yea its not supposed to be like that but what came out in gulf times was a bit like this"We have noticed certain young people in this age group not acting decently and being punk, and this policy is aimed at deterring them from harassing families and single ladies,” . so its good as far as they refuse only the wrong kind of people not each and every kind of bachelor
I was there 2 days ago on a friday. I too was rejected entry. But I saw swams of arab and western guys walking in and out. The guards told us only Chinese, Indian and Pakistan guys are not allowed in. Aparently Arab and western guys can over ride this so called "Family Day"
We were all well dressed in pants and closed toed shoes and we did not look like construction workers. In fact we were here on invite by e prince of doha to organise an economic freedom award presentation. Such discrimination is shameful. In any other country, the management of the building will be in trouble.
I am from Singapore and we have 1/3 of our population making up of muslims and we work, eat and play together all the time. This is the first time I am experienced racisim from muslims.
Never coming back again. Not to Doha, not to the Middle East. Good luck on building tourism with policies like this.
Celebrating a family day once a week is a very healthy practice not only to the muslim community but for the non-muslims as well. But an apropriate steps should have been implemented in this regard to avoid confusions and misunderstanding most specially to those who are new to this practice. By merely telling your customers "DO NOT ENTER" because its a family day does not meret an ounce of significance to the true essence of this undertaking. This program should be properly advertised and official implementing guidelines by the participating agencies, companies, etc should be dissimenated to the public so as to create public awareness and prevent adverse reaction to its effect. Chaos and confusions oftentimes resulted in this regard because in most cases both the public and the implementor thinks that they are both correct.
If they shoo away the bachelors they must at lest offer them a bottle of wine. "ok here's a bottle of whisky for the three of you, go back to your accomodation" Isn't that nice? It's Eid.LOL
exactly....coz they think so highly of themselves that they dont think our fellows as well as Arabs and Africans deserve to be let in...they are so cruel.. but i think in this case, it will definitely be, "in our dreams, mate..."
The more I read about this, the more I feel so angry about this Family Days policy. Why do they let the locals in but not the others? Double standard? Those poor bachelors just want to do shopping and spend their Eid holidays but instead got turn away, I could see their frustrations yesterday.
I really hope with this topic, the Govt. will open their eyes...or maybe I could say, in our dream mate...
i feel the same as well,.. we were approached by one guy the other day when we were at the city centre,..he asked if he could go in with us so we said yes,..but then the guard found another reason for not letting him in, his slippers.. pity, he just wants to go shopping and the people managing these malls think they are not good enough to be let in, shame on them.
you got it right janey,...locals.... the only ones they dont let in are our fellow Asians...how nice of them...oh wait did i say they're nice? lemme just go and puke....
While Qatar fail to accommodate to its residents (locals & expatriates) at shopping malls, I salute the working force at dubai. Not only do they cater to the residents but also the 100 thousands of tourists. Today i visited the newly opened 'Atlantis' water park & everything was perfect & well organized. People of all nationalities were welcomed as long they can afford the tickets & other expanses. Perfection in every detail & the best customer care & service.
I haven't really seen this but I was actually surprised as I saw a group of bachelors being refused entry to the malls yesterday! Don't they refuse local bachelors as well? They were in groups of at least 2 and all of them were let in. Can anyone please enlighten me with the difference? Oh right, they're locals. :(
This rule can be changed if the "other" expats took action & have their voices heard . The rule in the first place came because of locals complaining on the Arabic newspapers.
I need to go tho Villagio this Eid to buy items costing 5000QR +, and I could get in, but I will boycott it out of respect for my fellow 'bachelors'. I will get them elsewhere, in fact I will buy overseas and get them flown in.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
Qatar is against racism as what had happened to a Qatari boy in UK but don't bother to cure their own racism act in this country..what an ironic thing they don't notice..or they just ignore it??!How can they do that...think..think..think..hmmmmm
just imagine if Qatar hosts the Olympics...athletes and organizers will not be able to enter the mall without their partners...what a shameful "family only" policy. No wonder Qatar is still way behind other economically and socially sound countries.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
country whom work soooooo hard under difficult conditions. It is outragous that this is still possilble and there is no official athourity or something standing up makening a stop to these stupid activities... Where is the Holiday spirit???
