Why Indian/Philipina ... Only

who care to stay with filipino or indiain from the other nationality

only some ppl they like to be with fillipina girls in same house because they stay semi naked hahahaha

and belive me:

People=Problems , if yu know more people you will know more problems

I Agreed to Azilana, she expressed the point well. No offense meant, but real comfort felt mainly from someone you knew that you have the same color. It's like the saying "The same feathers, flocks together"

I say, yes, it is discrimination, why? I just read that some says its about understanding, same country/religion/whatsoever, but I think there is another flip to a coin, which is, why they don’t like others, other nationalities/lang/color/whatsoever.

Am here in Qatar working since 3 years, I knew a lot of different nationalities, and I moved to 5 places till now, and you know what, we all sucks, we are not even human or got the humanity soul, each one of us says we are the best, and we all try to take a benefit or talking or making a friendship from the other. Its carp, right? “got it”

I will not say much, but read things in here “Qatarliving” and just try to see what is meaning behind of a lot of things wrote in here, each day I do believe that animals got more respect to each more than us, who just were created to destroy, hat, fight, kill each others.

“BTW, am cool, but I just don’t care anymore”

no problem brother.

i wont push you any further unless azilana decides to ask a question, then you may have to answer her.

your post still leaves a lot of questions...but i will leave it, since you wish to close the subject.

I dont take emails but you can definitely let me know your view points through PM, ie if you so wish to do so.

until then, take care everybody.

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I am a serious practising muslim.

What can you read. Read loud and let me hear. Human is to error, i might do wrong and so you will find that your reading is wrong. Try to read out loud.

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I am a serious practising muslim.

in your quote i was trying to reply to azalina who said i havent lived with filipinos not married to one of them. I mentioned two other who ar living with kenyans.

I tried to show, i have come closer to filipinos, talked to them, even liked them (here come the lady issue) Just liked her, but didn't even tell her that, nor did i show that i do care for her. I respected her. If my liking grows and its possible to marry her, then i will.

I dont belive in talking, going out, friendship with any woman other than my mum, sister, wife and close relatives. Try me and you will see. I have admired coming together functions in QL, but I am not a good part of such things. i am so conservative. I fear to be hijacked and raped.

han19 you are good in pushing people. There is alot in the housing issue, at least as seen by me, and all shall be refuted and thrown back to me. I havent offended you, but Azalina is offended, Now could you join my hand that we stop offending azalina?

I don't mind continuing this dialogue with you only through private emails: mail me at [email protected]

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Dont quit now samawy

Quote:

I like one Filip lady working with my wife but i am scared to say this, my wife is nuts. The girl is beautiful and self esteem. Unfortunately she's not a muslim.

Hello.....now this gets interesting....either you have made some typing errors or I am reading too many things in what you have posted.

what are you talking about in the above quote?

oh by the way...i wasnt offended...i just found the topic strange and an unnecessary bait for community bashing, because its something very simple...nothing complex about the living issue here......other than the rents.actually even the rents is pretty simple, its just too damn high.

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Thanks, han19, Azilana, you are great communicators. I wish to be allowed to stop here. I've learnt alot. My wife always accuses me of being 'Mr. Know it all' and 'Mr. Judgemental'.

I like dialogue and exchange of ideas. I like to learn about others. i do respect all.

I AM VERY SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU AZILANA and HAN.

To close the chapter, I am a Kenyan and we've many INDIANS there, they're Peaceful and conservative. I've closely encountered Filipinos for the first time in DOHA through my wife, She talks nicely about them. Two male filips are living in a five man congested room (4by4metres) with three Kenyans. They're peaceful. I like one Filip lady working with my wife but i am scared to say this, my wife is nuts. The girl is beautiful and self esteem. Unfortunately she's not a muslim.

Gypsy, KENYA is beautiful but I don't enjoy the day or the night there. Its a WAR ZONE in a CIVIL PEACEFUL environment. Thuggery, Assasinations, Robbery with violence, pick pocketing, rapings, child sex in beaches, ... name it.

As a muslim, its not easy for me to pray Fajr or Isha in a mosque in Nairobi, just imagine.

Lucky you Gypsy, enjoy Kenya, you must be puting up in FIVE STAR hotels when you are there. You don't see much rubbish. But watch out while you are in KENYA.

