Real Estate SCAM, BE AWARE "NANA GROUP"

open2008
By open2008

I have got scames by NANA GROUP, for the below ad in Qatar Living:
If you see this ad, do not go there, they have got about 90K QR from me in advance, when I felt that something is suspicious about what is going there, I returned my contract, and got a check, and there is no balance in the bank account.

the way they are advertising on Qatar living is strange, they are creating accounts and ads, then delete the accounts and ads after a couple of hours, they have it under different names, A_M_A , wait_realestate, meno_meno25 .....

After calling them, they said I have to talk with NANA GROUP, as they are just renting the building for her... but I know that they are partners....

Here is the Ad., I will wait for a couple of days than will go to the police, however people told me it will take time, specially if I am suing a Qatari Girl....

Price: 6 500QR
Bedrooms: 2
Furniture: Semi-furnished
Contact email: [email protected]
Contact number: 5100601 / 5710272
Type of listing: For Rent
Other features:
Covered Parking
A/C (Split)
Description:
- NEW MACHINS
- BIG ROOMS
- 2 BATHROOMS
- 24HR SECURITY
- CLEANING STUFF
- FREE ADSL
- NEW BUILDING (NEAR FROM FAMLIY FOOD PALCE IN ELNASR ST)
PAYMENT:
FULL PAYMENT (ONE YEAR IN ADVANCE CASH) + (ONE MONTH DEPOSIT)
- 65000 X 12 = 78000qr
- 1 MONTH DEPOSIT
- TOTAL = 84500qr
OFFICE COMMISSION = 3500qr
CALL ANY TIME : AHMED

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Regards

By vertigo01• 30 May 2010 23:54
vertigo01

Im also victim:(

By Markmbc234• 8 Mar 2009 13:43
Markmbc234

Guys lets exchange our phone numbers and meet together to discuss how to get our hard earn money back from this cheaters, Lets unite to win

Lets unite to win I heard Mazna has sentence to jail for an year, this is the time to unite, now wake up and smell the coffee

We need to pull this guy Mohammed Amin in picture for us he is the problem creator

All the best waiting for your reply and action

By Markmbc234• 25 Feb 2009 15:16
Markmbc234

Hello friends any luck with the cheater lady, is there anything we can discuss to get our hard earn money back okamalo I think you called me once please do call whenever you are free

Note:- We need to pull this Waits group in the case, as we all paid upon advice and rush to this guy Mohammed Amin

By Nervana• 11 Jan 2009 16:01
Nervana

Hello, just wanna inform all, if anybody need ID copy of Mazna Alhajri, i am holding her ID copy.

By anonymous• 4 Jan 2009 08:18
anonymous

That is so alarming.I wish that they will be penalized for it.

By Nervana• 31 Dec 2008 19:53
Nervana

Man i got the same problem with Nana Group I am working in X Travel & Tours, she came & she took business class tickets to Dammam, she paid by cheque, she said that the 2nd day she'll come & replace the cheque with cash. One week later i deposit the cheque & no funds in the account. So, am suing her to the court now. I warned her several times but she doesn't care, & i send her more then ten messages, every time i am trying to call her she'll turn off her mobile, so this's the best thing 2 do with such people.

If u want to contact somebody, just contact the owner of Nana Group.

I know that she's the owner as i am holding copy of computer ID

& copy of her national ID

Name: Mazna Madi KH M Al-hajri (As per ID)

ID # : 28463402102

Mobile # : 6799130

who ever having case with her you can contact her through her mobile, but be sure she'll never answer, or if she answered & she knows who's calling, she'll never answer again & she'll turn off her mobile.

By Markmbc234• 23 Dec 2008 10:59
Markmbc234

Hello Okamalo I would like to discuss on subject I have already file the case but no calls yet this lady is really a big cheat further please do contact me on 6086359

Rgds

Mark

By okamalo• 4 Dec 2008 18:12
okamalo

Everyone has a contract with NANA Group should expect that, this is how they are making money (Mazna and Mohamed), get 1 year in advance, and stop paying the owner after few months.

I have just got some information about her:

- there are over 100 case against her

- total amount of cases checks is reaching 20 million QR, yes twenty million, not a typo.

- she was in jail 2 weeks ago, and they released her after paying 1500QR fine.

so I guess the police is doing nothing, and will do nothing.I already have contact details for 6 victims including myself:

"Francis, Osama, Ahmed, Tamer, Simon, Diaa", and I am willing to coordinate our efforts and arrange for a meeting to discuss a group action.