Where is the moral and where is the logical thinking?? What kind of mantality is this??
Is there something we can do that can make a difference besides complaining about it all the time because this is certainly not the first this has come up.
Only Asian migrants. How unfortunate!! Just imagine how many of those so called "lowly" men have toiled in this weather to get that mall up!!. I cant imagine how the administrators could be so blind towards fellow humans and that too during Eid. I just returned from Villagio and saw scores of Asians (Asians only) being prevented from entering the mall. At the same time many "whites and arabs" were being let in though they were alone or in groups (men groups). Why this discrimination?? Isn't this racial discrimination??? Where are the people in QL who organized a yellow band march to extend sympathies to a qatari student who was murdered in Hastings UK alleging racism?
Are you also blind?? Are you also Racist??
Disillusioned with this stuff!!! AArghh!! It stinks!! This whole place stinks!!! Hypocrites!!!
Single men denied entry into Villaggio mall during Eid holidays
Doha In a move that smacks of arbitrariness and not a small bit of racism, the swanky Villaggio mall has declared the three days of Eid to be family days, meaning many Asian bachelors were left outside glumly looking in at the goodies they were not allowed to buy.
Eid is one of the few times a year workers get some time off and an opportunity to dress up in their best clothes to go shopping and enjoy some leisure time from backbreaking work. What is even more ironic is perhaps many of these workers left stranded outside yesterday may have played some role in building the plush Villaggio mall.
A security guard posted at one of the malls entrances said instructions had been issued not to let single men or men in groups into Villaggio. The guard, from Nepal, just shrugged when asked whether he would be allowed in when he was not in uniform.
While the Villaggio management offices were closed yesterday on account of Eid, an apologetic receptionist said there was nothing that could be done. Even many of my friends have not been allowed in, he said.
Mohammed Khan, Villaggio Security Manager, gave a bizarre explanation to The Peninsula of the 'Families Only' policy for the holidays. It is a matter of the mall's honour. We are not allowing people in from the Industrial Area or those dressed in plastic slippers and wearing shorts. They do not have money to spend in the fashionable shops and if they do have money, they will spend it in Carrefour. Groups of these people tend to create trouble. He said similar policies were being implemented in other malls as also the Corniche.
However, that specious argument holds little water as around noon, Carrefour was about the only store open while the so-called fashionable shops were shut, to open later in the evening.
Asked why western residents were allowed in, as well as nationals and other Arabs a few were spotted entering without hindrance in shorts and slippers he said nothing could be done about single Qataris being allowed in. As for westerners, he said: Westerners are good and will spend money.
Even though many people here received salaries early, as well as Eid bonuses in some cases, Villaggio was closed to them. Daniel Apale, a Filipino resident, said he had come to shop with his Muslim brother Samaruddin. We have money to spend as we got paid at midnight. This is nothing but racial discrimination, it is apartheid, which we hate back home in the Philippines.
Samaruddin said he had wanted to buy kitchen appliances as well as clothes but could not get in. We will have to come some other time, I guess, he said.
Dheeraj, who works with KPMG, a major audit firm of global renown and who regularly travels between Doha and Bahrain, was waiting outside smoking a cigarette. He had gone to Villaggio with a friend. The friend was allowed in as he told the security guard he needed to buy items to take to his home country with him. The guard graciously allowed him in on the condition Dheeraj stay outside almost a form of hostage-taking.
A fuming Dheeraj said: Compared to here, Bahrain is very friendly. Nowhere in the world can you find this. Even if a westerner comes here half nude, he would probably be allowed in. The term bachelor here is almost used as a derogatory term by mall managements. In Qatar, a bachelor is defined not just as an unwed man but also a male who may be married but whose wife is not here, for whatever reason.
