American Girl has questions about Qatar
Hello everyone!
I have recently met a muslim Syrian man who is working in Qatar as a Contractor. We have spoken on the phone and chat daily via instant messenger. We are dating via internet I guess you could say.
He has invited me to visit him in August, when I get my vacation time from work.
I realize that the laws and social expectations are different than in the USA, and I want to be respectful when visiting Qatar.
My main questions/concerns are:
Can he and I be in public together? Can we ride in an automobile together?
The plan is for me to stay in a hotel while in Qatar. Would he or I be arrested or punished if he visited me in my hotel room?
What are the "Do's and Don'ts" of socializing in Qatar?
Anything else you feel I should know?
I do agree with DJones has said.what i do not understand is,why the hell would he fly to where u live??rathere than inviting u here.im sorry to say but u seem so excited about the invite and u r not thinking of the consecquences.yes,lots of things happen in hotels cuz this is a very conservative country not as the US.think think think
I was just in Doha a couple weeks ago and stayed at a very nice hotel. At night I'd see men and women together who were CLEARLY not married and the women were dressed SUPER scandalously. I saw one guy in a business suit escorting 2 young chicks in crazy short dresses to the elevator... don't know if he was going to his room, but no one stopped him.
That said, be very careful! I don't live there yet and don't really know how the place works but God forbid something happened to you in your room... who knows what legal recourse you could seek?!? They'd probably say you brought it on yourself for having him over in the first place... :$
"He cannot do anything bad to her in qatar"? Sun, I beg to disagree. The question is, "Why you as a lady would go to where the man is? And let me stress the fact that the distance to go to this man is thousands of miles a way, even". Of course you point of view that something that goes "Is he a serial killer luring me of a future loving relationship so he could hurt me physically?" may seem as an important factor to think about too..but come on, really?
Bottom line is, I think ETHICS, CONCERNS OF THE HEART, and EMOTIONS are the ones at stake here..
Fara, she said he is footing the bill and perhaps they will meet somewhere else. I can see why he cant go to the US, much easier for him to move about on this side of the world.
you cant paint every picture with the same brush.... my husband is Syrian and I must say from a majority of Damascus men (real Damascus men :)) they have decent intentions. There are jerks everywhere, so yes I agree she should be careful but at the same time who are any of us to tell her not to come? She may be missing out on the love of her life or she may be setting herself up to meet the biggest creeper of all time. She'll never know if she doesnt take a leap.
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I like all your comments on Ijonesk86's issue!
There is nothing wrong about visiting to Qatar, Lady. What is totally worng is you travelling all the way for more than 15 hours to meet a man you met on the inernet?!!!! What are you? A naive American girl?!!! No offense, but I think your Mom must have taught and trained you better than that!
I was lol when I read Master Mas' comment regarding the qestions, you are so funny Master mas! Exactly my thoughts too!!!!
How can you say you have seen all his pictures and hence you know him very well? That you guys have mutual friends?! Are uploaded pics on the internet the best way to judge someone's character?
Dear Ijonesk86, I would advise you like a Sis, do not come and visit this man....something tells me he is married, got kids in Damascus and he needs to "release" his tension! No offense to SYRs but..... run girl! RUN!!! He has promised to foot the bill, isn'it? Why can't he visit you in the US if he truly likes you, as you claim he does? He should be ready to cross all the hurdles regardless of the possibility or impossibility of him obtaining a US Via.
I uderstand how you feel but as a young and smart lady, you should not let your heart think for you right now but your head!
Having said all that, I cannot tell you what to do and not do and so if you have made up your mind to visit him, then I would have to be psychic and tell you that the "meetng-him-cos-I-like-him" won't get you two anywhere, trust me!
Love from a lady who was almost did the same thing! :-)
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"half way somewhere in bahrain".. lol.. wondering, is bahrain "half way" - from WHERE?
also, can you guys validate your point regarding meeting him somewhere in the 'third' country??? Why she should meet him out of Qatar?? At least, in Qatar she IS safe: the guy works here; he needs the Exit permit in order to escape from the country; Qatar is very safe, everything and everyone is under control here; the CID has his fingerprints... why on the earth to send the poor girl to some "third" country where she is unprotected?
can someone explain it to me??
if she LIKED the guy, they will find the way to "express their feelings" to each other, don't worry! but if she didn't like the guy, at least he cannot force her, and he cannot do anything bad to her IN QATAR.. but somewhere in the "third" country?..
