This is a very strange company who said so much on offer. HOwever, until you get there then you will see.
I was late for pickup on arrival and then they put you in an appartment that looks as if it is fully funished. Every things are there.. but only for disposal. Often, your aircond need to be called for sevices, water leaks and broken pipes and the list goes on.
YOu will need a letter from Homesglen for anything, from oppenning a bank account, to buying a car or even registering a car. Ofcourse they will not tell you this until you are there or until you are in need of that letter. After you have called and put in a request for the letter, it usually take 2 weeks, if you have not heard from them, please call their busy office to obtain the letter again.
The car and accommodation options are fixed and once you are in, you cant change, not even for swapping rooms. Oh, you are reliable for the service of your car, however, HQ will not tell you when you need to get it service or where to go for a service.
While under contract, you may be threaten to keep your enquiries to a minimum or else you will be sent home.
Once your contract is terminated, HQ will try to inform you all the things that you not entitled to, and you may also not getting what you are entitled to unless you beg, ask or threadten HQ for it.
Basically, HQ is there to try to stuff you up while you are trying to ask for your rights and what you deserved.
Oh there is one main thing about the working condition here is that once you are in the country, you are not allow to exit, unless you have obtained an exit visa. Therefore, it is like you are in a detention center or in prison. YOU have to obey the law and your sponsor or else, you are not allow to return to your home country.
So please consider it carefully before you make your move.
Hornet, we would like to wipe our own arses but we aren't allowed to use toilet paper. Rember, it blocks the drains according to our illustrious leader
Been in Doha all of 2 month hey, You must be in security to know all about the place that quickly. You obviously don't live in the Al Sadd apartments which are classified as 1 bedroom and 1 office so holmesglen can justify not providing a second bed. The fully furnished means furnished partially and only with the quality that you wouldnt use at home.
You must live at the luxury Markhiya apartments where you get fully furnished accommodation, including things like a coffee percolator(we asked for one but never got it, like most requests.) Al Sadd has drainage problems (about which holmesglen manager openly lied)plumbing problems (pipes leaking, falling off etc), electrical problems (one tenant gets shocks off his set top box and was told to wear shoes whenever he has to touch it, no need to repair it) That was fixed during the 2 night What about the cesspit at the rear of the building, raw sewage in a bloody great open hole.
Thge construction will not finish in June, possibly one set of Prtments might but the construction across the road will go on longer and the cesspit is just a hole for the foundations for more construction, so it's one for another year or so at least.
In you 2 months here have you been out of your ivory tower to have a look aroung. We are lied to and cheated at every opportunity. Holmesglen treats it's staff like day labourers and judging by recent comments, they are starting to get the staff they deserve
to all current complainers I would like to say GET REAL.
you comments are affecting people's decisions who are looking to make a decent living like yourselves.
I think all the negative comments come from a few instructors (also living in my building). I have noting but good to say about Holmesglen Qatar, and their treatment exceeded my expectations. My Car was ready for me, so was my insurance card, so my residence situated quickly, so my salary was paid 5 days before the end of the month. I do my job, and everything falls though.
I advise all new applicants to ignore the negativity here, because I honestly do not see any of it, and did not experience non of it.
I respect the manager of Holmesglen, and he did go out of his (he did not need to)in order to help me on a personal level.
I hear from some collegues in my building some of the silliest complaints, and they are unrealistic. one case is requesting the company to buy a BBQ grill. Another requests the impossible, and I BELIEVE ALL THE NEGATIVITY HERE IS BECAUSE THE SILLY REQUESTS ARE NOT HONERED BECAUSE THERE SOME PEOPLE WHO I CALL CHEAP ASSES who expects the company/or the employer to come wipe off their asses after taking a shiXXX.
Get real people, and let new people have their chance. Bottom line Holmesglen Qatar and its management is great.
Go back home then....I have had nothing but good experiences here with Holmesglen and Qatar. What do you expect?? A limo to drive you around and someone to feed you grapes, get a life..
I've been in Qatar for a couple of years now and have worked for the old sponsor and now for Holmesglen Qatar and I think the comments above are pretty misleading. With the old sponsor it was OK but I get my pay on time now and at the same time each month not like before when it was always late.
I also don't have any problems with the managment at Holmesglen Qatar. I have found everyone in the office to be really helpful to me - often with things that they really don't have to help me with but they do.
In terms of Qatar - you either like it here or you don't. If you aren't going to make an effort then you probably won't like it and shouldn't come. Yes, there is construction everywhere - that is Qatar. It is a rapidly developing country.
I also agree with the last person - my car is fully insured - of course the company is not going to give you a car that isn't fully insured - at the end of the day they would still be responsible for it cause its in their name.
