According to me Smoking personal thing i hope so it no way bothers other individual...May be it will Harm their family but tats not a problem..wats wrong in that..May be that will Kill young Babies but no tats not a big deal..
So Smoking is not Injurious to Society..Start Smoking And Start killing your Beloved Ones..far b4 other Social barriers kill thm.....
of people dying of lung diseases and many forms of cancer are somehow related to smoking (not smoking alone) and a decrease or complete stop in smoking may increase their chances of survival! ANd it's really bothersome not only to the health sectors but the governments of many nations as well. NOT ALL but MOST!
flor I actually lived in the respiratory ICU of the biggest cancer hospital in India for 3 months and saw 3 to 4 people die everyday for those 3 months. I do have some personal experience on the matter. I have only seen your opinion on the matter so far, get me some facts.
mine is actual. I am not saying the diseases and cancer are because of SMOKING ALONE. There are other factors. But avoiding it will have a DEFINITE positive result but DEFENDING smoking may be good for you but DEFINITELY bad to many! And I'm really amazed about your aggressive defense about it! MAYBE effect of SMOKING?
flor I just gave examples of research on the subject, I prepared an itemized list too, you can counter by giving your sources which say smoking is harmful.
FS you know what I think of smoking but I am fed up by Non smokers concentrating on this issue only when there are a 100 other worse things they themselves are doing.
S-M-O-K-I-N-G! You are not looking for any data WK, you are looking for arguments! Okay, you are the BEST of your kind! And I salute you, keep smoking and hope you learn your lesson the easy way! Me, personally, I witness the harm of it (visiting a hospital in MAnila which deals with lung diseases and cancer and witnessing love ones dying because the main culprit is this bad habit), I rest my case!
2. People often go with the general sentiment on things like these, most of what you hear is hogwash. Cases of cancer are linked with smoking, but it's not proof. Only 1 in 3 of us will get lung cancer. (By "us" I also include non smokers).
3. Smokers are a persecuted lot, since this habit has been banned from workplaces, restaurants, buses, subways and planes. You don't think they'd outlaw breathing for christ's sake.
4. Smokers have the only real community that's left in the workplace today.
5. Smokers suffer from less stress, since they actually take a few breaks per day.
6. That bruhaha about second hand smoking is a load of crap. it's just a phrase made up to get normal people who earlier didn't care about it, to go and further persecute the smokers.
7. It's cool to smoke. Ever seen a hacker or a real artist with a health shake?
8. Smokers support the economy by paying all those taxes, which *AHEM* some of us don't.
9. Warning: The Surgeon General fails to warn you that non-smokers die every day
10. Studies have shown that prolonged contact (as in several years) with second hand smoking can cause mild lung problems. Second hand smoke has no immediate harmful effects.
11. Actually, why not just ban non-smokers?
12. Too much is made of the 4000 chemicals that make up a cigarette. Several carcinogens found in cigarettes are found in peppers, carrots, strawberries, tomatoes, onions and grapefruit.
13. Believe it or not, nicotine is actually "a surprisingly potent drug for a variety of diseases that afflict the brain, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Tourette’s syndrome." (An image makeover for nicotine: It shows promise against brain diseases, HealthCentral.com - Feb. 21, 2000) Smokers have a 60% lower risk of Parkinson's disease
14. Nicotine has a positive effect on ulcerative colitis, which is an inflammation of the stomach lining, and this disorder affects nonsmokers more than smokers.
15. Smokers actually recovered better from a heart attack than nonsmokers
16. Smoking was found to reduce the risk of estrogen-dependent endometrial cancer (dunno what that means, it just sounds really cool)
17. Schizophrenics (4 million Americans) who smoke can get enough nicotine stimulation to switch on a brain receptor that helps filter information.
18. Stanford researchers have discovered that low doses of nicotine - a major component of cigarette smoke - appear to promote new blood vessel growth (in mice). (“Nicotine to be used to treat heart disease,” Reuters Health, HealthCentral.com - Sept. 2000)
19. Alcohol is even more harmful than smoking. Yet not much is said against it as compared to smoking. Half a bottle of wine can supply you with 32-40 times the amount of lead a whole pack of smokes can give you.