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Meet him half way somewhere in bahrain for example.. if he really like you he will travel to meet you.
you guys jelous???
Dagway ai!
OK who is paying for all this?
Make sure he puts his money where his mouth is....
what does he want from you?
potential marriage?
Booty Call?
It is very hot when you are coming.....so meeting somewhere with better weather would be good
let us know when you are coming by PM and if you have any issues just call one of us
Oh someone's getting an American passport in few years :-D...nice job
if you wanna come and hang around going to hotel where ever no body can talk to you about it feel free but not kissing in puplic you can feel free about it
Qatari Sun, I dont think Indians have a bad reputation in Qatar..infact the government consider them as one of the most decent nationals. I presume, you also know that Indians occupy of more than 50% of the whole population in Qatar?! i aint being racist or nationalist as you might doubt,, its just my opinion & some information i loved to share seeing your post...!! :)
for me, its not the nationality that makes a person bad or good,, its a person himself !! Even fingers on the same palm are not the same !
~noms~
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"Before God we are all equally wise ' and equally foolish" - Albert Einstein
i would just stick to answering your initial post here..
You both can be together in public, also can ride in same automobile or even a bullock cart..lol.
he can visit you in hotel, but just ask him to make it in the evenings or atleast late evening in order to avoid the hotel management suspection & having a wrong impression about you..!
micro minis, exposure of undergarments or such types of indecent clothes are not permitted in public..no matter evn if its summer where u feel to walk out naked in this 52degrees. you can very well wear skirts below knees, jeans with any Tshirt or Shirt..! the less cloth u have, the most ppl stare at you & u get more attention from ppl caring wht u doing with your guy.
kissing,fondling or whatever in public is strictly prohibited & it might term to imprisonment..so be careful.!!
~noms~
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"Before God we are all equally wise ' and equally foolish" - Albert Einstein
It is difficult to know someone that you have met on the internet, if you come here willingly to meet this guy and he turns out to be a bad guy, rapist or whatever,,,you will not be looked upon sympathetically, my suggestion to you would be to get him to meet you in the U.S. first. He could be very nice and respectable but the previous comments are correct, you are not going to gain respect by flying over here to meet him, that is like every internet daters dream....think about it...or bring your dad/brother, just like a Syrian/Qatari girl would do.
ljones
How did the conversation with him go?
You know, cynbob's story has quite a good point.
Hmmm - This place is safe.. . . qatar is good...
Not like Typical Gulf image we have.....
And if you know what you are doin .. . . jus go ahead....
How is the place should be the least of your concern.....
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Voldemort, you are nationalist.. . And I hate nationalism .. would you like to hear "Indians have a bad reputation here? they are all idiots and full nuts"... do you like it?
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i guess desperation makes us do silly things.
i hope you've showed him the goods.
UKeng - and have a session at the jumeira beach?? lol
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I will take it all into consideration. At this time my friend and I have decided to post pone my trip to a better time.
In the mean time, I will continue to research Qatar, as well as get to know my friend better.
Ohh ya CYN bob ... its the main point....
thanks for giving me points #1, #2, #3..you are a real gem...and you can have #9 :);)
About being questioned about nationality, some of my Indian friends have been questioned when they went out with their Filipina girl friends..
I have worked/travelled everywhere in the GCC,and in the region..I believe what I am said is true, and I stick to it..
At least American girl was smart enough to search for a qatari expat forum, and post her questions on it..I think she can take her of herself..
and QatariSun, God bless you..
...Avada Kedavra..
I dont think she will have a problem with visa on arrival, I never did when I was in my 20's and single.
I forgot about Ramadan. Has your friend not mentioned this to you? Ask him he may ask you to postpone.
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Majnoon...I have friends who know this man, I have seen him on Web Cam, and spoken to him on the phone. I have seen multiple pictures, checked out his Facebook .
I have no intention of sleeping with the man...what I meant by him visiting me in the hotel...in America its common for a man and woman to watch a movie, talk, hang out, etc. I didn't know if that would be appropriate or not.
A couple of things to consider:
If you are coming in August during Ramadan, you and your friend will have to make plans to go out in the evening. Most everything is closed until dusk during Ramadan. Not to mention, it is hotter than hell here and it is the worse month to visit.
If you are younger than 30 and single, you may have a problem getting a visa to enter Qatar. Research that---
I have a very good friend who met a man from Syria three years ago on line.
