THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS COLLAPSING

Ronin
By Ronin

QL'ers.. here's a video of an architect who is showing evidence of how the towers were brought down... Up to you to decide on the veracity and the "Truth" of it. I'm just putting it out there...

I would like to hear the opinions of structural engineers in QL. I'm sure we have loads of them here as there is a construction boom in Doha right now.. Please give your inputs...Thanks

Give it time to buffer (load) the video so that you can watch it without any interruptions. It's 2 hours long but not boring at all.

http://stoplying.ca/articles/07/sept/090307dvd.php

By Solid84• 4 Feb 2008 10:27
Solid84

What makes you think that conspiracy theorists on this site would read the link you posted? It is just more "government propaganda" dude!

By thatguy• 3 Feb 2008 21:47
thatguy

the real truth about 911...

finally i have been discussing this video with multiples of people over the last day or so... two of which are actual construction engineers... one of which worked for the army core of engineers...

now first off... every one who thinks or thought this was a good video... and showed the americans to be worse than you thought... its ok... we are still good people

please go threw and read this site... it will discredit everything that guy has done... not to mention it was put together by a hand full of controlled demolition experts...

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg3.html

thank you and you can now trust Americans again

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By Ragnarock Raider• 3 Feb 2008 14:49
Ragnarock Raider

Reminds me of a popular T-shirt you often see:

CANADA....USA Done RIGHT! LOL =p

Stay safe all.

Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 14:37
Gypsy

I'd prefer a global orgy to global war. Gives the whole "make love not war" saying whole new meaning.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 14:23
Solid84

A global Orgy?

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 14:06
Gypsy

Solid I believe that's what the US has been saying for the past 8 years, and look where it's gotten them.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 12:56
Rating: 3/5
Solid84

The world can go F itself.

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 12:13
Gypsy

Lucky for you maybe, unfortunate for the rest of the world.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Sadiq• 3 Feb 2008 12:08
Sadiq

you are Canadian and can't vote in the U.S.

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

Abraham Lincoln

By Scarlett• 3 Feb 2008 12:05
Scarlett

Thanks for making sense...sorry others don't bother to think logically...

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.

--Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 12:01
Gypsy

Surely I'm allowed to not vote for conservatives Solid? People can believe whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to vote for them.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 11:55
Solid84

Thats a very diplomatic answer. Typical "Liberal fascism".

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 11:49
Gypsy

Nope, no conservatives. Conservatives are what's wrong with the world today.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 11:44
Solid84

No conservatives. Figures.

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 11:38
Gypsy

Nope, I don't like his positions on the issues.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 11:35
Solid84

Would you vote for Bobby Jindal? He is anti WASP as it gets.

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 10:45
Gypsy

Yup, slipped him in, then shot him. :S

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Sadiq• 3 Feb 2008 10:36
Sadiq

for awhile.

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

Abraham Lincoln

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 10:31
Gypsy

I'm anti WASP. We've had a WASP for the last....oh I don't know, how old is the United States? It's time for something different.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Sadiq• 3 Feb 2008 10:29
Sadiq

Dick Cheney was hunting nearby.

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

Abraham Lincoln

By Sadiq• 3 Feb 2008 10:27
Sadiq

wow that hurts, what did you have in mind? WASP?

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

Abraham Lincoln

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 10:10
Gypsy

Ron Paul, Jeez people, cause the US isn't in bad enough shape as it is we need an isolationist who doesn't believe in social programs in the White House. Enough with old white guys, the White House needs something new.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Gypsy• 3 Feb 2008 10:07
Gypsy

I remember that CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Coorporation) got the designer of the world trade centers on air minutes after the building fell and he basically said what Plankton said. That this was a perfectly designed hit at the Trade Center's. Doesn't surprise me at all, I'm sure they were planning it for years and the design specs are on the internet.

"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco

By Solid84• 3 Feb 2008 09:29
Solid84

By anonymous• 3 Feb 2008 08:31
anonymous

Too many Fairy tales...

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I have seen a twelve toe stripper, I have seen one breasted stripper, I have seen a brainless stripper, but never in my life a one legged stripper! Quentin tarantino-Planet Terror--

By Sadiq• 3 Feb 2008 04:56
Sadiq

this falls in line with the U.S. providing a map to the Japanese showing where all the ships were at Pearl Harbor. What a bunch of idiots.

So if nobody voted or wants Bush how did he get in again?.... let me guess, the little men from Roswell rigged the elections.

If an "I" beam looks like an "H" why isn't it an "H" beam?

Oh yeah..Khalifa Tower is built on a "core" type structure check it out.

