Why salary depends on Nationality?

anasfk
By anasfk

Hello all..

Drop your comments about this in Qatar/any GCC..

Why the salary range very vary between the defferent nationalities in same grade/postion? even they r not efficient than others?

as far as my knowledge, the salary rating as follows.

1st- Europian/Qatari
2nd-Egipt/India
3rd- Srilanka
4th- Philipines
5th- Nepal

By ibrahim_melouk• 7 Dec 2008 09:30
ibrahim_melouk

most of employers do give a higher salary to special nationalities!

thank God in our company it is not like that...

we have a chinese lady her salary is 19k, and asian guy 27k and an indian guy 23 a lebanese 15 an egypt 21 and so on...

when i look at them i do see that each one of them deserves the pay that he or she is getting! coz this is their skills and experience!

but in general YES in the gulf u get a higher pay if u have one of these passports!!!!

By Moneera• 7 Dec 2008 08:29
Moneera

keeeeeep calm friend Qataries are, still and will take the highest salary in the country forever and whatever cuz the country has a big priciple that is providing a decent life for Qataries FIRST

and salaries of other nationalities based on the standard of living in the mother country،،،،

By baldrick2dogs• 4 Dec 2008 07:47
baldrick2dogs

Amoud & A Merry, you've saved the correct answers till last. Well done :o)

When I hear westerners complaining about how unfair it is when, say, an Indian doing the same job as them for less pay I tend to ask "So do you want to work for the Indian's Salary?" They seem to go very quiet ;o)

By Dann• 4 Dec 2008 06:18
Dann

Im not agree the salary is depent on nationality. Its depends on your experiance, qualification from which university you grad and depends on how much you accept the offer. Dont accept any offer if you think its low or below the market. Thats how im doin it and im not european. Cheers

By lebyvr• 4 Dec 2008 03:42
lebyvr

Nationality does Matter this happens in all gulf countires not only Qatar .

For the philipina lady "Ne" relax, philipinos get 100$/month or max of 150$ /month in Lebanon and they still accept to work as servants(no offence). I used to think that the word "sirilankian" means servant.when I grew up and got education and traveled to Canada I understood the game .It's all politics and it's not ur fault , it's ur government fault. But let's face it , it depends on nationality and education , take it or leave it.

I am dreaming of a day when everybody is equal.

By mr-design• 4 Dec 2008 03:10
Rating: 3/5
mr-design

the different is not in nationality ......... the different is why they accepting to work by this salary range.

the European people will not accepting what others accepting to work for.......

accept or not accept........

don't accepting something then u start looking for other people.

for example if i asked European person to work as (Projects manager) with salary of 10000 qr (he will not accept that). because he Don't jump to step 3 before step 1 & step 2

step 1 ( get a good Salary)

Step 2 (get the work)

step 3 (work hard) to get promotion and to be efficient

the other nationalities some of them will accept to work less than 8000 not even 10000 just to get the work..... .

they jump to step 2 ........

then they work very hard (they will do all the work in the company with the feeling

(i'm the only efficient person)

then they look to step 1 we need good salary.........

i'm not European................. :)

By mr-design• 4 Dec 2008 03:06
Rating: 4/5
mr-design

the different is not in nationality ......... the different is why they accepting to work by this salary range.

the European people will not accepting what others accepting to work for.......

accept or not accept........

don't accepting something then u start looking for other people.

for example if i asked European person to work as (Projects manager) with salary of 10000 qr (he will not accept that). because he Don't jump to step 3 before step 1 & step 2

step 1 ( get a good Salary)

Step 2 (get the work)

step 3 (work hard) to get promotion and to be efficient

the other nationalities some of them will accept to work less than 8000 not even 10000 just to get the work.......

they jump to step 2 ........

then they work very hard (they will do all the work in the company with the feeling

(i'm the only efficient person)

then they look to step 1 we need good salary.........

i'm not European................. :)

By yel_tiu• 4 Dec 2008 01:35
Rating: 3/5
yel_tiu

EXCUSE ME,,,,,,,, DONT put the filipino on the 4th place... in my work we have india there same we finished our study but my salary is more than her ,, IM Filipina but the quality of my work IS Better than here..... OKKKKKKKK and i think Filipino more salary than Sri lanka...thats for your INFORMATION