They became very "involved" via web camera; messenger; daily phone calls; etc.
They first met in Europe and then in India. They wanted to be free to date and get to know each other.
They fell in love. In those 3 years they have been "together" for a total of 2 weeks.
Now, after 3 years and numerous interviews; red tape; filing of paperwork; etc., he has been granted a visa to come into the United States.
Meanwhile, my friend, has been waiting; hoping and praying that they would have a life together.
For 3 years, she has put her life on "hold" for this man.
In hind sight, she would not have met him initially.
My suggestion is to find someone in the US. It is very difficult to have a relationship that is being tested by distance; religious and culture differences.
this is being misconstrued or at least in my opinion. First off the only thing religion has do with this whole conversation is due to what is or isn't acceptable. As far as race, ethnicity etc. it doesn't matter to me if he is a Martian, American, Arab or another woman and it doesn't matter what country this takes place except once again acceptability. If this was a tryst from Boston to New York I would still be worried for the safety of this person especially nowadays and I think that it what concerns most people here... some of us just express ourselves differently.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and say the opposite
Nisar she doesnt have to convert to Islam, Muslim men can marry Christian women.
Who says he is a religious guy anyway?
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
Hi,
First I want to say, for the most part Qatar is a very nice place for someone to visit and for the most part people are kind and respectful. BUT I must make sure you understand that there are many men here who will assume that because you are American you are loose and easy. Believe me, I have had offers from men of telephone numbers and hotel rooms (none of which I accepted!) even while I was pregnant and/or carrying around small children! Some men here do not have any real experience with American women, therefore assume that we all act like the women in the movies (i.e. jump into bed within the first couple hours).
I suggest that even if you think you know this man very well, a mere invitation into your hotel room (even if "only" for a movie) will be assumed to be much, much more. I recommend that you only meet him in public, even better, with those mutual friends you have. If he is in public, you can get to know him and he will be sure to treat you appropriately. It is fine to go out in public with a man here so I recommend you keep it as public as possible. In public he will be respectful, in private there is no guarantee. In general, Muslim women are out of reach for Muslim men before marriage, so American women are seen as an easy alternative in the interim.
Yes, I am generalizing. BUT, since you do not know this part of the world from personal experience you MUST be extremely careful. Dating in Doha is NOTHING like dating in the US.
is right and there is a difference between tolerated and accepted/illegal. You can lead a camel to water but you can't make him drink.
It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and say the opposite
Dear Friend, i have readed all the Answers, So i thought that .......
If u r Serious / interested in ur relationship with him.. then
1. Convert into Islam
2. Marry with him
After all procedure u MET with him or hang out, no any suggestion or problem that create for you .....
Amoud: He has offered to pay for everything...I wouldn't get on an airplane unless I have proof that everything has been paid for, such as my airline ticket, hotel, etc.
And its not set in stone that I visit him in Qatar, we are discussing meeting somewhere else, or him possibly coming to me in america...it just depends on what would be the easiest way.
Guys she's not going to listen to any of your advice, she wanted to know if it was ok to be in a car with him etc. (which shows you how much research she's done on the region and it's people) she "knows" him and when she gets here she'll find out exactly what he wants from her.
Agree you brits keep Dubai us colonials will take Abu Dhabi.
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A wise young crackpot knows no fear - Ian Dury.
NO! Dubai is only for us Brits to bugger about in.. Let the Americans find their own place..
Go to Dubai, thats where all the Brits go on their dates..:)
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Americans cant get a visa on arrival in Syria but they can get it from the embassy in DC via courier.
Syrians getting US Visas is very difficult even for tourism.
Heck they could even meet in Lebanon, it is only an hour or so drive from Damascus.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
If she is from US very hard I think to get into Syria, not like Canadians. Far better suggestion as many QLers have done above is he goes to her. Speaking as a guy who has lived here and in the Med there is just something wrong, wrong wrong about all of this.
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A wise young crackpot knows no fear - Ian Dury.
Well said.. It would be better to meet at a "neutral" venue and get to know each other.
It is obvious she has very little experience with men in these parts and seems she will find it all out on her own.
ljones, I am North American married to a Syrian and I will tell you one thing... arab men in general like a bit of a chase when it comes to women, and you jetting half way cross the planet "just to meet" is hardly a slow crawl, forget a chase. Anyman who will just sit back and let you do this without making an effort doesnt respect you.