20. "Sick smokers may burden a country's health care system but dead smokers save governments money"
Actually I thought this thread is about saving the earth but you want to stick to the one thing you are comfortable talking about.
While we are talking about Doctors and all, can you give me one definitive research on the subject that smoking is harmful, don't give me opinions of someone. One definitive research using actual data?
who are you, also? You don't get it? It is not asking, per se, but a warning and advice by medical doctors and specialist who knows the danger of smoking for HEALTH reasons. ACtually, they will not say smoking only to be stopped but a lot of factors based on their diagnosis of a person's disease. But this thread is about SMOKING, so if you want to discuss cars and a/c and other things, make another thread and we will discuss it civilly and not "defensively"! ANd BTW, we are not preaching!
I am getting harmed by the fumes coming out of your car and uff the heat per day you are throwing out in the atmosphere is killing me, can you stop that please
let's make sense to the arguments. Nobody is defending the other things that harms but the topic is about smoking, if you don't wanna stop, fine, but do not harm the others because of second hand smoke. And all health journal have talk about the danger of smoking, so if you still want to smoke, that's your choice. But we are not to be stopped from warning people about the danger of smoking!
And if you can't live without AC, which needs electricity, which is generated burning fossil fuel, which generates CO2, which leads to global warming, HOW CAN YOU PREACH to others?
hey, come on, i m not accepting what we all do to environment is correct... but when u cant even stop urself from smoking what right d u have to preach others.
pri actually your is, there are things which are harming the environment more than smoking but you don't want to admit it.
As for personal health, don't even get me started on people's eating habits today which are again more harmful than smoking so what is your issue with only smokers.
Stop using car, stop using electricity, stop using plastic bags, stop using plastic bottles, stop using tubelights full of poisonous mercury, stop the use of airplanes. First stop these things which are causing more harm to the environment then I will think about your plea for smoking.
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According to me Smoking personal thing i hope so it no way bothers other individual...May be it will Harm their family but tats not a problem..wats wrong in that..May be that will Kill young Babies but no tats not a big deal..
So Smoking is not Injurious to Society..Start Smoking And Start killing your Beloved Ones..far b4 other Social barriers kill thm.....
SMOKING SOMETIMES NOT TOO MUCH...HOPE TO QUIT EVENTUALLY=))
Alright... that clears it. O_O
flipfloper I do smoke heavily, I just don't support this practice.
Dude INHALE and EXHALE(Breathing in And Breathing out) is the best Stress Exercise(Scientifically proven)
so i inhale & exhale while smoking....
Damn WK.
I thought you're a smoker like me...
*sigh...
oh well..
We smoke because that's the way how we enjoy our life.
of people dying of lung diseases and many forms of cancer are somehow related to smoking (not smoking alone) and a decrease or complete stop in smoking may increase their chances of survival! ANd it's really bothersome not only to the health sectors but the governments of many nations as well. NOT ALL but MOST!
i m bothered bcoz i lost one of my cousin ,,,bcoz of lung disease
I don't pri, I am just wondering why everyone else is so bothered
whatever.. either an attendent or anything...i wonder how u support smoking even after visualising such happenings
Actually I don't support smoking Flipfloper, I am just wondering why everyone is so bothered if we smoke.
Go On WK.. I support you...
I support all cigarette smokers...
lol happy, I told about this to FS earlier, she can verify. I wasn't living there because of my own problems pri. I was an attendant to someone.
WK...seems you have gone through alot in your life ...for everything you have had a personal experience.....:)
keep smoking! And don't trust me LP, sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. We're different persons, so it should be!
u, bein in cancer hospital ? still support smoking? i m afraid..
flor I actually lived in the respiratory ICU of the biggest cancer hospital in India for 3 months and saw 3 to 4 people die everyday for those 3 months. I do have some personal experience on the matter. I have only seen your opinion on the matter so far, get me some facts.
LP just making closing argument ;-)
I can't trust you anymore, flor.