By canuckcrazy• 3 Feb 2008 01:56
canuckcrazy

i must say i had to really change my outlook on things the video will speak for itself as well as the insurance changes prior to the "attack"

By anonymous• 3 Feb 2008 01:40
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

For one moment, I though that Adey was saying Red_Pope instead of red Coat.

LOL

PM

Don't forget to pickup your Red Umbrella, wear your Red shoes, Wear you red skirt, wear your red scarf, wear your red Florissant eye glaSSES. Everything has to be red for you.

I'm having a bad red dream of PM wearing all those red artifacts.

Lol

The Red Pope of Qatar Living

I have seen a twelve toe stripper, I have seen one breasted stripper, I have seen a brainless stripper, but never in my life a one legged stripper! Quentin tarantino-Planet Terror--

By adey• 3 Feb 2008 00:41
adey

Well I'll get in my Red Coat pyjamas and dream of burning down DC, again, me thinks.

Night all.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 3 Feb 2008 00:25
adey

It's good to let off steam.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By MattyHardingLower• 3 Feb 2008 00:21
MattyHardingLower

Get a room guy's. Or a storeroom, depending where you teach!

Humanity is simply a parade of fools....and im right at the front twirling the biggest baton anyones ever seen.

By adey• 3 Feb 2008 00:16
adey

Scots, not Scotts, are British.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 3 Feb 2008 00:14
adey

Keep up the banjo practice. :)

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By thatguy• 3 Feb 2008 00:12
thatguy

please watch the video...

thats all i ask...

because first off... to melt steel... you need more than jet fuel to melt it

just watch the video

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By Plankton• 3 Feb 2008 00:09
Plankton

ok,

maybe not like a baseball bat...

but take 10 coke cans, stack them on top of each other... spaced with iced cubes... same result ;-).

It just wont deform, melt destabilize uniformly.

The bat is just metaphorically speaking, something that most none technical people can picture, but close enough.

By adey• 3 Feb 2008 00:07
adey

needs a measure of wit, not much I grant you, so they must be getting it from another source. :)

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By thatguy• 3 Feb 2008 00:03
thatguy

glad to hear pm hahahahahahaah

just had to make sure your views werent skewed...

even though i do like alot of ron pauls ideas...

i will not be voting for anyone... because i refuse to vote between a dousche and a jack @ss

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By thatguy• 3 Feb 2008 00:00
thatguy

i would like to go ahead and say to you that no ... the building can not be consierded like a baseball bat... exepescially considering the about of anchoring that building had on its foundation...

please watch the video

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By jauntie• 2 Feb 2008 23:59
jauntie

going to bed.

Here's a site to read (no-one will, but what the heck)

Niters

http://architecture.about.com/library/weekly/aa091201a.htm

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:58
adey

Do you teach children with that mouth and, more worryingly, that grammar?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By Plankton• 2 Feb 2008 23:55
Rating: 2/5
Plankton

Hu Guys,

I am not a structural engineer, but some other kind of engineer... and I did not watch the above movie.

Beside these, I am not sure if these is the right format here to form a opinion on such a story as 911.

Some years ago I had the blue prints of the at that time already collapsed twin towers in my hands.

I don't remember all the facts correctly.

The buildings were built on a inner supportive core and a outer skin.

The inner core was built around 8 elevator shafts (if I remember correctly). Each shaft was built up from vertical I-beams (H-shaped steel beams). each was about 60 -100mm wide and about half as thick, with a material thickness of about 1inch. There was so much steel in the center core that it is hard to imagine that anything could have destroyed it.. sort of a solid steel core.

These core (beside the outer skin) is balancing the entire building above it, like one tries to balance an baseball bat on a finger. If you remove part of the outer skin, the balancing becomes a bit "uneven".

These would have happened if for instance a airplane pierced it.

The same stands for the inner core, a rectangular framework of vertical i-beams. If a airplane, missile or what ever else pierced the outer skin would reach the inner core, one side would have been weekend at first. These would make the balance very uneven. It would be difficult to hold the baseball bat steady in balance and hey its a heavy bat !

If a fire would further weaken the inner core, fueled by for instance yet fuel. Then it could eventually lead to a collapse. But then a fire several years before, did not have similar consequences... but ok no yet fuel was in play that time.

If one managed to position the baseball bat on a ice cube and one applied heat with a torch to the cube, would the cube slowly decent without falling over ?

Questions over questions... but then the answer seams pretty obvious.

By anonymous• 2 Feb 2008 23:51
anonymous

you Americans are sooooo... honest :-))

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:49
adey

Abu American is my handler, it's all an act you know, to keep THEM off my tail!

