Attitude of men In doha...
I am a man and I am posting a forum to say how shocked I am but the behavior of men towards woman in doha.
Particularly Arabs and most particularly egyptians ( ya ya come and call me whatever you want, it seems everybody noticed they are the worst for this particular problem).
For the first time I went out in doha this week end, despite I had been warned by friends (woman and man) I have been really shocked by how mens look or I shoudl say stare at woman and go bother them with their phone in hands asking for numbers every 5min.
basically, if you a good looking girl, you can't go out in peace here.
The result is...woman are very much on the defensive, and group of girls hesitant to go out.
The worst is, the same kind of scene happen in macdonald, in carrefour...Arabs men and some white boy too act so cheap here !!! Seriously, get some pride and at least if you go talk to a woman do it with some class, and if you look at her, do it discreetly not in a the nasty hungry man way.
LOl I watch my word. But I watch TV also ! We can all see what a wonderful country is egypt at the moment !
God give the rulers the population deserve (written in the quran) so I guess your population must not be that good!
And I say it again! Not all egyptians are craving woman in Middle east, but a great proportion of them are indeed, married, or not...
clear
As far as this issue is concerned that if a women is beautiful she cant go out in peace here..
same is the case with the Handsome men..ladies do keep staring at them also..
The difference is that the handsome men like if ladies stare at them but women mind if somebody stares..
so is this all about favoritism? lol
Pram, Toys------------whoosh!!
listen little boys , Egyptian are more than 90 millions so if you saw bad behavior from little numbers of Egyptians in Doha don't put all Egyptians in one pocket and said all of them have bad behavior , otherwise you have to SHUT UP YOUR MOUTH
let every week be the best
I like my thobes.
Nothing wrong with a casual glance, but staring is rude.
Dedicating it to all those nice girls and boys who never been a pervert. :) synonyms of pervert are also included :)
nop i passed through it but i actually went to watch the wolverine and trust me just stand there abit and watch all stupid stuff that desperate guys do
Were you the guy in the Gondola ?
yup desperate, cannot control themselves for shit , last night i was in villagio and i was cracking up on the desperate shit guys are doing there.
one word to say: Desperate that should sum this whole topic
SA is too sexy for his thobe.....;)
happygolucky, and thanks for the complaimant.
who is not representing all women in Doha, as there many women who respect them selves and I also respect them, but as you hand fingers are not equal.
SA...lol...I am not surprised that you are first to like the idea...:) But anyways, seems you must be one handsome man, tough to take eyes off from...:)
who is that x woman...i think all 5 fingers are not the same
I wanted to start this thread also
"attitude of women in Doha"
two days back one "X" woman with her woman fried or sister or relative was in the restaurant with their sons and I was with my wife, this "X" woman really did not let me enjoy my food as she kept staring and looking at me every 3 minutes, dump it, she is really awful and have no respect towards us, I say to this "X" woman or any other woman please respect a man who is there with his family and even if there was a man is not married, this man might not like to get involved with women.
I guess we are mostly done with the attitude of men...now can we discuss attitude of women in Doha on this thread or should I open a new thread. With the permission of WID, I would however propose to allow me to do that here so that comparisons would be easy and then may be we can see why some men behave the way they (no condoning) and are only men guilty of doing it or do women also embarass men at times...:)
Can't say I've experienced this kind of behaviour from the men here - then again, my "resting face" is a pretty fearsome grimace, so perhaps that puts them off approaching me?
=D
Oh well there you go Fatimah, you brazen hussy you.
You might be onto something! Oh bdw,those glasses are framed in red ;)
Westernindoha : Well played! Being meek and tolerant will not work in such situations as it only gives these jerks leeway to continue on their chosen path of harassing innocent women.
I can't agree more with you Fathima, woman should not let them go so easily, and even decent man should make remarks to those pervert. This is how it's going to change.
Or maybe just send them back to their country would be easier lol.
Actually last time in a supermarket, 4 guys were looking in an outrageous way at a friend who was with me, she was decently dress.