One such person, a senior executive, has decided to boycott malls and other public places that enforce the policy of segregation. I cannot believe such abominable policies of discrimination are practiced in the 21st century, said Raymond Paul. The only way I can protest is boycotting such malls.
the link to the above article is below... http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=Local_News&subsection=Qatar+News&month=October2008&file=Local_News2008100114858.xml
the villagio security manager is the most.....
well there are no words to describe the dumbest thing he said......this is just like racism.....
how can people enjoy their eid holidays by just sitting at home......Come to think of it these are the same people who have helped build these malls......Most of these people have only these days as holidays and still they cannot enjoy...I concur to what Mr Raymond Paul says.....and I would love to join in with the boycotting of these malls......
Yet after all this nobody will join in for boycotting of these malls.....
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yea its not supposed to be like that but what came out in gulf times was a bit like this"We have noticed certain young people in this age group not acting decently and being punk, and this policy is aimed at deterring them from harassing families and single ladies,” . so its good as far as they refuse only the wrong kind of people not each and every kind of bachelor
I was there 2 days ago on a friday. I too was rejected entry. But I saw swams of arab and western guys walking in and out. The guards told us only Chinese, Indian and Pakistan guys are not allowed in. Aparently Arab and western guys can over ride this so called "Family Day"
We were all well dressed in pants and closed toed shoes and we did not look like construction workers. In fact we were here on invite by e prince of doha to organise an economic freedom award presentation. Such discrimination is shameful. In any other country, the management of the building will be in trouble.
I am from Singapore and we have 1/3 of our population making up of muslims and we work, eat and play together all the time. This is the first time I am experienced racisim from muslims.
Never coming back again. Not to Doha, not to the Middle East. Good luck on building tourism with policies like this.
Celebrating a family day once a week is a very healthy practice not only to the muslim community but for the non-muslims as well. But an apropriate steps should have been implemented in this regard to avoid confusions and misunderstanding most specially to those who are new to this practice. By merely telling your customers "DO NOT ENTER" because its a family day does not meret an ounce of significance to the true essence of this undertaking. This program should be properly advertised and official implementing guidelines by the participating agencies, companies, etc should be dissimenated to the public so as to create public awareness and prevent adverse reaction to its effect. Chaos and confusions oftentimes resulted in this regard because in most cases both the public and the implementor thinks that they are both correct.
If they shoo away the bachelors they must at lest offer them a bottle of wine. "ok here's a bottle of whisky for the three of you, go back to your accomodation" Isn't that nice? It's Eid.LOL
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The policy is just plain stupid.RACIST.
Live Life free of worries
MJ, his slippers? What do you mean?
exactly....coz they think so highly of themselves that they dont think our fellows as well as Arabs and Africans deserve to be let in...they are so cruel.. but i think in this case, it will definitely be, "in our dreams, mate..."
The more I read about this, the more I feel so angry about this Family Days policy. Why do they let the locals in but not the others? Double standard? Those poor bachelors just want to do shopping and spend their Eid holidays but instead got turn away, I could see their frustrations yesterday.
I really hope with this topic, the Govt. will open their eyes...or maybe I could say, in our dream mate...
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i feel the same as well,.. we were approached by one guy the other day when we were at the city centre,..he asked if he could go in with us so we said yes,..but then the guard found another reason for not letting him in, his slippers.. pity, he just wants to go shopping and the people managing these malls think they are not good enough to be let in, shame on them.
i felt awful... i pled their case
its Eid
they just want to relax
married men cause problems
they are nice guys
please
NO NO NO
i went home sulking... not nice
i feel sorry for them...
it wasn't only Asians...i took photos of Arab and African men being turned away too.
it was upsetting and i did ask for them to be let thru.
i left the Corniche before I got into trouble
you got it right janey,...locals.... the only ones they dont let in are our fellow Asians...how nice of them...oh wait did i say they're nice? lemme just go and puke....
