Brit! a disappointment!
About a week back i read an ad on qatar living for households and i went to see the stuff, liked it and made a deal with the owner for two bed sets and a seven seater sofa all in good condition and at a reasonable price. I paid 500riyals as deposit and agreed to pick up the stuff in ten days as that will be the time i actually shift into my new home. When we went to collect the furniture this morning the owner went back on his word and refused to give the three seater of the sofa set!!! He claimed that he had now decided to keep it and i could have the remainder ie two two-seaters! i didnt want the incomplete set and why should I when I had his word and given a deposit.
How can people be so spineless and go back on their word. This last minute change of plans ruins everything. Now i have to start searching for a sofa and the curtains i already have would be wasted.
He had called me yesterday confirming that i would be coming but didnt have the decency to inform me of the change in plans.
He claimed that buying such a sofa would be expensive in UK and that his kids want to keep it, but my argument is why didnt he think of this before he had a garage sale. He was unable to sell it at the sale and readvertised on qatar living two days later.
When my husband talked of ethics he had the audacity to say that being from a south asian country we didnt have the right to talk about morals and ethics!!!!
First he wastes our time and money(we had rented a big truck when a smaller could have sufficed) then he insults our origin!!!
Ok its his stuff and he has the right to sell it or not but once you have made a deal and taken the deposit you have no right to go back on it. That's the rule in my poor developing country, don't know if it is applicable in the (not so) GREAT Britain!!!!
Lamea. A disappointment.
Try not to be so offensive next time you post.
It makes you look like a bigot.
My two dhirams worth: First this is not a racist thread, she mentioned Brit coz thats what he told her (i dont know why that would be relevant in any matter), and whats the harm in letting people know that a certain BRIT did something like this? should he be given special treatment just coz he's a brit? She doesnt say anywhere that all brits are like this, but when u have high regard to certain nationality and then ur proved wrong by ONE bad apple it doesnt mean she now hates all the brits. I'm an Indian and i will tell u that most Indians are bloody crooks lol, so yeah lets not jump on this whole You are a racist thing just coz u guys have nothing better to talk about. Deal with it.
Secondly Qatarliving is NOT responsible for any sales gone wrong, its merely a place where people can advertise freely, what happens out side of the site is your own luck. Good or bad transactions QL mods should not get involved in banning or whatever coz heck, you dont know details and you shouldnt worry yourselves with it either. If this seller wants to sell HIS stuff for HIS price its upto him, you are not obliged to buy it.
This thread was opened so she could inform us about this certain BRIT guy who went back on his word to sell something after taking a deposit. dont turn this into a racist argument.
Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)
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Firstly we should not sell any things on QL, unless we are sure that we will abide by the verbal commitment we make.
I have just bought a car on QL. I made an offer to fellow expat, and let him consider it and let other people also look at his car and then let him make the decsion if he really wants to sell it to me. Once he had made the decision he called me and woom that was it.
The agony and lesson of lamea threads is that these people who go back on their word should be really named and shamed so that they will not do it to others and will also deter other people using QL from doing the same.
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HE WHO DARES WINS
So very sorry to hear about your experience. There are only good and bad people in this world and you will find them everywhere in the world.Don't be dishearten by this as there is a god and hopefully he will get his comeuppance in time.
LMAO!!!
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the ad for the sofa is running again.
If i was in your place i will just tell him, shove teh sofa up your behind
Leem - Report this matter to Police. They give lots of importance to verbal commitments.
And....
"Just like people call Brits snobs. It's just the way things are. General consensus doesn't mean fact"
Life is never boring, but some people choose to be bored.... Boredom is a choice. - Wayne W.
lmao...
Think naustrodamus missed that one in his 1000 stabs in the dark (predictions)
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The end of the world is nigh.. I find myself agreeing wholeheartedly with a Scotsman...
What next ?
Sheesh guys,
She is obviously just a bit pissed at what happened and wanted to vent her anger... No need for the great debate. How many of you have been cut off or angry at a particular person and said "bloody *insert nationalty*".
It's sad but true that more brits who become the "Almighty Ex-Pat" end up with this holier than thou attitude, it true like it or not. That is always going to be the generalized thought about british over seas. Just like people call Indians Stupid, and Filipinos push overs. It's just the way things are. General consensus doesn't mean fact
Vent away Lamea. Fight Power
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samael, you r right i was just........especially because of what he said.
marycatherine,i have learnt the lesson the hard way.
well i have sent a pm to qatari to delete the ad. i dont even know if he is the moderator.
Greedy person with no morals.
Judging by the size of his huge villa in West Bay i was shocked by what he did!!!! Didnt expect him to sell his soul for a three seater sofa!!!!
Shame on you sofa guy!!
Ruining ALL our reputations with your petty money grabbing ways!!
I bet you get paid shed loads more than you ever did in the UK and tis is how u behave!
What would your mum have thought of your despicable behavior!!
I say again SHAME ON YOU!!
I think you should be deported and not be given your NOC!
Any one agree with me?????????
Ring him and tell him what a worm he is
how can i contact the moderator?
On another note - I'm taking the OP at face value as I do most things at first until I'm aware of further info. For now, I trust this is a genuine complaint.