Some people are only happy in their own little corner of the world and won't expand their horizons - for those people they will always find something to complain about even when there is nothing to complain about. We are all grown ups here and have to take responsibility for ourselves - if you expect the management to wipe your nose for you then don't come!!
In fairness to the subject, and as I have just recently joined Holmesglen Qatar for nearly two months ago, I was informed on many things, before and after my move here. I really think that some of the complaints are simply "RRIDICULOUS", because:
1. construction is everywhere in qatar, and where I live there is lots of construction, and the area of the accomodation is really nice and close to everything.
2. I was supposed to get a one bedroom apartment, but then I got surprised with two bedroom apartment. It is a brand new building, and the company pays all utilities. There are a few things wrong in the apartment, but I can accept this as it is afterall a new construction and small problems will show only after you move. generally, I have recieved attention to fix such in a matetr of 48 hours. Contruction is spreaded all over the country, and despite the noise pollution, it the company informed me that construction will finish in may/june this summer. welcome to Doha as they say.
3. I also have a company car, as stated in my contract, and I do have a proof of insurance. How could you think the company would give us a car w/o insurance. By the way for those new people considering it is new 2009 mitsubishi lancer. I did not expect a HUMMER.
4. I am honestly happy to work and be a part of Holmesglen Qatar. from my previous army experience, i learned to be flexible, and you all know that this is how life goes in this part of the world. we are afterall contractors to the company, as I have tried numerous times applying for direct hire positions, but there are no vacancies. it makes more sense to me to be a contractor, and later see what happen.
5. If you really can not handle life in general, do not blame the company, becase I saw all the suppport i needed. This is the Middle East, take it or leave it and go back to your ho,e country and try to find a job there.
6. I really think it is unethical to genealize negativity about the company here, as I know that the the company has over 90 contractors, and is still growing. NO ONE HERE IS TALKING ABOUT POSITIVE THINGS.
7. Last, I ask the compaliners, don't you get paid 5 days before the month end?? dont you have your company car?? and the two (instead of single) bedroom furnished apartment with utilities all paid??? one of the old contractors who worked for a different company, mentioned that they used to get paid 1-2 weeks after the month's end.
I only miss family who is supposed to join me in the summer. I enjoy it here, and that is the end of it here.
I made sure to come here before my family to situate things before their arrival, and it is all working out for me.
hey guys really think hard before you come work for theses clowns they will not help you out at all and will leave you an empty shell who will maybe last 6-9 months out here under harsh conditions then leave you returning to your home town with nothing but a bad experience and maybe in debt, they will do you out of every bit of money they can.
they are placing trainers in a shit hole flat in amongst a building site were there is 24 hr construction you wont get any sleep and when you try to complain they wont answer your calls, you are just another contractor who by the way they make mega money on your contract they make twice as much as they pay you !!!
the car they provide is not fully comp insurance so if you crash which you will as the roads are dangerous out here you are not fully insured and you will have to appear in court with no guidance or help they just let you get on with the whole thing yourself, no joke in an middle east country and you don't speak the language and they wont speak english you have to just admit liability an that will end up costing you, trust me, it no joke
please think twice about coming here to work with these clowns think hard and long this is not just a email it a plea to think hard and long about working for them because things arent just giving you the bare truth about these idiots who call them selves holmesglen Qatar please think long and hard and when you have thought think again you will have a bad time here i promise you apply direct to the company they are sub contracting you to if you come and work for them it will be a Huge mistake
Think long and hard about it, the if you are still considering going, think some more. The community os good but Holmesglen Qatar management sucks.
They see their job as getting as much of your money off you as they can, and your job is to make sure they don't. They make all sorts of promises to get you here, then don't follow them through.
They will not support you in anything and treat you like a day labourer. You are a disposable commodity if it suits them and you will have absolutely no job security. If a Qatari takes a dislike to you and complains about you, you're on the next plane home.
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and it's a relief not to have to deal with people like the HGQ manager.
DPAUSSIE has been there for a while now, maybe you should ask him if he has revised his attitude yet. Rumor has it that he's not too happy.
As for drinks, I could imagine sitting with 2 shiney headed men at the bar. Idon't think I could see with all the light reflecting off your craniums.
The best think you can do is to avoid them...
you will see the truth about this company...
they are very slow in response to your urgent matters and not care about you at all.
This is a very strange company who said so much on offer. HOwever, until you get there then you will see.
I was late for pickup on arrival and then they put you in an appartment that looks as if it is fully funished. Every things are there.. but only for disposal. Often, your aircond need to be called for sevices, water leaks and broken pipes and the list goes on.