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I think one thing that people haven't brought up here is that this is a very "classed" society and Indians and Filipinos especially face a lot of racism on a daily basis from work collegues and just people on the street, perhaps at the end of the day they don't want to have to go home and feel "inferior" to someone else or face racism from the person they live with?

I for one can say the only issue I have for living with someone is language, if we can't communicate together comfortably, how can we live together?

Samway, if you don't mind my asking where in Kenya are you from, I was just in Mombassa and Nairobi for a couple of weeks in December and must say your country is BEAUTIFUL!

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

I apologize if you think I'm insulting you but I am not. Though, I will tell you honestly, I AM OFFENDED, so I say to you...

You need not give ANY reason why INDIAN/FILIPINOS like to live with their races. Are you currently attached/married to one or lived in a same accomodation with one of us for you to speak so knowingly?

First of all, YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN OR A FILIPINO to know what's on our minds. I know your intentions are GOOD, you meant well. However, the more you say these things about the topic, the more it shows you know little about us.

I do wish that you stop talking about us Filipinos...

Good day to you.

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are we on the same page here?i think we are.

like i said samawy...what you have mentioned is right, but it doesnt apply to the housing situation. moreover i feel you are analysing this too much and its not required. when you think black...you will definitely see black. if you think everyone is good....you will feel it too, even the unpleasant can be pleasant. its in each one's outlook.if you feel someone is looking down upon you....it becomes real becasue the smallest gesture they make that doesnt suit you, will make you feel that they are looking down upon you.

i wanted to say this earlier, the fact that you have pinpointed indians and philipinos goes to show your bias towards this community (am sure you dont feel so, but your words prove otherwise), so have you discriminated against indians and philipinos by raking up a subject about them leaving behind other nationalities.you have brought us in the center of your controversy and you are not ready to accept our reasoning untill we agree with you say?

something to think about?

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FIRST, Please I didn't meant to say that Indians of Filipinos are RACIST, My concern was looking for reasons behind a specific conduct of SOME nationalities. I refered to the IND/FIP because they frequently put themselves into focus as far as OPTING (as used by Azilana) to live with their races is concerned.

If I am to be specific and exclusive, there are other nationalities who like to use the language of 'my race only'. I have read commercials asking for 'Jordanians only' I once see Sudanese only.

Azilana, I am the same samawy who is pursuing knowledge. I graduated with four credits: Security; Culture; Food and Language. han19 decided to offer me a master degree course and I'm pursuing it now.

I won't discuss your reaction on my reasons which i intend to post one by one, unless i see that people can't bear my words any more, if they see am offending them. Then i will stop.

As i said, I am not good at using insults and i don't know how to reply effectively when i'm insulted.

azilana, let me hope that describing some FILIP/INDIAN as oppressed and deprived is no insult to anybody. I feel oppressed and deprived of my rights altogether. I am semi-free slave.

Wait for my second reason why INDIAN/FILIP like to live with their races.

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Please watch the movie CRASH... you may change your views on discrimination.

Worth thinking twice before saying anything.

Cheers!

that you couldn't see the good in the way we live...to each his own.

BTW, the original post was updated, right? I remember it because I could not comprehend it at first, but when I read it now, the words and grammar are different. As if another person continued the post for someone else.

I'm just wondering....

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How oppression and dperivation got to do with us renting out our places with our own?

You had it all wrong that we lived together because disimilar race would oppress us or take advantage of us?

These people you're referring to can live comfortably with other races but OPTED NOT TO. It's a free choice and the decision made has no tinge of fear. You made us appear so PUNY as if we're afraid of the people around us.

As I look at this, you're not at all concerned about filipinos or indians renting their place to their own kind. Sorry but I can see now that you never were.

Of all the posts citing the reasons and opinions given by the posters, you concluded and unfortunately generalized everyone who does this as OPPRESSED AND DEPRIVED. Sorry to burst your bubble but WE ARE NOT.

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are you ready for the showdown?