I went to them and asked them if they wanted a picture, 3 of themn just looked down and one was trying to be funny saying I want a picture with you (to me) i made it very clear He should just walk away before I get really upset and that's what he did (i'm 6'2 that helps maybe).
Maybe those will think twice next time.
Simble Solution...
Better Men start wearing Hijab and covered eyes with spectacles and covered hands so the ladies would be safe..
I hope they wont see from inside the spectacles..lol
"Why? Surely my bespectacled eyes and eczema riddled hands cannot possibly be that hot!"
You just radiate sexyness. You can't help it. ;)
It does make me very upset to hear anyone trying to remotely excuse these perverts who go about causing much fear and inconveniences to us women in their bid to "get lucky"
And I urge all women, when faced with these sickos, don't shy away and let them get away with it. Complain to security/the cops/bystanders etc and make sure they are well and truly humiliated if not penalized. Allahu Must3aan.. they are truly such a menace!
It depends on how the person is gron up
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Fathimah, thank you for comment. yes, you have said this many times, and still it has not reached the brains of some.....unfortunately !
sisters jade and twit twit, brother arrow and new guy zenstr...READ FATHIMAS POST!
Read, realize and learn!
I can relate to that too LLR!
FathimaH: it's always good when it's reciprocated.
Jazakhallahu Khair bro... You too have been a wonderful support for me many times.
lots of men wearing thobe doing like that in Hyatt Plaza! Actually it depends on the lady, if the lady gives also motives to a guy.
Lol :) Bless you both. :) She is my knowledge crush too. :)
Tis mutual admiration hon..all the way!
LOL LLR, I am straight but FathimaH is my girl crush.. ;-)
Snessy judging you by QL I thought you are Straight until the baby lizard jumps from somewhere. :)
FathimaH, you really made me laugh out loud with your comment....I think glasses look hot, I'd follow you too :-)
May be she is not properly dressed. I saw a lady today in Centre point. I got ashamed the way she was dressed. Everyone is good but the Shaitan is not good.
That any man can ever imagine behaving this way is acceptable. Yes it happens all over the world, but that doesn't make it ok or tolerable. In fact it's a social evil that we should all work against and not try to excuse the perpetrators.
It shouldn't matter what a woman wears, no man has the right to treat her with disrespect and he should know where to draw the line. There are Muslim women in certain non Muslim lands who have stopped wearing hijab claiming the people don't treat them right and their lives are endangered. Is this ok? No! Rather a woman should be allowed to dress as she wishes, within the laws of the land of course, and still not be abused.
Personally I have had very disturbing experiences, as Miss Mimi explained, being hit on and followed by men, though I am dressed in the jilbab(the head to toe kind) and wear niqab. Why? Surely my bespectacled eyes and eczema riddled hands cannot possibly be that hot!
@western -Same City !! But what I found the places in western doha are the expats primarily, wearing the intimidating dresses, which attract the gazers attention.
Since western and far eastern expats have liberal culture hence here perverts think to give it a try.
That's the reason I didnot mention about abaya or veil in the comments as(sorry to say) these words are a bit allergic to liberal minds.
But it should be borne in mind that any gazer who purposely gazes on veiled or with abaya could be a pervert.
Most of the Veiled and Abaya clad Women Attract a glance of appreciation for protecting their modesty and are receive a respecting glance as against your understanding as candy and meat.
"Zenstr are we living in the same city??? Even woman with abbaya and veil are looked at like candy and meat! Probably less we can agree, but still.
The problem is definately on the man side. trying to deny it is like denying the humidity in the air these days ! :-)
Read more: http://www.qatarliving.com/comment/reply/16926411/3433871#ixzz2cVamLecB
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Did you ask these men who look at the women in Abaya and veil to admit the way they look at such women?
Maybe you weternindoha is the person who thinks woman with abbaya and veil are looked at like candy and meat!
I will understand if you say some men
and have a nice day.
Zenstr are we living in the same city??? Even woman with abbaya and veil are looked at like candy and meat! Probably less we can agree, but still.
