Why is it so hard to find qualified - certified British instructors of English Language in Qatar! Are they really few? How can I get in touch with them? Any social clubs that they might meet at in town?
"all British" can hardly speak English let alone teach it...a posh Brit accent DOTH NOT a language make...want a real English teacher?...Get an Indian educated @ home in the English medium & who has some language teaching education/experience to boot & you're good to go...
Please remember English is a very new language, relatively speaking, only about 700 years old only and constantly evolving. In that time many different dialects and usuages have evolved and people within the original island of Great Britain can have difficulty understanding "English" as spoken by other groups. Geographical distance resulted in varying uses of English in North America, India (Hinglish), Australia (Strine)often virtually unintelligible to some of the original English speakers. This is what happened to Latin which degenerated into multiple languages as the Roman Empire died, many of these cannot be understood by the average person who speaks French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Catalan etc.
The hope is that with the internet and modern comms that an internationally agreed system will arise. But when English people in England have changed their everyday use of English by dropping the T in words like Sco-land and omitting the R sound in words like number Pronounced Numbah, who can teach who 'ow to talk proper?
I agree that teaching is a skill. Being able to speak a language doesn't make you a good teacher. I am a translator, and in the same way translation is a skill - and training and experience are required in order to hone that skill.
I can use a computer..........but that doesn't make me a web designer. In the same way, speaking a language and being able to teach it/translate into it are not the same thing.
Let us put it this way; you want to learn The Arabic Language because you intend to go live in Egypt for considerable time, and we at our Centre are providing two Arabic courses, one is written by a Syrian author and delivered by a Qualified Syrian instructor, the other is written by an Egyptian author and delivered by a Qualified Egyptian instructor, provided same fee & same period for each, which one will you go for?
Bluemountain is right! Teaching and speaking are different . May be a native speaker could teach you to an extend, but to an extend only. Teaching involves using prudence and discernment in going straight in to the students heart. It needs skills as well as practice to be in a position to teach..
i understand PM.... thanx for clearing my doubts...
just given an example of those guys(pierce & david)... although they are not an icons for me...!!
however, u should accept now that there is difference between both american & british english ... in lieu of writing only.... not pronounciation... i myself prefer to speak english in amercian axent..and in writen too!!
If you take the World population, who are the BEST English Teachers , but "NOT" orignating countries like UK, US, Australia, .... You will find the INDIANS are the best English teachers, though they come from a country ,where English is not the mother tongue
Dont just argues,, see the teaching community in foreign univrsities in UK, US, AUs, Japan, Kenya to Vanavu Islands....
Americans have some different spellings that are considered the proper spelling in our English. So if I wrote "tyre" for an American professor they would consider it spelled incorrectly. On the other hand, if I wrote "tire" for a British professor they might count it as correct since I am American and that is the way we are taught to spell it properly. They might also say it is misspelled, because they may expect me to conform to British spellings.
And just so you know: "foto" is not correct in either British or American English -- except as slang.
Lastly, Pierce may drink -- but he never appears to be drunk on he show like David Hasselhoff. I also suspect he has a much better educational background. Why on earth would you base such a comparison of language on two men on "America's Got Talent"????
To be professional in any field and to TEACH, to raise rge professionals is not the same. Simple as that. You have to possess special knowledge, you have to know techniques, methods and tools, you have to know the curriculum, you have to be able to explain clearly, and much more things…
most of people don't even speak properly their own language, let alone knowing grammar, having a clue about certain language rules, etc....
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i see tv programme 'america's got talent' on weekends and thats my favourite one... the thing i noticed much the way of conversation between pierce and David... haven't you notice...?
ok, tell me which one is correct... programme or program... i would like you to clear my doubts regarding English...
PM..... good question.... i prefer to answer it with silence:-)
rezymalik..... sorry to interrupt your "serious" discussion.. :-D,, but also note that i was trying to relate to this discussion, which you dint understand.;-)
It is indeed a huge responsibility to teach, especially when speaking academic standards.
Obviously when you want to learn The American English you'll seek certified Americans, same for The British English, its not about who can speak or spell it grammatically correct or not, thats another issue, controversial throughout history..
However, I wonder where you got the idea that Americans speak some kind of ungrammatical "free English" and that the British are the only ones who speak proper English. After all, as an Asian I am sure you have had much more exposure to "British English" than "American English". Thus I would suggest your greatest English language influences have come from the British and that doesn't show them in a very good light, I am afraid. :-(
i dont speak very good english... i accept... nor i have taken any english spoken course... being worlds first language... we use to speak it...when we don't have anyother option...
and i m not a part of the part... i got angry upon qatarisun comments only...!!
And let's just say I had excellent teachers and believe in the sanctity of language, including proper spelling, grammar, sentence structure and vocabulary. :-P
I find it amusing you said Americans can't spell and yet you presumably were taught by so-called "Britishers" (which I believe is an Asian term and not typically used by the British people).
Do not mix talking English and teaching the language. I am sure most of us know our native language and cannot teach it.
