European Perverts - They spoil everything..
Is nothing sacred anyomre ??????????????
TEENAGE tribal dancers have been ordered to cover up — because pervy tourists keep taking photos of their bare bums.
Thousands of young virgins perform the centuries-old Zulu Royal Reed Dance wearing just beads and short fringed skirts in front of their king so he can pick his wives.
But lecherous Europeans in the 25,000-strong crowds have been posing as officials to “zoom in on bare flesh with their hi-tech cameras”, according to locals in Nongoma, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.
And King Goodwill Zwelithini has now ordered the girls to wear sarongs or underwear as the event “is not for looking at maidens’ bottoms”.
The move has upset some dancers who see it as a proud display of their virginity.
But women’s groups argue the semi-nudity put other girls off taking part.
Todays SUN
What actualy happened atlast years reed dance is that some of the girls walking on their way to the ceremony were raped. There was a lot of speak of the temptations of this tradition. With the prevelance of aids here KZN South Africa(zululand), this is a problem. So it has got nothing to do with european perverts but african immorality.
Its not the boys that get tested for virginity but the girls and the test that they do is physical, by the elders. They check if there is a hymen intact.
and so it is ok an old "king" picking children to take to his bed??? Tradition my A**! What a convenient excuse...
marhabtain. Was Dr.Livingstone talking about rum or what?
Dr Livingstone was quoted as saying 'Once you try Black you never go back ' Indeed.
Well, selwardman said it and I believe that it's true.
The 'virginity' thing is pure BS.
The 'King' is going to 'marry' any (or all) of the girls who take his fancy, whether they are virgins or not.
That means he will bed them to his satisfaction, and then marry a few more 'vigins' when he gets tired of his harem and decides to restock it with some fresh blood.
If as the king says, "they are looking at their bottoms" they must be British surely?
So who is the pervert? Obviously the king. Ain't it?
I think you're wrong there.. The King supposedly only marries virgins, so I presume that during the ceremony, they all have to be virgins..
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
What are you smoking dude?
LOL
All that virginity shit is bullshit, they have babies at 12, and its considered the norm. The kings daughters, however many 100 of them he has is no exception. You can read all the shit you want, try living in our country then you will know a bit more.
Serlena Wardman
South Africa
Durban
Britexpat. Sorry, but if they delivered the 'Sun' to my house free of charge every day, I would either use it as toilet paper (on second thoughts no, it's not fit to wipe my a### with) or shred it and use it as cat litter.
I would certainly not consider reading it.
Rubbish media like the 'Sun' degrades people at a very basic level and insults the intelligence of every member of the human race.
It's worth a browse every now and then..:0)
Need something to get away from the usual bad news...
I was not talking to you. I was talking to 'Britexpat', who started the thread.
I did not get it from the Sun.
From here:
http://epaper.newcastleexpress.co.za/blog/2008/04/virginity-testing-among-boys.html
& here:
http://irishcornwall.blogspot.com/2007/05/virginity-testing.html
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
I would not believe a word of anything printed in the 'Sun'.
It's the worst of the worst of all the tabloid rags and no self respecting eedjit would bother reading it.
you forget that even the King's daughters have had the virginity test.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Er... well maybe it's because they are just 'pretend' virgins and the dance is just symbolic.
You got me confused.. They are supposed to be virgins aren't they?? So how can they screw openly on the beeches..
Not only do they show their asses, the boobs are in full swing as well. They dont care, trust me. They screw openly on our beaches and breastfeed in public. Trust me they really dont care.
Serlena Wardman
South Africa
Durban
Has Mr Khumalo written his memoirs yet ? Should be an interesting read..
Yeah and how many died because of Mbeki's ignorence?
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
LOL .... uhhh Alexa, you will learn that what an african says, often bears no relation to reality.
As an example, the president in waiting of SA announced in an interview a while ago, that having a shower after sex prevents HIV. Our minister of health also anounced in the press that eating more beetroot and garlic can actually cure aids.
So, uhhm, I wouldn't hold my breath for those tests ;-)
Who knows!But I googled these./
"The penises are checked. A hard foreskin is a sign of purity. A wire is placed between two trees about three feet off of the ground. The boys are instructed to urinate about the wire, without using their hands. If they urinate in a straight line, they are virgins. If it is a shower, they are impure. They are also told to urinate in the sand. The urine of a virgin makes a straight hole, they claim."
or
"The virginity test is an old and wellknown tradition. When Mr Khumalo is asked to explain how the test is done, he said that boys have hymen, a white lacy skin on the foreskin. He explained that if the foreskin on the penis slips away easily it means that the hymen is gone, the boy is not a virgin anymore.He believes that when the foreskin is hard to move and painful it means that, the boy is still a virgin.