:-D i agree with you have said, others may not, but can this logic be really applied to an individual's choice to co-habitat.i doubt it.even companies prefer to keep similar nationalities together becasue of better bonding. its not discrimination.

such feeling are very strong among all oppressed, discriminated.

the ones who cant voice it do voice it here by forming a thread, its a mode of venting out frustration.

regarding the rents, yes, all similar nationalities suffering from it want to share becasue they do feel that its a common bone between them and they dont want anyone else to bother with them regarding it.its again to do with familiarity and trust for their own country men than others.with housing, you can taking rent from the person and giving it to the landlord, so there is a major trust issue, not that they wont be cheated...anything can happen.

this also means that no one is deliberately trying to hurt anyones sentiments by seeking their own similar nationalities to share their place.

a deprived person or a discriminated perosn will seldom try to do the same to others because they know what it feels like to be in that situation.somehow i dont feel its completely applies to the housing situation.

there is a lot of frustration, fear, unhappiness, loneliness, but is there any one thing we can blame this on? i dont think so...its a bouquet of circumstances.

i always feel that we should be sure of ourself and from our side we should not be the cause of someone's pain or hurt and we will find our way. for the rest, we just go with the flow with what we believe. humanity is not dead....you will see that most of the times help comes from people who are compelte strangers and its unexpected.

do i make sense?

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Lets go slowly. I will say the least harsh first with due apology and quitting if i find situation out of hand.

1. COALITION of the POOR and DEPRIVED.

Exploitation of workers is the order of the day. Little pay, Long working hours etc.

Torture and degradation is another disturbing phenomenon in the Gulf including Qatar. Insults like 'himar' has been used against me.

Some Qatari natives don't find it as anything bad and other Arab nationals take the advantage to pursue the same further. Westerners stay and watch, then run to post a thread in QL. Africans ... do nothing.

I am a muslim, i notice the division between the oppressed and oppressor even in teh Mosque. Being a lady, han19 don't see what happens inside a mosque during prayer. Don't get closer to me, keep away, these are words said by actions against deprived and poor fellows.

People's reaction to this is get closer and:

Divide the rent burden among us.

While doing so don't bring other strange races closer to us. They are no better than the ones we see at work. All of them other than 'we' are just oppressors.

Han19 and Azilana, Lets agree that there is alot of fear within the deprived lot. Try to shout at one silent fellow in Doha and you'll see him obeying you.

These people are not comfortable with living with strangers because they don't know what others have to offer. There is ignorance and no time to inquire about others. Somebody invented the cheap solution of lets live together and persevere, mourn or sooth one another.

To remove this fear and be strong is to live with different people and learn how to fight back. Pay Checks in the gulf is fixed as per your nationality. Your qualification is irrelevant.

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now i am really curious?

why dont you just draft out the points you feel applicable to this sort of resoning.

its not insulting, but since you already feel its black that you are looking at, then its an issue you need to resolve.

who knows, may be you will change you mind after reading our posts.

but you need to ask yourself "have you already made a judgement about indians and philipinos because they prefer to flock together"

so are you biased?

just think about this...why would we all give the same reasons, unless you are an expert at character analysis or pscychologist that you can unravel the secrets of the mind.dont go into the psycho babble of individual confidence, education issues, society status and all that.

i will be more specific, if i had to share a place with someone, i wont mind another nationality because i like to think that i can gel with people well, but i would like to search for a family who will suit my religion, my specific religious sect, my native city from the state of my country, my native language speaker, the specific dialect or urdu i speak at home.

does that make me a discriminator.i dont think so.its my house...not a commercial establishment.

so come on tell us....whats bothering you?

azilana and i will help you out.

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Untill the VILLA culture passes... and the BUILDING culture commes, which is already happening

I mean when buldings slowly replace villas then obviously such flocking together of the same birds would decrease a lot.The owner will replace the old renter with a new one and both would hardly be bothered who is their neighbour.

This is especially so because the room rents are costly & most have to share it with other people. Some share a common Kitchen etc.

In a building unless your neighbour is very noisy, you will hardly know or meet eachother. This is so true in Mumbai especially the neighbours who dont mingle with others unless there is some common problem like electricity outtage or water-cut or floods etc.

Let’s simplify the matter folks before it creates fire and burns everybody in QL.

If I am a Filipino and would prefer to live with the Arabs, would you say I am a weirdo? Or if I am an Indian and would like to live with the European, would you say I am something else?

Guys, it is a matter of preference. It is like; I don’t want to live with my relatives, instead with my friends. I don’t want to work in my country, instead in Qatar. I don’t like to eat this food, instead that food. I prefer this style than to that. There are endless possibilities and that will be concluded to just one’s personal preference. That’s it.