Teaching a language is a responsibility, specially when it comes to teaching small children. It is not all about alphabets and grammar. It is also about pronunciation, building vocabulary, precise usage of grammar and comprehension.
In fact, it was drilled into me during my education and I went to free public schools. Unfortunately this decline in proper English that you seem to ascribe to Americans, is a global crises. You'll find it being promoted by the youth of the US, UK, Asia and the rest of the world, through "text lingo" and "chat-speak".
By the way you are wrong about "foto". We are taught "photo", too. Unfortunately some young people think it's cool (or "kool") to write "foto".
are you fighting for neighbourhood? ops, than this is a wrong thread for you.. this post is about whether ALL brits can teach english or only those who certified as teachers...
fighting for neighbourhood.. sounds like some different topic, man... as well as bringing the "american english" into this thread...
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
yes, coz its their mother tongue... and they use to speak with grammer, britishers are more bright and Able than americans.... americans speaks free english... without any grammer...slang....
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"all British" can hardly speak English let alone teach it...a posh Brit accent DOTH NOT a language make...want a real English teacher?...Get an Indian educated @ home in the English medium & who has some language teaching education/experience to boot & you're good to go...
Or as we say in Wales Corcaoich - 'if you can't talk tidy, don't talk at all.' :)
Please remember English is a very new language, relatively speaking, only about 700 years old only and constantly evolving. In that time many different dialects and usuages have evolved and people within the original island of Great Britain can have difficulty understanding "English" as spoken by other groups. Geographical distance resulted in varying uses of English in North America, India (Hinglish), Australia (Strine)often virtually unintelligible to some of the original English speakers. This is what happened to Latin which degenerated into multiple languages as the Roman Empire died, many of these cannot be understood by the average person who speaks French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Catalan etc.
The hope is that with the internet and modern comms that an internationally agreed system will arise. But when English people in England have changed their everyday use of English by dropping the T in words like Sco-land and omitting the R sound in words like number Pronounced Numbah, who can teach who 'ow to talk proper?
to the point mrs.timebandit..nice :)
---If you can't CONVINCE 'em, CONFUSE 'em!!!
I agree that teaching is a skill. Being able to speak a language doesn't make you a good teacher. I am a translator, and in the same way translation is a skill - and training and experience are required in order to hone that skill.
I can use a computer..........but that doesn't make me a web designer. In the same way, speaking a language and being able to teach it/translate into it are not the same thing.
Let us put it this way; you want to learn The Arabic Language because you intend to go live in Egypt for considerable time, and we at our Centre are providing two Arabic courses, one is written by a Syrian author and delivered by a Qualified Syrian instructor, the other is written by an Egyptian author and delivered by a Qualified Egyptian instructor, provided same fee & same period for each, which one will you go for?
many asians can and do teach British English. But very ofew of them are able to teach American English. Why is that?
Bluemountain is right! Teaching and speaking are different . May be a native speaker could teach you to an extend, but to an extend only. Teaching involves using prudence and discernment in going straight in to the students heart. It needs skills as well as practice to be in a position to teach..
---If you can't CONVINCE 'em, CONFUSE 'em!!!
i don't care about u qatarisun... barking dog's never bite...!!!
"...to speak english in amercian axent..and in writen too!!" ???
what was it??
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
i understand PM.... thanx for clearing my doubts...
just given an example of those guys(pierce & david)... although they are not an icons for me...!!
however, u should accept now that there is difference between both american & british english ... in lieu of writing only.... not pronounciation... i myself prefer to speak english in amercian axent..and in writen too!!
Funny enough: Joseph Conrad (born Józef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski) was a Polish-born British novelist, who in 1886 became a British subject.
He is regarded as one of the greatest novelists in English. It's better to teach English when your mother tongue is not English!
"Love Me Tender"
(Elvis Presley and Vera Matson)
Not all people from England talk good English.
If you take the World population, who are the BEST English Teachers , but "NOT" orignating countries like UK, US, Australia, .... You will find the INDIANS are the best English teachers, though they come from a country ,where English is not the mother tongue
Dont just argues,, see the teaching community in foreign univrsities in UK, US, AUs, Japan, Kenya to Vanavu Islands....
what I have written. :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
you're right MD. lets just leave them alone
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
This thread ain't going nowhere, noway!
"Love Me Tender"
(Elvis Presley and Vera Matson)
Sure ntropy. As a Canadian "perineum paramedic" it is pretty clear you know all about the English language! lol
Wink!
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Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business.
Americans have some different spellings that are considered the proper spelling in our English. So if I wrote "tyre" for an American professor they would consider it spelled incorrectly. On the other hand, if I wrote "tire" for a British professor they might count it as correct since I am American and that is the way we are taught to spell it properly. They might also say it is misspelled, because they may expect me to conform to British spellings.
And just so you know: "foto" is not correct in either British or American English -- except as slang.
