20 Families kicked out onto the road - please help

johnmathew
By johnmathew

We had taken a flat for rent, the contract was signed, the post dated cheques signed, deposit amount given. We were living in the said flat for the last two months when all of a sudden yesterday police came and kicked all of us on the road without any cause. They just said, go to court. It seems the real estate agent and the owner has fallen out.

Now not only are we on the streets, but we are not allowed to take our belongings too. Add to this the fact that our deposit amount will not also be returned.

The real estate company in question is Edarat, having their offices at Salwa Road next to the Nissan Showroom. The building in concern is the one in Musheireb just opposite Rumailah Hospital.

I sincerely request any forum member who can assit us in this matter, we just want our things and our deposit back, we will forget the ordeal we have gone through. Is there any govt. mechanism to counter all this? Wouldnt going through a lawyer be a lengthy and costly procedure? Can we approach human rights?

The police just barged in, I feel sorry for those people who were not at home, their locks were broken and new locks put in place so when those poor people returned they would not have a clue as to what happened.

And to think that this happened in Qatar, which till now I thought was a very safe and legal country. We have our contract in hand, we have the list of inventory in hand, yet we are unable to take our personal belongings, our due deposit. We are at our wits end. If anyone can help us, I would forever be in debt.

By King Edshel• 24 Jun 2007 13:01
King Edshel

that John, but if i was in your place I would've look for another place to live in. I can't be comfortable, having those ideas in mind that these people might do it again. So happy to know that the problem was solved and they give you back everything. Zada .. let me know if there would be anything there that we can do, sorry to say that I don't have that much ... but would be really happy to help with any possible way.

By butterfly• 24 Jun 2007 11:17
butterfly

I´m so happy that you are back to your home. I really wish to thank you for bringing awareness to this issue, I´m sure it has helped. It´s not over yet, but at least you can get a good night´s sleep in your own bed!

Richard,

In my opinion it doesn´t matter who you deal with, be it Landlord or Agent, you are still at the mercy of the system, where rents can be increased any time or you can be kicked out of your home for no reason. And quite frankly, it is soooo difficult to find a quality and afordable place in Doha that it doesn´t really matter who you are dealing with.

Zada and everyone else,

I appreciate that you want to help the neighbours of the building, but personally, I wouldn´t accept any finantial help from charity, please if you raise funds let them be for the labourers or those who leave in really poor conditions in this country, there are plenty.

By Tigasin321• 24 Jun 2007 10:08
Tigasin321

You say that it is not all over for everyone. Why is that? Did you ever get to the bottom of the issue of the dispute?

Makes me wonder whether it is ever a good idea dealing with an agent. Maybe it is better to deal direct with the landlord. Do you know what the legal position with the agent is?

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi

By anonymous• 24 Jun 2007 09:44
anonymous

John, I am really glad that this whole thing worked out eventually. I'm also glad that QatarLiving.com played a small part in making a difference to your cause - thanks to all of you who helped out!

Zada : Please feel free to try to organise an event with the QL Volunteers group or directly with people here.

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By anonymous• 24 Jun 2007 09:28
anonymous

If you or any of the tenants in the building still in need of money, ill be happy to help. We should have some event or something. ...or, iam having a yard sale this thursday, 28. I will leave half the profits for your cause. Anyone who wants to help john and people in the building, jus drop your donations there. Ill have a box set up for dinations. Then i can deliver it to your home. Or you can come pick it up at the end of the day. I know how you guys feel. Losing your flat and renting a hotel must cost you alot. glad that everythings over though. OR john can give us the buildings dress and we can help the needy people. or maybe qatari can organise an event and post it on this site. Hear me qatari?

By han19• 24 Jun 2007 08:03
han19

insha'allah we will try to help in any way we can.

take rest and hope the matter will be resolved for others too.

happy heart

DRIVE SAFE,someone is waiting for you at home

By Am I really a Qatari• 23 Jun 2007 22:01
Am I really a Qatari

Good news, John! I am happy :-)

By samawy• 23 Jun 2007 18:19
samawy

Nice comments, but that 'liquid' is too much, its almost becoming solid. Thats a year salary for some of us.

Attestation is new to me in Qatar. How is it done here in Qatar? Is it through a lawyer or direct with the court? How much is it?

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By johnmathew• 23 Jun 2007 17:03
johnmathew

Update:

The media has been quite helpful, we have been handed the keys to the apt, and our belongings.. they have also handed back our deposit.

We have made a new agreement with the landlord, now the first thing that I am going to do is to have this attested and stamped by a govt. agency like a court... so that this does not happen again.

I would like to make a few suggestion to fellow forum members so that they dont go through the same ordeal..

1. get your contracts attested by a court.

2. Keep atleast Qrs. 40,000 liquid with you at all times, as expatriates we have this tendency to transfer funds home, so in such emergencies we have no liquid cash as was the case with us.

and as I suggested before, we should make a collective fund to help those in such need. Till now, I never actually thought about these things,

I will definitely get in touch with all you kind souls who have been so helpful. As of now, all we want is to sleep in peace for the next 12 hours.

However, the ordeal is not over for a few, hope all ends well for the rest... good luck and god bless.

By Imz• 23 Jun 2007 13:30
Imz

Please let me know who ever is organizing this. I'll be glad to help.

By stealth• 23 Jun 2007 10:25
stealth

This reported was posted in Peninsula today

Evicted tenants allowed back to their service apartments

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=Local_News&subsection=Qatar+News&month=June2007&file=Local_News2007062331850.xml

By butterfly• 23 Jun 2007 10:08
butterfly

Yes, problem solved for us. And I´m really hoping to hear that John will be back in his home today.

I´m really glad that I wasn´t in Qatar at the time. It´s just scary to think that someone can come into YOUR home and kick you out for no reason whatsoever. Had I been there with my babies I´d simply refused to leave.

By e46M3• 23 Jun 2007 01:58
e46M3

No disrespect Safwany but real estate agents are likened to car salesmen. It's a twisted business. That's the view in the US.

By Safwany• 23 Jun 2007 01:53
Safwany

The problem is those people don't have any clue about human rights or even to show some mercy, how come the focre families to leave their apartments like this and without taking their belongings.

I had almost a same incident like this for one of my tenants who is a QL member and the landlord was a jerk, he insists to kick the tenant out in the middle of the night and for more than one hour we did our best to convince him to let the tenant at least to stay the night and tomorrow we will find away to solve the proplem, thanks god it is all solved for the tenant but I am still suffering from this as I lost more than 30 thousands Qr. because I trusted somone not to be trusted.

Because of this and for many other bad stories I lost the motivation to work in this field as an agent, also I lost the trust with everyone and I became very careful to choose the people I work with.

Anyway, what I want to say that not all the agents are bad and not all the landlords are bad, but indeed many of agents and landlords are bad and greedy, they only think how much money they can get from the tenants and forgot that they should give something worth that money in return.

John, I am really sorry to find you suffering from this, my advice is to report that Eadarat company to the police and ask them to prevent them from leaving the country, this is important.

Butterfly, I am sorry dear, I know you been looking for so long time for a nice apartment, I hope that this problem is been solved as you mentioned above.

Let me know anyone if you need any advice about the real estate or about the agents in this country.

By kamrankhalid• 23 Jun 2007 01:31
kamrankhalid

I just said that this will happen. Everyone wants to make money right? So when people can make 50000 riyals per month from rent why work all day for 10000 riyals?

Hope you get my point

I know some Qataris are really hard working specially those working at Q-companies.

I have to explain so many things.

By e46M3• 23 Jun 2007 01:15
e46M3

I know plenty of hardworking Qataris. It's really unfair to stereotype them like that.

By kamrankhalid• 23 Jun 2007 01:10
kamrankhalid

The laws, the rules, the standards, the rights, the facilities, the development, the money is for the locals

not for people like you and me. So much has been written in the media about the rising costs of housing but has it change anything?

Now the locals dont have to work they can sit in their big homes, watch tv, smoke sheehsah, and buy gas guzzling vehicles and live a comfortable life off the rent. Everyone is buying property and just living off its rent. there is a saying

Easy come Easy go.

It is a looming disaster hope that the Government realises this before it is too late. The rising costs od housing will not effect only the expatriates it will also affect the locals in the long term.

By drake• 23 Jun 2007 00:46
drake

I just signed a lease in June for a year, 12 post dated cheques, signed contract. 3 days later we got a notice to evacuate the apartment building because the onwer wants to renovate. The owner is an influential Qatari and apparently he doesn't give a sh!t as long as he can try to quench his insatiable thirst for money. This is also NOT a building that neeeds to be demolished.

I'm single and am having a tough time finding a place. There's a lot of families in my building and I don't know how they will manage. It's pretty sad but a reality check about the true nature of this country. A contract means nothing if a Qatari decides that he wants to kick you out so he can make more money.

HH Sheikha Mozah publicly condemned countries that put profit over people just last month, but here in Qatar it is being left unchecked and getting worse every day.

Here's the post on profit over people:

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/15448

If what goes around comes back around is true, Qatar will implode on itself and disappear like that lake in Chile with all the selfish deeds going on here causing hardship towards others.

By lynd1lou• 22 Jun 2007 20:26
lynd1lou

could be done to add to the fund has anyone any idea's.

Good luck John & all the others who are affected.

By randr88• 22 Jun 2007 19:52
randr88

It serves you freeloaders right. Didn't you know the landlord was going to raise the rent 2 days after you moved in?????????????

You must have ESP to live in Qatar, didn't you read the fine print on your visa??????

By Oryx• 22 Jun 2007 19:05
Oryx

good luck - this is awful

does anyone need a room to stay in?

By han19• 22 Jun 2007 19:02
han19

John, i am with you on collecting a fund.

are there children, how are they faring right now?

this is bad.

what has been the embassy stand on this?arent they supposed to provide some sort of shelter in such cases?

i will still stress on what greeker has already mentioned, if there is any sort of financial assistance you would require, we will definitely do our best to help, pls dont hesitate to ask.

butterfly, all will b fine soon.

happy heart

DRIVE SAFE,someone is waiting for you at home

By jauntie• 22 Jun 2007 18:52
jauntie

gawd!

I'd be late for my own funeral! lol

again, good luck!

By jauntie• 22 Jun 2007 18:50
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jauntie

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=156636&version=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56

20 tenants left homeless after forced evictionPublished: Friday, 22 June, 2007, 02:20 AM Doha Time

Staff Reporter

MORE than 20 tenants of a service apartment complex in the Bin Mahmoud area opposite Rumailah Hospital have been forcibly evicted.

One of the tenants, Indian national John Mathew, told Gulf Times that the occupants of the building had absolutely no clue about their eviction until agents arrived at about 9am on Wednesday to remove them.

THE LINK WILL TAKE YOU TO FULL STORY, IF NOT BEEN TOLD ABOUT IT ALREADY (WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE!)

good luck!

By Greeker• 22 Jun 2007 14:12
Greeker

What about the others?

By johnmathew• 22 Jun 2007 14:04
johnmathew

Hey greeker,

Just wanted to thank you for your support. But presenlty we have enough money to survive, but thank you so much anyway.

I expect our problems to be over by tomorrow, when we are back settled again, I would defintely with all your support be setting up a small fund which we can disburse to those who are in such dire situations. What say you guys?

By Greeker• 22 Jun 2007 13:57
Greeker

I am not being rude by asking, but would you need some money to tide you through tough times? Not much, but i just want to do my part in helping. Seriously, i would be glad to help someone who is in real need... maybe other people can chip in too...

Once again, please dont consider this in the wrong sense. I am sure if the situation was reversed, then all you guys would have done the same for me, the support and the money...

Was just thinking out loud. Johm, you and the others are free to PM me if needed...

By johnmathew• 22 Jun 2007 12:50
johnmathew

Well the story has hit the front page of gulf-times, maybe tomorrow when we meet the owner, we will have some leverage...

http://gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=156636&version=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56

By Cornellian• 22 Jun 2007 12:44
Cornellian

I still don't know what's going on, how can they simply get kicked out because the real estate agent and the landlord disagreed? How is it the tenant's fault ?

By anonymous• 22 Jun 2007 12:38
anonymous

I'm glad you're making progress John. Thanks to everyone in the QL community who has shown support and helping our friends.

As truth 321 said, this is what real community is about.

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By johnmathew• 22 Jun 2007 12:23
johnmathew

Update:

1. Gulf times had contacted us, they took the story and called some people at the capital police station and send us there.

2. The cops at the capital police station would not even listen to us, let alone make a report.

3. We have identified the owner of the bldg, he has a company called Masco, we have the telephone nos and everything, so we will contact them tomorrow morning.

Thank you charmed, Zada and all for your help. We are still presently lodged in a hotel and will meet the new owner tomorrow, will take it up from there.

By Imz• 22 Jun 2007 11:22
Imz

I really dont know what to say. I've never heard anything like this in my life. I'll pray. Inshallah everything will be fine.

By samawy• 22 Jun 2007 10:31
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samawy

Very sorry for that. But at least it is resolved. It is very scaring. I had a problem with an influential expat from North Africa working in the forces. He threatened to bring in a senior Qatari with police. I stood firm and threatened to report him to police. It worked but no peace of mind. Always worried of my wife alone in the small flat.

I arranged for my wife to travel home and i am a bachelor now without a place to live.

Its the old new ever maxim: survival for the fittest. After this incident am more than scared and dont think will bring my family any soon.

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By aakn• 21 Jun 2007 23:07
aakn

Human exploitation is the usual thing in Middle East. It seems whole middle east has forgotten the teaching of Messenger Mohammad(peace be upon him). Here people are treated worst than animals and unfortunately there is no system which can listen to the plight of expatriates.

By butterfly• 21 Jun 2007 21:45
butterfly

The issue has been resolved for us and my husband is back in the flat. Everything inside is untouched.

I hope everything turns out just fine for you too. PM me if you need any help.

By spidey• 21 Jun 2007 19:13
spidey

this issue will resolve as soon as possible, justice will prevail johnmathew...

By Apple• 21 Jun 2007 18:14
Apple

What was the reason of kicking them out of the house, the tenants are paying their monthly rents on time. And where is the Real estate agent now? Did the tenants tried to contact him and find out why they ended up in this pitiful situation? It would be easy to solve the problem if we know its cause.

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 18:04
anonymous

hello again john. i know that was quick. im sorry but he called the police station. they said that this happened on the ordes of higer level police guys. i think a police chief or someone with high aouthurity. not to mention ure landlord is a very important person. im sorry but they wouldnt listen to him/. ive done what i could but ill keep trying sorry,

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 17:58
anonymous

this is just putrageous. maybe theyll make me leave my flat too; i thought i was safe. but after reading this, ive realised that ure never safe even in qatar. the man i told you about will speak to them. at least try to tell them to let you get ure belongigns. I have another piece of advice for you and butterflys husband. this is a trick we used in canada when we lost our cell phone chargers.

-Go to the hotels lost and found and tell them you lost your cell phone charger. its almost certain that they will have the same model. Or buy one from the New World center they are only 25QR.

By the truth 321• 21 Jun 2007 17:57
the truth 321

this is what a true community is about.

Well done to Charmed and Zada for helping out so quickly and efficiently.

Johnmatthew from the bottom of my heart I wish you all the luck in the world, the way in which the authorities dealt with this is dispicable and all down to a falling out between landlord and rental organisation.

Good luck.

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By charmed• 21 Jun 2007 17:51
charmed

we will get this sorted, like i said we will see you on sunday and get things moving mega quick

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By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 17:50
anonymous

Hello john. I happen to know a very senior qatari sheikh from the Al-Thani family. He might be able to get connected and sort this out. I have already spoken to him he will speak to the cops and sort it out. (or try to). If he comes up wioth anything ill let yo know

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 17:35
anonymous

Richard123 - "This problem has nothing to do with Qatar and human rights, it is a civil legal problem that needs to be resolved quickly for the sake of those kicked out of their homes."

Disagree with the first bit. Qatar allowing such kind of behaviour from it's police force is something every other nation should know about. This is a violation of basic human rights.

By butterfly• 21 Jun 2007 17:31
butterfly

I just talked to him and it´s ok, sleeping in the hotel at the moment, will let the employer deal with it. He was on his way to the flat to talk to the owner.

Yet, I think its absolutely disgusting to have the police vacant the building without previous notice and no time to take the belongings. They (we) are paying tenants, not criminals.