If you are interested please PM me with your name and phone number, and I will get back to you after the vacation.

By anonymous• 4 Dec 2008 14:53
anonymous

We have a contract with nana group since june and nw we recievd a notice that we should leave the house b4 jan 2009. We paid 1 year advance and we r at a big loss!

please update hw u r doing wid ur case because we r going to file 1 soon.

By Markmbc234• 20 Nov 2008 12:59
Markmbc234

hello Friends,

This is to inform you that the real estate has published the ad again and giving the same tele phone number please refer to below, AND PLS POST THIS ON MAIN PAGE I DONT KNOW TO POST COMEON LETS SAFE OTHER PEOPLE GETTING IN TO THEIR GAME

FLAT FOR RENT

By mima992008 on Wed, 19/11/2008 - 4:42pm

Price: 6 000QR

Bedrooms: 3

Furniture: Fully Furnished

Contact number: 6799130 - 5710681

Type of listing: For Rent

Other features:

• Covered Parking

• A/C (Split)

• A/C (Window)

Description:

FLAT FOR RENT IN

- 2&3 BEDROOMS IN AL NEJMA, AL MANSOURA & almtar

- 3 BADROOMS & 2 BATHROOMS WIT BIG HALL F/F

- PRICE : START FROM 5500QR

for call: 6799130 - 5710681 - 5100601

Posted in:

• Apartment (Flat)

• For Rent

By Markmbc234• 19 Nov 2008 18:17
Markmbc234

Thank you,

Do you think they are still doing the scam, I see still the office of wait real estate exists, Mazna phone rings but no answer, I don't know how the police were unable to catch her so far even after registerring the case

Pls Advise

By qatarisun• 19 Nov 2008 17:56
qatarisun

Markmbc.. we don't know, that's why we are silent

i am really sorry to hear your story.. but i don't know how to help you.

*********************

“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

By Markmbc234• 19 Nov 2008 17:51
Markmbc234

Hello friends,

Any update any progress

please advise how to get our hard earn money back from this people, it seems they did not stop this yet

why too silence?????

By Markmbc234• 13 Nov 2008 09:57
Markmbc234

Okamalo with whom you are discussing, agent or mazna I am calling them they are even not answerring my call Pls advise and dont discuss on reducing the money, ask your full money and pls advise how can i catch this people for wayforwards

By okamalo• 12 Nov 2008 21:35
okamalo

I will have to wait for another 2 week, I am currently discussing a settlement agreement with them.

By Markmbc234• 11 Nov 2008 17:34
Markmbc234

Hello Friends what a silence lets break the silence any update we can’t leave our hard earned money guys lets wakeup

By Markmbc234• 11 Nov 2008 17:31
Markmbc234

silence lets break the silence any update we can’t leave our hard earned money guys lets wakeup

By Markmbc234• 9 Nov 2008 14:29
Markmbc234

Hello friends,

Any update, when and where are we getting together to go to gulf news office, did anybody manage to get the money, This lady still she is not answerring the call, we all need to pull this agent. The agent knew where she is and they are talking every day, the reason I knew this is.

She did not answer to my calls, and she does'nt knew that I am in the office of agent, and she called on the agent Phone (Mohammed Amin)and the story goes on...., therefore, we need to tell the police to catch M.Amin to find where Mazna is

All The best Friends

By lostindoha• 4 Nov 2008 13:09
lostindoha

aisha... you're quite right...

open... why did you gave the money without any assurance?

i dont understand, how this guy had talked to you and convinced you to give the money without anything..

By Markmbc234• 4 Nov 2008 12:45
Markmbc234

I think police cought her, her phone is closed now, we need to pull this agent in to case, can we file the case with this sales manager who is involved with her and i am bit sure this guy knew where this mazna is

please leave me a message so as to meet and arrange to go to news paper

By okamalo• 3 Nov 2008 13:47
okamalo

I have nothing concrete against "Wait RealEstate", all papers and checks have the name of NANA Group. All I can do is filing a case with the bounced check, which I did. That is it.

For my case, my lawyer advised me not to go for a fraud case, it will cost money and the probability of winning it is minimal.

I do not know about the other guys, but it is a good idea to go to the newspapers together, drop me an email to arrange for that.

Mark, go to the Capital Police near the airport, ask for the Checks devision, file a complaint, you have only 30 days if the check is bounced.

By smartbuddy• 3 Nov 2008 11:21
smartbuddy

Guys come together and approach the police. Also, visit Gulf times office in a group requesting them to publish this news, take all documents copy like returned check, contract etc.

