive to decision making. For me, to help improve anyone must have this principle- "Don't find fault, instead find a solution."

The "why only me?" question is just an isolated perception.  Most of the times, bad perceptions as if the person dig deeper, he/she will learn that everyone gets in the same situation on a different stages or magnitude.

you don't need to read them,

All what I wanted is to help some people,

you see Ram truth hurts and the evidence is that you and the guys who commented on this post never answered the above 5 questions.

he just wants to whine...give this guy a break! 

Did you have a bad day or something???Why us has to suffer your non sense posts????Go get some life without keep on moaning here "Why me?"

But we as people share many things in common, and I have few a question for you and I wish you or others who have same opinion as you will answer this question, please answer Yes or No the question is:

1. Do you think that no asked this question "Why only me"?

2. Do you think that all people do their work 100% with no mistakes at all?

3. Do you think that all people have a beautiful life with no problems?

4. Do you think that all people have the same thinking as you?

5. Do you think that all people learn from their mistakes?

Cheers,

Who asked himself this question? Anyone?

SA I promise not to post on any more of your threads after this. I also don't want you to think I am stalking you, picking on you or bashing you. But I would like you to think long and hard if you consider this type of post to be correct. I could argue that it would have been better for you to simply point out to people that they should always be open to constructive criticism, and be prepared to learn from it. I don't understand where the "Why only me?" comes into it. Anyway once again I consider your post babbling rather than informative, accurate, or thought provoking.You seem to have a lot to say, and your posts are always of a serious nature. Thus I would like to offer you constructive criticism: Think a little longer about what you are trying to say before you post. Yes I know my posts are mostly rubbish, but then I don't take myself as seriously as you, and most people know most of my posts are light hearted.