Dishonesty on Public Transport?
I am new in Qatar and use Public bus on regular basis to commute to office. On many occasions I have observed that bus drivers are cheating by pocketing the ticket money.They buy back the tickets from departing passengers for 1 riyal and sell it for regular fare of 3 riyals to boarding passengers,so on each ticket they make 2 riyals.
There is a clear understanding between the driver and passengers and no doubt this is happening widely.
I have lived in different parts of GCC for over a decade and this is the first time i have come across cheating happening so openly in a Gulf country.
Is the Bus company aware of this practice?
Would be interesting to know from long term residents of Doha what their views are on level of honesty in this country.
i know what your stance is here, no need to repeat it and thanks for answering the question.
less 15riyals food...with this salary, I will do the same...
you did not answer the qustion. i know it happens in England, thats why i asked about 'your take on the matter'
cuteydog: i dont want to start another debate here with you. i dont want to know if my question is relevant here either. but just out of curiosity, whats your take on the following matter?
say, really poor people (nationality is irrelevant here) acquire student visa, enter Britain and disappear in the country. or lets say they produce fake documents, lie to the Govt. and claim asylum and keep supporting families back home.
WOW! I'm really disgusted from some of the comments from some of the QL regulars....
So, if you have a "low" salary (compared to what?), it's OK to steal???
I wouldn't qualify it as cheating,dishonesty or "putting food on their table", it's plain theft from their employer.
No matter how much you make, so an employee is allowed to steal from his employer?????
I'm sorry, there's "RIGHT", and there's "WRONG", and this issue is the latter.
The OP should just contact mowasalat with the date/time and bus number.
In fact...FYI:
A lot of bus drivers both Filipinos & INDIANS, were caught doing this (by bus inspectors) and were either JAILED THEN DEPORTED.
oiiiisttt....RONALD1903 don't you know that the bus drivers from your country are worse than what you saw from the driver you saw doing such misdemeanor. They cheat and steal half of the entire amount from their daily trip. I believe, the company already had an Indian driver fined, and now serving in jail for 4 years (I read it in a newspaper---must be Gulf Times, not sure).
Let get things straight here:
1. I'm NOT saying all these coz I'm siding with the FILIPINOS (bcoz I'm one)drivers. Your COMPLAINTS are VALID and actions should be taken to correct this. BUT saying that you did NOT DO ANYTHING coz they're from a DIFFERENT COUNTRY...MAN...THAT SUCKS
2. IF you're feeling SELF-RIGHTEOUS about it. Write down the day and time it happened, what's the bus number and how/what happened and I'll even HELP YOU forward this to the RIGHT PEOPLE/PERSON in that company.
3. If you did #2 but still wanted to express your OBVIOUS DISGUST of what you saw, thus you posted here in QL...good for you. Coz I know some QLers here works that transport company and surely they won't turn a blind eye to this issue.
I just dont think that hard times and poverty are reasons that justify cheating and stealing. what is wrong is wrong. and two wrongs dont make one right.
by the way im tryin my best to write in english.. (NOSEBLEED) i mean maybe some of us really didn't try to ride a bus here in doha, thats why ronald just sharing his thought about honesty that people didn't know this kind of situation existed.
i know his an indian, but im telling is that. its a big deal for us using this kind of transport because we live with this. we dont have cars to go anywhere thats why he publish this kind of thread so that other people know and have knowledge about this kind of things happening around doha! i hope your not bothered with my answer im just sick also with people whos doing this kind of crap.
anyways if you know how the drivers live everyday in there lifes, their stories and how they need to get this money and some have bounderies system payments and some have monthly payment system. its not easy for them to life with this country which the inflation is so high!!
who in this thread is using a bus for transport????????? im one them and maybe all of you didn't understand what ronald is pertaining to. maybe all of the people here in the thread have some Car for their own that is necessity for them going to work?
the best solution so far!!! is that before you go down the bus make sure you tear your ticket and throw it in the garbage. its not that the management knows or not! its how you break the law even if its big or small its still a problem that need to solve.
chef_leo.....*sighs* Please read my post correctly if you are questioning me.........RONALDO is Indian!!!!
actually its not FILIPINOS and NEPALESE are doing this crap!!!!! its the INDIANS! im not being a racist here OK!! but whose the majorities are you using this bus public transport????? its INDIAN mostly RIGHT???!!! and even im a FILIPINO and the driver is a filipino or nepali there not encouraging us to bring back the ticket. i always see indians who are doing this. and sometimes if they ask my ticket when im going down i always tear my ticket infront of them and give them so that they cant give it to some other people who are willing to pay! 3 riyals for their journey. maybe you try sometimes to ride a bus???? coz i think your rich enough not to try it! by the way much better to try to ride NO.76 the double decker and enjoy the trip going city center!!!!
you are not the victim of anything, it is the bus company that is the victim.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
you are not the victim of anything, it is the bus company that is the victim.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Thank you for bringing such topic up! I have been victimized by these drivers also. Well, its really more of like, THEY ARE MAKING MONEY OUT OF US.
