Irish Pub in Sheraton
There is a new happening place in doha called Irish Pub which is located inside sheraton hotel. a lot of people are saying its a happening place and everyone can enter. However a friend of mine recently informed me that this place is selecting certain nationalities. This friend of mine wanted to enter Irish Pub with his Filipina girlfrienda and was stopped at the door and informed him that its only for membership. This is the first time my friend heard of this membership thing and all of his friends who are not members of the said pub have entered Irish Pub before without membership. This friend of mine asked if he could speak to the F & B manager of Sheraton. He was able to talk to the F & B manager who was a British guy, about the matter and guess what the manager told my friend..He informed him that Irish Pub does not accept Filipinos inside. My friend was so surprised that this is the first time he encountered a racial discrimination in a social place. This is not done anymore in any westernized country. He was aghast at what the F & B manager told him. He even told my friend that Filipinos can go to the Mezzanine club but not this pub.
Im just wondering if racial discrimination still do exist in this century and in doha. this country have welcomed diverse cultures and races and its a wonder why Sheraton Hotel would discriminate certain nationalities. This is a five-star hotel and has established its reputation for many years. Is this the kind of reputation Sheraton Hotel would want to have? If so, they should post in their lobby entrance, "No Filipinos Allowed Here", to give a clear message to everyone that their hotel is discriminating certain races.
i totally agree with qatarisun on his/her first post
Went in last weekend with a Filipino guy, a Hispanic guy, an Indian girl, and a Syrian,
sounds like the beginning of a bar joke
Manboobs you say...must check it out
^I thought it was a pretty cool place.
Irish Harp, This place is a dump. I would rather die than go and see that British Manager's ugly face on my day off. If I ever see that man on the street I would run him with my truck twice. As to those stinky bouncers, chill out fatsos.. you are door men getting paid 2600 each, which is about half the price of my cheapest Tie. You live your life to develop the skill of flexing your man-boobs and looking tough.
It amazes me that the oldest Hotel in Qatar would employ that class of low life individuals.
This place has nothing to do with Irish pubs, beside the word Irish in its name.
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for a pimp ;)
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During the summer I enjoyd and spent most of my Thursday evening in the Irish Harp. I had no problem during the summer getting in with male friend. As of recent the problem which has been highlighted in this Thread is re-appearing again. Even with my british accent I have been turned saying that couples only.
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its nice though but loud...
is there any cozy bar here in doha without load music?
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
yeah, we got in...but that Manager guy is an IDIOT!
...he doesn't let some nice ppl in because there were 3 girls and 4 guys, and he lets in bunch of fat old guys for whom he believes are gonna spend a lot...but are gonna ruin the atmosphere...which was...nothing special, I guess!
So - don't go there too much!
a pint or two to unwind...on any day of the week would be perfect. The place is cozy enough...and the menfolks are not the sleazy type so i do able to enjoy my time there...without any unwanted attention :-)
Even I was allowed there. That shows the management is very good :)
According to the Articles of the Constitution of Qatar, Clause 35, it states: "All people are equal before the law. There shall be no discrimination on account of sex, origin, language, or religion." That more or less sums it up.
You can read the whole constitution here: http://www.constitution.org/cons/qatar/constit_2003.htm
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Have done so....
They are obliged to display their terms and admissions policies outside the establishment as they owe the public a duty of care. So people are informed about why they are not allowed entry.
linnet - perhaps you can pass on the details of the relevant Regulatory Authority to LifeisBeautiful, who expressed a wish to complain in this thread; http://www.qatarliving.com/node/122364
It happens everywhere. Again while it is a puplic place it is not owned by the puplic it's privatley owned and therefore managment has the right to refuse entry. Most pubs and clubs will set a cap on how many singles they will let in to avoid the crowd becoming too one sided it just seems to me that here they will also set that cap on nationality as well. In sydney try going to a gay bar after 10pm and as a straight person regardless of gender, regardless of color, regardless of nationality and you will be refused entry.
