urgent help

rima25
By rima25

I am tunisian muslim woman,i will get married to a french gentlman here in doha.
what we need both of us to proceed to marraige
thanks

By mohammad asmar• 29 Dec 2008 21:04
mohammad asmar

if u muslim and hes not .. sure u cant marry hem ..

guy muslim can marry christian but ladys not allow ..

By Kaldoosh• 26 Dec 2008 14:47
Rating: 4/5
Kaldoosh

to Cali_dreaming:

Muslim women can not marry non-muslim men, this is known and there is no need to create confusion

By Kaldoosh• 26 Dec 2008 14:41
Kaldoosh

is he Muslim too?

By Apple• 26 Dec 2008 14:40
Apple

Thus it mean, there is no way or any verse/ayah saying that a Muslim woman can marry Christian men without conversion?

By allam• 26 Dec 2008 14:33
allam

The muslim men and women can't marry idolaters,

[2:221][60:10]

But there is exception just for muslim men to marry those who were given the book -with some conditions-

[5:5]

http://www.elafco.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005002.html

By Apple• 26 Dec 2008 12:05
Apple

QUOTE FROM CALI DREAMING:

""Gentlemen,

Muslim women can marry Christian men according to the Koran, it has happened for centuries. Islamically its correct, and don't bother with everyone's ignorance on this matter. The law is clear.""

The above was a statement of Cali-Dreaming. Am asking for any verse/ayah that support him for saying that "MUSLIM WOMAN ARE ALLOWED TO MARRY CHRISTIANS" (without conversion prior to marriage??? at least, that's what i understood)

Thank you!:))

By allam• 25 Dec 2008 22:41
allam

idolaters is different than the people of the books

By allam• 25 Dec 2008 22:39
allam

Almaada

5|5|This day are (all) good things made lawful for you. The food of those who have received the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them. And so are the virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you (lawful for you) when ye give them their marriage portions and live with them in honor, not in fornication, nor taking them as secret concubines. Whoso denieth the faith, his work is vain and he will be among the losers in the Hereafter.

By allam• 25 Dec 2008 18:06
Rating: 3/5
allam

I got it.

2- The Heifer (Al-Baqarah)

[2:221] Do not marry idolatresses unless they believe; a believing woman is better than an idolatress, even if you like her. Nor shall you give your daughters in marriage to idolatrous men, unless they believe. A believing man is better than an idolater, even if you like him. These invite to Hell, while GOD invites to Paradise and forgiveness, as He wills. He clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may take heed.

60- The Test (Al-Mumtahanah)

[60:10] O you who believe, when believing women (abandon the enemy and) ask for asylum with you, you shall test them. GOD is fully aware of their belief. Once you establish that they are believers, you shall not return them to the disbelievers. They are not lawful to remain married to them, nor shall the disbelievers be allowed to marry them. Give back the dowries that the disbelievers have paid. You commit no error by marrying them, so long as you pay them their due dowries. Do not keep disbelieving wives (if they wish to join the enemy). You may ask them for the dowry you had paid, and they may ask for what they paid. This is GOD's rule; He rules among you. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

By Apple• 24 Dec 2008 15:05
Apple

I understand and I believe that we Muslim woman are NOT allowed to marry Non-Muslim man unless he converted to Islam prior to the marriage. What am asking to Cali-Dreaming is to support his statement in the above post with some verses and ayah from the Holy Qur'an.

By allam• 24 Dec 2008 14:51
allam

http://english.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/ShowFatwa.php?lang=E&Id=81220&Option=FatwaId

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

1 - All the jurisprudents unanimously agree that a MUSLIM woman cannot marry a NON-MUSLIM man. Allah says (Interpretation of meaning): {And give not (your daughters) in marriage to AL MUSHRIKUN (Polytheists, Pagans, Idolaters, and disbelievers in oneness of Allah and in His Messenger Muhammad, till they believe in Allah}. [2:221] Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): {If you ascertain that they are true believers, send them not back to the disbelievers, they are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them} . [60:10] Because in this marriage, a Muslim woman faces the danger of Kufr, as her husband might influence her. Because a wife always follows the footprints of her husband. 2 – On these bases, the marriage of a Muslim woman is prohibited with any NON-MUSLIM either he is Christian, Jew, Atheist or Idolater etc. Allah has cut off the guardianship of a Kafir over any Muslim. Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): {And never will Allah grant to the disbelievers a way over the believers}. [4:141] All the jurisprudents agree that marriage of a Muslim man to a Chaste woman from AHLULKITAB(People of the book) is lawful. Some of them disliked it. AHLULKITAB means the people of TORAH and BIBLE, who believe in a revealed religion, its origin was true, as Judaism and Christianity. Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): {Made lawful to you this day are AL-TAYYIBAT [all kinds of Halal (lawful) foods, which Allah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.(. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christian) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christian) before your time when you have given their due mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends}.[5:5] The main condition for marriage is chastity of woman, because this will be a cause of love and affection between spouses. 4 – A Muslim can not marry a polytheist (who worships anything other than Allah, like Idols, Stars, Sun) or an atheist woman or an apostate woman. Allah Says (Interpretation of meaning): {And do not marry Al-Mushrikât (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allâh Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress, etc.), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikûn till they believe (in Allâh Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater, etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikûn) invite you to the Fire, but Allâh invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember} . [2:221] 5 – The reason of permission of the marriage to a female of Ahlul Kitab is that she also believes in the basics of Islam, like her faith in oneness of Allah, in the hereafter life, in the reward and punishment from the Almighty Allah. There are some linking bridges between them, which may assure a happy conjugal life, and it is expected that she would embrace Islam, because she believes in messengers and revealed books in general. Allah knows best.