Police will not come to u neither will the media, you have to goto them...its your hard earned money dont let any crook get away with it.

By Markmbc234• 3 Nov 2008 11:00
Markmbc234

what is procedure to book the case, and pull both of them Agent and Nana group. Is there any time limit? if the check is return from bank due to no balance. Do we have to file the complain to police, contact lawyer and file case in court etc...

Honestly we all should book the case on wait real estate I think sales manager is involved with Nana Group, he is the one who encourage and rush to pay the money to Nana Group, all the blame and claims of responsibility of getting money back should be on wait real estate, what do you think friends?? pls advise and lets join our hands to get our hard earned money

Please advise

By fefee• 30 Oct 2008 23:46
fefee

1)open2008 said Did not go to the Police, ...

Did not go to the Police, can not post the update on public, but all what I can say is that the Qatari girl is wanted by the police, they can not find her, there are several cases against her,

2)the police is looking for her, just go to the police station and ask if they know "Mazna Al Hajri".

over 20 cases in the court, and 10 police report that will be added to the court list.

how do you know that the police is looking for her and that she has 20cases in the court,if you never went to the police? how can you still have that much time to stay on the computer posting comments if you lost 90k? i think you should be crazy running to and from the police station.i am not sure if your story is true, i do hope its not, cus if it is, iam very sorry for you. good luck to you and hope this story did not happend.

By open2008• 30 Oct 2008 22:52
open2008

Trofy, this is the whole true story, she is not arrested even after more than 20 case against her.

By QFire• 30 Oct 2008 22:50
QFire

It seems that Open2008 says this happens alot! Hey, Doha is not all that big. Surely the Police are able to quickly get hold of these guys, when a complaint is finally made.

I assume you got the id details of the person you handed the 90k over to. He won't be able to run far.

PK

By trofy• 30 Oct 2008 21:59
trofy

its really sad that people are losing their hard earned money to frauds, this should be exposed and published in news papers...

I agree with you smartbuddy but our frined her are not tilling the holl story becuse as you minssion erlier checks crimes are treted serusly as pear qatar cintral bank policy.

and remember one thing...low evrywear does not protact..fooooooo

By smartbuddy• 30 Oct 2008 21:05
smartbuddy

double post due to connection problem

By smartbuddy• 30 Oct 2008 21:02
smartbuddy

its really sad that people are losing their hard earned money to frauds, this should be exposed and published in news papers...

By open2008• 30 Oct 2008 19:42
open2008

Mark, Can u contact his sponsor?

By mzain• 30 Oct 2008 13:49
mzain

...............damn!!..........itz reallly sad guyz :(............

By okamalo• 30 Oct 2008 07:44
okamalo

Mark, they are all work together, this is an organized crime.

By who.am.i• 29 Oct 2008 14:05
who.am.i

sky-rocketing 90k in advance? Ha-ha!

cheers,

paul

By okamalo• 29 Oct 2008 14:00
okamalo

And here is another victim, count me in...:(

By Markmbc234• 29 Oct 2008 09:58
Markmbc234

Did this guy got any of his payment out of 90K? and how about wait real estate, the egyptian guy there is good or he is also involved, or should we contact his sponsor or ?? and pull him the into case as we know his office etc..

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marhabtain

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By open2008• 29 Oct 2008 05:28
open2008

The only way to is to sue them, this is a clear Fraud case, if you would like to join us, let me know.

By Markmbc234• 29 Oct 2008 01:22
Markmbc234

Yes I am Pls advise what shall i do now? any idea about wait real estate

thx

By open2008• 27 Oct 2008 22:40
open2008

There is no proof, beside the cost of hiring a lawyer to handle such case, which is about 20K, add to this the time it will take to get a final decision by the court, that might take 2 years.

What if I can take half of my money in 1 month? there is no justice in this country......

By licaben_216• 27 Oct 2008 20:55
licaben_216

Open2008 have you heard of the word 'accomplice'. You can file case against the other partner and hold them as an accomplice to the crime. You just need to prove it.

By open2008• 27 Oct 2008 20:15
open2008

Not yet, no progress, I know around other 5 people with different problems, only one person managed to get half of his money.

Mark, are u a victim? :)

By Markmbc234• 27 Oct 2008 15:49
Markmbc234

Is there any other case here with Nana Group? Would like to know does he solved his problem of collecting 90k back if yes please let us know how

By open2008• 23 Oct 2008 20:01
open2008

She already has tons of cases, and bounced checks, I was trying to negotiate with them, but no success, so I will report to the police after the weekend.