I will also assume 100% you are going to foot the bill for the whole trip. Dont be surprised if he offered and once you get here he has some "family crisis" and cant pay but will pay you later. Any man thats serious about you, and I understand he wants you here as a visa for him is difficult but he should be paying. Also dont be surprised if a month or so before you are supposed to leave it all goes to pot as he realizes you are really going to come.
Why dont you meet him in Syria? If he has decent intentions then he will have no issue with it and it will show a little effort on his part.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
Master_Mas:
I am 23 years old, and no I am not blonde, I am a brunette. :)
Why don't YOU invite him over your place? You'll see if he's still that interested in you...
Ok this is the biggest & the best advice of your life. As you are mature American girl, u must know that online dating is always abit doubtful, plenty lies & looks unreal. Above that, you are traveling thousands of miles to meet someone you never met before. Thats unsafe no matter where you are traveling. Ok now about Qatar,
If he comes to see you in your hotel room, you both are in BIG trouble. If you go see him at his place, you both are in trouble. Showing love & affection in Public, Big trouble. You are coming here in a weather which is hot as hell, you think you can cover yourself according to the rules here everytime you go out? Be prepared to stared by every men in a very vulgar manner specially on road & malls. There is many more things to write which you may regret after coming over here to meet a stranger. But personally i think, its a man's thing to travel & meet his woman or girl. Not the other way around. After reading all that if you have still decided to come over, i'll just tell you to please be very careful. Goodluck
I have just re-read the Voldemort’s post.. I am pretty sure Majnoon Ajnabi kept him in mind while numbering his points about being IDIOT...
marycatherine, who made the statistical research? where these “less than 1%“ came from? You say “I've seen a lot of bad relationships in 8 years in the GCC (and not just muslim men with western women sadly)”.. I would add, and not just in 8 years, and not just in GCC.. and it has NOTHING to do with the girl’s case!! When the couple starts the relationship, they don’t know whether it will be good or bad.. this statement is irrelevant to the topic of this thread...
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ljonesks - ignore those calling you an idiot. Your questions are valid and it's good you're looking into these issues before your visit. I hope you can filter out the sensible answers above from the crap.
QL manager....most proactively, idealistically compatible and answering sensibly.....Yep Smokey!
Qatar is a beautiful country...with deadly hot climate. Welcome to Qatar and All the best for internet dating!
Qatar is the safest place for tourist!.but its really damn summer hot!.easily can toast your brain in a minute.
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You can't teach experience...
what the hell u guys r jealous about....?
let that Syrian guy have his fun..
if they get caught doin anything... both will be thrown out of the country and can never come back in again....
ok. Ms. American Girl. i have two questions before i judge u. ok.
1. how old r u..?
2. are you blonde.? no offense.
holy molly....looks like a boy and a girl never went out on a date in qatar......Guys don't try and scare her.
Abt getting a room in the hotel i suggest you to go for some reputed hotels like Four seasons/Ritz/Marriot etc....other than staying in cheap hotels where u often find CIDs outside ......im sure the contractor can afford a room i suggest both of you to check-in seperately in two different rooms to avoid any problems.
Have a Blast.....
Aana free, jaana free,
Pakde gaye tho khana free.
just follow your instinct! It's 50/50. You may enjoy yourself or enjoy yourself in distress! Lol!!!
........tsk! tsk! tsk! Ganun pala nangyari sa miting ng mga Heneral!!!!!!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
Exactly QS thats what i've been trying to tell these people here :p Stop feeding her wrong advice.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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everybody here,
See #1,3 and 7 by Majnoon Ajnabi, they may also apply to most of you.
Stone Cold, I am sorry... but that would be the silliest suggestion ever! At least in Qatar she is much more safe than in any other "third neutral country".
..I am not sure which perspective you are guys talking from... if you guys mean 'hanging out with the opposite sex is prohibited in Qatar', this is a BS, sorry...As I said, all bars and all concert halls, and all Galleries and Museums and Movie theatres are full with the mixed couples and groups.. I don't really see any problem here whatsoever..
If you guys are talking about the girl’s safety, Qatar is very safe country… Why you all guys are so desperate for QLSG gathering, and want to meet “new people”? why you don’t think about any danger or trap, or “opposite sex” issues?? What’s the difference if one came from USA, Sri Lanka, Honolulu.. to meet new people??