By yel_tiu• 4 Dec 2008 01:30
Rating: 5/5
yel_tiu

it doesnt depend on the nationality but on the money currency in your country,,, for example... i have friend working in the restaurant filipino salary is 1000 but the india is only 800.. why coz 1000 qr in philipinnes its 12000 and 800 of india in rupees 12000 also,,

By lebyvr• 4 Dec 2008 00:34
Rating: 4/5
lebyvr

I think it depends on a lot of factors:

First , the average salary in your home-country. I asked a Qatary company owner once and his answer was"imagine if we give a sirlinakian 100-150k, He/she will work for one or two years then go back to their home country and buy a villa (no offence) or send most of the money" a Lebanese wont be able to buy a car in his/her home country and he/she will spend a lot in qatar on decor and clothes and appearance.it's a way of life.

Second, it depends on how much you have spent on your education. someone who is graduated from Harvard unversity in USA, or a Canadian University (where post education is not free but very expensive VERY),Lebanese graduated from American University of Beirut. How much does it cost an indian or Nepalian to graduate? I know it might be a lot for them but still , it's how much they paid.

Third and very important reason is "appearance" . I am sooo sorry , please undestand I am not racist but I am talking facts , I am from Canada where racism is a crime. Look how does the European ,American,Lebanese talk,look and smell. Then compare to others . I shouldn't generlize but it's the reality. One of the lady's here said she is sirilankian but getting more than others"good for u , u must be taking care of urself". Here in Canada where everybody is equal and all get same salaries , I can smell curry from an Indian from a distance , and I can know Lebanese before he tells me because his perfume.

Some might think it's rude what I said , but please understand, I am trying to be honest not rude. Hope these things will end and everbody becomes equal in this world , This is Islam

By popi8624• 27 Nov 2008 13:52
popi8624

It is very obvious why is like that.. Better skills, knowledge, dealing with people especially, analytical skills very important, way of speaking so better salaries!!!!!!

Everybody can see that in Qatar...no comparison I am afraid..

By encroft• 27 Nov 2008 13:45
encroft

Depends upon your portfolio, experience, exposure and finally HOW YOU MARKET YOURSELF

By GodFather.• 27 Nov 2008 13:21
GodFather.

Depends on the what you get in your own country.

By laurana• 27 Nov 2008 13:20
laurana

Shall we look at the qualifications (and quality of qualifications), experience, skills, open minded, being in touch with modern technologies and not forget about seriousity, trust and loiality........??

To have those at a higher level you have to pay a higher price..

By 3.Emad• 27 Nov 2008 13:06
3.Emad

should have posted this as a thread on the main forum! :D

By adnansk• 27 Nov 2008 13:02
adnansk

Actually the problem is mentality of Asians they don’t spend a lot of money for their life style and GCC people know very well how poor they are, if Indian/Pakistani/ Sirilankan get same package like Europeans even still they will not spend money on hotels/restaurant/living. Sorry for say but it’s a reality & fact.

By anonymous• 27 Nov 2008 13:02
anonymous

Sad but true, to a very large extent, salaries here in Qatar is based on Nationality. I'm not sure about other GCC countries, but I'm guessing its the same there too. There is another facet to it as well, the age factor. A budding young talent is often pushed down in the salary scale purely because of the age factor.

I would like to comment on the age factor before I comment on Nationality. Dear Qatar, times are progressing and the young generation has no time to sit and think traditionally. We would love to be guided with senior personnel, but believe me when I tell you, our creative ideas is what you need. Don't lose your chance of getting a creative mind by sparing a little. The trend in the UK (I can only comment on what I've seen) is to have a young workforce. Guided by senior people. The young workforce is obtained thru competitive salaries.

Secondly about the Nationality issue. Believe it or not, Racism is non existant in places where it was extensive many years ago, But the one demographic region where you still find it is the - Employment sector in the Gulf.

I was there when I saw Qatar grow and Indian's didn't occupy that second spot then. It was only due to extensive negotiation and not bending our knees that we have made it to the second spot. The salary scale over here in the gulf is an auction. You have to yell out your price. And I hate to tell this to you, other nationalities in the bottom wrung of the ladder have not yet reached to the level of claiming a stand for themselves.

Also, we have to keep in mind the huge gap between the 1st and 2nd wrung of the ladder.