YOu will need a letter from Homesglen for anything, from oppenning a bank account, to buying a car or even registering a car. Ofcourse they will not tell you this until you are there or until you are in need of that letter. After you have called and put in a request for the letter, it usually take 2 weeks, if you have not heard from them, please call their busy office to obtain the letter again.
The car and accommodation options are fixed and once you are in, you cant change, not even for swapping rooms. Oh, you are reliable for the service of your car, however, HQ will not tell you when you need to get it service or where to go for a service.
While under contract, you may be threaten to keep your enquiries to a minimum or else you will be sent home.
Once your contract is terminated, HQ will try to inform you all the things that you not entitled to, and you may also not getting what you are entitled to unless you beg, ask or threadten HQ for it.
Basically, HQ is there to try to stuff you up while you are trying to ask for your rights and what you deserved.
Oh there is one main thing about the working condition here is that once you are in the country, you are not allow to exit, unless you have obtained an exit visa. Therefore, it is like you are in a detention center or in prison. YOU have to obey the law and your sponsor or else, you are not allow to return to your home country.
So please consider it carefully before you make your move.
i now enjoy my freedom
Cheers
duglas...forget NOT to wash up after wiping, you knhow how hot it is.
If you don't like it, find another job then.
Construction, it is taking place all over.
Hailceasar..get lost...NO DRINKS FOR YOU!
lol dpaussie, I agree with you, do not hold uo other passengers.
It is all good with me here at this company.
got to go get ready for work now...
Don't forget to hold yyour breath next time you are getting a brown nose
Your plane is waiting......Don't hold up the other passengers please...
The good comments on this page are from the MANAGEMENT!!! i was working for them, but left ASAP.
Homesglen Management SUCK big time. Do not work here, it would be the BIGGEST mistake of your life.
All the bad comments are TRUE from REAL instructors...The buliding IS surrounded by construction.
If the management like you, you might get special perks like going out for a drink with them!!! That is if you have lost the will to live.
Hornet, we would like to wipe our own arses but we aren't allowed to use toilet paper. Rember, it blocks the drains according to our illustrious leader
Been in Doha all of 2 month hey, You must be in security to know all about the place that quickly. You obviously don't live in the Al Sadd apartments which are classified as 1 bedroom and 1 office so holmesglen can justify not providing a second bed. The fully furnished means furnished partially and only with the quality that you wouldnt use at home.
You must live at the luxury Markhiya apartments where you get fully furnished accommodation, including things like a coffee percolator(we asked for one but never got it, like most requests.) Al Sadd has drainage problems (about which holmesglen manager openly lied)plumbing problems (pipes leaking, falling off etc), electrical problems (one tenant gets shocks off his set top box and was told to wear shoes whenever he has to touch it, no need to repair it) That was fixed during the 2 night What about the cesspit at the rear of the building, raw sewage in a bloody great open hole.
Thge construction will not finish in June, possibly one set of Prtments might but the construction across the road will go on longer and the cesspit is just a hole for the foundations for more construction, so it's one for another year or so at least.
In you 2 months here have you been out of your ivory tower to have a look aroung. We are lied to and cheated at every opportunity. Holmesglen treats it's staff like day labourers and judging by recent comments, they are starting to get the staff they deserve
How do I apply?!!
to all current complainers I would like to say GET REAL.
you comments are affecting people's decisions who are looking to make a decent living like yourselves.
I think all the negative comments come from a few instructors (also living in my building). I have noting but good to say about Holmesglen Qatar, and their treatment exceeded my expectations. My Car was ready for me, so was my insurance card, so my residence situated quickly, so my salary was paid 5 days before the end of the month. I do my job, and everything falls though.
I advise all new applicants to ignore the negativity here, because I honestly do not see any of it, and did not experience non of it.
I respect the manager of Holmesglen, and he did go out of his (he did not need to)in order to help me on a personal level.
I hear from some collegues in my building some of the silliest complaints, and they are unrealistic. one case is requesting the company to buy a BBQ grill. Another requests the impossible, and I BELIEVE ALL THE NEGATIVITY HERE IS BECAUSE THE SILLY REQUESTS ARE NOT HONERED BECAUSE THERE SOME PEOPLE WHO I CALL CHEAP ASSES who expects the company/or the employer to come wipe off their asses after taking a shiXXX.
Get real people, and let new people have their chance. Bottom line Holmesglen Qatar and its management is great.
cheers,
Go back home then....I have had nothing but good experiences here with Holmesglen and Qatar. What do you expect?? A limo to drive you around and someone to feed you grapes, get a life..
I've been in Qatar for a couple of years now and have worked for the old sponsor and now for Holmesglen Qatar and I think the comments above are pretty misleading. With the old sponsor it was OK but I get my pay on time now and at the same time each month not like before when it was always late.