OBJECTIVELY and POSITIVELY and not DEFENSIVELY! Big difference!
mine is actual. I am not saying the diseases and cancer are because of SMOKING ALONE. There are other factors. But avoiding it will have a DEFINITE positive result but DEFENDING smoking may be good for you but DEFINITELY bad to many! And I'm really amazed about your aggressive defense about it! MAYBE effect of SMOKING?
You both 'rested' your cases, WK and flor. But you still continue. It's hard to stop, isn't it?
flor I just gave examples of research on the subject, I prepared an itemized list too, you can counter by giving your sources which say smoking is harmful.
FS you know what I think of smoking but I am fed up by Non smokers concentrating on this issue only when there are a 100 other worse things they themselves are doing.
S-M-O-K-I-N-G! You are not looking for any data WK, you are looking for arguments! Okay, you are the BEST of your kind! And I salute you, keep smoking and hope you learn your lesson the easy way! Me, personally, I witness the harm of it (visiting a hospital in MAnila which deals with lung diseases and cancer and witnessing love ones dying because the main culprit is this bad habit), I rest my case!
WK... off late you are getting aggressive when you defend smoking..not a good sign..:)
WK...it says so on Wikipeda....and we all know thats gospel ;)
Smoking
1. Increases concentration.
2. People often go with the general sentiment on things like these, most of what you hear is hogwash. Cases of cancer are linked with smoking, but it's not proof. Only 1 in 3 of us will get lung cancer. (By "us" I also include non smokers).
3. Smokers are a persecuted lot, since this habit has been banned from workplaces, restaurants, buses, subways and planes. You don't think they'd outlaw breathing for christ's sake.
4. Smokers have the only real community that's left in the workplace today.
5. Smokers suffer from less stress, since they actually take a few breaks per day.
6. That bruhaha about second hand smoking is a load of crap. it's just a phrase made up to get normal people who earlier didn't care about it, to go and further persecute the smokers.
7. It's cool to smoke. Ever seen a hacker or a real artist with a health shake?
8. Smokers support the economy by paying all those taxes, which *AHEM* some of us don't.
9. Warning: The Surgeon General fails to warn you that non-smokers die every day
10. Studies have shown that prolonged contact (as in several years) with second hand smoking can cause mild lung problems. Second hand smoke has no immediate harmful effects.
11. Actually, why not just ban non-smokers?
12. Too much is made of the 4000 chemicals that make up a cigarette. Several carcinogens found in cigarettes are found in peppers, carrots, strawberries, tomatoes, onions and grapefruit.
13. Believe it or not, nicotine is actually "a surprisingly potent drug for a variety of diseases that afflict the brain, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Tourette’s syndrome." (An image makeover for nicotine: It shows promise against brain diseases, HealthCentral.com - Feb. 21, 2000) Smokers have a 60% lower risk of Parkinson's disease
14. Nicotine has a positive effect on ulcerative colitis, which is an inflammation of the stomach lining, and this disorder affects nonsmokers more than smokers.
15. Smokers actually recovered better from a heart attack than nonsmokers
16. Smoking was found to reduce the risk of estrogen-dependent endometrial cancer (dunno what that means, it just sounds really cool)
17. Schizophrenics (4 million Americans) who smoke can get enough nicotine stimulation to switch on a brain receptor that helps filter information.
18. Stanford researchers have discovered that low doses of nicotine - a major component of cigarette smoke - appear to promote new blood vessel growth (in mice). (“Nicotine to be used to treat heart disease,” Reuters Health, HealthCentral.com - Sept. 2000)
19. Alcohol is even more harmful than smoking. Yet not much is said against it as compared to smoking. Half a bottle of wine can supply you with 32-40 times the amount of lead a whole pack of smokes can give you.
20. "Sick smokers may burden a country's health care system but dead smokers save governments money"
I rest my case.
*sigh...
can we solve world hunger first before we solve this smoking matters?
Cause I'm really hungry now.
Actually I thought this thread is about saving the earth but you want to stick to the one thing you are comfortable talking about.