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By thatguy• 2 Feb 2008 23:47
thatguy

yeah but your just a women =) hahahaha just kidding...

honestly who do you want... please god dont say obahma or hillary because then i know that your just watching to much news

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:46
adey

such bile

Timothy McVay lives on I guess

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:40
adey

When can I pick up my gadgets? A ha, now my evil machinations can truly start BWHA HA HA HAAAAAAAA

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:31
adey

My mate stood for Parliament for them, twice! got 300 votes each time.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:28
adey

I can do that Bond thing where I throw a bowler hat onto the hat stand without looking, would that give me an edge at the interview?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:25
adey

Just because you suffer from a self loathing hatred of your country does not mean they are all out to get you.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By jauntie• 2 Feb 2008 23:23
jauntie

who was one of the architects who worked with the Japanese Architect who designed the Twin Towers - I haven't yet ...

YET

By jauntie• 2 Feb 2008 23:19
jauntie

do you miss Screaming Lord Sutch as much as I do? I never actually joined his Raving Loony Party when I was a youngster, but these days I sort of wonder why I didn't!

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:15
adey

what's the pay like?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:11
adey

Oh no! Not you too!

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:10
adey

That would not work, have you never seen Mission Impossible? They are clever buggers, they would just put a photo of the room in front of the camera!

Do I now get free membership of 'The bonkers conspiracy club'?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:06
adey

Too many spies on this site, am I the only one here who doesn't work for Mossad?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By Cornellian• 2 Feb 2008 23:05
Cornellian

Hmmm I think u should re-paint it, put a camera in the chandelier and find out who is tampering with ur wall and with what intentions *looks around suspiciously*

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 23:01
adey

My wall dried too quickly, way beyond the natural rate a wall should dry at. I suspect that whilst I went to the shops the CIA came in with hair dryers and tampered with it - what do you think? Should I write a book about my incontrovertible proof or just post a video on youtube?

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By Cornellian• 2 Feb 2008 23:01
Cornellian

Not me, Adey. But I have painted my room before...I'm a multi-talented chicka :D

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

By thatguy• 2 Feb 2008 22:59
thatguy

hahahaha its funny... all of the american citizens want ron paul to win... but non of the politicians want ron paul to win... so that means even though we vote on a president... he wont win... which shows that it is not a country of democracy...

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By Cornellian• 2 Feb 2008 22:49
Cornellian

Adey, atleast it's more exciting than watching ur wall dry :D

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

By adey• 2 Feb 2008 22:44
adey

Oh god, it's bonkers time again.

I don't go to mythical places with strange men.

-- Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul.

By MattyHardingLower• 2 Feb 2008 22:38
MattyHardingLower

Too many conincidences, too many unexplained questions. Without a doubt there is far more went on than met the eye. I left my Military life behind because I lost faith in what we were doing and for whom?

Stealth, Most people I served with were not behind the whole " war on terror", no one was fooled by Bush and Blair. Do you think we wanted to be there and not come home. You have to be professional and try to do the right thing.

With Bush going and Blair long gone ( Middle East Peace Envoy, WTF!!), maybe things will change. I doubt it though because all politicians in my time , are lying, deceitful scumbags,with hidden agenda's.

Humanity is simply a parade of fools....and im right at the front twirling the biggest baton anyones ever seen.

By Cornellian• 2 Feb 2008 22:33
Cornellian

Hmmm I'm not American, but I just wanted to say that there's a difference between being patriotic and standing by the government. I am patriotic and love my country, but I'm not always behind the government because I don't think their decisions will benefit the country. I wonder sometimes if the governments have the citizens' and country's interest as a priority...

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

By stealth• 2 Feb 2008 22:26
stealth

why stand behind nd support? try to bring them bacj home.

By thatguy• 2 Feb 2008 22:24
thatguy

i also stand behind my country men... but i hope you werent trying to be spite full in your words

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By thatguy• 2 Feb 2008 22:08
thatguy

as o said before ... i dont trust my goverment... ill leave it at that...because even though i dont trust my goverment... i must stand behind it... because it is were i am from and it is where i have my house and family...

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By thatguy• 2 Feb 2008 21:11
thatguy

ok first off... this is basicly saying that the fact that two plains hit the towers had nothing to do with it...

and then also saying that the fact that the towers were never ment to handle a fully loaded with gas 747 to hit it is hog wash...

look i my self dont trust my own government as far as i can throw them... but if this is true... this gives every country across the world to attack america because this would mean america is a country that has no problem killing there own to get to others...

so my suggestion to you on this post... is excpect to catch alot of hate from people who are closed minded... but honestly this guy has alot of truth about what he is saying and i am not in total disagreement with him...

either way... im worried

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just hanging out and watching dvd's with helen keller... kind of a quite night.

By anonymous• 2 Feb 2008 20:56
anonymous

there r meny truth not only this 1

By dweller• 2 Feb 2008 20:51
dweller

that this is the one that claims they were "demolished" by pre-placed explosives.

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