Please don’t take it personally. It is an individual inclination and choice; therefore, everyone should respect it.

**Work like you dont need the money, love like you've never been hurt and dance like no one is watching**

I wish to thank all those who contributed in this thread. Han19 and Azilana, I didn't have ill motives then, and i don't have them now. Late in the thread, I just wanted to provoke you people further.

I have outlined few reasons in a paper and i just froze with a guilty face. Ya Allah!! (OMG) Why am I so NEGATIVE? I am seeing BLACK only. I do not wish to offend anybody and if you guys would let this topic end and close, i'll appreciate and will consider the four reasons: culture, food, language and security as justifying. But if you insist, then I promise to carefully draft what i believe are reasons behind people choosing to stay with their races and nationalities.

I do not want my first thread to yield insults and damage my anonymous reputation. I am not used to insulting language and i dont know how to use effectively.

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Girly is sandie too azilana. Like I said, speak whatever language you want...unless it's jokes, if it's jokes I want to be able to read them. :D

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

Hi gals!!!

It's my fault that the said thread went that way. I was edging some of my kababayans (fellow countrymen)here in QL to a get-together. I apologize to you and to the other QL posters if you/they felt alienated by the "kitakits series" thread. I assure you we were having just impromptu chitchat of the typical life of a filipino in Doha.

BUT, if you'll find time to read the main forum topic of said thread, it's just a shout-out and the details of it was written in Tagalog so the mushrooms and trolls would not gate-crash the affair. The part 2 of the thread are now in english (with Tagalog interjections).

Our only (unwanted, unwelcomed)visitor is the ever-magnanimous, self-righteous SANDIE!!! (sounds of applause in the background)

Going back to the topic, Han19 is right...

At first, your main forum is incorrigible then slowly along the way, there's a tinge of something quite familiar. Samawy, don't beat around the bush and spit it out. You are aiming for something and we won't take your bait...

C'mon...what gives???

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I always try to picture myself in your shoes.. If I were away from home, I’ll defiantly look for a group of Qataris or Arabs to feel home in a way.. it’s absolutely natural.

Homesickness is just awful! I can’t even imagine how you guys feel..

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Having people at home whom we can relate to in our own language, eat the same kind of food, and understand the same culture is already a haven for us. And this I believe is our reason why we choose those people who will live with us in our home. I agree with Samawy that there shouldn't be anything which prevents us from bridging the gaps among different nationalities. But let's face it, there are not so many people who share the same flexibility as he say he has. There are some people who are not good in mingling...not as anti-socials but rather individuals who are just happy being left alone. As I have said in my previous post, maintaining a peaceful atmosphere is sometimes stressful for some. There are numerous scenarios in the office which some individuals see as stressors and prefer to set aside once they leave the office. They want to go home to a place where there is less or no more stress nor tension.

Even if I rethink my stand, I still prefer to live in a place where there are people who I can easily talk to pertaining to our dear country which we surely miss. Can you blame us for making a makeshift home away from home?

Peace!

You don't need to make it a blog cygnet. I mean I'm as curious as the next person as to what you're talking about, but no one ever said this was an English only forum.

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

Dont worry we are going to make it as a blog now, were sorry if that offended you....

Peace!!!

i am totaly with you in all what your saying.just chek the "kitakit part 2" in recent comment so you can see.why they are talking there language?we are all trying to communicate in English...

samawy.....whats on your mind.

we have all given ample reasons and yet you are looking for something else.

so why dont you come clear and we will either accept what you are saying as right or just say that you are wrong.

but until you express what you feel, how can anyone reason out with you.

does this make sense?

so many of us wont give the same reason unless it is the real reason, you wanted answers from philipinas and indians,.....well we gave you the explanation.

its time you told us the reasons you have in your mind.who knows...you could be right....or you could be wrong.

lets try to understand one another now.take care.

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Thanks azalina, but the issue i am seeking to expand knowledge on, and not complaining about, is everywhere. I do not have a pressing acomodation problem as such, but you guidance is like throwing me from the frying pan to the fire. Lulu and Meera is full of that staff. At least others, do it professionaly, and they don't hurt, they write in their language, to exclude all others in Doha but their race. This is done on a commercial pinned on a public notice board!!!