The problem is definately on the man side. trying to deny it is like denying the humidity in the air these days ! :-)
@Straight Arrow thanks for the Link.
www.godallah.com
Nice Replies to the doubtful minds
With apologies for my English grammar,
Woman dressed modestly will never attract the vulgar eyes.
Those women, who venture out with exposing dress ultimately invite the hungry eyes and flies.
I would not quote the Islamic teachings here in as, every Muslim(if that gazer happens to be Muslim) knows what's his action to be when such situation arises but why to complain if you are moving out with inviting/exposed dress.
Surely, an uncovered toffee attracts more flies than a nicely packed one.
so now we have to get our English grammar books before we comment anything on QL ? :(
Well, Britishexpat, from my discussion with girls, you are far away from beeing the only one. They never go out for leisure apart to some premium place where some selection is done by the price...(skyview...)
I am glad to give you a smile. :) For your information I was not talking about an Individual or me, I was talking about "People" but you had a thought that "I am a Pervert" . People could be Me or You or a Group.
reality says that:
First there are some people who have respect to all
Second there are some people who do not have respect to all or some people.
LRR is absolutely right a pervert does not know what is right and what is wrong.
Thelonius thanks for making my day.
Lonius It is your opinion. The One I told would be the one for my life. What I meant is normally these perverts have no proper relationship as who will stay with them if they are keep scanning other women's anatomy.
"everyone see the people from the eye of his/her attitude"
In the world we are living in there is no country which is considered as paradise for all.
I still cant figure how can a pervert always think about sex. I find more pleasure in good conversation and making someone happy by giving the proper respect. It is kinda same like Pervert watch 1000 girls a day and sleep with none and people who respect girls sleep at least with one. :)
This is one reason I hardly venture out :O(
Fitandactive don't be afraid to come to doha because of this.
At the end of the day i guess woman get used to it and avoid some specific place.
But keep in mind:
-you won't be able to dress like in manilla (and that's a good thing!)
-When you go anywhere some guys will be staring at you with a nasty look.
-When you wait for a taxi more than 2 minutes you will probably have some guy talking to you
-(...)
But eventually, you will get used to it and start having a defensive attitude towards all men. Yeaah...Sad stuff ...
But it doesn't reach the level of being touched or anything...they are coward pervert at least ! :-)
I totally agree with westernindoha. It is not women's fault, but some Arab men are indeed very vulgar. And for those of you linking it to religion then please think of all the atheists in the west and how they do not perceive women as pieces of meat, but as human beings. It has to do with how you were raised and not which god you believe in. It is natural for men to be attracted to women and vice versa, however it is the way they portray it that makes the difference between right and wrong.
in short..ignore this forum...again in short...qatar is a very safe country and here they respect ladies...until and unless one know their limit then nothing to worry
Some will retort with...atleast they dont get raped here like back home and that this is the safest country....hmmmm
They will always point out women at fault.
The reason they are so brave to do that is because we live in this country. They can do it here but do they have guts to do it in your country? Nobody will protect them from there. But here they can do whatever they want as long as they have alibis.
For all the girls here. Please avoid wearing any provocative dress if you will just go to any souq or planning to eat in Indian Resto or any Arab Resto.
even mom's with kids get chased by men here in Doha,..whats wrong with these guys for not even respecting a woman with her kids on the street/malls
To happygolucky: No they do not suceed !!! But they will try with 100 different girls the same evening, not understanding they have a serious of attitude (and most of the time of style too)
To all the girls, Don't get me wrong, while I'm disgusted by the guys staring at girls like meat(modestly dressed or not) I still think woman should dress modestly in other place than Clubs.
It is not acceptable to go to a mall or fast food showing about 80% of your flesh.
But even if they do so, they should not be stared at with desire but with a look meaning "you don't belong here".
Anyway, the result is that even gentlemen needs to go through a very suspicious or haughty atttude from girls.
It has nothing to do with Religious teaching.
Yeah right. Blame it on women because we are the best creation of God :) Even if all women here wear Abaya it'll never stop. Some men here are pervert, in heat and no self control. They are like hungry dogs drooling over a bone.
