and if you accepted it (after negotiations of some sort), you will be given the go signal to do all the formalities in travelling here (I am talking about our country, Philippine). The letter-offer will served as the provisional contract which is a legal document per se in the process of recruitment.
But the formal contract is done here with the stamp of the ministry. If there is a BIG difference between the formal and the letter-offer signed back home, then that is subject (?) for re-negotiation (if one can).
My point is that the contract is not worth the paper or the cyber ether it's written on until and unless the OP passes the requisite health and security (if needed) checks.
There have been too many instances where the preliminary "contract" has been changed once the employee is on the ground so to speak even if they pass all the health etc checks.
The OP should be asking questions about the employer's ethical integrity IMHO
It just sounds really dodgy to me. Why wouldn't they let you see the contract first, so that you know how much you will earn and whether housing (and what type) is included and more importantly, to see whether you want to except or not. They could easily add a clause that states that the contract will become void if you cannot get your RP. Very Strange.
Maybe others have gone this path for employment and can shed some light on the subject for you. Is this the English/Spanish teaching job for QR10,000 per month?
this is a post for trainer/admin asst in a language academy..
the offering is very simple 10000qr no housing annual residence fee paid by academy. wokring 6 days 8 hours a week, 2 weeks paid vacation and transportation from academy to client location if needed.
when i asked to see the contract i was told it would be given upon my recieving my residency permit & that the offering are to be made via email. So i guess the "offering email" is my contract. Am trying to press for a contract but am not certain they are willing to do that which is worrisome.
KIQ. they are looking for hepatitis, HIV and tuberculosis. For hep and HIV, I believe, you are declined an RP. For tuberculosis you may be offered treatment.
MC, I think what people are trying to say, is that Soraya should at least have had the opportunity to view her contract and the finer details within before coming here.
Soraya has not included many details and until she replies with further information, it is difficult to judge. A contract should exist now though, and not be written up when she arrives.
Of course any contract becomes null and void if the R.P. is unable to be attained. This was even written in our contracts.
Just out of curiosity, what are they looking for when they do the blood/x-ray tests? Disease? Do you get deported if you fail? Insurance issues? Any one know?
The contract is not valid until and unless you pass the health checks, this clause will be included in the contract - therefore "the contract" is only a piece of paper that is unenforceable until you pass the checks.
You should always have had a contract before accepting a positon, as this is the terms agreed on between you & the employer. If these terms were not right or suitable for you, then you would not accept the position!
Then, once you have signed your contract, arrive in Doha, you will then proceed with the requirements for your RP (resident permit). If you fail any of these requirements then you will be sent back home.
Never take a job, make a move, without agreeing terms & conditions and both parties signing a contract.
Yes but the contract is always contingent on the RP being issued which is contingent on all the blood/finger/criminal (if applicable) being OK if you check your "contract" it is contingent on a rsidency visa being issued - so you can sign it any time you like. The contract is not worth the paper it's written on if you don't clear the hoops aforementioned - this is standard operating practice in the GCC
I can only offer my personal experience and those of my friends. We looked over and signed our contracts months before coming to Qatar. The company sorted our visas before entry and R.P. when we got here. It sounds a bit odd and a big risk to come all the way here, when you might have to turn around and go back home. Do you at least know how much your salary is? Is housing, power, water, internet, T.V. etc all included? Don't forget that daycare and schooling can be expensive and it would be desirable for that to be included. These are details that you need to know before coming here.
MC, that's the RP, isn't it? I seem to remember my husband's contract arriving well before we left. Of course, it was an American university. Who the heck would come without seeing a contract? There was a clause that said that the contract was not in effect if he didn't get the residency permit.
Yes - your contract cannot be issued until and unless you pass the fingerprinting, blood work, chest xrays and possible criminal background check (depending on where you will work)they can only be done in country except for the criminal check - don't pass any one of these tests you don't get residency and you don't get a contract.
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and if you accepted it (after negotiations of some sort), you will be given the go signal to do all the formalities in travelling here (I am talking about our country, Philippine). The letter-offer will served as the provisional contract which is a legal document per se in the process of recruitment.