What I feel is, many years ago when people came to Qatar (the economically unstable ones), they agreed to work as hard as possible for any available salary. With this repetative occurance, it caused the employers to understand that certain sect of nationalities can be taken for granted. Hence, causeing a problem for the ones who come into the country with higher career ambitions and capabilities.

The result of the situation = Qualified People with lower salaries.

Its has become like the food chain my dear. This can be only rectified if one layer sacrifices itself. Don't accept offers that you think are too less. Stand up for yourself, claim out what you think you require, regardless of the market. If you make this stand now, the salaries of all nationalities will be come similar in due course of time.

I'm not telling this is practical. But it is one possible way of countering the situation.

God bless...

By Amoud• 27 Nov 2008 13:00
Amoud

It all comes down to what salary you accept.

Also, if you get an American guy to come as an engineer his cost of living in his country, standard pay in his country etc will play a major role in his salary here. The package has to be more attractive than what he is currently getting to lure him here.

If these guys werent competant then I wouldnt imagine companies would be hiring them. You cant place the blame on local companies, they are looking at this from a business point of view. They are trying to get the best workers for the lowest costs, and if you are offered something and you accept I am sure the employers are not going to complain or tell you that you deserve more cause someone else makes more than that.

By a merry can muslim• 27 Nov 2008 12:56
Rating: 4/5
a merry can muslim

Because Westerners demand more money to come and have skills that Asians do not. So they can demand a premium.

Plus to the best of my knowledge Asians typically make more money working here than they do in their country of origin....

By Victory_278692• 27 Nov 2008 12:55
Victory_278692

Obviously, depend on the lifestyle, standard of living and secondly on the skills and education(gained from which university).

By shadabalji• 27 Nov 2008 12:45
shadabalji

If the western people are working in our country (India, Nepal, Philipine) then there also they are getting more salary than us... Everybody knows its wrong...

By XANDRO• 27 Nov 2008 12:45
Rating: 4/5
XANDRO

it depends on the BOSS for sure.

Like for Americans, British and Asian bosses, rate can be different giving filipinos the highest.

For arab bosses, its the arab people getting the highest.

Other than that, the number of years experience, the way you speak and the place where you obtained your degrees/certificates count a lot.

For sure, I am not giving the same salary for the same position without considering the latter. To me it gets more bearing. No matter what nationality you are. Think about that, make the comparison then move on and dont get jealous of the other people's salary, afterall, it was in agreement with you before you started working.

By anonymous• 27 Nov 2008 12:43
anonymous

I am Sri Lankan and Getting more than Indian & Egyptians :)

Most of the Sri Lankans in the Banking Sector are well off. (I am not in the banking sector)

By anonymous• 27 Nov 2008 12:40
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

Because some nationalities have serious difficulties spelling correctly a list of nations.

People are paid according to their ability to perform certain tasks. If you have limited literacy skills, you should expect less pay.

By babba• 27 Nov 2008 12:35
babba

it is not only salary there are many questions like this to be asked. but to whom? this is gulf ...

By Withnail• 27 Nov 2008 12:30
Rating: 5/5
Withnail

this has been covered a lot.

not sure why nepalese are paid more or less than phillipinos in same job - probably has something to do with what they can get at home and who is more desperate, unfortunately.

with regards to westerners/europeans, first it takes more to get them because they can get good paying jobs at home. also, soft skills tend to be better, they have better analytical skills, usually better work experience etc.

people from one country are NOT better than people from an other country, but the truth is that education on average is better in the west, and western companies have better procedures and processes, and so western work experience is more sought after for management positions.

By sxnair• 27 Nov 2008 12:25
Rating: 5/5
sxnair

Sorry, I dont agree with that it depends on Exchange rate, its purely depends on Nationality, the westerns & locals life style is different than the asian, basically the asians are tend to adjust with whatever available, and they spend depends on their income, more over there are many asians are unemployed back home and hard to earn even $100 a month, so the companies or the sponsors are taking that advantage and paying less. However, you can always demand more or in conjunction with other nationalities, if they dont agree don't accept the offer. The choice is always ours. Finally there are no obligations to the company that they should pay everyone as same nor we have any right to ask.

Thanks

By nylashaji• 27 Nov 2008 12:19
nylashaji

depend on the exchange rate?

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