While we are talking about Doctors and all, can you give me one definitive research on the subject that smoking is harmful, don't give me opinions of someone. One definitive research using actual data?
who are you, also? You don't get it? It is not asking, per se, but a warning and advice by medical doctors and specialist who knows the danger of smoking for HEALTH reasons. ACtually, they will not say smoking only to be stopped but a lot of factors based on their diagnosis of a person's disease. But this thread is about SMOKING, so if you want to discuss cars and a/c and other things, make another thread and we will discuss it civilly and not "defensively"! ANd BTW, we are not preaching!
Not really Pri...
but for me it makes my mind healthy.
flor I am just asking who are you to ask me to stop smoking when you are polluting the earth just as much if not more as I don't drive a car.
mentioning something wrong to defend what is wrong! Stick to the topic, S-M-O-K-I-N-G!
will you stop smoking?
so till others stop using car u ll continue smoking?
then it is ur choice.
but please know that it will kill u one day.
I am getting harmed by the fumes coming out of your car and uff the heat per day you are throwing out in the atmosphere is killing me, can you stop that please
I won't argue with it. It's your right to advice me and the others, too! I'll consult my doctor!
flor, this is my last warning: stop using your car and your AC.
pri I didn't start the preaching, I actually questioned your right to preach.
let's make sense to the arguments. Nobody is defending the other things that harms but the topic is about smoking, if you don't wanna stop, fine, but do not harm the others because of second hand smoke. And all health journal have talk about the danger of smoking, so if you still want to smoke, that's your choice. But we are not to be stopped from warning people about the danger of smoking!
And if you can't live without AC, which needs electricity, which is generated burning fossil fuel, which generates CO2, which leads to global warming, HOW CAN YOU PREACH to others?
hey, come on, i m not accepting what we all do to environment is correct... but when u cant even stop urself from smoking what right d u have to preach others.
So pri we should commit a great collective crime rather than a small individual one. What a great argument, I hope you are not a lawyer.
Good !!!Mouth and hair no longer smell of smoke
WK will not stop smoking if I'd stop. So, what's the use?
i do admit there are things that harm the environment.
all of us are responsible for those,
smoking - u alone , responsible..
first change urself and come to change the world.
(u in the sense i meant whom u r talking for)
pri actually your is, there are things which are harming the environment more than smoking but you don't want to admit it.
As for personal health, don't even get me started on people's eating habits today which are again more harmful than smoking so what is your issue with only smokers.
just escapism, ur argument..
pri, so you started it? And what is the result? Sooner or later they gonna kill you.
Yes pri start individually, stop using any kind of vehicle which uses Internal combustion engine, get your connection from Kahrama disconnected.
explain this:
"SMOKING CREATS DEAD THE EARTH"
nope, it should start from an individual, then it will reach the world..
Yes, Abdulkader. Just stop it.
Even making love can be dangerous.
im dieing guys, my lungs are hurting and skuffing always and not being able to quit please help
No pri it isn't but you guys are doing even worse things to the planet. Stop that first and I stop smoking, deal?
so u mean to say smoking is very good for health?
Nah. wont sing along this time.
If it's against smoking..
Nah..
Smoking keeps my mind healthy.
Everyone dies. It's just we(some) don't care when..
^_^
And why would you want to save the planet? Stop fighting and killing first, otherwise it won't matter.
pri were people not alive when electricity wasn't there???
Stop giving the name of necessity to your comforts.
MJ .. lol just my thought while i read teh thread, I was late :)
pri, they are not 'necessary'. Many people can live without it.
i was serious.. :/
loooool mj
ac, electricity.. are those which are necessary for living, whereas smoking is not so
and switch off your CAPS LOCK key too...
STOP SMOKING SAVE THE EARTH SAVE UR HEART AND
UR MONEY
It's good that you did not mention drinking, WK.
Stop using car, stop using electricity, stop using plastic bags, stop using plastic bottles, stop using tubelights full of poisonous mercury, stop the use of airplanes. First stop these things which are causing more harm to the environment then I will think about your plea for smoking.
Switch off your AC. Then we can talk about the smoking thing. Uh, yeah, and stop using your car. Walk.
SAVE THE EATH AND SAVE THE HEART