The main problem is with the guys renting the building for her "Wait Group", they are partners, but can not sue them as all papers signed by the Qatari girl....

By smartbuddy• 22 Oct 2008 07:18
smartbuddy

u wrote:

1) "I will wait for a couple of days than will go to the police, however people told me it will take time, "

2) Just imagine that you have been ripped of for almost 90K QR, and let me know what is your feeling...

If u are ripped of the amount u mentioned then whats stopping u from going to the police and filing a case?

A bouncing check is a big offence in Qatar, whats holding u back from filing a case? People told me this and people told me that has no meaning........

By fan_ni_sarap• 21 Oct 2008 20:38
fan_ni_sarap

Simply file a case of bouncing check.

It it's too good to be true have doubt!

By open2008• 21 Oct 2008 20:03
open2008

Smartbuddy, the police is looking for her, just go to the police station and ask if they know "Mazna Al Hajri".

over 20 cases in the court, and 10 police report that will be added to the court list.

And her family is not supporting her, they are just leaving her without being arrested.

Just imagine that you have been ripped of for almost 90K QR, and let me know what is your feeling...

By smartbuddy• 21 Oct 2008 07:09
smartbuddy

i am surprised because if she comes from a Reputed and large family and is a Qatari, she will not indulge in such cheap things which are normally done by expatriates to earn extra income.

I don't believe or rather i am not convinced about your story hence maybe the case that u have not approached the police urself and just laying allegations against someone, with hidden motives only known to u.

By open2008• 21 Oct 2008 06:21
open2008

She is Qatari, and she is well known for the police, they said they are looking for her, but they really do not, as her family is a famous and large one here....

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2008 08:39
anonymous

be aware my dear

don't easily trust, just inquire first

By Flammable• 20 Oct 2008 08:36
Flammable

holy sh*t!..

-- F L A M M A B L E --

By smartbuddy• 20 Oct 2008 08:20
smartbuddy

how u are so sure that the girl is qatari, all arabic speaking/dressing people need not be qatari.

By open2008• 20 Oct 2008 00:00
open2008

Did not go to the Police, can not post the update on public, but all what I can say is that the Qatari girl is wanted by the police, they can not find her, there are several cases against her, and the checks with her company name is worth nothing as the company is a limited liability, if they went bankrupted, people will eat the checks.... weird story for a country like Qatar, these people know what they are doing...

By open2008• 19 Oct 2008 23:59
open2008

Did not go to the Police, can not post the update on public, but all what I can say is that the Qatari girl is wanted by the police, they can not find her, there are several cases against her, and the checks with her company name is worth nothing as the company is a limited liability, if they went bankrupted, people will eat the checks.... wired story for a country like Qatar, these people know what they are doing...

By blackcat• 19 Oct 2008 10:50
blackcat

any updates on your case, open2008? did you contact the office? the owner? did you move into your flat? what's going on there?

By open2008• 17 Oct 2008 09:38
open2008

Please keep this posting up, so everyone can see it, they are still advertising on the building. Also if anyone has an idea to warn other people, please share it.

By smartbuddy• 16 Oct 2008 23:36
smartbuddy

its actually stupid to pay rental in cash in advance, such ads always smell suspicious, specially because its from real estate agents or middleman.

a proper owner, real estate company will make a contract and only ask for pd cheques....

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 22:48
blackcat

thank you.sorry for your case. and good luck!

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 22:46
open2008

I just want to send a warning message to everyone here, I will do all what I can do for sure.

By fesechi• 16 Oct 2008 22:11
fesechi

Excuse me but as far as I know it is illegal in qatar to give q cheque with no balance, and it is one of the few things they dont go soft about here! I think you have to go to the bank and try to cash it in 3 times after which you can go to the police and whoever gave you the cheque that bounced will be arrested immediatelly!

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:52
blackcat

aahhh.. so this is the story. then it's not just suspicious. so i would say call the police. this is the only way.

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:51
blackcat

maybe you overreact? listen, this kind of stuff is happening in qatar all the time. i mean they don't know what they are doing. they can give you key of someone's else flat very easy. the watchman is too lazy to be there, he prefer to sleep.nobody wants to fix an A/C in any place. you can wait for the maintenance for few days even in Beverly Hills tower. so why wouldn't you either go to the office where you signed the contract or try to contact the owner?

try to calm down ( i would be mad by now though!)and good luck

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:46
open2008

I am not in the flat, I did not receive the keys even after 2 weeks the contract starting date. so I asked for my money, and they gave me a check..... with zero balance.