Lastly, Pierce may drink -- but he never appears to be drunk on he show like David Hasselhoff. I also suspect he has a much better educational background. Why on earth would you base such a comparison of language on two men on "America's Got Talent"????
lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
To be professional in any field and to TEACH, to raise rge professionals is not the same. Simple as that. You have to possess special knowledge, you have to know techniques, methods and tools, you have to know the curriculum, you have to be able to explain clearly, and much more things…
most of people don't even speak properly their own language, let alone knowing grammar, having a clue about certain language rules, etc....
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
where u r? not interested to reply me.....lol
thanx rein to make that clear ....
rezy, both are correct..
favorite is the american english and favourite is the british english
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
u mean to say ... pierce dont drink...or britishmen dont drink...
ok... it clear to me...
tell me which one is correct...? favorite or favourite?
but your wit is lost on poor rezymalik :-)
He is drunk half of the time! lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
i think he meant that americans sometimes speaks colloquial english..
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
i see tv programme 'america's got talent' on weekends and thats my favourite one... the thing i noticed much the way of conversation between pierce and David... haven't you notice...?
ok, tell me which one is correct... programme or program... i would like you to clear my doubts regarding English...
PM..... good question.... i prefer to answer it with silence:-)
rezymalik..... sorry to interrupt your "serious" discussion.. :-D,, but also note that i was trying to relate to this discussion, which you dint understand.;-)
thalib... sorry to argue you... but some serious discussion is going on...
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
If they can do it, then they can prea, eh, teach it.
"Love Me Tender"
(Elvis Presley and Vera Matson)
It is indeed a huge responsibility to teach, especially when speaking academic standards.
Obviously when you want to learn The American English you'll seek certified Americans, same for The British English, its not about who can speak or spell it grammatically correct or not, thats another issue, controversial throughout history..
However, I wonder where you got the idea that Americans speak some kind of ungrammatical "free English" and that the British are the only ones who speak proper English. After all, as an Asian I am sure you have had much more exposure to "British English" than "American English". Thus I would suggest your greatest English language influences have come from the British and that doesn't show them in a very good light, I am afraid. :-(
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
this is like asking if all Indians can teach Kama Sutra positions....lol
why look for a british english instructor? anyone who can speak english can teach you..
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
i m not part of the problem ... pm
clear you know all about the English language! lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
PM I pity the under-performing kids in your class ;)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
i dont speak very good english... i accept... nor i have taken any english spoken course... being worlds first language... we use to speak it...when we don't have anyother option...
and i m not a part of the part... i got angry upon qatarisun comments only...!!
India during he time of the Raj.
And let's just say I had excellent teachers and believe in the sanctity of language, including proper spelling, grammar, sentence structure and vocabulary. :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
In fact, 87% percent of all qualified language teachers have admitted that only Canadians can properly teach the language.
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Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business.
PM our term is "Gora" or "Angrez"..
I am convinced now though that you really are a teacher :)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
I find it amusing you said Americans can't spell and yet you presumably were taught by so-called "Britishers" (which I believe is an Asian term and not typically used by the British people).
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
are part of the problem!
"no arguement argument pls please ... u r you are being mischevious mischievous."
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
qaisar speak for yourself. I can teach Hindi, Sanskrit and Punjabi to anyone who is interested. These are my native languages by the way.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Do not mix talking English and teaching the language. I am sure most of us know our native language and cannot teach it.
Teaching a language is a responsibility, specially when it comes to teaching small children. It is not all about alphabets and grammar. It is also about pronunciation, building vocabulary, precise usage of grammar and comprehension.
In fact, it was drilled into me during my education and I went to free public schools. Unfortunately this decline in proper English that you seem to ascribe to Americans, is a global crises. You'll find it being promoted by the youth of the US, UK, Asia and the rest of the world, through "text lingo" and "chat-speak".
By the way you are wrong about "foto". We are taught "photo", too. Unfortunately some young people think it's cool (or "kool") to write "foto".
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
are you fighting for neighbourhood? ops, than this is a wrong thread for you.. this post is about whether ALL brits can teach english or only those who certified as teachers...
fighting for neighbourhood.. sounds like some different topic, man... as well as bringing the "american english" into this thread...
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
~~~2 men looked out of d prison bars...one saw mud and the other saw stars~~~
no arguement pls... u r being mischevious....!!!
fighting for neighbourhood.... good move...
again nonsense.. what's now about photo?
what are you talking about, rezmalik?
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Teach it? They can't even speak it!
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Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business.
free english... means...free language...without grammer... and also spelling difference can be judge....
american use to write... foto
britishers write.... photo
what a nonsense you are saying rezymalik...:) not even worth to comment...
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Teaching and Talking are totally different
Hahahahaha
Teaching and Talking are totally different
Hahahahaha
Teaching and Talking are totally different
Hahahahaha
funny...i speak english but i didn't hire a british one to teach me that
it's the trip...not the destination...
"Free English"? Everybody can speak English, it never did cost anything!
"Love Me Tender"
(Elvis Presley and Vera Matson)
yes, coz its their mother tongue... and they use to speak with grammer, britishers are more bright and Able than americans.... americans speaks free english... without any grammer...slang....
Not all of them can teach English.
I am an Indian and I can teach English to some of them.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein