why does the EX-PATS hate lebanese
Hello every one, I have been in a few countries during my last job. During this job I had to travel to UAE, IRAN, LIBERIA, NIGERIA, and GHANA. Now I am in QATAR, with a new company. The thing that I have noticed in every country, is that other the EX-PATS really hate us, including, and sometimes especially other arabic Expats. The most people I've felt that they hate us are the JORDANIAN( palistenian ), and am not gona talk about the egyptians!!!!
Has anybody experienced similar discrimination ????
Also forgot Fadl Shaker.
But I like the girls more: Carol Smaha (Sma7a) and Maya Nasri
Thank you PM. Well stated
Good night Novi
My fav Male singer is Marwan Khoury (among the new singers) and Melhem Barakat (among the oldies)
No pun intended ... i prefer old man than boys lol. Off to bed now ... good night Kelly and good night Apple.
I dont care wether you are lebanese, filipino, mongolian or african ... as far as you are good people is all that matter.
You enjou teasing me coz am an old man (and the sea) :(
who is your fave male (lebanese)singer? or not necessary lebanese?
P/S
Intentionally hijacking the thread! promoting peaceful discussion:)))))
You just proved my point ... YOU ARE RIGHT !!! Absolutely lol.
Thank you pal :) but that is not me :D
I am Lebanese my own way
We agree on some points.
I hate Haifa as well. But I like Elissa and Julia Roberts and my girlfriend LOL
And I agree with you about not feeling jealous towards Haifa (why do I have to?)
kelly .... with all the bickering on this thread ... i support on the last point lol "YOUR ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!"
....
someone once send me those points in an e-mail.
for whoever was asking if we lebanese make joke about ourselves as a comedy thing.
well their you have. a lebanese making joke about his nationality. its nice to laugh at night just before sleeping, good night.
I hate Haifa, but that doesn't make me hate all lebanese girls, oh, no i'm not jealous from her:) BUT...I like Nancy & Yara & Elissa:)))
#37 made me laugh out loud!
1) You constantly mix Arabic, French, and English when speaking ("Okay merci kteer, yallah bye!")
2) You call a night club "a Night" and Dunkin' Donuts "the Dunkin'"
3) You won't drive anything that's not a Mercedes, BMW, or Hummer
4) You could always use another pair of sunglasses
5) You get plastic surgery at least once in your lifetime
6) You use your forehead and eyebrows to point something out
7) You think you are better than everyone just because you are Lebanese
8) You are so "class" while everyone else are "nawar"
10) Syrians are the butt of all jokes
11) Your family "owns" at least one Sri Lankan servant
12) You can't do anything in life unless you have a "wasta" (connections)
13) You have about 40 cousins
15) All your aunts want to hook you up with a guy/girl they know
16) Family gatherings are filled with gossiping and cat-fights, where the women hang out in the kitchen and the men sit and discuss politics
17) You are constantly talking about the latest Hayfa Wehbe news
18) You have relatives smuggling diamonds in West Africa
19) You bought your drivering license
20) You don't have a job but you drive an SUV and upgrade your cell phone every month
21) You only buy something if it is expensive enough, because the higher the price the better the quality, right?
22) You dress like you're going clubbing all day everyday, probably because you do.
23) If you are a Lebanese girl you give the look of death to another girl who looks better than you
24) Your aunt is always asking when she can belly dance at your wedding
25) When you arrive at an airport you find like 20 relatives waiting to greet you
26) You always curse Lebanese people when you are in Lebanon, but when you live abroad you only make Lebanese friends
27) The men always fight over who pays the dinner bill
28) You teach Westerners all the Lebanese swear words
29) You have to keep explaining to Westerns that Beirut is not just a drinking game
30) Your refer to other Lebanese guys as "Cuz" or "Bro"
31) Your extended family is over your house all the time, discussing the latest family drama
32) There is no such thing as quiet time
33) You know there is another meaning for "kiss" and "tease"
34) At least one conversation a day is about being Lebanese
35) Going to church is a fashion show
36) You have at least one gold chain with a cedar tree or a cross on it
37) You think wearing a leather jacket during the summer is cool
38) You are always right!
He threatened IMI. And what kinda language is chopping fingers, or you will be without fingers? I saw many posts in which asmarji said that IMI would be without fingers if he had picked a fight with a Lebanese. You call that civilized?
If someone doesnt like Lebanese what are you gonna do? kill him, force him to like the Lebanese?
Lastly I would tell you "If you try to look for flaws in other people maybe the flaw is in you"
i think rocky made his point.
The moral of the story guys is that you shouldn't say things you might regret.
Also, If you attack someone and things don't go your way, you can't blame the other for defending themself.
We don't want people to Hate us for our nationality, and most people don't. For the small few who do, just remember what the source of the problem is. It is the hate in you, not the fact that we are good at defending ourselves, that is the problem.
You dont have to worry from people like Rocky.
Who the hell are you threatnening people like that. I am with IMI now. I also hate Lebanese like you.
What do you mean by saying lucky you, you are anonymous.
Good Going Brother,
You seem to be smart person, But not as smart as you seem to be. I thought QL discussions were only limited to your computer screens. But now this is becoming more of a Political Game. I feel so threatened.
You are most welcome rocky, I will offer your Turkish Coffee, and probably if we become good friends we can go for Seesha. Maybe you will help me change my view, After all I never said I was Right nor people should believe or accept my Views.
Yalla habibi.. Its getting late now, I have get up for work tomorrow.
tesbah ala kheer - Masallamah
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
In light of my previous post to IMI, are you sure you don't want to take that back?
man trust me am not upset.
the whole purpose of QL is to have fun and i am actually.
better then sitting watching re-runs on MBC.
it might be like we are fighting here today but were actually are not.
their is a lebanese saying, 7ot kasak bi kasi ou ta3a ninsa el siyasi, meaning lets all join for a drink and forget all this politics.
You expect me to believe that a Palestinian doesn't know what LEK AIRY means?
Tell me 7abibi, how's work. You work in Mesaieed Right? QP?
Maybe I will drop by and visit you next time I am there. We can "discuss" how much you hate Lebanese. Maybe we can find a solution.
As I said, Lucky you, you are annonymous right?
Take it easy man. You look pretty upset. This is just a forum. If some people hate lebanese whats the big deal?
Many people hate the U.S. and Israel. You cannot make everyone like Lebanese, just like you cannot make everyone like the jews.
stealth dear please dont disscuss things your totally and so obviously ignorant about.
do you wanna clame now that you know what happened during the war better then the lebanese.
i wouldnt be surprised if you told me that the current now again fateh el islam is a joke and that the army is doing nothing.
"personally speaking i would just be satisfied buy giving IMI the finger.
but from the description of this so called lebanese almost rap**ing his brother i though shopping off the fingers would be a normal thing"
I dont not understand a single thing. Hey dude.. why you sound so upset.. ?? Please correct your English both Presentation & Gramatically.. I am unable to understand what you meant by Shopping Off the Finger,
You know what.. Its late I guess.. you must be tired from work. I stress is getting to your nerves.. Take it easy.. Have a nice sleep..
And just forget what happened.. coz you seem to just punch the screen and catch me by neck.. anymoment.. I know sometimes.. Truth is Just Hard to DIGEST..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
Funny thread ever:))))
IT was not Lebanon but Hezbollah that won. The so called Lebanese just ran away isnt it??
lol,
haha funny stealth specially the israeli part really classy.
going back to the fingers part. its not a small issue for anyone to be have a piece of paper on his wind sheild insulting him.
personally speaking i would just be satisfied buy giving IMI the finger.
but from the description of this so called lebanese almost rap**ing his brother i though shopping off the fingers would be a normal thing.
what do i know, i am a non violent(physically) by nature.
although stealth i would to put a similar note on your wind shield and then see your reaction to it. maybe you'll like it, who knows!
and still we won...
Now we know why there was no response from lebanon when they were
bombarded by the Isrelis. Most of them didnt have any fingers to even hold a gun.
Correct me if I am mistaken!!!!!!!!!
Quoting asmarji
"if it was lebanese rest assure that you wont have fingers left to type and you can take that to the bank"
I was wondering why would people hate the Lebanese, now i know why.
asamarji I was referring to one of the first posts that you posted in this forum. Hope you have not forgotten it. It would be good enough for you to go through the responses all over again just to refresh your memory.
You are giving me one option to change my view. Thanks for the understanding. Am not annonymous here bro. By the way what does Airy Lek mean? You mentiond this on your earlier post as well.. I am just curious.. I hope you can tell me..
Cheers
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
well you will have to excuse me mr. stealth.
am not sure how things are from where you come from, but from where i come from, we are not used to roll and die if someone calls us a rude stuck up no good for nothing people and that the most we can reach is a taxi driver or a pizza delivery person.
i would suggest reading my earlier topic carefully before accusing people
Airy Lek,
You hate Lebanese? Hmm... What do you want me to say to you??
But you are annonymous on this site right... aren't you?
Hold that Thought.
See dude.. I am really not here to say what is true and what is false. See bro.. again you mentiond this statement.
"personally speaking i dont really beleive your story about your encounter with the lebanese cz if it was lebanese rest assure that you wont have fingers left to type and you can take that to the bank." Now what is this statement.. ARROGANCE,OVER CONFIDENCE & FAKE PRIDE?? .
What do you think? He would cut my fingers off and I will just stand there and let him do that. We have good law in this country. Even if he did chop my fingers off, I would get him chopped by Law.
And about where I am from.. It doesnt really matter since.. There will be another culture bashing that you wil start to bad mouth. I came across this forum that is why I am writing my view. If there was no such Forum Topic I would never start one. So if at all my country's Topic does come up you will for sure see me in defense maybe just like you.
So lookout, Log on QL everyday.. The only thing that makes your Life Interesting out here.
But hey thanks for the understanding.. Bro..
Take It Easy..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
Well asamarji your responses have proved without doubt why the expats hate Lebanese.
Just remember the topics you started when you joined this forum and the replies that you got.
I suppose that was not enough for you.
man i think being a chemical eng is damaging your brain cells if any exist.
you can hate lebanese as long as you want, i have no intention in making you like us that's for sure.
personally speaking i dont really beleive your story about your encounter with the lebanese cz if it was lebanese rest assure that you wont have fingers left to type and you can take that to the bank.
will you be so kind in telling me from where exactly are you from just to have a better understanding of who you are?
Hey Rocky,
Will take some classes from you. I know I am poor. That's why I am single as of now.
Well ya I dont mind if you add the word Haters in the Dictionary, I am very specific with English coz I respect the language and since its world most widely spoken language, I prefer in correct words, although Typographical erros are ok with me..
Sorry, dude... I just gave my view on this Forum. No Hard Feelings dude.. I dont like getting into Arguments and at the same time.. I dont Hate you Rocky.. Try understanding my situation.. bro..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
HELP HELP I AM SCARED..
Is this wat you expected to be my answer. Hah then you are wrong.
After all I dont know what BUMB means, and secondly you are violating QL Rules - Profanity is an answer of Anger or Weakness. I hate Lebanese and that is my VIEW. MY PERSONAL VIEW and you cant do anything to change that my dear friend.
By the way PROFANITY is not my Style.. may be something that you follow Mr. asamarji.
Thanks for the Welcome. I dont want to get into any further arguments. I have an image to maintain here. But dude.. I am not Racist, I just had bad experiences with you guys. I know this is so rude of me. But its my view again. I am sorry if i have hurt your feelings..
Take It easy.. the outcome of QL Forum Topics never gives any result, be it positive or negative.
Cheers And Sweet Dreams..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
Habibi,
A girl with better taste is gonna be your wife? Walla you have much to learn in life.
Should the words "Haters" be in the dictionary? Would you like it to be? Let me know...
:D finally after all the threads. IMI what kept you so long man. weve been waiting for you for days now.
just waiting for a bumb lebanese hater like urself to pop.
in the name of the lebanese community i welcome you to the post where i/we take pride in bashing racist no good for nothing ignorant bastards like your good self.
hold on sweet heart, this is the day you regret even knowing what QL is.
No my wife did not leave with a Lebanese guy.. Coz I expect her to have a better taste. Secondly I am not married..
3rd There is no such word as hater's in dictionary.
Correct me if I am wrong..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
good evening every one
for saying sorry for something i meant is rude and hypocritical and beleive me if she see a psychiatrist he will tell her exactly the same thing and it will cost her alot of money. I offered good advice for free.
And to be more of a help, that no one around is giving u just get some one drunk and have ur way with him. Its your best chance.....
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
Gypsy is about to have a Nervous Breakdown..
Gyspsy, It's like I just smacked you over the head with a dictionary....
calm down. Who care what other expat think of you!No one can deny the Lebanese community contribution in Doha and their close relation with Qatar elite & powerful families. I always think of Lebanese to be elegant, intellectual & charming.
FMINKARA-you must apologies to gypsy. What you wrote was distasteful & rude
Did your wife leave you for a Lebanese guy or something?
Hehe.. It's funny yet very likely, the hate that these haters for us sometimes...
Sorry to say.. I am not a Racist nor I have any such haterate for anyone.. But yes I DISLIKE Lebanese people.
I have my own reasons, I just cant stand thier attitude, as they think too high of themselves and so on. I have couple of incidences where lebanese people were involved and they think they are too smart and my working experience was horrible with them. And also i got one guy behind bars who though he could just do anything. Anyway.. I know all are not bad as 5 fingers of one hand are not the same.. But then again my Dislike towards them will always remain..
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
What? that made no sense? was that supposed to be a joke. In case you can't read I said I can't imagine something that small, you replied perhaps you are accustomed to imagining small things....No I said I can't imagine anything that small, therefore I am not accustomed to imagining small things. Do you need me to spell it out for you? Or use phonetics? Perhaps sign language?
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Perhaps you are accustomed to imagining small things.
Allow me to expand your imagination...
(You just keep falling into them don't you Gypsy.. hehe.)
No thank you. I have a hard time imaging something that small.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
LOL!!!.
The Artist formerly known as "Prince" is not posting on this thread sweety.
Is that what you think I look like? Guess again..
Start by imagining me naked and we will work on the clothing details shortly.
Great response Rocky, guess I can't expect much more from someone who wears gold chains, buttoned down shirts and pointy shoes and still calls themselves straight.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Withnail... Do you blame MINKARA? have you seen what Gypsy has been posting? Can you take her posts seriously?
Gypsy... You may hate yourself... Doesn't mean you have the right to put people down for being happy. We do not share your self-resentment. Whats your problem with that?
I can only repeat what we have been saying to you for the last day or so.. Stop raining on other people's parade. Of all the threads in Qatarliving, you feel compelled to post in this one which you don't like, cannot contribute to, and now quite frankly are no longer welcomed in?
You're expecting too much if you want more then grunts and "Lebanese are awesome" out of these guys.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
if alanis morissette can't wrap her head around irony, then maybe i'm asking too much.
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"Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day." Withnail & I
Withnail don't even bother, these three year olds aren't capable of understanding simple sentences much less irony.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
do you not see the irony in criticizing others for not being able to have intellectual conversations, and then claiming that a woman who has been arguing with you needs a vibrator to solve all her problems?
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"Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day." Withnail & I
what did you mean by this comment?
"if you disregard all the fabricated media about the "Jewish suffering in Europe","
do you mean that the holocaust and gas chambers and concentration camps were made up?
yes am a single guy but am not in the market plus i need a grown women not kids am not a perv like kell's they could worket perffect togather
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
For the right Salary anything is possible (Almost anything).
Are you working from a dating agent or a match maker? lol
no need man for me their is some thing called vibrater am sure she have one next to her she can use it when ever she want take care man
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
no need man for me their is some thing called vibrater am sure she have one next to her she can use it when ever she want take care man
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
Gypsy Says- "Rocky I think it's quite obvious at this point that you are incapable of saying anything remotely intellectual"
Rocky Replies- Are you Blind or Illiterate?
Gypsy Says- I've asked a simple question which you are unable to answer and in frustration you have made personal attacks against me.
Rocky Replies- As everyone on this thread has been asking for over a day now... What is the Big Question?
LOL as FMINKARA put it... I think you need to release your frustrations...
FMINKARA, take Gypsy out on a Date. Hehehe. Please Please Please.. Do it as a favour for me.
Quote:
"1-they feel we are taking their land as in fact this is not their land and we are hosting them in our land
2-they feel we are taking their jobs as infact a company don't care where are u from as long as ur the perfecet man/women for the job"
-->Now, its crystal clear!:))
so you meant are those Palestinian in Lebanon? not the Jordanians in Irbid or in Jordan? or not even the Palestinians in Qatar, (coz you did confused me when you mixed up the two)
P/S
I love this thread! though there are some heated arguments here, but Wallah! I love to understand your cultures & different society? YOU all Arabs maghroor;)(Joke!)
What makes you think that ALL expatriates hate Lebanese people in particular as what u have stated???or its just u?
I think that an agressive attitude, choice of bad words when talking to people, a dirty mouth, an arrogant character, lack of education (including terrible English spelling) and lack of self-respect are all factors that make people hate a person/a nation.
I wonder why people hate you (as you claim), even though you don't have any of the above!
I guess they are failing to see the angel in you.
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once again please read all the posted articles not the last one and then u will understand y am saying what am saying and for bieng careless and don't minde being a little bit nasty cause who ever am addressing had asked for it and for my attitude and lack or gain of educational is not the problem over here and plese i don't remmber i ever addresed u in a good or a bad way then y are u attacking me with all of ur nuke is it ur habit to attack any one who don't agree with u with all the forbeden weapons.
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
It seems to me that its very hard for u to have an itelectual conversation since it need usually two smart and intelectual persons. and to enter one such as u r asking for need at first an open minde for other opinion and suggestion and since u entered this post and ur acting like a 6 year old child who is crying for one and only one thing sweets and in ur case i really advise u to go and have some to night cause it seems to me that u need some kind of relaxation and maybe if u are out of ur ......frustration and then maybe we can have an inteletcual conversation
peace
fight with love humanity and not with rage !!!!!!!
Just a quick update... I know its a confusing thread.
"FMinkara" is a new guy in Doha and has been copping alot of flak for his nationality.
The Thread was Hijacked along the way and sidetracked a bit to other loosely related issues.
The Thread has nothing to do with Canadians, and is not by any means anti-Canadian.
It is ethnically neutral promoting better fellings towards Lebanese.
Peace.
my greeting to every one hope u had a good day at work.
Any way for those who miss understood me for those pelstnien people who live in leb i really love and respecet them and i know some of them are nice people and some are just fools and popets in the hand of the great popetier anyway i don't hate them as i said and i wrote i feel not only for me but twords all lebanese
1-they feel we are taking their land as in fact this is not their land and we are hosting them in our land
2-they feel we are taking their jobs as infact a company don't care where are u from as long as ur the perfecet man/women for the job
and the bases for my argument as i told before anyone who wants to join the conversation please read it from top to bottom. this is the simplest and most effective way so that u don't ask some silly question.
and for the canadain girl whether u slap ur country or not that a thing between u and ur people i can't judge u i can judge who is from own country.
For the person who impleneted on my hatres for syrien and bieng such as smart a.. and said that the most people who are harmed in this world are the pelestinien and not the jew. you reallly are a silly and stuppied man and i will explain it for u am gona go down to ur level of education and explain to u what i said:
if the jews are able to forgive the natzi for the holycast i will forgive the syrien
and when the people of france forgive hitler for invading their country then i might forgive them
we should never forget what the syrien regin have done in leb for theirty years from killing boming kidnaping raping stealling etc....
in the end am a person am not a god to turn the next side to be slaped
"The most people I've felt that they hate us are the JORDANIAN(palistenian)."
yup why in world u state that word???
lol.....knw what....who cares anyway.....check ur "ego" dude!!!
PEACE.....
Rocky I think it's quite obvious at this point that you are incapable of saying anything remotely intellectual, all you seem able to do is attempt to insult me, which I find amusing. I've asked a simple question which you are unable to answer and in frustration you have made personal attacks against me. It's hilarious really.
As for asking a Native Canadian, do you mean an Aboriginal Canadian (Of which my grandmother is one) or just someone born in Canada (which I, and 300 previous years of ancestors) was. Once again, I love my country, but I'm not delusional about it or the people in it.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Quote fminkara:
"The most people I've felt that they hate us are the JORDANIAN(palistenian)."
-->why do you felt so, that Jordanian hates you?
Hey dude! i'm NOT Jordanian, but i love & respect that Kingdom!:)))))
rundolf my friend as we lebanese like to say " MITIL AIRY" what you think or feel.
sadly am a bit busy for the sec, but do trust me that i/rocky/fminkara will have a sweet sweet answer for your question.
the kind of answers that makes you wanna go cry to mama.
until then, have a nice day.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
Hilarious thread.. I love it.
What sweet sweet sentiments and respect you have for your country and countrymen. Bravo.
One day out of curiosity, I would like to compare your sentiments toward Canada with those of a Native Canadian.
That would be an interesting comparison.
Ufft...
Sweetheart.. If I wanted intelligent dialogue, Do you think I would come running to you?
Hehe.
just cant understand where the story goes!!!!is this a battle of intellectual???what the big deal about lebanese thing???physical appearance???canadian lebanese???whats ur problem asamarji????ur proving that u guys are smart than everyone in arab country....is that what u want to tell???or ur such a sensitive guy who has personality problem???
..I had to travel to UAE, IRAN, LIBERIA, NIGERIA, and GHANA. Now I am in QATAR....I have noticed in every country that other the EX-PATS really hate us, including, and sometimes especially other arabic expatriates. The most people I've felt that they hate us are the JORDANIAN( palistenian ), and am not gona talk about the egyptians!!!!
that is great man :)
enough hatred.
hate will get us no where. dats for sure.
I have no grudge for anyone, no matter what nationality he is or religion .. even if he is a Jewish. Gotta meet the guy and have later a good reason to love him or hate him. I can't hate all people from one nationality because I met someone who is bad, right brother? I'm glad to have someone like you here and do accept your friendship and as I told you I got some Lebanese friends here and we are all nice and good to each other.
i second what nadt have just said.
this is why i took my palestinian manager as an example.
i know alot and alot of good palestinians and i feel more confortable with them then any other nationality since they hold similar values.
i do also feel very bad about whats going on in palestine and do trust me i will throw a huge party in the palestinians are to reclaim their land one day.
to portalfred i have no idea what to say rather than if you dont like it and as i've said to alot of pple either read the entire old thread or don't even botther commenting.
maybe one day ill copy past out of that thread to make my point but right now am off for lunch which is in my opinion more important thing in the world(FOOD) maybe we can at least agree on that.
as for Mr. king, 7abibi if you have a good heart and dont have anything against lebanese i would be honored to call you a brother just like i've called many palestinans before you.
and do trust me that their is no one as passionate as me when it comes to the palestinians rights and cause.
but as you have said all this is just a game in the hands of politicians that want more money more power no matter how rich and strong they become.
as for us, the poor people their is no reason on individual basis to live in harmoney and love. am i right bro?
Portalfred..The title of the thread is why ex-pats hate Lebanese....and the responses were all about Lebanese people hence why the arguments continued in that manner..Its only normal to defend yourself when people speak badly of you or your culture no matter what nationality you are. If it doesnt bother you thats fine butif it does, you should be able to reply...
Since King Edshel mentioned other Arab nationalities, im sure they will get a mention too.
I agree there is tension b/w leb/palestians but not all lebanese hate Palestinians...I for one love Palestinians and really hate the predicament they are in....
you are right that what is happening in Lebanon is not fair, but did these people choose to live there like that? A lot of them still got the keys to their taken houses and still dreaming [wake up guys] of going back :( I know from some Lebanese friends here that the Palestinians refugees there are prohibited from working in 120 jobs [just wondering what is left?] and their situation is bad [just look at their houses in the refugees camps]. Honestly I don't know who is responsible for that, but it is a game bigger than me and you. When it comes to the political matters, no one knows what the hell is going on :( Some people are using these guys for unknown demands and to archive something that they want.
Working for some company, does not mean that you should be satisfied with your boss no matter from where he is coming. Dear friend, I don't want to argue with anyone here but I always got that feeling when I introduce myself to some people. Oh Palestinian , that explains a lot and I have no idea what is with this attitude. You can't blame someone for others mistakes or hate him for that reason.
The good and the bad were and would always be there, there is no complete human race that can be good as well as being bad.
Peace
I followed your advice, went to read "lebanese boys & girls", felt disgusted from the posted topic actually, as it was full of self-air-pumping, and I could not read more than the 1st page because, and to my surprise, gypsy was being normal, while you were being aggressive with her!!
I also find it very unacceptable to wrongfully claim that Palestineas have werecked Lebanon.
Due to the above, and in order to maintain my love to Lebanon & the Lebanese people, I will just consider you as an exception to the rule (which is the good Lebanese people) and will gracefully withdraw from this fruitless discussions.
Cheers!
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let me answer this king edshel,
one we dont hate palestinians as a race, although we do have something again palestenians living and actually wrecking lebanon for some reason or another.
i understand why rich gulf countries like qatar hosted the refugees back in the days but for lebanon to host them... we can barely host ourselves.
personally speaking i had too incident with two palestinans individuals. once i over heard a person on the phone naming lebanese as bit*** although he was working for a lebanese company.
the second time here in qatar when a palestinian guy claimed that the qatari goverment can't get anymore palestinans so they replace them with lebanese and philipino workers.
need i to continue!...
again on a personnel note i have a palestinian GM which i honestly consider like a father to me. he is one of classiest more respectable honest human i ever seen.
and his generosity blows me away(invited me over many times to sit with his family and have lunch) now for a person like that even if he's palestinian i would do anything because he's a real gentelman.
other then that i have nothing to say about the issue.
i agree... based on my own and my fellow's experience around the community (not much lebanese thu' just enough to give a little idea), on the otherhand, they are indeed elegant (as the fashion capital in gulf). PEACE.
I was just asking myself the same question, why do Lebanese hate us [Palestinians] so much? Answer me and I will answer you back.
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point well noted gypsy, thank you for all your valuable inputs.
take care
Um if you go back and read that thread asajamrri I didn't bash Lebanese at all. :? Nor have I here. Fminkara asked a question, I gave my answer as to why some people may not like Lebanese or get irritated with them, so now I'm being bashed, for what?? Having an opinion. If you guys don't want to hear the answer as to why others don't like you, then don't ask, that simple.
As for the Canadian comment, that was in reference to Fminkara's comment to me, please read all the posts before making comments so you don't appear to be quite so stupid.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
i have a tendancy to write fast so you will have to excuse me sometimes.
the topic itself does not concern me directly.
but if you read the original lebanese boys and girls and saw how the west(specially ausi) was replying to the lebanes communiy, you will understand why i am saying all that.
:-)
You are still concentrating on a person (gypsy) and forgetting the main issue, my friend.
If you disagree with her, just forget her & give us answers about the topic here in order to clear the picture
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welcome to the topic.
let me explain what fminkara and rocky were trying to explain.
its one thing to disscuss Leb problems like sectarian laws and maybe hozballah issue or the economics and general politics and totally another thing to start talking about lebanese banks financing plastic surgeries(stated by kelly).
i hope you can see the difference between these two point and what exactly are we trying to defend here.
in another issue, this thread like many more before was a result of a constant lebanese racist bashing by western sosciety.
ask gypsy she knows, she actually was in one of them remember"lebanese boys and girls" topic.
why do you look for that topic and see what has been written,
lebanese are better off working pizza delivery and Sh*t removers for us.
lebanese are the low class of our society and their no good for nothing
lebanese are so ugly that their women will spit in their faces!
that was a small preview of what have been said back then.
and yes gypsy i havent forgot that thread even though the lebanese community faught back nor have we forgotten who was part of that lebanese bashing.
Today my dear the lebanese fight back and trust me their is much much much more things to come.
just sit back and enjoy the show!
1st of all I'd like to say that a nation that has "Fiarouz" in it, is a nation that has all the right to be proud.
I think that when you people are fighting among yourselves here and calling each other names, you are giving reason to a lot of people to have a 2nd thought about the Lebanese.
Yes I don't agree with Gypsy's mentality in all here discussions in all other threads, but I agree with her that if you highlight some negative aspects about your country/society in order to discuss them & try to find solutions for them, then you are much more patriotic than those who give a blind eye to all the negativity & pretend that everything is perfect.
Now let's discuss the topic of this thread:
...I had to travel to UAE, IRAN, LIBERIA, NIGERIA, and GHANA. Now I am in QATAR....I have noticed in every country that other the EX-PATS really hate us, including, and sometimes especially other arabic expatriates. The most people I've felt that they hate us are the JORDANIAN( palistenian ), and am not gona talk about the egyptians!!!!
Has anybody experienced similar discrimination ????
-So are you feeling the hatred in all the above countries?
-Are there Jordanians & Palestineas in Iran, Liberia, Nigeria & Ghana?
-I don't see any Palestineas or Jordanians arguing with you here!
-Later you were concentrating on Syrians! Are they "better" or "worse" than Jordanians & Palestineans?
-Why are you "not gona talk about egyptians" after you have talked about Jordanians, Palestineans & Syrians?!
-As for your last question, and if you disregard all the fabricated media about the "Jewish suffering in Europe", I don't think that there is any nation on earth that has suffered from hatred & discrimination & tragedies more than the Palestinean....even in Jordan...and... Lebanon!
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that was way out of topic.
who cares if the canadian are fat and have bad pilots, hell we dont even have an air force to start with but that not really the issue. we are not here to play who got the strongest army game cz that will simple be plain stupid.
rocky said that its not nice to put out our durty laundry infront of everyone ( which i agree ) cz it gives a bad image about our beloved country and you just snapped in his face.
gypy take a pill and relax a bit, if your confortable talking about how disscusting your country is infront the whole expat community then fine by me, be my guest. in the other hand if we dont feel that doing so is acceptable that should also be fine by everyone including yourself.
and why is that!?
well the reason is again based on social values, if in a family the parents had a fight, its not neccessary for the entire street to know about it.
if something bad happened in the family, it stays in the family and not run to consultant and god knows what and then its all over the new and shows like dr. phil and opera.
this kind of durty laundry exposure is not welcomed in leb due to something called the secrecy of the house which obvious the west is somehow lacking.
so stop arguing about something you dont understand because the more you talk the worse you will look.
thank you and god bless.
Finminkara, actually the Canadian airforce is not commanded by the Americans. And while we may have good pilots our Armed Forces are crap and pretty much ineffectual do to lack of funding from our government. Also yes we are suffering from a problem with obesity. It's causing major problems with our healthcare.
Do you consider me not a patriot because I admit to my countries problems and don't have delusions of grandeur about it?
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
First of all goodmorning every one....
Second to kelly's what the hell are u doing on facebook searching for lebanese y are u targeting them in all what u say u spread poison. once again what the hell are u searching on the net for young lebanese boys in qatar to getbusy with are u some kind of perv. well i really can't imagine any some one above 50's still trying to reach some kids please this kind of work no need to advertise for stay away from us and get lost some place where ur action is accpeteble .....
GUPSY
its seems for u anyone can say what ever he want about ur country and u wouldn't minde it well let me say that yes you(canadien)have the best airforce piolets in the world but still ur been commanded by american and yes u have alot of food that's y ur country is full with cow's .... And now u tell me if u like it and u consider me a patriot or not.........
Jeez are you guys retarded. Do you ever actually read what you write? My question was, Why do you think it is unpatriotic to say something negative about your country?? This was a simple question designed to start and intelligent dialogue, which is obviously more then you can handle. So go back to talking about how great and wonderful Lebanese people are, I'm just going to ignore you kids from this point on.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
I've got Lebanese who work for me and Lebanese who are my friends. I also know Lebanese who I can't stand. I'm sure that's true of Canadians as well. Doesn't that just make us normal?
Whats going on in that post man?
"7abibi, saying your lebanese doesnt make you lebanese.how you act and talk defines you as who you are"
beautiful words.. Well Said.
1) As asamarji said, you have yet to tell any of us exactly what you want backed up?
2)Sweetheart, Read all my post till now. I ENTERED THIS CONVERSATION explain exactly why I think it's a bad thing to disrespect your country. Would you like more reasons?
3) Is it admitting defeat? To refuse to argue over common sense? Or is it maturity? I guess as the old addage goes.. "If you have to be told you will never really know". I don't have time with you to argue the obvious and for the sake of other readers I don't want to take this argument back to the stone age.
4) The comments about you were very relevant. In every post you seem to try and hijack the Topic and align it with your own personal agenda. To me that agenda is clearly and simply just to project some sort of feminist self image in every thread in Qatar Living. It's a tad too contrived don't you think?
I will show you what I mean exactly in simpler langauge..
This forum is called "why does the EX-PATS hate lebanese". What have you added of any value to this topic?
And you have yet to answer some of my questions, like "What country were you expecting Lebanese to prefer?" (Similar wording).
There is one word to describe this behaviour: "TROLL"
hmmm well... The Lebanese as much as i am concerned are cool people cos i have got some Lebanese friends. But u get some people who are really proud specially the women, who think they are Cleopatra...... they don't smile when smiled at, they stare when we over come them when while driving.
but over all they are cool people i think...!!
I have only one word to describe someone who speaks about your country the way you do.. "MUJANASS".
You are a fake. I have serious reservations whether you have ever been to Lebanon.
Further, I intentionally ignored what you said because it is convulted and in my opion, a dead end argument. It has no substance and your objective is not clear. Fine for a schoolyard tiff but not on a Forum.
My point was that if you sincerely feel there is something about your country that needs fixing, then go about fixing it, not adevertising the problem to those who have neither the will nor means to do anything about it. Airing our dirty Laundry in a publuc forum only serves the egos of those who so badly would like to look down upon other peoples. I have yet to see another Nationality that criticises itself publicly here with such contempt as you seem to have for Lebanon and Lebanese.
Comment- This thread is like the "deaf dialogue".
Response- Seeing as it's a webpage, wouldn't you be better using the words "Blind Dialogue". LMAO! Well said champ.
I have been a patron of this website for months and often refrain from entering a conversation due to people like GYPSY impose their views on a thread and sidetrack it beyond the point of recognition. No research Needed, I am sad to say.
Further, should we start pulling out of the closet examples of where you have trashed people by going through their history and picking their quotes from old posts? This Forum is littered with examples of you doing so.
You are very brave sitting there attacking your country behind the safety of a computer screen. Very Brave Indeed. It really shows your quality. With talk like that though you would not last a single day in Lebanon, which is why I am 100% certain that you are NOT LEBANESE!.
GYPSY you are next...
Kellyhereos.ur responses always do my head in..You dont know if ur coming or going..plus u dont know how to intrpret peoples opinions...We didnt say our country is perfect, we r just highlighting our love for our country...
If i had explained that to my little toddler he wouldve understood that the first time...so thanks for your toddler comment..its very mature of u and to be honest i dont mind u calling us toddlers cos from my experience toddlers are more cluey than some adults i have come across and that includes you. So as for ur little tantrum....well thats funny...
We arent saying we are pefect but thank you for your lovely comments of how perfect we are...However i dont think we can be with "you claiming to be a leb"...
I wont respond to you anymore b/c i already have one toddler to deal with and hes much more pleasant than you..so i would rather waste my energy on him....
KellysHeroes: Lebanese guys are the most talented, elite, smart, eligant, sexy, pretigeous, classy guys on earth. And that Lebanese girls are the most beautiful, elegant, wonderful, fun, lovely, charming females on earth planet
-->In psychology and psychiatry,excessive narcissism is recognized as a severe personality dysfunction or personality disorder, most characteristically Narcissistic Personality Disorder, also referred to as NPD.
- To KellyHeroes, the photo you publish for your profile does't show the respect to the traitions of this country
Apple/Hmmm Lebanese!/Lebanese Asamarji said that they are better, beautiful, classy than other Arabs, but then one Lebanese w/ Canadian passport he met a day before said to him that he is better classy than the other lebanese?/Dude, sorry to ask this, dont you see the problem within your society?/Anyway, i'm enjoying listening now to my fave Lebanese singer(Nancy A.) "Inta Aih" :)))))) ---> I love this post !!!
"....why you have to be so aggressive and hit your head against the wall, trying to convince everybody that you guys "don’t have to prove that you are the best". ....... Aggression is disadvantage, my friend! Aggressive people cannot be the best initially......about Lebanese girls: yes they are sexy enough.. but also, way too aggressive... And all their “sex appeal” usually is gone by age of 30.. … they become shapeless and hopeless… so what is so “unique” about it???So calm down, relax, and enjoy yourself and your “uniqueness” quietly, without yelling and hurting guys of other nationalities…..." the complete superb post in http://www.qatarliving.com/node/28937
---->Very nice words from a Qatari lady
- The fact that there are so far 98 answers shows how QLs agree and support "why does the EX-PATS hate lebanese" (some only)
dear kelly,
before rocky get a chance to read this joke of a comment and make you look like an idiot as he have done so many times before, let me have a small and simple input myself.
we dont need gypsy, you or anyone to certify anything to us thank you oh so much, we are more then aware of who we are and what are our problems.
regarding the facebook channels, who made facebook a benchmark for testing lebanese loyalties or political views.
i my self own one of those 10's groups and i did it to meet girls because the other channels were too crowded,does that mean that in a party that fight males ( i dont get it ). even if we all beleived that this is a sectarian thing on facebook, are you telling me that if i typed , republicans, labor party, democrates i will not find anything... guess what! i found alot!!!
and 7abibi, saying your lebanese doesnt make you lebanese.how you act and talk defines you as who you are and beleive me if you say the sh*t ure saying in lebanon...let me put it this way, the next time you get a chance to migrate,do us all a favor and simply go for it so that people like me and rocky may find it easier to bash you as a western person.
and finally when you said that rocky have enough time to follow threads and copy past. MY GOD! have you actually said that. shall i remind you what was the name of the prick who did the exact same to me oh wait actually it was worse cz this prick copied from a diff topic not the same one as rocky did.
7abibi plz plz stop making it so dam easy for pple like me to make a fool out of you. while debating or arguing i like things to be a bit hard, its like youre telling us please guys come and bash me!
now i will leave the real bashing for my good friend rocky that i cant even imagine how he is going to reply.
so take it away rocky and if your sleeping dont forget to do this first thing in the morning right after coffee.
peace
you and other participants in this thread. Please please please. Tell those guys and the Austalian/Lebanese lady - who did not mention the "Lebanese back" syndrome in Australia - that you certify Lebanon is the best, ideal, wonderful country on earth planet and that Lebanese guys are the most talented, elite, smart, eligant, sexy, pretigeous, classy guys on earth. And that Lebanese girls are the most beautiful, elegant, wonderful, fun, lovely, charming females on earth planet. And in general the Lebanese people do like each other and help each other and are so peaceful and are in accord all the time
We are the perfect people living in the perfect country. Nothig is wrong with us or our country.
So there is nothing to criticize and nothing to comment about our country.
That smart guy commented on many points that I have raised but he did not come across why there are 10s of "Lebanese in Qatar" groups in facebook. And the imperialist/zionist conspiracy leading to seggregation of Lebanese inside facebook into various groups.
My God. This thread is like the "deaf dialogue". You ask them about types of tomatoes, they answer about Italian cars. So I recommend that you - Gypsy - and other pals not to waste your time here.
Again, the toddlers will say that am denying my origin and neglecting my country. Am 1000% proud of my country. I was given the chance many times to migrate to various countries and get a different passport but I refused.
One of the guys - I think Rocky - his time is so precious and valuable to keep replying every now and then. On the other hand, he has enough time to dig behind you and read your comments everywhere in QL.
I understand where Rocky is coming from. I am bit confused myself as to what exactly your question is that you expect him to answer?
Please enlighten us.
Further, I agree that you tone on this forum is aggressive, and that you post negatively when you really have no interest whatsoever in the topic.
Please explain...
So basically that big long speech that you just wrote means that you can't back up what you say. That you're just spouting off and when called on it you resort to personal attacks. Really that's pretty pathetic.
You could have just answered my question about why you think saying something negative about your home country is a bad thing and saved yourself a lot of typing. Instead you're trying to look smart and make me look bad. Nice try. However the real way to look smart is to answer my question, rather then resort to immature personal attacks.
Really personal attacks are basically admitting defeat. The swan song of the loser so to speak.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
hi i know that canda is one the most beautifull country in the word specaily when there is no snow and how often is that around two weeks per year maybe am wrong any way is it wrong to say lebanon is a beautifull country when juses had his fersit mircule in it (Kana) and is it wrong to say that u can dance, learn, have exotic food and u can swim and snow boarding in the same day anyway its enough that juses visited it to be great and thanks for ur time ....
Gypsy my Dear I really don't have time to sit here and explain every little thing to you, particularly those that are obvious.
I have seen a few of your posts around and starting to understand what is going on here. Firstly, you clearly have waaaaay too much time on your hands, much more than most people on QL. Secondly, your posts always seem immflammatory and stubborn, with a hint of resentment towards men, and/or gender identity issues. Finally your contradictions and misreferences are simply tiring. Why must we say and repeat so much for you to comprehend but a little?
In your last post, you claimed that I have not backed up my claims. Please for the sake of us all, explain to me beforehand exactly what I have not backed up? Should I have to support the fact that Unpatriotic sentiment is a negative quality? I think that is excepted by all the folks on this Thread. If you believe contrary to the norm, then I would kindly ask for your justifications.
For your sake as much as ours, I recommend that you have a think about how to improve you communication skills, and really think for a moment about what excatly people are trying to say to you, rather than focusing only on your immediate interpretation of what they have written.
Secondly I recommend a bit of soul searching. Your posts seem to be an attempt for people to view you in a particular way, genderless, forceful and independant. It has the stale resemblance of a mid last century feminism campaign. When people try so hard to project a particular self image, it is usually the image they would like people to see them as, rather than who they really are. I have often interpretted this as lonliness or a cry for help.
Peace
what about me rocky?
i would love a drink man.
maybe sometime me u and fminkara can share a drink and laugh about this.
Is that your picture? Hmmm... If so then I would forget to shake hands with alot of people when you're around... hehe.
All the best, thanks for such a sweet post.
Who was the guy asking about comedy? We have awesome comedy, mostly around politics and culture. Yeah we laugh at ourselves but perhaps not in the hatefully way that we are often laughed at by foreigners. Our jokes revolve more around the perculiarities of life and family relations, and incidents that might not occur except in our culture.
An Awesome Show, La Youmal on the Al-Mustaqbal (Future) network which is a political programme that makes hilarious jokes even about the polticians that it supports. Also Abu Riad, hehehe, I laugh just hearing his name, a show about a peculiar old guy.
FMINKARA, LMAO!, man uyou had me laughing for ten minutes. What an honest post I loved it STraight from the heart.. We gotta meet for a drink someday man.
Peace.
Rocky if you can't back up what you say with some kind of rational or argument then you shouldn't say it. Even kindergardners know not to make an argument without some kind of proof to back it up. Common sense really.
Also, why do people assume I have anything against Lebanese? The title of the thread is "Why do Ex-pats hate Lebanese?" I gave my opinion of why, which is that many of you have a tendency to talk to much about your country (in fact some of you are incapable of talking about anything else)and that you tend to act superior to others, especially other Arab ex-pats. This can be very annoying to some people.
Many Americans have a tendency to act the same way when overseas, and we all know how much they are liked.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
OMG...the discussion is still going on!!! well, too lengthy to read everything....
I love the Lebanese guy living next door...such an eye-candy!!! Every time we meet he never forgets to shake hands with me but eventually every time he just ignores my husband.....my husband is really pissed off...LOL. See the conclusion is other Expats are not just hating you, they are quite jealous of you as well....LOL...hey no offense pls.
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nadt why else would I ask the question?
I never met a Lebanese person but like to learn about different cultures.
I disagree with your comment. In the UK comedians choose various subject matter. Mostly they avoid ridiculing non-British nationalities, though sometimes they specialise in targeting their own culture/subculture.
i recalled that their is alot of lebanese bashers in QL, let me name some.
stealh-gypsy-Mister-miss interpreted-lamb-vasquez-SL-k97734KG-khanz-thetruth 321-aisha-faal tami
i've been waiting for a smart remak from on of these guys for 2 days but nothing.
what's the matter you started liking lebanese all of the sudden.
All comedians earn a living, making fun of all nationalites no matter where they r from? I wonder if that Q was really out of interest?
many countries have comedians who ridicule their countries leaders, customs and traditions.
I wondered if that happens with Lebanese or not.
do they have the ability to laugh at themselves?
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fminkara I see you have answered while I was answering.
thankyou I understand.
actualy my friend we are a people that love life and no matter if their is bullets going from every where we will still go out clubing and for ur first day in lebanese educational course i will tell u that we laough on everything and anything and if we didn't find anything to laugh and make jokes about we laough at our self yes there is jokes on abu abed (lebanese/tripoli) and Artien(lebanese/Armanien) and the most thing we laough at are homsi jokes some people would say that this is a very bad and noughty thing to do but even all of syria now say the same homsi jokes that we say so its just a joke on stuppedity not some one in perticular and if they are !!! what is our fault in this for example they sell cold ice..... as if there is hot ice and believe me all the jokes are true in a way or onther in the end just bare in ur minde what lebanese had been threw frim the syrian and if one day i see a jew who love natzi and franch people will thanks hitler for invading their country i will start to love the syrian rejim or their people cause they are the reason for everything wrong in leb and palestine
in the end thanks for ur question and i hope i reached u in way that helped understand our chapter today untill tommorow and a new chapter
what kind of question is that!?
are you trying to be funny or something?
Out of interest what do Lebanese people laugh at?
Do Lebanese comedians ever make jokes about the Lebanese or just other nationalities?
Seriously i would rather people talk about their love for their country than being negative towards it...We cant bury our heads in the sand, every country has its own problems but to highlight the positives and "brag" shouldnt be an issue.
Gypsy:
"You didn't explain at all why you think being unpatriotic is bad"
hehehe..
Sorry, I am not a kindegarten teacher..
NADT, I think you said exactly what is on my mind. Equally I welcome anyone else who loves their country (whatever that country may be), to tell us a bit about it.
In a country where approx 80% of the population are Expats, I suspect alot of you folks are missing your homelands.
gypsy!
why is in every thread that contains the word lebanon or lebanese you have something to say.
as nadt said, if the subject disturb you no one is forcing you.
Frankly i dont see whats wrong with being positive about ones country and expressing it....if people find it irritating they can easily just not read it, I find a some topics very boring on QL and i skip them and not read them...simple really...freedom of expression...
I'm sorry, but how is this sentence "Posting negative aspects about one's country on a public forum is on the otherhand, very unpatriotic." an explanation?? You didn't explain at all why you think being unpatriotic is bad, you simply said it is, Perhaps you need to look about the word explanation in the dictionary.
Also, please read my post, I was simply saying that saying constant positive things about ones country can get irritating to others. It is fine to like your country but when it is the only thing you are capable of talking about, it can become boring to some.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
Gypsy my dear, I remember specifically explaining in a very long post why exactly I think it's unpatriotic.
If you really need it I would be glad to repeat myself, but in a day and age of modern computing I think it will suffice if you simply read it as I just wrote it originally. (Please scroll up about 10cm - 20cm and read carefully). If you have any difficulties, please let me know and I would be glad to do a quick copy and paste of the relevant statements.
Furthermore..At what point was I talking about how great we are? Are we reading the same post?
Finally, "trying to pass it off as the greatest place on earth and the people the greatest on earth is a tad unrealistic", where do I start? Hehe..
Yes, I genuinely believe that it is the greatest country on earth, and more so for it's people. You might say to each his own. Curiously, what country are Lebanese people supposed to like more? In your opinion?
Why is it unpatriotic to say something negative about your own country? Personally I would say turning a blind eye to the problems in your country and pretending everything is A-ok is more unpatriotic because that doesn't solve any of the problems. Also nobody in the world wants to hear constant positive remarks about a country or nationality. Constantly talking about how great you are makes me think you have a bit of an inferiority complex (which is the impression I get from many Lebanese), I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Lebanon or Lebanese people, but trying to pass it off as the greatest place on earth and the people the greatest on earth is a tad unrealistic.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
i salute you rocky.
couldnt say it any better and that Ladies and gentelman is a true lebanese.
Reading most of your posts I can see that most of you are quite sensible rational people without any particular Grudge against the Lebanese. I was very pleased when I read this post and seeing that it hasnt been hijacked and used as a chance to take nasty swipes at my nationality.
I have to add my name to the list though (sadly) of people who have been the target of discrimination, sometimes in the strangest of means, and sometimes even from other Lebanese.
I think many of them have learned a lesson through the many posts who have preceeded this one. Many Nasty things were said even on this site, and I am glad they were corrected.
"FMinkara". It does seem to draw attention when somebody knows our origin. Usually you find those who use that as a chance to bite at you are acting out of some deficiency in their own life / identity.
You will find some people hell bent on giving you a hard time based on who you are. I deal with this as I see fit, nicely if possible.
"KellyHero"- In response to some of your awfully negative and uneccesary comments:
Comment- "Truth hurts"
Response- Based on the discussion on this thread, there seems to be no lack of truth, nor any need for anybody to be hurting anyone.
Comment- "Critisizing self before critisizing others does not mean one is not patriotic."
Response- Self reflection is important for the progress and rationality of any intellectual person / people. Posting negative aspects about one's country on a public forum is on the otherhand, very unpatriotic.
Comment- "Some guys here talk about "Lebanese engineers do not live 6 in a room" somewhere else. In our country some people are searching the trash to eat. Nothing to hide." -
Response- Well done! Where is the grace and charm that we are famous for? In what country are people not searching through the trash for food? Nonetheless there are good reasons why people do not air their dirty laundry in public.
Comment - "If you read Lebanese newpapers or watch tv you will see ads by banks financing plastic surgery."
Response- Another unusually negative and very unnecessary remark. If you watch a show called "Judge Judy"(USA), or "Ripley's Believe it or not" you will get and equally strange picture about americans, not to mention what "The Toyko Shock Boys" will make you assume of Japan... etc.
Comment- You toddlers are a shame to my country but I have to admit that you hold the same nationality that I hold.
Response- If your identity is such a burden that you must "admit" to it, then I invite you to surrender your ID/Passport to the Interior Ministry or at the nearest Lebanese embassy, and find a country where you feel more at home. I hear alot of Western countries will be glad to take you in and give you a Citizenship. They need people like you to do the work that their citizens don't want to do. Sounds like a fair deal to me.
Comment- You guys when you meet a new Lebanese fellow, your first question is "from which part of Lebanon you are" if you did not get a clue about his religion, you start asking more specific questions to know his/her religion and sect. then the next step is start asking to which political group you belong."
Response- This has come up many times before in previous posts and is absolute Rubbish. This is an old relic that has long passed. If I want to know more about someone its because:
1) To see if we are related;
2) To ensure that this person really is Lebanese. After all we have over half a million foreigners in our country, many of whom have received citizenships as a result of foreign influence, which is in any case completely in violation of our laws.
3) This is a practice common in the middle east (less so in modern Lebanon) and is not to perpetrate discimination.
Please lets avoid making these assumptions anymore.
Comment- Guys. Please ask yourself what's wrong with you before asking and blaming others about your tragedy and crisis. Grow up.
Response- I am hoping this doesn't mean what I think it means.. In any case the Lebanese have a very legitimate claim when it comes to foreign interference with tragic consequences. No Lebanese from any political alignment would deny this.
Peace...
amen to that alexa
I agree that there were a couple of times when I have been "warned" from "cunning Lebanese who would sell you the moon/stars/air with their sweet lips and who would cheat/lie all the time just to rip off your money...etc" but these things were said in front of other Lebanese friends & in a funny/teasing way. There was no hatred or discrimination when it was said. I don't think that people/expats hate Lebanese! Why should we. There is the good, the bad, the ugly..in every nation :-)
fminkara,
when you say "from what i see u r a syrien person or else and u really hate the lebanese people" then you are also assuming that all syrians hate lebanese, which I disagree with. You are simply parcticing the same topic of this thread, but against syrians! Right?
You also said that
"those who deny thier origin are less of people( more like animals they don't know who there father is and where are they from all what they care about is food and ...."
LOL...this is funny...it reminds me if a thread (Polygamy in North America). Some people will disagree with you about not knowing their fathers & comparing this to animals :-) ...go read that thread...
asamarji,
I guess you have put your hands on some of the reasons that makes the Lebanese different/unique ("because we dress nice or because we have beautiful women")....so I guess some might not like it that the Lebanese women (and the whole society in general) lead a very "open" life style and they get provoked with the "very open" dresses that these women wear ;-) (no offense, dear)
But seriously, I think that some of the things you pointed out can perfectly answer fminkara/the question of this topic.
Here goes:
1."wut really seriously pisses me off are the lebanese that have western nationality and think that they are better then lebanese.
just shows how ignorant they are"
2."i cant stand a person saying am canadian lebanese or australian lebanese or french lebanese...its either your lebanese or not"
3."alot of pple are loosing interest in saying " i am lebanese ".
4."alot of lebanese join gangs and start doing really nasty things. If a lebanese was to act in that manner, he/she shouldnt be called lebanese"
Lebanese are generally nice people. I mostly enjoy the Lebanese senior citizens. They have so much manner, education, fun, and full of lovely old stories about Lebanon in the good old days.
Don't worry about some ignorant idividuals who haven't learned, yet, to appreciate Lebanese people. I also hope that you guys look at Palesineans, Jordanians, Syrians...etc with love & respect.
Cheers!
"if they mind, then they don't matter. If they don't mind, they still don't matter"
Every person having a problem is throwing it on others.
If you check facebook you will notice how many "Lebanese in Qatar" groups are there. Guess the Americans and the Western World and The Israelis are behind this "conspiracy".
Critisizing self before critisizing others does not mean one is not patriotic. Every person is proud of his country but one has to be realistic and know where he stands.
Some guys here talk about "Lebanese engineers do not live 6 in a room" somewhere else. In our country some people are searching the trash to eat. Nothing to hide. Everything is in the media.
If you read Lebanese newpapers or watch tv you will see ads by banks financing plastic surgery.
You toddlers are a shame to my country but I have to admit that you hold the same nationality that I hold.
Now am thinking. Is there a special mark on our forehead saying "Lebanese" and once people see that mark start fighting you and hating you.
You guys when you meet a new Lebanese fellow, your first question is "from which part of Lebanon you are" if you did not get a clue about his religion, you start asking more specific questions to know his/her religion and sect. then the next step is start asking to which political group you belong.
Guys. Please ask yourself what's wrong with you before asking and blaming others about your tragedy and crisis. Grow up.
Asmaraji...Fat Pizza is loosley based on how some lebanese behave in Sydney.Its is a comdey and is exagerated... I'm surprised you believe Fat Pizza represents all the lebanese in Australia. Their are other gangs here too from other cultures. I agree their have been a few incidents where the lebanese really misrepresented their culture.as there has been with many other nationalities..doesnt mean when these things happen the culprits represent their culture...there good and bad in every culture...
There are a lot of very hard working lebanese people who contribute to australian society....
This topic seems like dejavu....
I personally can't stand anyone who thinks they are better then someone else. Especially if you say one nationality is better then another. Perhaps that's why I don't get along with very many Lebanese people.
"I fight with love and I laugh with rage, you have to live light enough to see the humor and long enough to see some change." Ani Difranco
First goodmornig to every one.
Second to return to our subject many people say maybe they hate u well in fact many of them had told me in my face ---- ur so better then other lebanese they are ---- and even when we worked for a lebanese company one of the biggest in the world they used to say the lebanese people are ---- and they are stealing our money, while in the truth this lebanese company hired and gave them cars free mobile + paying their bills believe my last company was very nice to them but they will always bite the hand that feed them and take care of them look at leb and u will know what am I talking about
their is absolutly nothing wrong in taking the benefits of the west but thats not really what i was referring to.
nadt you lived in australia so you know something called FAT PIZZA.
fat pizza and the lebanese in it are the most discrasfull thing i ever saw.
i've also heard that alot of lebanese join gangs and start doing really nasty things over their.
that is exactly the behavior am targeting and lebaling as non-lebanese. it is my beleif that if a lebanese was to act in that manner, he/she shouldnt be called lebanese.
Your Behaviors is controlling the way how ppl around you act to you its not a matter of your (nationality, Religion or your Race ) because all these terms are considered (in my opinion) as labels & Tags just to recognize and make things easier !
Novitta couldnt agree with u more...except its a confronting thing for people to admit that it may be them they dont like so they have to drag their nationality into it..
Asmaraji..u r always referring to lebanese/western in a negative way.... I am Lebanese and grew up in a western country and not everything is black and white....and no we arent all pretentious...I proudly say I'm Lebanese but i have a lot of western influence as well...and to be honest theres a lot of positives/negatives in both cultures.
If i behave western in a certain way it doesnt mean im tuning my back on my culture . Whats wrong in taking the good things from both cultures..Especially if u r living in that country.
Actually in QL there seems to be too much Western and Lebanese bashing?
if someone hate you ... it is not because you are LEBANESE, it is because just HE/SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU. As simple as that. Then again it is just IMO.
and they are all very nice people. they seem more western/european than other arabs, that's for sure.
in my experience, there are people in every country who think they are better than other nationalities. i won't deny that egyptians face some discrimination is some parts of the world, but there was no shortage of them while i was living in cairo who discriminated against africans.
there are racists in every culture that i have seen, unfortunately. i see it here too.
IMHO - part of the problem is that many don't take responsibility for their problems, or their country's problems. it's easier to blame others around you. some people in western countries do it when they blame immigrants for all their ills. some arabs do it when they blame all arab wars/problems on the west. discrimating against others makes people feel superior and it's easier than facing reality.
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Nope, don't hate lebanese. One of my closest friends is lebanese.
I think you generalize far too much.
"Life is life - whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage." ~Sri Aurobindo
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please not again!
Maybe Lebanese people need more famous ambassadors to improve their stereotypes.
perhaps a Lebanese James Bond, comedian like Jim Carey, or a band like the Spice Girls?
Oh i forgot we also export opium and Dead Americans (no offence meant)
you can say positive things about my country like how we treat our guests (e.g. the South Koreans). We are giving them a time of their lives. We certainly dont want them to leave so early. We want them to enjoy a taste of our hospitality, frienship, and specially see our culture.
How can I provide proof that I am a poor Afghani. Send you some landmines or Ak-47s?
I dont know exactly your nationality, though I can read in your profile that you're an Afghani but i'm not very sure of that:))
Quote fr knox:
"A message to all the people on QL. dont say anything about my country."
-->Can't i say even positive comment on your country?:D
If people dislike you or your country give them a reason to change their minds and show them by example that they are wrong!
Calling someone 'not Pure Lebanese' because they choose to live in another country is just stupid!
*sighs*
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Dont think that due to bad apples you met from certain nationalies, then you'll come up to a conclusion that they're all the same? In fairness to KellyHeroes, seems what he meant in his comment. I'm sorry, but we dont have basis in this arguments...that all Jordanians or Egyptians hates Lebanese. Wallah haram to say like this. There maybe some dude but not all:)))
Turn on your radio, and listen to good music!
sorry if u feel that am a little bit or maybe very offencive about it and am sure that u feel the same. thats y there is such things that can help u to relax and get the anger out of ur system to restart ur next day better to go threw the same thing again my advise to u is to find a way that will help u relax and get over the issue for a while and reliving it again the next morrining cause if u don't find a way to refresh ur self u will explode like what happened to me;-)
If one of my countrymen was bashing my country, you know what will i do?
First of all I will judge his physical strength by his appearance and if he looks weak then i will beat the living hell outta him. If he looked stronger than me than I will find a strong person and then we will both beat him.
This is what I will do.
A message to all the people on QL. dont say anything about my country.
Hey buddy! we can be a bit cooler discussing your topic, cant we?
I agree that your subject is very true, coz even an Asian like me have noticed that:(((
But dont you think its happening in every continent of this world? even the subcontinent asians and the far east asians are saying the same thing, that they are better than the others. And maybe the American, Canadian, British also are claiming the same(I dont have basis though)
sadly i have a trust issue. i trust pple easily and treat everyone as a friend. i had no legal paper binding me to this fellow since i was only renting a master bedroom in his villa ( no contract need it ).
at least ive learned a lesson.
what can i say? life is filled wih surprises.
sorry if i posted my sentence in arabic i should know that some one will not understand it and if u need any help i would love to help u in anyway possible and the thing that really pissed me off is this guy kellys hereos. what would u do if u saw some one trashing ur country and he clam to be ur follow country man?
this question is for everyone to answer me what would they do tell me maybe am wrong correct me please if am wrong
asamarji-
I did not mean to offend you by using the word Lebanese.
As to your rental deposit problem- since the guy who took your money was not a Qatari and has to be here on some kind of visa- if you make a report to the police he should be easy to trace!
I hope you catch the thief who took your money. Did you make any official complaints?
my dear why dont you solve the lebanese conflict and find me a good job in lebanon and ill be in back home before you can spell lebanon.
isnt money the reason why we are all here.
am not saying speaking or taking another nationality is a crime.
but it is a crime when a lebanese revoke his heritage and nationality for another.and same goes for all nationalities not just lebanese. am i right?
Thank you for the translation. next time I will do my research before asking someone.
asamarji-
Obviously you are not Lebanese since you live off of Qatari's. If you want to be "pure" Lebanese go back to Lebanon.
Whats wrong with someone embracing their new home? So what if someone wants to speak English or French? It does not make them any less of who they are.
These men can dress any way they want- isn't wearing pants and dress shirt and tie from the west- brought to Lebanon during the days of the Colonies?
well i beleive in allah apple. and yes that was a life lesson although a bit hard to the pocket.
i was only asking for some justice.
the problem is simple.
the value of the word lebanese is degrading to a comon thing.
alot of pple are loosing interest in saying " i am lebanese ".
this fact need to be fought in anyway possible.
i love my country and my countrymen/women and i hate seing them get into this vortex.
lebanese pride needs to be restored to its fullest so that lebanon may survive.
well sorry if u miss understood my words am not talking about the locals. if the other EX-PATS hate us because all the locals i meet in the arab regions love and respect us and we love and respect them too.
for translating my arabic: those who deny thier origin are less of people( more like animals they don't know who there father is and where are they from all what they care about is food and ....).
Sorry to hear your story, Asamarji:(( alot of pretentious and liars in Doha. At least you got some lessons in life, next time you rent from someone regardless of their nationality even locals, make sure you take everything you paid in writing.
Anyway, i'm sure Allah will return it to you in double amount or maybe triple, you believe that?
asamarji-
Thats like saying all black people are crooks! LOL. Not true!
Glad you worked out your problems at work.
Apple- looks like the problem is within the society is they all have problems with themselves.
its not a society problem its an individual issue.
let me give you a small example.
some time ago i visited ausi to see some friends (lebanese origin ).
when i started talking in arabic they said nooooooo we are australian and in this house we dont speak arabic we only speak english.
now my reaction was turning my back and going away. either you are a lebanese with all what the lebanese word stands for or your not.
their is no middle ground.
i cant stand a person saying am canadian lebanese or australian lebanese or french lebanese.
its either your lebanese or not or say that your a lebanese with a canadian passport else say your a canadian and get it over with but never ever think that you have the right to discuss a labnese related issue with me ever again.
once again KellysHeroes i really loved the way u have a discussion throwing lies and calling people name and once again without any bases and once again u attack ur country (if ur lebanese) from what i see u r a syrien person or else and u really hate the lebanese people or maybe ur lebanese when ur dad !!!! i really don't but i can tell u one thing if u really hate lebanese this much why are u calling ur self lebanese not something else i don't know become and american citezen or canadian or some europian country y are u forcing ur self to be lebanese change ur nationality if ur think ur better !!! anyway the next time try to be more patriotic if u know what this word means
fminkara-
If you don't want to be one of them then leave their country and stop taking their money. You are working and living in a foreign country- get over yourself. And your Arabic makes no sense to me- I can't read it the way you typed it.
What a way to have a discussion " replies are not accepted."
Can you kindly translate the arabic into english. I love reading your post. unfortunately I am not lebanese so i dont know arabic
well honestly i solved the problem couple of days back.
i just fiered some and switched the rest to other departments.
i think it takes more then couple of liars to send me home PAL.
come to think of liars, last month a guy called richard african american married to a philipino girl and have couple of kids rent me a room, took the freaking deposit and flew out of the country with my money and left me to fight with the qatari owner.
now this richard guy is the first american i do business with, can i generalize here or what?
Lebanese Asamarji said that they are better, beautiful, classy than other Arabs, but then one Lebanese w/ Canadian passport he met a day before said to him that he is better classy than the other lebanese?
Dude, sorry to ask this, dont you see the problem within your society?
Anyway, i'm enjoying listening now to my fave Lebanese singer(Nancy A.) "Inta Aih" :))))))
It is hard to overcome liars in your life. I know exactly how it feels when different people repeatedly lie to you and are all from the same group of people. It is very difficult to not generalize because of them.
Wht don't you confront these liars in a mature and honest way?
I see this debate without any grounds or foundation.
Never felt that we are hated mentioned above. On the contrary, we are always greeted and respected like any other nationality.
I notice a contradition in fellow Lebanese posts. One guy is talking about being hated (acting like the Jews vs Nazis) and other guy talking about superiority of Lebanese (Nazi thinking).
For God's sake. I never recall a single Lebanese girl who won Miss World contest. Only one who won Miss Universe (her mother ws Bulgarian).
We dress well? what about Italians and French for example.
Currently, we have the highest rate and guess we have achieved a world record for plastic surgery to the extent that Lebanese banks are now financing such surgeries.
Unfortunately, some Lebanese think that "God created us and broke the mould" and here we are facing a specimen of such mentalities.
hey pal ur such a s sensitive guy!!!if u dont want to work with other nationalities better go home.....
The idea of dressing and speaking is to be one of them (men nakara asloh fla aslla lah if can get what am saying now pleas dom replies are not accpeted and for kellyshereos please don't be silly person i can't hate anything or any one more then just for bieng clueless this will let me reach one conclustion that ur not a lebanese or u r realted in away or onther to a dum people(!!!!) as for atacking ur country i can't see anyone over here attacking their country but u!!!! what can i conclude from this !!!!!!!! once again its not about if we won beauty pagent or word cup or i don't know its not about our dresses or our women its about who we are in a wide view u should really study lebanese more to know how they act and reply before pretending to be one of them please once again keep ur stuppedity away from me i don't like to get involve with such thing cause its really not a human character it belong to animal kingdom!!!! and to be clear its kellysheroes
trust me jasskat i would like nothing better then to be wrong in the lieing section i truly am because that will make my life much easier.
some points raised by the people are definitely worth remembering.
fminkara-
You hate when Lebanese act western and then hate is when they act like locals in UAE? Not everyone can be an exact mold of you!
asamarji- I cannot stand it when people lie non-stop. I sympathize with you on that one. Although I have not dealt with one specific set group of people who lie, my husband has and unfortunately does not trust a certain nationality. Hopefully it was just a bad example as it is hard to believe an entire population are liars and cheaters.
where the bad west! review history alexa.
this is not science fiction, this is fact.
you actually think that all the wars that has been faught in the arabic regions were just for the fun of it while the west sat and enjoyed the view. my friend why dont you get real?
this area main cancer(israel), isnt that enough west intervention in our affairs. not to mentions anything else ( iraq, iran, bin laden, sovient union, etc.. etc.. etc..)
as for lebanese with western nationality, i met some lebanese canadian guy the other day and he started by saying that his canadian passport made him more classy then the regular lebanese.
thats the reason i said what i said becausei know that alot of pple think like that (sadly).
Dont you think its time to unite once and for all, again? and leave those negative attitudes behind? no one is better than the others, every societies have ugly and beautiful people:)) i think is just so childish to say that our womans are beautiful than yours, we are more classy better than them(no offense dude)
As an asian expat, i noticed that all of you have something in your country and culture that you can be proud of!:)))
I just have one wish at the moment, that ALL of you Arabs will have unity, love & respect to one another. Insh'allah!
There is no difference. They are all from the same race, they speak same language and generally have same religion. When US finishes with its mid east agenda, maybe map of Middle East will not be the same as we know now and which ever country merges with the other shall become one. Bottom line is all arabs are same. There are same qualities (pls. read opposite) present in all of them.
fminkara-
Who cares how they dress- maybe they dress like locals because it is more comfortable and a way to stay more cool. The point is, you judged them on how they dressed- not the other way around.
I don't understand what you are saying about the ID- doesn't make sense to me the way it is worded. Please explain.
happy happy i do understand that clearly but ive seen it so much just in one nationality(again not saying who) and it is really giving me a bad time at work.
its like its in their genetics to lie or something.
i donno how to explain this. maybe its in my head but ive worked with these pple in KSA, Dubai and now qatar.
and all of them and beleive me i know alot of them LIE non STOP whenever they can as if its air they breath.
do you know of who i am talking about?
The most important point I have found is that the JORDANIAN/palistanian consider the GULF as their own country, and behave as if we are invading it. To go into further detail they try to act, dress and talk like the gulf people(I saw them in UAE) and one of them even said that because they can't have an ID in qatar they are bringing lebanese and phelipino... and that was on my second day in QATAR what a way to say welcome consider yourself at home. What I as expecting was more like "Welcome to this country, join us and make yourselves at home".
wut really seriously pisses me off are the lebanese that have western nationality and think that they are better then lebanese.
just shows how ignorant they are.
Being polite to your face and a dirty talker behind your back, has nothing to do with a certain nationality.
It is something you see people do to others of the same nationality or different nationalities.
It is a ridiculous vice which reflects weakness,lack of confidence and inability to confront and express one’s self appropriately.
lebanese is a proud people that's true.
and yes we are full of our self, that's just nature cant change that.
but yes we are all arabs, united by heart but destroyed by the west.
the superiority attitude of everyone! but the fact is.. all of you are the same:))) Arabs!
I dont think so thats the reason dude! coz there's alot of egyptian, syrians, palestinians, jordanians having beautiful womens and good paying jobs.
and ALL of you(Jordy,Lebo,Pales,Egypt,Syrian) are beautiful in my eyes!:)
asamarji-
Your post seems very full of yourself:
"is it because we dress nice or that we get the good jobs.
or is it because we have beautiful women or is it class related issue."
Maybe they don't like you because you think you are better than everyone else.
I personally don't have a problem with any race or culture- just individuals who are not nice.
My first post is just my own humble opinion! my own observation as an expat in M.E.:)))
i've also noticed that fminkara and like you am trying to figure out why. this is a very important disscussion here.
i am facing this problem with other nationalities(am not gonna mention who) they say one thing in your face and talk durty about you once you turn your back. one time i over heard them.
this is where the saying( el mou3amaleh mitil el rassor ).
i can see it in alot of pple eyes, this strange hate or envy.
i simply want to know why?
i realize that every nationality is unique but i sense this targetting toward lebanese. is it because we dress nice or that we get the good jobs.
or is it because we have beautiful women or is it class related issue.
i just cant pintpoint it exactly but its really annoying. although i have met some other nationalities guys that i take pride in calling them my brother but as for the majority, its just crazy out their.what do you think?
i was still typing my comment and i thought i'll be the first one to post,LoL!
maybe they just hate you :)
LOL
...this thread will turn into rascist and cultural bashing soon:)
Mr. fminkara, are you sure w/ your feelings? maybe you are just too paranoid??? :D
Well, i know somehow you are right in some point. But actually they all hate each others, there is no unity of Arab in the Middle East, even the Gulf states. Everyone is jealous from one another, and ALL of them think that they're great and better than the others. But the reality, they all have their own unique qualities.
Dont you think that its time for all Arabs to unite and help each others?
Btw, dont forget to mention the Syrians:))
Simply because lebanese are more elegant & intellectual then other Arabs ( with all due respect to other nationalities)
too late in the nite to write posts i guess...
live in peace n harmony.. all Arab brotherin!
I am Egyptian, well traveled. I haven’t seen discrimination against me due to my nationality neither have it crossed my mind "hating" or looking down at a person based on their nationality or what country they come from.
I know the political situation sometimes tense and heats things up. It makes one, sometimes, all worked up against certain countries/nationalities. But that should not justify hatred.
I, for one, have Lebanese, Palestinian, Qatari, American, Syrian, Egyptian, Pakistani and Iraqi friends/acquaintances.
Maybe your personal experience was not all that good?
I find Lebanese people, whom I met, very nice and they love life and full of life too.
All the best
Salam
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Lebanese tend to be snobs...thats perhaps why... rest could be as they say 'history' in more ways than one....
Egyptians are too loud... Jordanians are too close for comfort .. its funny you did not mention Syrian.. or is it that obvious....
Ne wayz... i think its best to bury the hatched n 'live n let live' this should be your 'mantra'
wow you've met every expat in the world?! I wish I could do that :P
Don't generalize.
I'm not an expat but Allah Yi7ya Lebnan ^_^
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