But the formal contract is done here with the stamp of the ministry. If there is a BIG difference between the formal and the letter-offer signed back home, then that is subject (?) for re-negotiation (if one can).
My point is that the contract is not worth the paper or the cyber ether it's written on until and unless the OP passes the requisite health and security (if needed) checks.
There have been too many instances where the preliminary "contract" has been changed once the employee is on the ground so to speak even if they pass all the health etc checks.
The OP should be asking questions about the employer's ethical integrity IMHO
It just sounds really dodgy to me. Why wouldn't they let you see the contract first, so that you know how much you will earn and whether housing (and what type) is included and more importantly, to see whether you want to except or not. They could easily add a clause that states that the contract will become void if you cannot get your RP. Very Strange.
Maybe others have gone this path for employment and can shed some light on the subject for you. Is this the English/Spanish teaching job for QR10,000 per month?
this is a post for trainer/admin asst in a language academy..
the offering is very simple 10000qr no housing annual residence fee paid by academy. wokring 6 days 8 hours a week, 2 weeks paid vacation and transportation from academy to client location if needed.
shed some light???
Hmm, sounds like you'll have to see what the "offering email" includes. If it is not comprehensive ask for more details to be included.
Mandi
Hi all,
when i asked to see the contract i was told it would be given upon my recieving my residency permit & that the offering are to be made via email. So i guess the "offering email" is my contract. Am trying to press for a contract but am not certain they are willing to do that which is worrisome.
Well, are you here yet ?
This sounds right !! Same thing happened to me ..
KIQ. they are looking for hepatitis, HIV and tuberculosis. For hep and HIV, I believe, you are declined an RP. For tuberculosis you may be offered treatment.
Mandi
MC, I think what people are trying to say, is that Soraya should at least have had the opportunity to view her contract and the finer details within before coming here.
Soraya has not included many details and until she replies with further information, it is difficult to judge. A contract should exist now though, and not be written up when she arrives.
Of course any contract becomes null and void if the R.P. is unable to be attained. This was even written in our contracts.
Just out of curiosity, what are they looking for when they do the blood/x-ray tests? Disease? Do you get deported if you fail? Insurance issues? Any one know?
The contract is not valid until and unless you pass the health checks, this clause will be included in the contract - therefore "the contract" is only a piece of paper that is unenforceable until you pass the checks.
You should always have had a contract before accepting a positon, as this is the terms agreed on between you & the employer. If these terms were not right or suitable for you, then you would not accept the position!
Then, once you have signed your contract, arrive in Doha, you will then proceed with the requirements for your RP (resident permit). If you fail any of these requirements then you will be sent back home.
Never take a job, make a move, without agreeing terms & conditions and both parties signing a contract.
Hope this helps.
Agree with Mandi...
Even i got my Contract Way before I Landed in Qatar...
Same goes for everyone in our Company...
Yes but the contract is always contingent on the RP being issued which is contingent on all the blood/finger/criminal (if applicable) being OK if you check your "contract" it is contingent on a rsidency visa being issued - so you can sign it any time you like. The contract is not worth the paper it's written on if you don't clear the hoops aforementioned - this is standard operating practice in the GCC
I can only offer my personal experience and those of my friends. We looked over and signed our contracts months before coming to Qatar. The company sorted our visas before entry and R.P. when we got here. It sounds a bit odd and a big risk to come all the way here, when you might have to turn around and go back home. Do you at least know how much your salary is? Is housing, power, water, internet, T.V. etc all included? Don't forget that daycare and schooling can be expensive and it would be desirable for that to be included. These are details that you need to know before coming here.
MC, that's the RP, isn't it? I seem to remember my husband's contract arriving well before we left. Of course, it was an American university. Who the heck would come without seeing a contract? There was a clause that said that the contract was not in effect if he didn't get the residency permit.
Mandi
Yes - your contract cannot be issued until and unless you pass the fingerprinting, blood work, chest xrays and possible criminal background check (depending on where you will work)they can only be done in country except for the criminal check - don't pass any one of these tests you don't get residency and you don't get a contract.
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