Be sure to get the ticket THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE MACHINE, and not from their pockets. Most of these bus drivers are also rude, considering that most of them are my fellowmen. SHAME!
Slightly off-topic:
I ALSO WANT TO INFORM EVERYBODY THAT I WAS ONCE ALMOST A VICTIM OF A VERY VIOLENT BUS DRIVER (THEIR FILIPINO HEADS KNOW THIS AS I HAVE FILED A FORMAL COMPLAIN 2 YEARS BACK). SIRS, IF YOU REMEMBER ME, I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER ME TELLING YOU THAT I'LL PUT THIS STORY IN GULF TIMES... THANKS TO THE INTERNET, THIS IS A LOT EASIER!
I'll compose my thoughts on this, refresh the whole incident, and post it here for everybody's information... ATTENTION: KARWA/MOWASALAT (ESPECIALLY BUS DRIVERS!).
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"IF HE'S SO BOTHERED BY IT"... i dont see the point of him ranting it all out here in QL...
why dont you just complain directly to the bus company rather than stirring all kinds of sh*t in here? surely all these whining won't get you anywhere,.but before you do, as what tess said, you better have concrete evidence to back up your allegations.
It's the overall environment that makes people act in dishonesty. I am not saying this is true all the time but in most cases (and i have spent much time pondering on the subject of employee loyalty) it is the irrational enforcement of strict rules that pushes individuals to act in dishonest ways. In other words, in the employees mind, their dishonest act becomes justifiable.
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Lot of people out there live poor lives like labourers..watchmens and many more..if any one of them breaks in to you house..steal.threaten you.will you report to police or just let them go because they are poor??
tess_916,I also said I have lived in different parts of Gulf for over a decade and have fairly good idea of life in these places. life could be even tougher in some places. As for evidence i am sure corporation will collect soon.
RONALD1903, I'll happily ignore wrongdoing if it doesn't harm anyone else if I don't speak up.....this doesn't harm you, this isn't out of your pocket why are you so bothered about it? Are you thinking that these people are like shyte on your shoe and you have the power to stop their 'little game'?.......
Supernurse, its always easy to ignore and keep your eyes shut but difficult to speak up.
Probably I will..soon
RONALD1903, surely you have more important things to worry about eh? Put yourself in these peoples' postion........God, I feckin hate do gooders!!! GGrrrr!
this is wrong in principle and Ronald if i were you, i'd contact the concerned authorities.
Tes_916, I understand your feeling for these people. Does poverty means resort to cheating. That too a Govt. owned corporation in a Country which gave you the opportunity to come here and make life. If life is that pathetic here why not go back? instead of being ungrateful to your hosts. i am sure they were not forced to come here.
RONALD1903, by process of elimination I would say you are talking about Phillipinos or Nepalese as you are Indian and Indians are very honest.........
If you ever happen to go to Bus stand you know what I am ref.to. Dont want any names here.
I don't believe that you referred to any country did you? What country would that be,sir?
Dont mind Supernurse..Do you belong to the same country i am ref to. or may be you are the other party.cheers
Oh RONALD1903, just go about your own business and leave these people to do whatever they will, it isn't your business.....
well..I didn't report because majority of the people there belong to one Country..so no use
are you really that bothered whether these people are fiddling the company for a couple of riyals? Is it your bus company? Is it your personal income? No? Get a life.......
don't get me wrong but unlike taxi drivers, the bus drivers are not so lucky to have the luxury of receiving "tips" from their passengers. just like any ordinary employees, they are also feeling the effects of a high-cost of living coupled with a small salary. if it doesn't cost you a penny or if it doesn't hurt you in any other way, just don't mind it. it's total dishonesty but they have their own families to feed and it's their responsibility to put food on their table.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
did you report it to the concerned authorities?
i'm sure the company is not aware of this matter... but soon enough they will thru your post :)