Friends and I visited, all expatriates, they allowed the "Western" Nationalities in and stopped my hubby ' cause he looks "Asian", when questioned, the rude response " we do not allow single men in", stangely enough, my husband's colleague was allowed entry & he was alone and hubby was in fact in the company of a female friend, so he was not a "singly Man". I was upset at the blatant discrimination, so took it up with the Manager of the Sheraton, guess what? It took one week & a whole lot of persistance, before I got the courtesy of a brief response. Well, to say the least, I have notified the relevant Regulatory Authority, to launch an investigation. I guess they messed with wrong people.I suggest you address a formal complaint to the Manager & seek an apology as this kind of conduct is unacceptable.
i beg your pardon? this is the best pub in Doha so far.. from its first day.. and yes, you hardly can get in, specially on Thursdays..it is always overpacked...
and music is the best in Doha, with the really PROFESSIONAL band...
Well when they open I can say it was a crappy place, now its getting better. Last thursday was so full, and the people were outside doing lines to get in... (Couples only)
The only thing its the prices still a little bit up.
Good music last thursday and all the nationalities were there.
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That's an old topic, but I go to Irish a lot, and there are a lot of Philipinas,so I don't know what a big deal is. Actually more and more.
Kismet
Obviously she didnt !!!
I told you, Filipinos are not shooed away from IH...ME as a LIVING, BREATHING EXAMPLE....got it?
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" -Eleonor Roosevelt
I have been there with FILLIPINOS - no problem the manager and bouncer did not bat an eyelid....... i have never seen anyone refused entry
that someone can say straight that the place is not accepting some specific nationalities. I would rather understand darksideofthemoon, who sais, discrimination could be veiled, hidden… I go to IH pretty often and I see there all the spectrum of different nationalities… So, I am not sure about this particular case…
and again, as I have said, the owner of ANY property in the world (and not only in Canada, darksideofthemoon) might ban any person, he/she wants to ban.. it’s well known, even if the “uninvited visitor”, which has intruded on someone's territory “without the invitation”, got shot, most likely the shooter will be justified.
so don't look for the roots of this particular case, just accept it and go have fun to any other place.. there are a lot of them, Hamdullillah!
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i still take the OP's poster as a pinch of salt ...
How come that all the others did not have this challenge?
Sounds ok to me. I know this guy!!! Dont like him.
And its Entienden amigos?
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well guys if u've been reading my article very carefully i would reiterate that the manager said that the pub DOES NOT ACCEPT Filipinos.. im not talking here about the way they were dressed..The manager actually singled out the "Filipinos" in his statement. If u r being selective on people entering the pub then u have to be clear on that and in this case the manager was really clear about it...
intiendes amigos?
Qatarisun - yes they are allowed to ban people from their property in Canada, BUT and I stress BUT, they have to prove it wasn't for racist reasons. Don't delude yourself into thinking that other countries in the world can be openly racist and reject people simply based on race, obviously it does happen, but they will try and find a fake reason as to why they are rejecting you, unlike in Qatar where they will tell you straight up get lost because you're from ____.
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All Filipinos (or nearly all) are western. Their culture is very influenced by American culture and their newspapers and books are mainly in English. Of course Filipinos are welcome in the Irish Harp. This thread is complete garbage.
The only times I have ever been to the Irish Harp has been with Filipinos. There are no problems there.
A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her. Oscar Wilde
I have a couple of western filipinos friends who can't even speak their own language. Can they enter this place. One of them was born in England and another in USA. What will happen if they enter this place?
Have been there last week with a Jordanian guy, a Malaysian girl, and a Srilankan girl and we did not have any challenges...saw people from all nationalites there...and also some ladies who were wearing something I'd rather call a belt than a skirt ;-)
sounds like it could looked on as fun if a chosen few would chill out. V & Lovei will be new in June so haven't been there, but i would definitely try it.....sounds like a "Pretty Woman" scene (the movie) lol to some, but who really cares. There is always somewhere else to go if I don't get in. I have been places where they are so full, it exceeds the fire rules.Whatever!!!! I always have a good time.
THey have very particular clothing rules that are open for interpretation depending on the mood of the bouncer. Had a female friend who was dressed very swankily in a matching shawl/tam combination-and no, she didn't look like a "professioinal". Bouncer denied entry because no "hats" were allowed. Sure that the rule was put in place for greasy baseball caps and to have an out to stop locals in gutras, he just didn't have the experience to judge what was appropriate. She took her tam off and was allowed entry-no problem.
I'd be extremely surprised if there was any sort of ban on any nationality, but perhaps on individuals dressed or acting a certain way, and perhaps they often appear to be of a certain nationality.
And it's the most ridiculous allegation I've heard for a while...