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
i apologized for the stupidity of some viewers of qatar living.com
if u have good intentions of visiting Doha, Qatar & the guy whom u wanted to visit, well then its fine. i know that u know abt the culture of muslims, correct? if not, u must be aware of that first before making ur plans possible. though qatar is a semi-open country in gulf, still there are limitations that is implemented including clothing and public display of affection (PDA).
if u wanted to know more abt Doha, just send me private message, alright!
I would suggest that both of you fly out to a third neutral country as tourist and for a date like, Bali in Indonesia, Langkawi in Malaysia etc..etc.. where there is peace, law is relax, people are friendly, the romance atmosphere is there and where you can almost do anything a lover can do. Should you still insist dating in Qatar then try to excise extra care since it is a very strict islamic country, and you know what I mean.
ljonesks86 I guess searching would have helped...as this question is often repeated.
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See #1,3 and 7 / by Majnoon Ajnabi .
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are you guys crazy??
panda, WHAT's wrong with SYRIAN men? How syrian man is worse than the algerian one?
Voldemort, what kind of question could be raised about outing with "different nationality"?? Go to Irish harp, all "different nationalities" hanging out together.. no one question has been raised..noone got killed or raped so far either...
ljonesks86 , don't listen to them! Qatar is very safe country. No one "syrian contractor" would ever think about getting you into trap.. what for?? I am just wondering, what all these people who is 'warning' you are having on their mind?
...The only ‘trap’ he prepares for you is definitely to marry you… :):)
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good mornig friends
go to your room, change into something from Fredrick's of Hollywood or Victoria's Secrets and then sneak across the parking and surprise him.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
if you are going to get a room, try the Sheraton Hotel. At the back of this hotel there is a parking lot, tell him to use this parking and wait. Now YOU, as an american can go and get a room at the reception. show youre passport and the nice receptionist will just simply say "Hows youre travel ma'am?". Youre blue passport is enough to tell them mind youre own business! Then call youre friend waiting at the parking lot, tell him youre room number and which floor you are.
http://www.sheraton-doha.com/
If it went wrong and you needed the help of the Police, I am not sure how sympathetic they would be. I do not agree that this is a strict Muslim country, it is liberal and tolerant and many people manage to have relationships discreetly without causing offence. I just wonder if meeting up with a man you met on the internet may be a bridge too far.
When I first left my home country and came here I trusted everyone and always gave people the benefit of the doubt. Now? Although I feel far safer here than the UK, I do NOT trust people I don't know and have a very different view of men in general. They don't need to touch you, you can feel totally violated by the way some of them look at you. This is a tough place for a woman alone, particularly a Western woman who is a bit naive, you could end up in real trouble.
At least bring a friend.
As long as you refrain from public displays of affection outside of the hotels then you'll be fine. The hotels (at least the big chain ones) are pretty much do as you please zones, so he can visit you, you can have a drink, go to dinner, hold hands, whatever. Outside of the hotels you can do all the same with the exception of drink and hold hands.
What happened to intercaste marriages?
LOL looks like this is the first intercaste boy meet girl thing by the way you all are dishing advices.
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simply.... ask him!!!
This might not be the best of idea for the following reasons
1. You being around in public with a person who is obviously of a different nationality , can raise questions. Believe me, it has happened before. You CAN be arrested.
2. You do not know the man. If you know people of his nationality as well as I do, you would be careful. He might be married, he might be using you to get US citizenship, anything is possible this part of the world.
3. The man is a Muslim, and if both of you are caught in a hotel room together, it can be deemed adultery, especially if he turns out to be married.
4. If he is not able to get a US visa, there is something wrong with him. If he can show a solid bank balance and job, then he can get the visa easily from here.
5. People from his country have a bad reputation in this region, that is why so many people are advising you not to go for it. Just think, why should so many people react so vehemently to your question..bcoz we have seen this story happen here before..Man belonging to this part of the world meets Western girl through internet/ she flies in to meet him/he steals her money and passport her money or worse,assaults her/or maybe she marries him to find out she is one of his many wives etc etc..
Please spend some time checking out similar stories from the internet..Google may end up saving your life..
6.I guess you have not visited this part of the world before.. it is not like what you think it is, it is not Afganistan under Taliban, but it is not the US also...
So think, think and think again times before you get on that flight...
