Terminated with the reason "DISRESPECTFUL"
Dear Sir/Madam:
I am just a concerned expatriate who have a friend who was been terminated with a reason of "DISRESPECTFUL". IS THIS A VALID GROUND?
The person was terminated and he will not get his benefits for almost 2 years of work in his company. The person submitted a letter last month that his contract will be finished on October and will not renew or extend his contract . Then 2 days ago he was been terminated just for the reason of "DISRESPECTFUL".
This is what happened, while on work, his supervisor told him that they will deduct his daily Tip for 1 day without valid reason. He answered back "even if you will take my 1 month Tip". Then the supervisor got angry and told the manager. And the manager terminated him on the same day. Now the company did not let him go to work since yesterday. And they told him that even his benefits for almost 2 years will not be claimed. And the company will sent him home after 2-3 days.
What actions can my friend do just to have his benefits and so that he can return to his country with his money.
Hoping for your reply.
The best option is to file a case at the labour office.
no way
kick the COMPANY
go to human rights
Well its crazy how employers and their managers, supervisors, etc abuse their employees out here knowing fully well that the laws are stacked in ther favour. Threatening of employees is rampant with words like we will cancel your visa and send you home, not provide you a NOC, etc knowing fully well they can do it and get away with it. I have seen colleagues terminated and removed in the name of recession and just a few months later new recruits have been brought in for the very same positions.
As FriedUnicorn rightly said, People who fire staff do their homework well....Always..... and when they have made up their mind to get rid of you they will go all out with their lies, misrepresenting facts, etc. etc.
Hi , I was convinced with the explanation you gave for the employee termination.
Actully i am based in Abu Dhabi and looking for Qatar labor Procedures.
I will appreciate if i can have a word of advise on how the employee termination procedure works in Qatar .
Notice Period
End of Service Benefits
NOC - required or not
Maximum notice period
Regards,
Hssan
This kind of employer should be given a lesson for them to learn. Making "disrespectful" as a reason not to endowed to your friend all the benefits and settlements he must receive is really a such a very lame excuse. Dont waste time. Just tell your friend to seek help from the Qatar labor office...
He can go to Human Rights and they will tell him all his rights in details..its in SAlwa Road, before the roundabout when you are coming from ramada signal..hope they can help..
considered @ Friedunicorn.
And if it is a notice of violation with the Company code of Conduct, procedure should be used to such as written warning, reprimand or disciplinary action- and therefore not a ground for termination.
Insubordination alone cannot be deduced as ground of termination unless repeatedly committed. It was the first time that means warrants only a disciplinary action but not a termination.
Going to Labour Office will not help. The employers will fabricate the case and make it look like insubordination. Iám sure the ground for this termination is a Notice of Violation as per the Company Code of Conduct.
Let me get this straight - People who fire staff do their homework well....Always.
Thank you very much for all of your help, for payaso in giving the Qatar Labor Law, this will help a lot. I guess I have to tell my friend to say sorry first to his boss, but if it will not work then I have to tell him to go to Labor instead.
But until now, their is still no news regarding his termination. He is still here in Doha and the Admin Office did not called him yet regarding the termination. By the way he is a waiter of a coffee shop.
Once again thank you so much for your comments.
entails immediate resolution from the Labor. I have friends and known colleagues in my previous work who did the same and the Labour Department always favors those aggrieved party.
Of course the processing will entail costs but not high that it will not cover most of his EOS.
One example, my friend was terminated for being top-less at their accommodation earning his termination from the Company. He filed at the Labor Department and won the case. All his remunerations were paid and he has asked for release.
The case as above is rated to be just a disciplinary action but not a ground for termination.
payaso, if he files a case isn't there a danger that he will be stuck in Doha without a job or a place to live until it's resolved? That may eat up more money than his EOS gratuity.
Mandi
Maybe he is just an attention-seeker.
That's what I am thinking Alumnar. Since they have received the letter from him, and to escape from the EOS entitlements, they just terminated him without a valid ground.
Yep I understood, just expressed my answer wrongly. If the employee communicated in writing his/her intentions of not renewing after end of contract within the time stipulated in the contract then all is fine and he/she is entitled to the gratuity BY LAW.
Jared - keep out of it if you think it's nonsense...
If you have nothing constructive to say, better say nothing at all!
different from non-extension or non-continuance of a fulfilled contract. To finish the contract and to stop from there does not mean resignation. Resignation is a term when you wish not to continue working while still in the contract.
non sense topic....
Did you notice that this employee RESIGNED and then got terminated afterwards? THAT is illegal! If the employee had resigned already, the company is only terminating him/her not to pay the entitlements. Make sure you go to the labour office and take the copy of your 'resignation' with you. Good luck.
a law firm, am just working as an Administrator that's why we have known by heart the Qatar Labour law. It is a must.
I wish I am a lawyer.. no.. not just a lawyer- a human rights lawyer.. in my dreams.