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:44
open2008

I signed it in the office.

There is another suspicious issue, when I was in the building last week, I met someone complaining that when he got his keys and opened the apartment, he found someone else inside. they said to him, it is a mistake, we will give u another apartment.

The owner is a Qatari "Shiekha", I do not know how to reach her, but will try.

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:42
blackcat

i don't know what to do. i perhaps would go nats by that time. try to call the police. but to be honest,i don't think they will do anything. as i understasnd you live in the flat which you rented. police will do nothing only based on your feelings. not changing the a/c is not a crime.

here people get away even with much bigger crimes .try to contact the owner. that's all i can think of

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:36
blackcat

can you contact the owner? can you talk to him open?

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:35
blackcat

i didn't say it. i say, before i gave to someone this amount, i probably would think: am i an idiot to give him 90 K?

was it at the office at least? did you sign the contract at the office? or just with some of those 'street bags',who rents and re-rents and re-rents for hundreed times?

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:32
open2008

I am an idiot ....

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:30
blackcat

i don't know.

1. -in my building no watchman either

2. - here nobody answer the phones when you need them

3 & 4 - this is qatar, baby. I bought NEW LG a/c from the 'respected' store. The a/c got broken in 3 days, and i had to follow them and to beg them to fix/change my a/c for over two weeks IN JULY!!! this is QATAR. who f* cares about doing right their business??

but to be honset i would never give 90k to someone from the street. am i an idiot?

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:27
open2008

and they have several cases like this before, so it is not the 1st time for NANA Group to scam people, but I do not have info from other people.

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:25
Rating: 2/5
open2008

The owner of the building is renting it to company X, then company X re-rent it to NANA Group, and I signed the contract with NANA, while Wait Real Estate is marketing the apartment for NANA.

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:23
Rating: 4/5
open2008

1- no watchman in the building

2- no one is answering his phone (spend 2 days to get in contact with someone)

3- no one to call for maintenance

4- they did not keep their promise of fixing the A/C for 2 weeks

5- they have originally offered the apartment for 5500 (2BR SF), then they increased it to 6500

6- met 3 other people have the same exact suspicious, but did not talk then.

7- last Friday someone came to the building and change all the apartment's locks, lately I knew that the owner did not get his 2nd check, so he changed all the locks.

more to come...

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:21
blackcat

who did you sign the contract with?

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:20
blackcat

so will they run away with your 90K or what? just go to police then

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:17
Rating: 4/5
open2008

The story is not yet finished, just called someone who knows these guys, and here is the story:

they rent a building for 1 year, pay 12 checks, for let us say 10,000 QR /month/aprt , then they re-rent it again for 6,500 QR/month/apt one year in advance.

The next step is not to pay the rent to the owner, so the tenants will have a problem with the owner, and it will end up with the tenants out of apartment.

True story, ....

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:15
blackcat

so if you do want to move into appartment, can you still do it as per agreement? what suspicious did you feel?

By dweller• 16 Oct 2008 21:14
dweller

hesitate in going immediately to the police if what you say has happened.

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:11
open2008

Haven't you seen someone asking for one year in advance before?

check the newspaper and QL classifieds section, it is not common, but it is there.

By blackcat• 16 Oct 2008 21:10
Rating: 3/5
blackcat

Aisha. he could register with QL 48 min ago, but could been reading QL for over a year.

and yes, iknow about this practice. that's why they give you a 2-br flat for 6500 instead of 8000. a whole sale.

LOL.

i think he has to find these guys and get his money back. or just to move into this flat as per the agreement.

By dweller• 16 Oct 2008 21:08
dweller

people that read the forum and are not members Aisha.

At the moment there are 162 users on line and 2209 guests.

Odd story though I agree.

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:07
open2008

The price was 6.5K for a 10K worth apartment.

I am new to QL but have been in Qatar for a year

By Aisha-Taweela• 16 Oct 2008 21:04
Aisha-Taweela

This is a very strange story. Why would you pay 1 year in advance? Predated checks and deposit yes, but 1 whole year?????

Also you have been a QLer for only 48min. How do you know about this so called scam. Seen the place, gave them 1 year payment and know that yopu got ripped off all that in 48 min. Are you Superman? Please tell me your secret. I would love to cram 1 week of action into 48 min.

Aisha-Taweela

By open2008• 16 Oct 2008 21:03
open2008

it is a loan... now, I have to work for free

By anonymous• 16 Oct 2008 20:57
anonymous

90K in advance???? You've got more money than sense!!!

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