...Avada Kedavra..
hehehe Oh well i have nothing more to contribute to this topic so to each his own. :)
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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Are you serious? If he ever lets you leave...it will be after many, many nefarious activities...
I have to agree with the poster who said "you're an idiot"!!
"Don't intend on sleeping with the dude"? You're gonna get filled out like an application, by him and half (all) his friends.
Have fun. Moron.
LOL. Yes Smoke, with your earliest posts to the query..you do read like the Syrian guy she's going to rendezvous with. Hey hey, let's type maturely now and not call names like idiots and stupid.
your name must be referring to cannabis..... spend a couple thousand riyals, have late night rendevous illegaly in hotel room and mafi hank-panky???? don't bogart that joint my friend pass it over to me lol.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
Syrian! mmmm...be carefull girl!
if you do this.... I wish you the best of luck and happiness, but please leave information about your trip with a friend or family member in case something happens.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
Majnoon your right buddy its NOT acceptable, however its not like its not being done in Qatar. She just needs to be careful and not show that they are meeting for some hanky panky stuff. Besides relax its just a 2 week visit.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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problem let's move onto to world peace...... damn we're smart.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
I don't think the young lady wanted to know if you can sneak in and out of hotel rooms, I believe she wants to know if it is proper and acceptable. To the best of my knowledge it is NOT in Qatar, whether you, I or anyone else agrees with it or not.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
@marycatherine
that seems to be an eloquent and helpful post for ljones. the advice about the grounds of the trip..we both share, i've told her that too. i suggested they meet halfway, have their vacation/eyeball date somewhere would be rather better..also then the guy could exert real effort for her and not just fly her in while he suggests to pay for her plane ticket going to Doha.
ljones, when you get to back from that talk with him, let me stress and remind you again.."Also this way, you'll know if he's really into you, morever, that being able to meet each other was an effort by the two of you..not just you, who's the lady. You should'nt let him take advantage of the fact that he can't enter US as easy as u can enter Qatar, and have you do all the work to make this relationship that you two have be a better meaningful one."
Nice to know you like catching men's balls, do you provide other special services too?
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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@gazmo
Cocoa? Hmmm..reads good. May it be cocoa or tea..I'm just not a very big fan of Coffee. I try to avoid it as much as i can. Done from office? In Japan we say, "otsukaresamadeshita" when you're done with work.
What did you mean by decorators?
Hmmm wow Sherlock Shaine how did you catch me?
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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ljonesks86 said "I have recently met a muslim Syrian man who is working in Qatar as a Contractor".
Does she need to be told by QLers what to do and what not.. is the man not capable of taking care of even this much??????...just a thought.
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Huh? I've had a friend who is a girl come stay over in Qatar and have spent most of my time in her room no questions asked. You dont have to even go to the reception, if you know the room no. and I assume he will be knowing it. Just to be on the safe side let him not come to the room too late in the nights, as u said your not here to do nasty things :p
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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i go with majnoon's #1,#3 & #7
Shaine, what business is it of ours who she wants to meet and why does she have to be of the same religion? Whats wrong with Syrian men? No woman would travel half way across the globe to meet some guy she was not atleast 98% sure was a good guy. Yes you can never judge people by what they say over the internet but then you just have to take risks in life to find happiness.
On the bright side ljonesks, Qatar is a very safe place to be in, and a man cant take "advantage" of you. See that you go to public places for your meetings and see how he behaves. Ask to meet his friends too :)
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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1. yes you can wear makeup
2. clothing - covers shoulders, preferably to elbows, and to the knees. Not too tight or see through
3. I would be surprised if the hotel permitted him to visit your room - but I wouldn't be surprised if CID were called if he did visit your room
4. To be honest, I think this trip is not a good idea. I've seen many relationships between western women and muslim men - less than 1% have been successful in any sense of the word. In effect, a lot were attempts by the man to get landed immigrant status in the western country. Not saying this is his motive, but I've seen a lot of bad relationships in 8 years in the GCC (and not just muslim men with western women sadly)
5. I'd recommend he visit you in the US if you're determined to meet - the hurdles he'd have to jump through to get a visa would indicate how serious HE is about seeing you.
Seeing him on a web cam and chatting/talking by internet/phone is a very different thing that travelling 6000 miles to a muslim country to meet him.
Signature line > "You can't fix stupid"
But you can fix ignorance..which at times makes you look stupid. So in a way, you can fix stupid. I know a certain stupid here whom you just CAN NEVER be able to fix-- Jackfrost. But that's a whole new story. Let's not hijack this thread.