Mr Khumalo said that there are other methods to check for instance; if the boy urinates straight up into the air he is a virgin, if his urine sprays he has engaged in sexual intercourse. Mr Khumalo said that an expert male virginity tester could determine virginity by looking at the colour of the knees.If a man's knees are dark, he is not a virgin."
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Surely he is entitled to his views..
Remember Mbeki wit hsi views on Aids..
They aren't tested. its a chauvinistic culture.
That is NOT what happened at all!!!. The local BLACK leaders who sooooo want to conform to european standards (Afro Saxons for short), decided the issue. There was NO european influence or presure.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2385648,00.html
sounds a bit loopy to me
"Zulu monarch King Goodwill Zwelithini has lashed out at homosexuals, accusing them of confusing children and tarnishing the image of the Zulu nation.
Addressing more than 20 000 maidens and guests during the annual Reed Dance festival held at his Enyokeni Royal Palace in Nongoma at the weekend, Zwelithini said homosexuality was a threat to the Zulu nation's rich moral teachings, adding that the new "habit" of feeling attracted to people of same sex was against African values.
"The Zulu nation would not be this big, with millions of people, if there was the problem of gay people that we have today. This new behaviour is quickly becoming a threat in our nation because it encourages people not to have proper families that have children.
We have a huge responsibility as a nation to teach our children to distance themselves from homosexuality," he said.
The Reed Dance ceremony is aimed at teaching young people about their role in society and appropriate sexual behaviour, especially in the light of the HIV/Aids pandemic, he said.
Zwelithini also criticised the government over the Children's Rights Bill which seeks to ban virginity testing. The Bill awaits approval from the National Council of Provinces. All young women who take part at the Reed Dance festival undergo virginity testing. This means that if the Bill is signed into law, the festival will be dealt a severe blow.
"I have never heard of someone dying from virginity testing, but in other parts of the country people die because of circumcisions which go horribly wrong. What is more worrying is that they (government) did not consult us as the custodians of virginity testing before they passed it (the Bill)," he said.
The king appealed to KwaZulu-Natal Premier S'bu Ndebele to fight on behalf of the Zulu nation and ensure that the bill was not made law, saying that the Reed Dance festival would die if maidens were not tested.
"I have many daughters who have been tested, but none of them have complained of being sick or humiliated after undergoing the process," he added.
The king also announced that people were being trained to do virginity testing for boys. "I am very grateful to companies that are supporting me in the campaign to have boys tested because they are the ones who make girls pregnant. People are being trained in Empangeni to test boys," he said.
"I want to thank young people who have heeded my call and conducted their lives in a manner that has saved them from contracting HIV/Aids. Please continue to abstain from sex," he said.
There was drama when some maidens were hurt during the process of handing over reeds at the king's palace. Some also fainted because of the intense heat.
Anthony Waldhausen, convener of the Pietermaritzburg Gay and Lesbian Network, this morning described Zwelithini's comments as being "typical of a person of his stature and similar to comments made by Robert Mugabe".
"We are part of his nation in KZN and it is rubbish to say being homosexual is un-African."
He called on leaders not to use their platforms to harbour hate against the homosexual community. "
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=6&art_id=vn20050912091727798C619897
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
lol charan
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Gypsy came to Rydges Bar wearing a Bikini one day and security had to call police to disperse the croud :)
Ban Spoon Feeding not Me
OMG i just had a sudden flash of funny thought...try to keep up people...BLACK, BLACK, BLACK, BLACK, WHITE, BLACK, BLACK...
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
_[]~SMoKE~[]_
Settle Down!!!!!! OmiGod, I'm hyperventilating at the very thought!
hmm imagines gypsy in a few "beads and short fringed skirt"
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
_[]~SMoKE~[]_
I am sure you mentioned once that you were looking to settle down.. What better than with a King..
Who said I'm after a partner?? Jeez people putting words in my mouth.
I'm sure one of the dancers looked like Gypsy.. I know she's after a partner, but ..............
oh i'm going to zulu land just to give those pervs a piece of my mind...and while i'm there perhaps smack a few bare bottoms myself..:)
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
_[]~SMoKE~[]_
I will take the next available flight there:)
Ban Spoon Feeding not Me
The sad thing is they are depended on the "public viewing" for their tourism aka money. So there's no way the King can make this Dance only for the tribe' viewing.
The future is made of the same stuff as the present - Simone Weil.
These people are messing with tradition..
They should be stripped bare and whipped..
what the.....!
Keep smiling!
Saggi!