Oh well, lets see how it gets sorted. My prayers are with your family too, John.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 17:06
johnmathew

butterfly, I shall pray for your husband... atleast we were able to get our clothes out in the ten minutes we were given, your poor hubby must have come back after work at night to see the doors locked... God, i cant believe this is happening here in qatar...

By charmed• 21 Jun 2007 16:55
charmed

i feel so sorry for you and butterfly ( butterfly i hope youe husband is okay) you poor guys. I work with lawyers so if you need any advice help please contact me and we shall help as much as we can

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By butterfly• 21 Jun 2007 16:52
butterfly

PM sent.

I think I will feel much better after I talk to my husband, hopefully soon.

By yntel• 21 Jun 2007 16:46
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yntel

Try going to your embassy. The least they can do is to provide you and your family temporary shelter.

Your government would probably have negotiators who know more about the law and legalities in Qatar. Let them have a look at the contract, encashed checked, etc.. which you have and let them negotiate in your behalf. Also you may ask for some advice on how to deal with the post dated check which you may have issued.

I will pray for you and your family.

Yntel

By USAexpat• 21 Jun 2007 16:46
USAexpat

Oh, I feel your pain... We had a similar thing happen to us, but we were fortunate that the police did not break in. The landlord and real estate company had a falling out- both claiming to be the legitimate "landlord". We got an eviction notice, and the police came and knocked on all the doors and told us to get out or bring new checks to an other place and sign a new lease(fortunatly, they did not force themselves in-- we discovered later that this was because it would have been very illegal for them to do so. We figure they were buddies of the owner or something and were just sent to scare us. My guess is your "police" didn't really care if what they were doing was not legal.) Well, we all stayed put and refused to pay a second landlord before we got our money back from the first. To make a very long, very stressful story short, we are still here and now have new leases with a new landlord. In the end, our new Qatari landlord ended up being much more reasonable and likeable than we had first perceived him. His lawyer is an idiot though and wrote the terrible, very illegal letters to us. (we never like our real estate company anyway)...

Here are my suggestions... Go to the courthouse (with a Qatari friend/colleague/sponsor ideally) and find out what the deal is with this "eviction". Although we were being threatened with eviction, it turned out that the person trying to evict us didn't even have right to do so!!

Try to find out who the "police" who kicked everyone out were. If the groups are still in court (and I can't imagine the case could be over that quickly) they have no right to kick you out. Try to get names, etc... Bring those names to the court.

Band together with your neighbors. We formed kind of a "homeowners association" and talk to the owners/landlords as a group. I think it helped and they realized that we weren't going to take this lying down. We also set up an e-mail mailing list so when one person found out a piece of info, he/she could pass it to everyone else. This was VERY helpful when they tried to negotiate with each of us separatly and make "deals". We stuck together and I think it worked out better for all in the end.

I would love to tell you it will be over soon, but ours was a long, long process. You might want to just find a new place (i know, I know, easier said than done). Talk to your bank and find out what you need to do to get your rent checks cancelled.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 16:43
johnmathew

Buterfy, I am sorry ..but yes its the same bldg... the new rose coloured 7 storey buldg behind barbie salon...

I think I know why your husbands cell phone is switched, mine is switched off too now... they wouldnt let us take even the phone chargers out of the house...

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 16:37
anonymous

I am really too much nervous just after reading this article, this is really too much brutal. If i can do any i will call you Mr.John,

just give me you email ID or mobile number.

By scmasse• 21 Jun 2007 16:23
scmasse

I'm sorry but why are you waiting to go to the embassy? That makes no sense...the longer you wait to go to the embassy the less they can do on your behalf.

You should really, at the very least, call them ASAP to see what your options are.

By butterfly• 21 Jun 2007 16:17
butterfly

But I can also call from here...

I´ve tried his cell several times but it´s switched off, which is unusual, and for some reason there is no answer in his department at work, (just tried as I´m typing this)

I guess I´ll just have to wait till I talk to him and see what happens. It does sound like it´s the same building though.

Thank you anyways.

By Tigasin321• 21 Jun 2007 16:05
Tigasin321

Do you not have a cell phone number for your husband or a work phone? PM me if you want me to do anything to help contact him.

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi

By butterfly• 21 Jun 2007 16:02
butterfly

My husband is in that building and I just read this!!!

The agent is Edarat, in front of Rumeilah hospital, going down the street of Barbie salon and then following a small path. Is it the same, Jonh? A seven story building?????

I knew they were having problems with the owner for the last week or so. I havent been able to contact my husband since yesterday and now I read this and I´m really worried.

Please tell me is not that one...

By vishal• 21 Jun 2007 15:49
vishal

Really felt bad on reading this..

Any Lawyer in QL.??

Also, any journalist / media person reading this, please try to help Johnmathew....

We have so many groups in QL..Guys, time to initiate Legal group to advice on issues like this..

Cheer up John Mathew - problem'll be resolved soon..Let's pray!!!

By kamrankhalid• 21 Jun 2007 15:31
kamrankhalid

One loophole that I know is if the building has been deemed unsafe for residential purposes the owner can get it vacated.

If the owner has gotten the unsafe certificate then no one can do anything. I Know couple of families who had to leave their apartments just because of this.

If the lawyers could do anything regarding the tenants eviction no one would have been forced to leave their homes.

If the landlord has some high reaching WASTA and he got the police involved in your eviction then he must have some hot shot lawyer and the lawyer would have advised him to go ahead with police scenario. I don't understand how come the police did not give you any notice. If you people had told the police that you have not received any notice or whatsoever they would have given you some time to vacate. Maybe your landlord knows some high ranking people in police. (CID)

They put new locks so they were prepared and they even didn't allow you to take your belongings. This looks like a fully planned Scheme and your landlord knows all the ins and outs.

Sadly enough my suggestion would be to start looking for some other place and try getting back your stuff.

DEFINITELY go for the TV like aljazeera and send your story all over the world to all the major newspapers.

By Tigasin321• 21 Jun 2007 15:18
Tigasin321

I think this is a local problem and that it should be resolved locally. Trying to embarass Qatar in foreign newspapers in the US and UK is not a good idea.

This problem has nothing to do with Qatar and human rights, it is a civil legal problem that needs to be resolved quickly for the sake of those kicked out of their homes. The best way to achieve this is with local support and influence and publicity. This is clearly a dispute between two parties, the landlord and the agency and it is the tenants who are suffering.

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi

By Qatarblue• 21 Jun 2007 15:08
Qatarblue

Sorry to hear about what happened to the families, no doubt the estate agents will escape any punishment and get away with your money, (can you not go to bank and cancel the pre signed cheques?)

and of course the local Qatari owner will not lose any sleep over sleep over this and will attend his prayers as a good and humane muslim no doubt. I assume that the Police acted legally in that there was probably some order issued to the agents who ignored it as long as they could cash the cheques!

In addition to the newspapers, why not go to the TV News station? I am sure that they would be interested. I have had dealings with some of the embassies here and they are pretty toothless so dont hold your breath, as for human rights Qatar are not signatories.

I would also write back to your home newspapers, (also places like UK, USA may also be interested in seeing how Qatar treats its expats!) or get them online, Qatar is all about image, stories such as this tarnish that image abroad and will probably be more effective in getting a response than trying to take locals to court!

I hope you contact sl and take him up on his kind offer of help and advice.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 15:07
johnmathew

thank you so much richard, any help is most appreciated.

Sanjeeve, we plan to go to the embassy on saturday...

one news update though ... The Editor in chief of Gulf Times has personally called in, he has asked us to visit him and submit all the contracts and everything..

By yv2r• 21 Jun 2007 15:03
yv2r

As many demolitions are going around Doha, where exactly is the location of this house,check the neighbour shops if they got any notices fr demolition

By Sanjeeve• 21 Jun 2007 15:03
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Sanjeeve

most embassies take up such cases. inform them first so they can act on it.

By Tigasin321• 21 Jun 2007 15:03
Tigasin321

I am really sorry to hear about this. I have a friend who is a Qatari and a very senior and experienced lawyer. He is also a very good man. With your permission John Matthew, I will show him your post and see what he says.

I think it is also worth calling the newspapers and getting as much publicity over this as you can.

Good luck!

Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. Mahatma Gandhi

By kamrankhalid• 21 Jun 2007 14:55
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kamrankhalid

If your building is scheduled for demolition the first thing the do is make sure that it is free of residents (which in this case are you people)

Next they cut off the water supply and the power supply (Kahramma does it)

Then they have to put a covering around it so that the debris does not fly

Then the people who work in the construction sector come in. they take away all the doors, windows, railings and any other thing that can be re-used or sold as is..

Next comes the demolition and in less then a week you see an empty field staring at you with stray cats and dogs chasing each other

If you know someine in kahramma he will tell you whether the building is scheduled for demolition or not.

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 14:53
anonymous

I may be able to help him if the story is right. Look like the building owner is a big shot. I can ask my lawyer feirnd aoubt the options available if the concrened party contacts me directly. She/He must find the identity of the real estate guy involved. Sounds like he is already in jail and no access to him. My speculation only.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 14:47
johnmathew

When you are paying 8000-9000 riyals to a real estate company, with plush offices and good customer care, you dont think that the owner being a big shot can just come kick you out... no matter how careful you are.. there is nothing you can do when the owner just wants to kick you out after taking your money and your deposit...

By shreeya• 21 Jun 2007 14:44
shreeya

With due respect I must say that, please please please be very careful while dealing with these housing agents in Qatar. They are leeches.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 14:30
johnmathew

hello Shavonne,

No, the bldg is new and there is no need for demolition. Even assuming it was for demolition why hold back the deposits and the belongings.. the fact is that they know that expats cant do anything... that the bottomline.

By shavonne clements• 21 Jun 2007 14:20
shavonne clements

johnmatthew im sorry to hear about this. I hope other QLers in the position can help you.

In this note...if this has something to do with demolition:

1)what government authority should we go to check out if your villa, building is scheduled for demolition.

2) If there's already a hearsay going on that your villa/building is next to be demolished, can the tenants consume the deposit instead?

By e46M3• 21 Jun 2007 14:19
Rating: 3/5
e46M3

The real estate agent must have gotten official warning and sat on it.

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 14:16
johnmathew

actually its a very new bldg, and its not scheduled to be demolished.. the owner must have high reach to call the cops and just kick ppl out when he had an issue with his agent.

By Am I really a Qatari• 21 Jun 2007 14:02
Am I really a Qatari

Good idea Kamrankhalid! Yes expose them!

Keep us posted, john

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 14:01
johnmathew

Do yo know what the sad part, not that yo have been illegally kicked out and your posessions taken, the sad part really is that you have no recourse to anything, we have just moved into a hotel...

what next? what if someone pushes you out of your car and drives away? what will one do? thats the big question. The bottom line is that in Qatar one has no recourse to anything.

By killerbee_qa• 21 Jun 2007 13:57
killerbee_qa

Try the peninsula at 4557742. they always have reporters and photgraphers available.

By kamrankhalid• 21 Jun 2007 13:49
kamrankhalid

keep us updated of all the happenings and try to post the picture of the building and its location here on Qatar Living as well.

Publicize it as much as possible. Hopefully you will get the desired results.

By kamrankhalid• 21 Jun 2007 13:44
kamrankhalid

Listen this is very very important

Tell the Gulf-Times that you will only agree to be interviewed if they publish they name of the landlord's company. If they dont agree to it then go to peninsula. These people and their company should be exposed. Tell them that you plan to go to peninsula if the company's name is not published and they have agreed to publish the company's name.

Moreover also tell them that they will post the picture of the building as well as mention its exact location so all the expatriates know about that building and in future everyone will refrain from staying in it. When the building will get the required publicity and everyone will come to know what happened to its previous occupants no one will rent it.

Bad publicity is publicity after all

By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 13:42
johnmathew

just keep your finger crossed, the gulf-times editorial secretary has been in touch, he seems to be a very genuine person, lets hope something works out.

By mafzal1762• 21 Jun 2007 13:36
mafzal1762

i have no words, i am so sad

By QHell• 21 Jun 2007 13:32
QHell

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I am really sorry for all of you. Hope and pray that you fine comfort and justice.

Keep posting to this thread, it will keep the issue alive at least if nothing else. It’s a painful reminder for all of us.

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By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 13:32
johnmathew

We plan to contact our embassies on saturday, Went through all the court cases today.