I also don't have any problems with the managment at Holmesglen Qatar. I have found everyone in the office to be really helpful to me - often with things that they really don't have to help me with but they do.
In terms of Qatar - you either like it here or you don't. If you aren't going to make an effort then you probably won't like it and shouldn't come. Yes, there is construction everywhere - that is Qatar. It is a rapidly developing country.
I also agree with the last person - my car is fully insured - of course the company is not going to give you a car that isn't fully insured - at the end of the day they would still be responsible for it cause its in their name.
Some people are only happy in their own little corner of the world and won't expand their horizons - for those people they will always find something to complain about even when there is nothing to complain about. We are all grown ups here and have to take responsibility for ourselves - if you expect the management to wipe your nose for you then don't come!!
In fairness to the subject, and as I have just recently joined Holmesglen Qatar for nearly two months ago, I was informed on many things, before and after my move here. I really think that some of the complaints are simply "RRIDICULOUS", because:
1. construction is everywhere in qatar, and where I live there is lots of construction, and the area of the accomodation is really nice and close to everything.
2. I was supposed to get a one bedroom apartment, but then I got surprised with two bedroom apartment. It is a brand new building, and the company pays all utilities. There are a few things wrong in the apartment, but I can accept this as it is afterall a new construction and small problems will show only after you move. generally, I have recieved attention to fix such in a matetr of 48 hours. Contruction is spreaded all over the country, and despite the noise pollution, it the company informed me that construction will finish in may/june this summer. welcome to Doha as they say.
3. I also have a company car, as stated in my contract, and I do have a proof of insurance. How could you think the company would give us a car w/o insurance. By the way for those new people considering it is new 2009 mitsubishi lancer. I did not expect a HUMMER.
4. I am honestly happy to work and be a part of Holmesglen Qatar. from my previous army experience, i learned to be flexible, and you all know that this is how life goes in this part of the world. we are afterall contractors to the company, as I have tried numerous times applying for direct hire positions, but there are no vacancies. it makes more sense to me to be a contractor, and later see what happen.
5. If you really can not handle life in general, do not blame the company, becase I saw all the suppport i needed. This is the Middle East, take it or leave it and go back to your ho,e country and try to find a job there.
6. I really think it is unethical to genealize negativity about the company here, as I know that the the company has over 90 contractors, and is still growing. NO ONE HERE IS TALKING ABOUT POSITIVE THINGS.
7. Last, I ask the compaliners, don't you get paid 5 days before the month end?? dont you have your company car?? and the two (instead of single) bedroom furnished apartment with utilities all paid??? one of the old contractors who worked for a different company, mentioned that they used to get paid 1-2 weeks after the month's end.
I only miss family who is supposed to join me in the summer. I enjoy it here, and that is the end of it here.
I made sure to come here before my family to situate things before their arrival, and it is all working out for me.
feel free to email me for any questions ([email protected])
good luck to all
This is really true .i am also one of the man waiting for visa .
pl any one share about the real picture ,it will be grateful .
don't do it!
hey guys really think hard before you come work for theses clowns they will not help you out at all and will leave you an empty shell who will maybe last 6-9 months out here under harsh conditions then leave you returning to your home town with nothing but a bad experience and maybe in debt, they will do you out of every bit of money they can.
they are placing trainers in a shit hole flat in amongst a building site were there is 24 hr construction you wont get any sleep and when you try to complain they wont answer your calls, you are just another contractor who by the way they make mega money on your contract they make twice as much as they pay you !!!
the car they provide is not fully comp insurance so if you crash which you will as the roads are dangerous out here you are not fully insured and you will have to appear in court with no guidance or help they just let you get on with the whole thing yourself, no joke in an middle east country and you don't speak the language and they wont speak english you have to just admit liability an that will end up costing you, trust me, it no joke
please think twice about coming here to work with these clowns think hard and long this is not just a email it a plea to think hard and long about working for them because things arent just giving you the bare truth about these idiots who call them selves holmesglen Qatar please think long and hard and when you have thought think again you will have a bad time here i promise you apply direct to the company they are sub contracting you to if you come and work for them it will be a Huge mistake
i really dont knw much aboout them but think had the answer is within you
Think long and hard about it, the if you are still considering going, think some more. The community os good but Holmesglen Qatar management sucks.
They see their job as getting as much of your money off you as they can, and your job is to make sure they don't. They make all sorts of promises to get you here, then don't follow them through.
They will not support you in anything and treat you like a day labourer. You are a disposable commodity if it suits them and you will have absolutely no job security. If a Qatari takes a dislike to you and complains about you, you're on the next plane home.