I want to learn why so? I have created some reasons in my mind but will only say them if i don't find them, I fear to offend people but i want to put those reasons forward for your confirmation or denial.

I have so far heard of reasons related to food, culture, language and security, I agree on the latter and not on any of the formers.

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For the invitation that we pollute the air with our dried fish(read it in your earlier post)...lol

I still can enjoy our native Filipino delicacies (thanks to the filipino restaurants and supermarkets around Doha) until now. i buy them cooked and but not when my OTHER HALF is around...lol

As I know it, there are accommodations/rooms/houses/flats that are subletting mixed races, unfortunately not posted here in QL.

But, if you're on the look out for one, try the supermarkets bulletin boards and the newspapers.

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What is that one would allow to come in between people and destroy the joy of sharing a single life on this earth together? What is that we can't beat? Food? Language? Culture? Why should we be weak?

I dont know if not being realistic? But I find myself comfortable with the insults of 'sexy doctor'. He is downlooking at me because I and Azalina like dry fish which has a disgusting smell. I have managed to control myself and not insult him back.

'Seriously' is the right person to rethink his stand. If you are able to spend 48 hours with extreme care to keep peaceful relation, i think you are able enough to persevere more.

Doesn't this forum tell us anything. The talk and nice things we share, except for some few, isn't that enough for one to say we can beat the differences and stop crying for people from our races only?

I'm a kenyan but i have lived with bangalis, Indian from Haiderabad, Egyptian guys, Srilankan. I expect to live with tunisian or morocan soon. I realy haven't found anything in these people to make me not to choose any and live together with.

'Sexy Doctor' since 'Gypsy' refused to share with you the room, because she's a lady, would you allow me to come along with my dry fish? I swear i will cook it elsewhere and you won't get a smell of it. Further i don't smoke. :-))

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The idea of having a stranger in your house is freaky.

The concept of having a nationality of your own to sublet your flat diminishes the awkwardness of daily living with a stranger.

It is much easier to live with someone who speaks the same language, probably cooks the same dishes and of course has the same culture background.

I have nothing against other nationalities, but if it's my house, then I'll have it my way.

ever since this thread started the only proverb that kept coming to my mind was "birds of a feather flock together"

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thanks alot, i wanted to say the same.you beat me to it and i couldnt have put it any better.

samawy: we can still further classify among south indians and north indians, considering the number of states we have, the different languages, religions and varied food habits.

so we are discriminating amongst ourselves???????......i dont think so.

we are seeking common ground and we are looking for someone to share our private space, its not a club where entry is barred to certain individuals or a company where we are looking for employees.

dont we have the right to choose who stays in our premises.

i fully agree with azilana's view too and she mentioned that philipinos are accomodating and hospitable people, well so are we indians, but i am sure she will agree that for a philipino and indian family to share a accomodation can be difficult. its not impossible, but difficult, simply because of different life styles.

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At work we already meet and mingle with many foreign colleagues and customers. This happens everyday, 5-6 gruesome times a week. Giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, each one of us try our very best to maintain a peaceful relationship with them all. Sometimes we can't communicate freely with these people because of language barriers. Somehow this becomes a little bit stressful for us in the process. We then just keep quiet and keep to ourselves our runtings and do the job anyway. Citing this scenario, I suppose that it is best not to extend this kind of office environment at home. I think this is another reason why most people prefer to live with those who they think have the same orientation as themselves. My point is, at a house where everyone has the same language or came from the same place, anyone can readily express himself freely without worrying that he may be misunderstood. One need not to worry about not being accepted nor understood wrongly if they talk in the same language and have so much things in common. Often times we find it weird and unacceptable for those things which are different from our upbringing. Understanding and bridging these differences require effort. And the people who choose their housemates just don't like this additional effort to exert. Maybe they prefer silence or they have poor social skills or they may just be simply tired. And that is why they just choose the people who will be living with them.

This doesn't have to be true always but at least it is a way limiting the possibility of any animosity.

Why only Indians Vs Philipinos?

SouthIndians (people to the south of India) want only Southindians.

NorthIndians (people to the north of India) want only Northindians.

Similarly people to the West of India - Gujus

Similarly people to the East of India - Bengalis.

Honestly....All 4 have completly different eating habits.

South indians - love Rice & hate Chapaties like only football & not much intrested in cricket.