5 in the morning here and about to go home from the office!
Lovely dawn, a bit chilly but look set for a cracking day, looking forward to my cocoa and bed.
'Have a nice day y'all' (as they say across the pond).
Hope the decorators aren't too long SenyOrita.
Ignorance is bliss
Signature line > "You can't fix stupid"
Apology accepted. Now we can make out and make interracial kids...
I've been cranky and sarcastic coz I'm having the visit. Oops..too much information.
7 in the morning and already in the office? Coffee is overrated..try what I have to jump start my day..Tea! Some specific teas healthly boosts u up while calming your senses unlike the effects of coffee.
Aww i didnt know you'd be so sensitive about it either, now everyone be cool, dont move and no body gets hurt. :p
I think i'm sarcastic when i wake up and dont have my coffee, I'm in office now and coffee is on the way :) sorry Seny0rita :)meow meow.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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@smoke
Goodness, I didnt know you could be so sensitive. That easy and i'm in your book already? Relax, that was a joke..Just coz there was no LOL, it doesnt mean I was being rude. Just because you're one of the boys don't mean you're the only one who can give bashing sarcastic remarks. Hey, hey..don't label me an idiot. Careful now.
You know, I would rather be very catty with you about that last post you wrote but I already have jackfrost hitting my nerves for today.
@ljones
Wish you the best on that trip!
Seny0rita, I will definately let you guys know how the discussion of meeting in a different location goes. I will chat with him tomorrow(well, later today for you guys lol)
Well with that statement you just joined the "idiot" club in my books.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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@smoke
yes, i know him..we've banged some decades ago. you must be my son.
it's not senyotira, by the way. watch your typo, son..i might be your mother!
Yes majnoon its very much permitted, coz when a western woman says man visiting me in hotel you guys automatically think SEX! WTF? Cant a guy go visit a friend?
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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@ ljones
Air fares almost don't mean a thing now for they have become cheap recently, have'nt they-- unless he's flying you in first class, well girl that's a whole new ball game. :)
Seriously now, you want to see real effort from the guy. So yeah, suggest that "meeting half way" idea to him, let's see what he has to say about it.
Oh and by the way, no..Doha is not hell. Whoever said that is an idiot. No pun intendend.
Yes, you can go out on dates..but that's not my point of these line of posts of advice for you. Wish you the best!
No Senyotira i was definitely not calling YOU an idiot rather those two who posted all crap above lol i didnt see your posts until i posted mine :p
Mr. Smoke? you know my dad too? lol
Anyways regarding what you should wear the safest thing you could wear in Qatar are jeans and a t-shirt. If your going out for fancy dining then try to wear something not too cleavage revealing coz seems like most men here have never seen cleavage before :p Short skirts mini skirts are not allowed in public malls and even in the freaking pubs which I think is just stupid. Make up is very much permissible here, seriously some women should just be jailed for the amount of make up they throw on their face. Anything else?
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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hotel visitations of Muslim man with non-Muslim, non-married woman (at least not to him) is OK?
How about Muslim woman and non-Muslim man?
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
Thank you Smoke for your insight. So basically public affection is out of the question, but we can do activities together in public, have dinner, etc.
Another question I had...is there any sort of clothing I shouldn't wear when in Qatar? Is makeup permissable? I'm not trying to seem idiotic, I really just don't know what is accepted.
Mr. Smoke, I REFUSE to be called an idiot. Was that addressed to me. I hope not.
Seny0rita: I will discuss that option with him, of meeting in a different country, that is a good idea.
He has offered to pay for my trip to Qatar, so although I'd be traveling, he would be footing the bill for it.
LOL Woman!! Stop listening to these IDIOTS!! This is Qatar not HELL!
First of all trust yourself, if you know this man is a good man etc etc and u know your own motives for visiting him then get your arse over here without any worries. About the hotel, YES you can stay in a hotel and YES he is allowed to visit you any time of the day or NIGHT. You are allowed to travel in cars, camels, horses etc together. You guys can go to a bar together, movies anything you want without any worries.
What you are NOT allowed to do is kiss in public, or "make out" in the car etc etc, leave all that for closed doors. Behave decently in public. Thats all you need to worry about :)
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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Here's a suggestion..why not rendezvous in a different country, pressumable one that is half way the two of you.