Sometimes we need to counter on the river flow. That's what a stronger stone does.
Thanks Payaso for that info, by the way are you working in a law firm?
Hats off to PAYASO for his suggestions and efforts.
My suggestion is to visit the labor office and human rites office as soon as possible and sort this. Again please note that most of these cases ends up in favor of the employer (Qatari) unless there is substantial evidence against the employer. All we can do here is advice and you should take the right decision at right time. If you think justice is with you, then please go ahead and fight even though it may take some time but at the end you will be the winner.
All the best and come out as a winner.
Your friend is really in a very difficult situation and going to your embassy or to the labor office will not help you much but rather may complicate the situation further. I suggest that, you advise your friend to ask for an apology from his supervisor. I presumed that the termination incident happened out from the heated argument between them and each of them maintained their respective pride. An apolgy from him I believed will settle things peacefully and may perhaps win his job back not only his benifits. Be humble.
220 will be soon TERMINATED because of overloading and DISRESPECTFUL to others; he will be soon receive his reward:
= I AGREE WITH THE MAJORITY TO CONSULT YOUR FRIEND DIRECT TO LABOUR DEPT. OR CONSULT WITH YOUR RESPECTED EMBASSY SO THEY CAN ASSIST YOU =
do we know the whole story here?
even the dog,if we don't respect(kick,hit) it will bite us...how much more a person....just be respectful to everybody
how sad, i would like to know the nationality of the employee? maybe his/her boss has another nationality thats why they dont understand much... so sad i hope in time they resolved.
As we have advised, he should bring the letter of his termination to the Labour Department.
and the company doesn't have the right to deny his benifits he earned by giving service for the past two years. This is not a repeated one as there was no notice served him at any time. So he should defenitely go to the Labour department for justice.
But he should go to the labour law office.. What's wrong in suggesting that?
He can get sympathy here on QL which won't serve any purpose.
understanding the Qatar Labour Law under Article 61 enumerated here in:
Article (61)
The employer may dismiss the worker without notice and without payment of the end of service gratuity in the following instances
1 . If the worker assumes a false identity or nationality o r submits false certificates or documents.
2. If the worker commits an act which causes gross financial loss to the employer provided that the employer shall notify the Department of the incident within twenty four hours from the time of his being aware thereof.
3. If the worker violates more than once the written instructions of the employer concerning the safety of the workers and the establishment despite his being notified in writing of the violation provided that these instructions shall be written and posted up in a conspicious place.
4. If the worker fails more than once to carry out his essential duties under the service contract or this law despite his having been notified in writing thereof.
5. If the worker discloses the secrets of the establishment where he is employed.
6. If the worker is found during the working hours in a state of drunkeness or under the influence of a drug.
7. If the worker commits an assault on the person of the employer, the manager or one of his supervisors in the work during the work or by reason thereof.
8. If the worker repeats his assault on his colleagues in work despite his being warned in writing thereof.
9. If the worker absents himself from work without legitimate cause for more than seven consecutive days or fifteen days in one year.
10. If the worker has been finally sentenced for a crime involving immorality or dishonesty
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In this case we may conclude that there was no assault or ground your friend has committed falling under the 10 grounds of dismissal. There was no even given warning of of "disrespectful" in which their company considered as a violation.
Your friend has already filed a no extension of contract and therefore, legible to get any remunerations and benefits he is entitled to during his more than a year tenure in the Company.
The best way to do, as I opined, is to seek assistance from the Labour Law office, situated at the C-Ring Road, near American Hospital (after Ramada Signal). Bring with him/her the copy of termination paper all his/her contract signed, ID, etc.,
I am saddened everytime I hear inhumane treatment such as this and we just pray that justice be given to those oppressed workers.
You can email or message me if you want some details and it is my pleasure to help in anyway I can.
Good luck.
you have to file a case against your employeer as soon as possible...seek an advice with the qatar labor...
22OV is terminated for DISRECFUL MANNER and will be sent home within 2 to 3 day!
What the hell u 220V, He have the sense to know this is not Labour office, A person who got challenged with his job and life asked for some help and you replied like this!! If you don't wanna help just keep quiet. And what else u wanna see in QL? There is any limitations and restrictions that only jokes and crazy ridiculous stuff can only be posted here.. Grow up dudee, go nd get sum life.......
220v ..shame on u...
There is Labour court to seek advice on such issues. Disrespect to the Superiors is a serious issue and could lead to termination but I dont think they can deny his benefits on that.
220V you are not allowed to submit any comment for 2 months for the reason "DISRESPECTFUL"...
I suppose the best solution is to go to the Labour Dept hoping they will look into your issue.
try reaching out to the Labor office. maybe the embassy could help also.
Come down Sarath. tha's normal here in QL. A lot of ill-mannered people.
This is not the labour law office' it's located at the c-ring road.