North Intians - Love Chapaties, hate Rice & love hockey.

Gujus - are strictly Vegetarians, Cricket-Crazy.

Bengalies - love fish & football & Cricket-Crazy.

Note: Cricket, football & Hockey refer to sports & not food.

The 4 have their own language which the other cannot understand.

Many of the southindians do not speak the Indian language = Hindi althought they speak english.

Gujus ban cooking of non-veg food in their area. In Matunga (predominantely guju area), Mumbai you wont find any non-veg hotel.

NOW HOW CAN YOU GET THEM TO LIVE TOGETHER...?

No need for insult - samawy has made his point of view known, he has the right to do so, just like you have, we need to respect each others points.

You choosed to use the name gypsy - with a name like that, you of all should know how recist, discrimination and race selection is as gypsies are one of the most descriminated race in Europe, I would like to ask when you last went to the UK? It is against the law to descriminate against anyone on the basis of their race, colour, religion etc... Someone has tolereted and allowed these people to enter, live and work in Qatar in the first place, instead of integrating with the locals, they chosed only to live with thier own kind in someone else's country, however it is interesting the phrase you made above "native Hindi Speaker only" I'm not indian but i can understand and speak some hindi.. Do I Qualify?

initially i thought samawy was really interested in getting genuine answers to questions. Its now clear that its a case of sour grapes. Its obvious you are lonely and desperate since no one has accepted you to be a room mate. No wonder you remember and quote Cho of Virginia in your posting.

You need help Samawy. You can later cry why everyone refuses to be your room mate.

Or maybe you should decongest your room off its dry fish

Azilana thank you, and let me hope sexy doctor will read your comment and make similar points.

Its interesting that Azilana wont share a room with other nationalities because she knows that the food smell will make people complain. Don't worry Azilana, you aren't alone with such food smell. we Kenyans have similar dry fish and no spray would do good if its cooked inside a house? Can we live together and polute the place in the best way?

Sory Azilana but Language is not at all an issue of concern. TO me its an opportunity and a language class. Its always good to stay with people you can easily talk with but i don't like the element of choosing to stay alone until you get one from your home area. the world is becoming a place like Doha.

Sexy Doctor if you happen to be indian could you just stop using personal freedom excuse and say what makes you avoid others and discriminate against? Personal freedom is just another lame excuse and a jargon to justify many unsocial and unwelcoming behavours and sometimes crimes. Cho of Virginia personal freedom ended up killing many.

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There was never any discrimination if an Indian or a Filipino would like to share his space/house with a fellow indian/filipinos. We do it for the following reasons:

1. Language - it is more comfortable to go "home" to a house or an accommodation where you know the people you're living with can openly communicate with you. No pretenses, no need to speak english just to have your message across. It's our home away from home.

2. Security - you don't have the fear of people you don't know coming in to your house when you're not around. I don't know if you heard about a Filipino couple who got raped (man and his wife)by a group of patans because their housemate forgot to lock the main door? Doha is not as safe as it was 2 years ago, can you blame us.

3. FOOD - each nationality loves their native dishes which other abhor; Us filipinos love "bagoong" (sauteed shrimp paste)and "tuyo" (dried fish); the smell of it fills the room and if we have other nationalities living with us, it may cause a dispute...ugly scene, indeed.

Let me clarify that this is solely my views; I'm not speaking for the Fiilipino community in Doha but I guess, this is how I sum it up.

We are very accommodating and hospitable people, it's just that wherever we have our abode, it's our home away from home...I do hope you understand...

I would Sexy Doctor, but unfortunatly the Qatari government is very sexist and will not allow men and women to live together unless they are married.

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

samawy and creative.... whats golden in this stand of yours i dont understand.

lets not talk like oprah winfrey for a second and stop playing to the gallery.

coping with merging world, fighting racism and ending the starving of african kids... all fine for television interviews but what is the topic we discussing here?

are we politicians mouthing empty words?

the topic is straightforward - its about placing advertisements asking specifically for Indian or Philipino room partners.

Whats wrong in this? If the room owner wants to share it with some one of his choice who are we to querstion it? Its his room and his life.

Such bogus ethical stand is very funny and hypocritical. So using the same yardstick would I be racist if I wanna marry a girl from my country? Would I have a halo around my head if i married a girl from the Zulu tribe?