While Qatar fail to accommodate to its residents (locals & expatriates) at shopping malls, I salute the working force at dubai. Not only do they cater to the residents but also the 100 thousands of tourists. Today i visited the newly opened 'Atlantis' water park & everything was perfect & well organized. People of all nationalities were welcomed as long they can afford the tickets & other expanses. Perfection in every detail & the best customer care & service.
I haven't really seen this but I was actually surprised as I saw a group of bachelors being refused entry to the malls yesterday! Don't they refuse local bachelors as well? They were in groups of at least 2 and all of them were let in. Can anyone please enlighten me with the difference? Oh right, they're locals. :(
genesis, it is not your fault.
I'm really ashamed.
This rule can be changed if the "other" expats took action & have their voices heard . The rule in the first place came because of locals complaining on the Arabic newspapers.
sad for 'asian' bachelors..they cannot enjoy their rest holidays..shame to those who made that rules!!!
or you could revolt and fill all the parking spots and refuse to get out of your cars?
Actually Adey boycotting the "family day" malls isnt a bad idea!
yep its disgusting, just got back from villagio and witnessed 4 guys turned away...
I need to go tho Villagio this Eid to buy items costing 5000QR +, and I could get in, but I will boycott it out of respect for my fellow 'bachelors'. I will get them elsewhere, in fact I will buy overseas and get them flown in.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
double post
They were driven out of cornish too, yesterday noon
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that Qatari boy was attacked by scum (that have no place on earth as far as i am concerned) and was condemned by institutions.
What is happening here is institutionalised racism...(ok no -one gets killed) but its pervasive in society when institutions condone racist policies.
One incident is saying this is not acceptable the other is saying it is acceptable......
isn't it ironic, don't you think? a little too ironic,....and yeah i really do think.....
shame........
Qatar is against racism as what had happened to a Qatari boy in UK but don't bother to cure their own racism act in this country..what an ironic thing they don't notice..or they just ignore it??!How can they do that...think..think..think..hmmmmm
you are good enough to build the mall
you are good enough to work in the mall
you are not good enough to be allowed in...during a holiday
I really feel like going with a group of girls and allowing these chaps to walk in with us....
the only problem is - its the poor security guard who gets paid bugger all that has to deal with the headache...
not the management
just imagine if Qatar hosts the Olympics...athletes and organizers will not be able to enter the mall without their partners...what a shameful "family only" policy. No wonder Qatar is still way behind other economically and socially sound countries.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
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It's simply a shame. Shame on you, Qatar, with all your "achievements".
Oh dear, it is very sad that our bachelor brothers cannot celebrate this joyful and holy time with us.
Mandi
country whom work soooooo hard under difficult conditions. It is outragous that this is still possilble and there is no official athourity or something standing up makening a stop to these stupid activities... Where is the Holiday spirit???
Where is the moral and where is the logical thinking?? What kind of mantality is this??
Is there something we can do that can make a difference besides complaining about it all the time because this is certainly not the first this has come up.
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Life is nothing without friends.... :)
QL.... just a (very nice) way of live..... :)
it also happened also in city center mall ...
during this three days eid, it's only for families ..
Only Asian migrants. How unfortunate!! Just imagine how many of those so called "lowly" men have toiled in this weather to get that mall up!!. I cant imagine how the administrators could be so blind towards fellow humans and that too during Eid. I just returned from Villagio and saw scores of Asians (Asians only) being prevented from entering the mall. At the same time many "whites and arabs" were being let in though they were alone or in groups (men groups). Why this discrimination?? Isn't this racial discrimination??? Where are the people in QL who organized a yellow band march to extend sympathies to a qatari student who was murdered in Hastings UK alleging racism?
Are you also blind?? Are you also Racist??