One piece of information though, the gulf-times has contacted us and wants to interview us in detail, so I guess there is still a little hope. I will give them a link to this site and our ongoing discussions here.

By e46M3• 21 Jun 2007 13:31
Rating: 4/5
e46M3

Also go to the press. Gulf Times is on C Ring Road past the Cinema traffic lights.

By Am I really a Qatari• 21 Jun 2007 13:26
Am I really a Qatari

Have you contacted your Embassy?

By Raminho• 21 Jun 2007 13:19
Raminho

Go complain to your embassies, this is not an appropriate way to treat Expats!!!!!!!!!!!

By King Edshel• 21 Jun 2007 13:16
Rating: 2/5
King Edshel

happened is not acceptable at all. Even if there is a problem between who owned the place and real estate guy. This should never happened, these are inhuman and have no idea about how to treat people.

Guess that the problem happened long time ago, that guy did not inform you about the evacuation of the place to keep on getting the rents from you until it comes to this very bad and sad end :(

Even though, .. they have no right to do something like that. They got no heart, morals or anything to think of people this way. All they want is money and more money, asking god to punish them for their deeds in this life before they got what do they deserve in the end.

By kamrankhalid• 21 Jun 2007 13:04
Rating: 4/5
kamrankhalid

Gulf Times

OR the UNHCR (United Nations High Commission for Refugees)

No one can or will help you. Even if you go to the court there are many loopholes that the landlord can exploit them for his interests.

Honestly speaking you cannot protest as per the Qatar Laws.

Unions are against Qatar Laws.

Going to the police is not an option as they are the ones who kicked you out.

Here is my suggestion

Go to a mosque where rich Qatari sheikhs come and ask the Imam to tell them of your plight in his sermon and pray to God Almighty

By Apple• 21 Jun 2007 13:00
Apple

and complain!

That is inhuman! especially in the peak of summer. I pity the kids. That is too dangerous to stay outside in the street even for an hour in this summerheat. Whatabout the landlord, where is his heart to do that?

In UAE, the landlord have no right to turn off the central AC even the tenants couldn't pay during summer peak. If anything happen to the tenants on the cause of this, the tenants have the right to ask for compensations.

By DaRuDe• 21 Jun 2007 13:00
DaRuDe

Right to claim back ur deposits. and you guys can sue them also. take the contract all of you make it a strong case. and sure you will win everything back.

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By johnmathew• 21 Jun 2007 12:56
johnmathew

thanks for all your support, we are at our wits end.. really dont know what to do...

went to the court, they have asked us to come back with a lawyer, now our first priority is to move in somewhere... once we pay the new deposits and everything we will be really short of cash to afford a lawyer...

the police who barged in were from the capital police station, everbody just seems to be having a field day at our expense... we met one family sitting and crying at the court entrance today morning... its unbelievable that this is happening here in qatar...

our contracts, our inventory list, everythig is just a piece of paper, now they are asking us to prove that the items really do belong to us, I really dont know what more to do...

By Cornellian• 21 Jun 2007 12:55
Cornellian

The agent and the landlord disagreed so they kicked U out ?? :S

By Am I really a Qatari• 21 Jun 2007 12:51
Am I really a Qatari

I am deeply sorry for what you all are going through! that's just sad..

By diamond• 21 Jun 2007 12:47
Rating: 5/5
diamond

this seems outrageous...go to the capital police station by the corniche (I know they barged in but still you have to go) and file a report on this. You should all go in a group together with your contracts, etc. Ask for a translator or take one with you if no-one speaks Arabic. Also you should get a lawyer...ask the police for help on obtaining one.

By Israel the humanenemy• 21 Jun 2007 12:43
Israel the humanenemy

Attn to all QL members , please respond and help them, and Mr. Johh plase publish the name of Real Estate company

By anonymous• 21 Jun 2007 12:41
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

Thats really horrible...

You have to go to the court and ask for:

1. Deposit .

2. Belongings.

3. Compensation for the ordeal.

Mostly the real estate agent will have to bear the cost.

In most such cases the Real Estate agent doesnt pay the Owner his due so the owner has no recourse but to call in the Police since he has to get back his property.

There are a lot of fly-by-night operators in the Real Estate Business here. I wonder if your Real Estate guys have sold their offices & have already left Qatar.

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