Creative I think sadly you have missed the point again...

One neednt prove his greatness in whom he shares his room with. Such issues are totally a persons persons choice. And as a result of this if someone is called racist, so be it.

Theres blatant racism in other areas of our day to day life. However its surprising we conveniently choose to ignore it. But start to lecture on whom we should share our houses with. If this is the yardstick to judge racism then 99% of people in Doha would be called racist.

Hmmmm..... Sheikha Gypsy... Will you be my roommate?

What are you talking about Creative, people do advertise in the UK for only certain nationalites, however I'm sure it would be phrased "native Hindi speaker only" etc. You ever here of things like China Town?

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Creative, thats a good starting point. hi QL guys focus on: the need to be more open; coping with the merging world; avoid personal or racial isolation; try to live with other races that they understand you.

These are key points of happy life with everybody.

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I think you have completly miss the point, If you were to post a message with indians/philipino only in the UK you will be viewed as reacist. The poeple making these posting are narrow minded and ignorant, the world is merging and different races and cultures are getting to know one another the national food for the UK has gone from Fish & Chips to Curry. What would happen if all the other races decide they only want to live with someone from there own kind or rent properties only to poeple from a certain region, culture or background. Intead of isolating themselves these poeple need to be more open. If you have never tried living with anyone from a different race/culture how do you know they won't be understanding of you.

First my apologies to Scorpio. I didn't mean to hurt anybody.

At least some people gave me nice replies to my questions. I appreciate.

Most of us feel there is need to have a better living environment where humanity wins the day. No racism no discrimination.

Language and culture, black and white, rich and poor when these meet they liqeufy and humanity flows in its purity. After all its human culture, human language, human colour, a human rich etc.

I pledge to make sure that if i get a chance to live with other races and nationality, that i will respect his culture, language and his uniqueness. I will offer him my culture and language.

Look at the english language, the western culture; its forcing its way in us through peace and pieces, blood and water, gun and gum ...

Lastly i propose to racists, use a language of your own to propagate hatred, don't use international tongues.

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I think your comments are a little harsh.

You have to understand that Asians are treated like shite in the Gulf. If I was in their shoes I would only want to live with people from the same country/origin as me. They are treated harshly so generally stick to themselves... having said that, they are very friendly and inviting.

Shannu, when you say there's nothing wrong with it, and everyone can choose, and that's not racism or discrimination, would you feel the same way if the situation were reversed?

I mean, if someone advertised rooms to rent for White Westerners only, would that be okay? (And I have seen some ads here that say a room to rent in a villa "with Westerners", which I think is more or less the same thing.)

Or would you be crying racism?

What about the 'Garvey's/is their admissions policy racist' thread?

You can't on the one hand say that it's okay to advertise a room for rent for Keralite Indians/Philippinos only, and then cry racism when a European club only wants to admit Europeans.

You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

Either advertising or admissions on the basis of nationality/colour of skin are discriminatory, or they're not.

I think that when all these people who advertise rooms for rent on the basis of nationality/colour of skin or whatever encounter a different situation where they feel as though they are a victim of discrimination (such as admissions to clubs, admissions to shopping malls, both of which have been raised on QatarLiving as examples of racism and discrimination against Indians/Philippinos), they should reflect on their own discriminatory attitudes.

At least collecting the dues some what possible. Sorry friend I can't visit Kenya except for safari. HaHaHa.

Everyone hve complete right to choose what they like. It cannot be called as racism or discrimination.

I have born tough..just to lead and never compromize!! Compromise is death...and I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Shaff!!

Sorry Dude, your avatars are way to similar. One of you needs to change to something different. ;)

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Hey Gypsy I asked you if you were a sheikha and you are answering Shaf....:(

why you so obssessed with Shaf?

Do you know Amanda Hugnkiss?

"Nothing is so simple that it cannot be misunderstood."

Freeman Teague Jr.

Let's spread sarcasm instead.:-)

"Nothing is so simple that it cannot be misunderstood."

Freeman Teague Jr.

Yup Shaf I am. My real name is Sheikha Mybootie. :P

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

Qatari I agree lets take it easy and spread the love...

Lets start with Gypsy...Lol ;)

P.s.

Gypsy Im just trying to have sum harmless fun... now dont explode on me.... and btw are you a sheikha?