Starring and ogling and gawking are 3 very different things.
staring is caring ! :)
these days who also gaze or stare at the men?
What is your definition for staring?
Rizs... you were not even wearing shoes... lol
BB: :O
Rizks: EWW!
...yeah... :-(
Lols Snessy !
blisteringbra, and when you first met me i saw you lowering ur gaze below my waist line....:(
FatimaH on here says she's been approached MN. And I don't think anyone of us would believe for 5 seconds that she isn't always dressed respectably.
That’s so true Miss Mimi. And then all the pathetic excuses and rhetoric about (If the women dressed respectably, no one would touch them), and that (It's the way how a woman dresses herself that makes the men make moves on them).
But the truth is, regardless of how a woman dresses herself someone out there will try and come on you.I have seen women in full Hejab (Black Abya and Nigab) get chased in malls.
Good! Was I wearing nice shoes? :-)
Snessy...I lowered my gaze to your feet...
You're such a pervert BB!! Is the word RESPECT not in your vocabulary?
You're speaking to deaf ears westernindoha. If a woman is gawked at in the Middle East, or harassed or attacked, it's her fault, not the fault of the men. There are hundreds of threads on this site that blame women because men can't control themselves. The problem is that these boys are brought up to believe that women are objects to be possessed, not thinking feeling human beings.
Yes. It is really sad to see the behaviour of some men towards women, all eyes are on either mobile telephones or mobile women ( in malls ). Moreover it is really shocking to see that fashion and marketing industry has made women a showpiece.
Those trying to blame the women
Its like saying when somebody gets robbed, its their fault for having their wallet with them. As if they didn't the thief wouldn't of been tempted to steal it!
When I first met Snessy... I couldnt help but lower my gaze... lol
I don't know how ladies here put up with it. I guess they just become hardened to it, and some how manage to ignore it. Otherwise they would be uncomfortable all the time they were out.
Yes, blame it on the women because men here are like dogs on heat and are unable to control themselves...ridiculous!!
You know as the saying goes: Good boys Go to Heaven, bad boys go everywhere: P
Atleast Doha is better than India, Pakistan, Egypt etc
which you said westernindoha
Sounds cheap asking for phone numbers from someone unknown but seeing how things are around guess they do succeed.
very common problem here... some men here behave like they have never seen women before.
Well, I see most of you will agree with those animals then.
First of all, even if a woman expose herself, when you not a dog, it's quite easy to not look at her like is she is some kind of steak and that you starving since a month.
And let's say you can't help it, at least look discreetly.
Second, I am not only talking of woman exposing themselves! Once I was out with a girl covered with a long dress, shoulder covered and all but still...dogs were looking...They just disgust me, and once wanted to knock one down.
And this is very specific to doha, because in dubai (maybe because there is more girls) guys look, but not up to that point.But egyptians there seems more educated than here.
Lol !!! Moral Policing!
If you wear something that exposes 80% of your female anatomy and specially designed to be very tight at some places, don't blame men if their eyes pop out!
If you look at west, then there are more attempts to lure women and most of them go; then you all call it consensual, making women the most tamed animal and surprisingly she has still not understood it.
Men in doha will never reach to that stage of sin. So before pointing figures on others, look into the dirt you have back home to this subject.
Guys, mimas is right. In fact the internet and the women's desire to be modern and free by exposing freely, knowing that there there is no part on her body that does not give taste to men, they expose and present it most attractively to divert attention towards them. What is the complaint then for . . .
If you are so particular then ask your women to coverup and dress decently and do not spoil the minds of men who don't really like to do so, but are distracted/attracted.
islam teaches both men and women to lower their gaze..but today who is actually following religion or taking it seriously...different people, different culture so its really difficult..but keep ur mind and heart clean and clear
Most of the Egyptians doesn`t know how to behave properly. They think that they will loose something if they smile!!!!!!!
Islam teaches men to lower their gaze..and the women to dress modestly
But these days the nudity in the movies, internet, western media etc. has polluted the minds and hearts of ppl