You see, Qatar is pretty restricted in some ways..you may not fully enjoy your stay even if it means being with him. I read you plan to stay in Doha for a couple of weeks if it presents as an option for you to know him better, am i correct? Well, you're just wasting your weeks coz i take it that he'll be working in that period of time. Give it a little more thought..you'll realize what I'm trying to say.
Also this way, you'll know if he's really into you, morever, that being able to meet each other was an effort by the two of you..not just you, who's the lady. You shouldnt let him take advantage of the fact that he can't enter US as easy as u can enter Qatar, and have you do all the work to make this relationship that you two have be a better meaningful one.
Seny0rita: Thank you. I realize now that maybe I should have thought out a bit more what I wrote in my initial post, so it didn't seem like I was planning on visiting for a booty call.
We have discussed him visiting me in the USA, and that is an option as well instead of me coming to Qatar in August, but we both had concerns of how difficult it would be for him to visit the USA...since he is a Syrian citizen and Muslim...neither one of us knew how easily he would be let in to the country. This is something we are both researching.
it would have been better if your statement was something like "i would like to go on a tour to qatar and maybe also, while i'm already there-- hook up with this guy who lives in doha who ive been talking to over the internet", then go with your concerns. maybe you'd get less bashing answers to your query in the coming days.
you see, it reads as if you're flying in all the way from US for a booty call. QLers will be a little hostile at you. (by the way, if you really are just flying in to meet this man, in my opinion from one woman to another [i know this is not one of your main concerns but..]-- it's not worth it. that's just me. why not have him visit you there instead? just a thought.) good luck!
That was the whole point of me coming to this website, to learn the proper behavior and to ask questions from people who are from or live in Qatar.
I appreciate your concern....I do have many friends via the internet, as well as in real life. Many of those internet friends I have met in person. This particular man knows several of my friends...thats how we "met" online.
I'm not saying I'm going to jump in the car with this man when I first see him in person, obviously I would be smart about things before doing so, but I had planned to stay a few weeks in Qatar, and I figure after several days of being together in person, I would feel comfortable riding in a car with him, if its a permissable thing to do in Qatar.
I am not hateful... I am scared for your life and well being and you obviously don't have enough sense to be careful for yourself. You appear to rely heavily on the internet for you information and friends. I suggest you use the same resources for reading up on the proper behavior of single persons in an Islamic country.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
Thank you Goaboy.
this is not america so regarding the hotel a big no no and his place a big no no
you can be in public together and ride in same car together thats ok but public showing of affection should not be shown in public
The purpose of me visiting is not to sit in a motel room watching a movie...you are twisting my words.
I like this man. He and I intend on getting to know one another, meeting in person, and seeing where the relationship goes from there.
I am not an idiot, and do not appreciate you being so hateful towards me.
I simply was asking what is/isn't allowed in Qatar in regards to men and women interaction, how I should act, etc.
I'm sorry but I can't imagine anyone spending a few thousand dollars to fly 20+ hours so they can sit in a $500 per night hotel to watch a movie with a person they do not know. See #1,3 and 7 above.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
stop tellling people you are an American.. we have a bad enough reputatiom as it is and you aren't helping.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
I realize I need to be careful, since I've met him online. However, he has known one of my good online friends(who I've known for 4 years) for a couple of years atleast.
I will of course be cautious when first meeting him.
I simply just need to know how to act/behave when in Qatar, because I do not want to offend the locals.
kidding!! But what the heck I'll bite.
#1 you're an idiot
#2 unless you are married opposite sexes are not supposed to be together but the Qataris are lax with westerners.
#3 you're an idiot
#4 This man's brothers and friends may welcome you but I doubt his wife/wives will.
#5 you're an idiot
#6 You are taking an extreme risk with your safety
#7 You're an idiot
#8 You obviously don't have a clue as to this man's/boy's age if you have not physically met him.
#9 I suggest you stayhome until you get some brains and common sense.
“A lot of the people who keep a gun at home for safety are the same ones who refuse to wear a seat belt”
is up to you
he may sound nice on the net but maybe he may want something you know what from you when you come here so plz becareful warning you in advance so you are prepared and remember this is a strict muslim country so be smart
Do you mean come to Qatar for a visit at my own risk? Why?
I really like this man, and I hope you didn't assume from my initial post that this is some dirty, sordid thing because it is not.
if anything bad happens dont blame anyone but yourself