Who would thunk that Qatari liked Marilyn Manson! I can picture you now but massacara on and dying your thob black! LOL.

I'm sure you'd look a bit like a vampire.

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

but I meant to say not all love is damn..most of human just ditch by keeping love and showing the other brutal face towards reality!so sometimes life sucks because of these stimulated "Love"!!!

May be, you gonna change a little with your eternity in love! Keep going! Allah bless you buddy!

Shaff!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

If ur in a really silly mood, then i just gotta keep checkng in coz im sure theres gonna b some fireworks n some good laughs.... :P

You guys remind me off that Marlyn Manson song Beautiful People where he goes "there's not time to discriminate so hate every mother... in your face!"

Anyways, let's at least keep in friendly

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Friends always invite friends to join Qatar Living.

It's just an affection..not at all a solution!

Shaff!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

poopoo to love Qatari! :D

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

Come on guys...! Take it easy and spread the luv!

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But I'm neck deep with work...will later, by lunch break...

So lollllz...

"Beware of Gypsy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shaff!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

I hate everyone equally sexy doctor, of course I hate you LOL! When did I say I was a blonde bombshell? I'm not very blonde anymore, my roots are showing and I need to get to the hairdressers asap.

I'm in a really silly mood today so everyone beware! :P

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

May be Gypsy could be the service provider for QL..hehe!

I'm not sure whether she could be a bombshell or whatever..but she is peeping to all the scraps here! Sounds strange lollzz!hunh??

Shaff!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."

Nice to see you around. Even if i access QL after a month of hibernation I see you active all cylinders firing...

You say you hate everyone equally regardless of race age gender or religion....

Why would a smart attractive blond bombshell like you ( i gather all this from one of your previous posts) who has an opinion on every topic, with an answer to every query hate everyone?

And btw, do you hate me too? ;)

I am an equal opportunity hater as well. I hate stupid people for sure. cutesrk/sputnik/WATWAT pretty much fit that description.

I also agree with Gypsy and others on the living situation. I certainly wouldn't want to room with someone that I had nothing in common with. Especially if we had language barriers.

"Nothing is so simple that it cannot be misunderstood."

Freeman Teague Jr.

I personally hate everyone equally, regradless of race,age, gender or religion.

As for looking for the same race to live with, why not? Shouldn't you be comfortable with the people you live with? Speak the same language, have the same culture. It's common sense to want to share with a person you are similar too.

I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart

Samawy,

Whtas the big fuss? If someone has an apertment for rent cant he choose whom he shares it with? If he wants an Indian or Philipino whats your problem? He isnt asking you to share a room with an Indian right? If its my room I have the prerogative to choose who my partner would be. So whats racist in this?

So what if its a public forum? They are being candid and want fellow room mates from a particular country so that eating habits and living conditions might be the same.

Why do you read too much in between the lines?

Should an Indian choose an Estonian roompartner or a Somali room mate? Will this make you happy?

I've tried to understand your concept but it seems i am not intelligent enough. i however take it positively.

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Azilana, i wish i could express my self further. I'm not native english, and i don't like to communicate in it much. It is a spoilt language. My worry is simple. There is a discriminatory trend in Doha, mostly from Indians and Philipinas against other races and nationalities. When some Indians post a commercial, they try to exclude everybody save fellow indians. They say: Flat for rent, blah blah blah ... Keralite Indians only. Now Why is this so? Hope you get me. I want to know the reason to avoid accusing others of bad things e.g. being discriminatory, selfish ...

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sputnik, cutesrk etc on the grounds of lack of taste, incapacity of expression and lack of intelligence.

Patriotism cannot be our final spiritual shelter; my refuge is humanity. Tagore, Bengali Poet

I think samawy is doing great expressing himself so anybody with more answers show us some light.

hi,

new to join QL.

but I couldn't understand what you're trying to say.

But i'll read your post again tonight...

Cheers

Can we have discrimination based on taste in music, food or clothing? That would be more interesting and much harder to prove.

hiii samawy

see im just joining QL, but in connection to ur BIG question mark, i guess thats far from discrimination...but i can say why they like make it, because they much more comfortable and they will be MORE understandable with the same country/origin....

its connected to the cultural and habit, what they ussually do, what matters that can be accepted or not...other people from different country may not stand it...thats way they PREFER to the same origin....