Been to IRISH HARP on several occassions and no one turned me away. i find the place OKEY...except for a lot of smoke (they need to improve ventilation/exhaust system) but i'm a smoker , so no problem.
ANDREA, maybe your lady friends weren't properly attired for the place. Most of the people I see there are in their smart casuals. Sometimes, some folks forget that it's inside a hotel and unlike other venues, you could go in wearing jeans, rubber shoes and tees.
GARVEY's ??? I don't know...been there too. I wasn't turned away. I don't know about the others but I did not experience that (YET), nor want to experience it at all...
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" -Eleonor Roosevelt
Went in last weekend with a Filipino guy, a Hispanic guy, an Indian girl, and a Syrian, they let us in no problem and I found the service really good.
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Well its there everywhere
and we are both Philipinos. I know for a fact that they even let Charan in so they can't be that selective about who gets in.
A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her. Oscar Wilde
You've been there heaps of times. You know this is garbage. Anyway I have to take a raincheck tonight, got other plans. Will see you tomorrow so don't forget the JT.
A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her. Oscar Wilde
I feel like going tonight...let's go and find out! 9:30ish??? C'mon, what do you say? text me
Anyone else who wants to find out?
“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”
- G. House
this definitely shall....LOL ...
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jajaja, gracias por tu ayudar!
Mitch
Donde esta la cantina.
Cerca de la Bahia Oeste.
Buy me a Pint and I teach you spanish LOL
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take it easy... this too shall pass ;)
Mitch
it wouldn't be too bad idea to inquire about the nature of the place where you going to go , at least to know the NAME of it…
I consider it insulting when someone constantly calls me qatarisOn or qatarisuM... I would never welcome these people into my place, since they even don't bother to remember my name... so WHY IRISH HARP WOULD??
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it is IRISH HARP!!!it's not "IRISH PUB". if you don't know what does HARP mean, i suggest to check it in dictionary... may be it will make some difference for you.
ringohiqups, what i said was: it is the OWNERS' right to allow the person in their property or not!! and it has nothing to do with the nationality! In my example with the Toronto's boutique both - onwer and client- were pure white Anglican Canadians. It didn’t stop one of these Canadians to ban another Canadian and do not let him entering her PROPERTY. Is that also discrimination?
..and I expressed the same thoughts with Victoria: not nationality but the look and the way of acting are decisive factors
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i try w/the espanol
De donde es un cantina? Cerca de Oeste bay?
Mitch
What are you trying??
Si conmigo hombre!
Yes with me man!
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si, conmigo hombres! (i try)
I am very bored today!
Mitch
The name of the place means a lot to me. Iris Pub. seems like irish thing, irish touch, some thing irish. To comment on this... i'm a bar/club fanatic in Manila. i belong to what they call 'konyo' thing which is a group of yuppies 'young professional' with a wealthy lifestyle. when i can here in Doha, i never think that descrimination ruled. im one yr & 2 mos. now and i found this place not really appreciating. from the policies and gov't procedures, its all for small people. even the penalties and everything, very disgraceful. no wonder why Qatar didn't manage or won the bidding for Olympic hosting by 2016. first, their languange. second, their culture. third, the way they handle people. one good example is the expatriates people. forth, unfair ruling. fifth, descrimination. sixth, no enough venues for the olympic event. how many gyms u have here in Doha? i've been in saudi arabi and we're playing volleyball indoor, inside the gym. here'? where? in al sadd stadium? where else? and much more.... so with this Irish Pub issue, forget it. better create a social gatherings at home. u'll be more comfortable and more safer than going out. goodluck to all! and good luck to Irish Pub.
It is better to endure the hardship of education than to taste the bitterness of ignorance.
You and Scarlett with be the first people I deputise! LOL
Do you need help in the Beverage Survey? Auditing its a hard activity.
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I'll give you a full report of all their beverages soon. LOL
She just post and go. I have seen this many times in QL. people just login to post something and then run away or watch it from outside.
Anyway am not a fan of the Irish Harp, but I dont like people just making negative comments and leaving the place after the heat the room.
USELESS USERS.
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Glad to hear this is untrue!
I wanted to go to the Irish HARP (ha) sometime soon but did not wish to support anyone who so blatenly discriminates!
How about some positive to combat the slander...
Any good beers on tap? New Castle?