/I hope this is not like the instance we had in Malaysia where one poster had several different IDs and posted to support and corroborate himself. Site owner and mods could see his IP address, etc.
//... "junior drum set with stool.." hmm.. wonder if my neighbours would mind me learning how to play the drums...
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
When doing this type of transaction (and I've done a lot in the GCC) I come with a truck, two guys to do the moving and the $$$. No deposit no nothing in advance. Only once in 10 years have I been "diaappointed". Live and learn.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
lamea, If he's re-advertised for them then, as suggested earlier, do inform the mods so they aware. This kind of behaviour can tarnish QL and the relevant people need to look into it - like what's his side of the story and whether he's really cheating you or there's a misunderstanding.
To all, By the way, I'm sure you all know that a verbal agreement is still a contract - can be proved by witnesses. It may be her and her husband's word against the guy but it depends on whether an independent "arbitrator" eg. moderator (if any want to go through the trouble and get involved in this) believes her or him. Usually can only be done in face to face meetings, not online like this cos can't read other telling behaviours. Hope this can be worked out.
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Don't want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
my lesson in such type of situation is to wind up the matter as quickly as possible.
at the prices, Everybody knows that you get nothing for second hand stuff over here. If this is the same guy he seems very greedy.
i am scouring the ads , i found this by zulya :
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/394924
By zulya on Fri, 27/02/2009 - 4:07pm
Contact number: 5863134
Type of listing: For Sale
Description:
2 X 2-seater sofas, as new, QR450 each or QR800 the pair; home office/computer desk, good condition, QR350; junior drum set with stool, QR300.
I wonder is this the same person?
Good for you. I feel like making an offer and then pulling out. People like that deserve to be left out of pocket.
justmoi, i didnt take the sofas, infact he has readvertised for them!!!!
you should've left out the name brit and just simply told us of your experience with this guy going back on his word, simple as that to prevent this into turning into another racial thread...
have just phoned you and let you know he had changed his mind as soon as it happened. There is no need to act like that.
He was also wrong to mention where you came from. Please don't think that all Brits are like that. There are prats from all over the world.
I would have taken my deposit back and told him to shove his sofas where the sun does not shine. That way he would have had the hassle of re advertising them.
If his 'kids' love the sofa so much they should have been allowed to keep the rest ;-) lol
I take great exception in you washing our stolen laundry in public.. I was going to have a go at you, but have to rush of to the dole office to sign on..
lamea - actually the last sentence is slightly illjudged if you want to talk about the clearly bad transaction you had with this guy and not get into another race row
lamea said Well come to think of it he ...
Well come to think of it he might have been wronged by some south asians but that doesnt mean we're all the same. i dont distrust all his countrymen for what he did.
i said i Dont distrust all his countrymen!
tallg, i know accents can be deceiving thats why i said 'i can tell the difference to a certain extent by the accent'.
Lamea - I really suggest you actually review your comments before you post them, your last one was full of rank hypocracy - the very thing that you suggest that he should not do - ie judge all south asian because he has had a bad experience at some time- you yourself have just demonstrated by saying that you trust none of my fellow countrymen because of this one incident!!!!
no i didnt mean to sound racist. i can delete it if it is offensive.
lol - plenty of Scottish, Irish and Welsh have English accents.
Well come to think of it he might have been wronged but some south asians but that doesnt mean we're all the same. i dont distrust all his countrymen for what he did.
why has this degenerated into yet another controversial thread - I think Lamea you need to change the title as you have been sidetracked into another argument about Race - or was that your intention all along?
Please re read your comments below and tell me you did not mean to sound controversial/racist?
'That's the rule in my poor developing country, don't know if it is applicable in the (not so) GREAT Britain'
he told me during the first meeting and i can tell the difference to a certain extent by the accent!
lamea , how did you know he is an english ? not scottish or irish or welsch?
i guess i should change the topic to English!a disappointment! that way the rest of UK will be spared!!!
mirror
the title of the thread implies that i actually think very highly of brits but this one was a major disappointment!!!!
well if you see two two-seaters for sale , dont buy them!!!
title of this thread should be
His QL Id, the disappointment.
don't tell a lie
you dont have to be a brit to be a moron ... any nationalities able to do that ....
We in Britain are all thieving no-gooders. I'm sorry, but it had to come out sooner or later. All of us. It's a national trait, I'm afraid.
Never, ever trust some whitey wearing a bowler hat, kilt, or carrying a leek.
You have been warned!
lamea..
It's got nothing to do with being a Brit.. The simple fact is that the guy is a moron without ethics..
what is the link of the ads on QL? is it still there?
I have nothing against Britons in general just that particular brit!
give his id here so that anyone will know in future that this guy cannot be trusted.....
both of you at fault....you waited for too long to pick up your stuff which gave him time to think again about selling his reputation.........i mean the couch.
Aana free, jaana free,
Pakde gaye tho khana free.
Perhaps you should PM the moderator and request that he be banned in future from the QL classifieds. What he did was just plain wrong. A deal is a deal. People do say and do the oddest things to justify their bad actions. I'm sorry he resorted to insults as well as dishonesty.
Mandi
Don't tar us all with the same brush!