By Apple• 24 Dec 2008 14:19
Apple

In which verse and ayah it's stated? Can u please post it here?

Tnx advance

By Dawud_UK• 23 Dec 2008 23:55
Dawud_UK

cali-dreaming,

please don't make stuff up that is only going to confuse people.

it is clear from the Quran, that muslim men may marry chaste woman of the book, but no where is the opposite stated in either the Quran or the sunnah.

Abu Abdillah

By Cali_dreaming• 23 Dec 2008 22:02
Cali_dreaming

Gentlemen,

Muslim women can marry Christian men according to the Koran, it has happened for centuries. Islamically its correct, and don't bother with everyone's ignorance on this matter. The law is clear.

You are allowed this, and its clear Islamically correct. I do not know why you all would even disagree with this fact. It does sadenned me that these folks think they can change the Koran so easily. You should know what is said about such people.....I do hope your mouth closes before its closed for you.

E

By tya• 21 Dec 2008 22:20
Rating: 5/5
tya

All documents should be translated into arabic, and you have to stamp all the papers to Ministry of Foreign Affair. Then you can go to Shareeah Court and they will arrange the date

By Apple• 21 Dec 2008 16:03
Rating: 5/5
Apple

1-Passport/QID for both of you

2-Consent letter from your Father/male guardian to be stamped and notarized from your Embassy in Qatar.

3-NOC letter from your sponsor (Inquire w/ your HR dept. if you're working)

4-2 male witness if female at least 4...

5-Your "Mahar" or "Dowry" this is between you and your fiancee upon agreement, which to be stipulate in your contract.

Best wishes!

By rima25• 21 Dec 2008 15:30
rima25

thank you abohmaid

but what this ask in the court as documents?????????

By abohmaid• 21 Dec 2008 15:07
Rating: 2/5
abohmaid

god bless both of u

By rima25• 21 Dec 2008 14:55
rima25

thank you but what this ask in the court as documents

By Intelligent• 21 Dec 2008 12:19
Rating: 4/5
Intelligent

Good if he is willing to convert. Then let him go to QCPI there you will find people who will help him to convert and do all the necessary approval process.

After that you can go to the court and get your self a date for marraige. I believe once you finish the conversion process remaining things are very simple and straight forward.

Congrats.

By Intelligent• 21 Dec 2008 12:19
Rating: 4/5
Intelligent

Good if he is willing to convert. Then let him go to QCPI there you will find people who will help him to convert and do all the necessary approval process.

After that you can go to the court and get your self a date for marraige. I believe once you finish the conversion process remaining things are very simple and straight forward.

Congrats.

By rima25• 21 Dec 2008 12:02
rima25

thank you but his ready to covert to islam so then we have to do

By anonymous• 21 Dec 2008 00:53
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

dear lolita

you 'r tunisian and already all your laws in your country are against religion so why you afraid lolita take that dirty guy if if course he is not muslim take him to your country and marriage there or ask him to be muslim

By Cali_dreaming• 20 Dec 2008 22:20
Cali_dreaming

What about if they went to France and got married? It would have to be valid than, right? I was told that for the marriage to be valid it has to be recognized in your home country. I'm only asking, not stating any fact. But am definitely interested in knowing.

By goodluck• 20 Dec 2008 20:34
goodluck

I think he needs to convert first.

By fishermanalex• 20 Dec 2008 20:22
Rating: 5/5
fishermanalex

Rima

it is not a valid marriage from both RELIGION and CIVIL way

the Muslim woman must not get married to a non Muslim man this is in the shareaa....consequently it will not be valied in the civil court

By rima25• 20 Dec 2008 20:04
rima25

no he is not

By ngourlay• 20 Dec 2008 19:43
Rating: 5/5
ngourlay

if you're muslim and he's not, then your marriage will almost certainly be invalid in qatar.

last week, a couple who married legally in (I think) lebanon were sentenced in-absentia to one year in jail for illicit relations. luckily for them, they skipped the country before the sentence was passed.

By Mandilulur• 20 Dec 2008 19:20
Mandilulur

Is he Muslim also? If not, that certainly could be a grave impediment.

Mandi

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