Mitch
guys to solve the problem,,, are there any phillipinos out there that have been to the irish whatever its called ????have you ever experienced the same treatment???
I thought so after checking the profile of the author!
Seems like someone got thrown out or refused entry and is trying to give the Irish Harp a bad name!!!
Well, I'll decide after I've taken an anonymous visit and let you all know! LOL
i am an indonesian, went there with a an indian, a malaysian and a maltese. Not a problem at all.
this is one reason why i don't want to go to bars.. i don't want to experience discriminations.. it will be long for me to get over with the experience.. :(
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qatarisun,, doesnt matter what name its called ... its still racism when some one says philipinos are not allowed in a pub in doha....... and why are you tring to justify this action .... because it happens everywhere in the world , does that make it ok?????
yes i think victoria is right, sometime they choose people from the crawd as the way your dressed up and behave.
Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.
I was at the irish pub, sat at a sofa outside waiting for my friends for 30 min ( to much smoke for me!). I saw many ppl go in (filippinos also) and many ppl that were rejected. The ones rejected were different nationalities, I think the pub have an idea of what kind of ppl they want to let in.
Maybee its not a matter of nationality, it a matter of how you look and behave! .....not said that they are always right!
Victoria
True, but they might mistake me for Phillipino, and try not to let me in!! LOOOOL. (Let them try I say!)
noone will stop you!!
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they always mistake me as pilipina which is totally honored for me as i thought pilipinas are beautiful and sexy, but so far all club let me in. only one in garvish i have my bad day and i posted the story in garvish topic.
Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.
You've been a member for just over an hour. Did you become a member just to post this negative review?
Are you the "marketing Assistant" for a rival bar?
There are many Phillipinos here, can any other filipino or filipina verify this?
Just a thought, as I was really looking forward to visiting the Irish Harp!
and - yes - it is a property owner's right to accept whoever they want and do not accept whoever they don't! It happens everywhere. I knew one Lady in Toronto, the owner of some boutique. Once she had some small argument with one of the clients. And she decided not to accept this client in her boutique anymore. She informed about it this client. Both of them (the owner and the client) know that if next time this client tries to enter this boutique without owner’s permission, the owner has rights to call the police. This is a property issue. It’s well known.
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this is so racist , r they living in 15th century?
and I ve been with friends of different nationlities, including asians.
Why do you let them beat you ? Put up a fight ! Hit back
that is so racist !!! i mean things like that should not be happening .. i mean we know its called Irish pub, but that does not make it irish peoples bar only...ive been there and seen lots of people from here and there inside, so this is very surprising to me though. im sure the said manager has been to the philipines before and gone to a bar somewhere and was not refused entrance.even in ireland things like that will never happen.sheraton doha has to watch out not to be labelled a racist hotel... and the funniest thing is that most of the staff are phillipino... Beats me....
Been there and the first week they open I complain a lot.
Last time I went there I was with two Filipinas but that was about 1 month ago.
Anyway I went there that they because it was the day before the birthday of some important prophet. and they close late that day.
But if you ask me I will choose any other place as a first option to go out.
No simpathy for Stupid Managers with Stupid Ideas.
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QS - Chinese Dolls have invaded Rydges as well :(
it is called IRISH HARP for your information..this is first.
Second, it's not really NEW place...
Third, I have seen a lot of DECENT asian girls inside on Irish Harp, not sure what exactly nationalities they are though…
Fourth.. well... I might sound really nasty now, but other day i was shocked in Rydges when I turned my head and saw three girls, that just walked into the bar (and it was around 2 am already, just before closing!!), which were dressed up and acting in a way that doesn't leave any doubts regarding their "profession"… also I am not going to emphasize on their nationalities…
I think you can make a conclusion of what I have said. Decent people are welcomed anywhere, regarding their nationality…
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I got in, I put on an Irish accent, danced a jig, wore green and drank guiness.......to be sure.
they prioritizes the member, hence when the club is full they become very selective with people who want to entry. one time i ahve to have alsmost 40 minutes on Q. so relax, dont make it such a big deal. everyone have a bad day once a while.
Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.
They allowed me to enter. I am the worst case according to Richard123 (:
Maybe you have to be Irish to enter ?
they have the right to turn you down and discrimination happened everywhere. check the link here about garvish, as some of us agreed is racist places. just find other places to hangout
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