Disillusioned with this stuff!!! AArghh!! It stinks!! This whole place stinks!!! Hypocrites!!!
Live and Let live dear.
I agree....here's an article from todays peninsula....Have you or anyone heard anything as sick, wile & rude behaviour as this....
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Web posted at: 10/1/2008 1:48:58
Source ::: The Peninsula / By Rabin Gupta
Single men denied entry into Villaggio mall during Eid holidays
Doha In a move that smacks of arbitrariness and not a small bit of racism, the swanky Villaggio mall has declared the three days of Eid to be family days, meaning many Asian bachelors were left outside glumly looking in at the goodies they were not allowed to buy.
Eid is one of the few times a year workers get some time off and an opportunity to dress up in their best clothes to go shopping and enjoy some leisure time from backbreaking work. What is even more ironic is perhaps many of these workers left stranded outside yesterday may have played some role in building the plush Villaggio mall.
A security guard posted at one of the malls entrances said instructions had been issued not to let single men or men in groups into Villaggio. The guard, from Nepal, just shrugged when asked whether he would be allowed in when he was not in uniform.
While the Villaggio management offices were closed yesterday on account of Eid, an apologetic receptionist said there was nothing that could be done. Even many of my friends have not been allowed in, he said.
Mohammed Khan, Villaggio Security Manager, gave a bizarre explanation to The Peninsula of the 'Families Only' policy for the holidays. It is a matter of the mall's honour. We are not allowing people in from the Industrial Area or those dressed in plastic slippers and wearing shorts. They do not have money to spend in the fashionable shops and if they do have money, they will spend it in Carrefour. Groups of these people tend to create trouble. He said similar policies were being implemented in other malls as also the Corniche.
However, that specious argument holds little water as around noon, Carrefour was about the only store open while the so-called fashionable shops were shut, to open later in the evening.
Asked why western residents were allowed in, as well as nationals and other Arabs a few were spotted entering without hindrance in shorts and slippers he said nothing could be done about single Qataris being allowed in. As for westerners, he said: Westerners are good and will spend money.
Even though many people here received salaries early, as well as Eid bonuses in some cases, Villaggio was closed to them. Daniel Apale, a Filipino resident, said he had come to shop with his Muslim brother Samaruddin. We have money to spend as we got paid at midnight. This is nothing but racial discrimination, it is apartheid, which we hate back home in the Philippines.
Samaruddin said he had wanted to buy kitchen appliances as well as clothes but could not get in. We will have to come some other time, I guess, he said.
Dheeraj, who works with KPMG, a major audit firm of global renown and who regularly travels between Doha and Bahrain, was waiting outside smoking a cigarette. He had gone to Villaggio with a friend. The friend was allowed in as he told the security guard he needed to buy items to take to his home country with him. The guard graciously allowed him in on the condition Dheeraj stay outside almost a form of hostage-taking.
A fuming Dheeraj said: Compared to here, Bahrain is very friendly. Nowhere in the world can you find this. Even if a westerner comes here half nude, he would probably be allowed in. The term bachelor here is almost used as a derogatory term by mall managements. In Qatar, a bachelor is defined not just as an unwed man but also a male who may be married but whose wife is not here, for whatever reason.
One such person, a senior executive, has decided to boycott malls and other public places that enforce the policy of segregation. I cannot believe such abominable policies of discrimination are practiced in the 21st century, said Raymond Paul. The only way I can protest is boycotting such malls.
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the link to the above article is below... http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=Local_News&subsection=Qatar+News&month=October2008&file=Local_News2008100114858.xml
the villagio security manager is the most.....
well there are no words to describe the dumbest thing he said......this is just like racism.....
how can people enjoy their eid holidays by just sitting at home......Come to think of it these are the same people who have helped build these malls......Most of these people have only these days as holidays and still they cannot enjoy...I concur to what Mr Raymond Paul says.....and I would love to join in with the boycotting of these malls......
Yet after all this nobody will join in for boycotting of these malls.....