Abu I went as far in Karate as blue belt (I know, not very far, and that was 8 years ago), I just don't get the equation with UFC as deeply as you do. Since I don't follow it I won't let my relative ignorance cloud things any further. If you enjoy it, enjoy it!
Funiculus since I don't know any Danes personally wow that should be fun, will look forward to it.
Now we just need a Danish UFC star to bring the threads together - signing off guys have a good night.
PS Thrash sorry for mis-typing your name as trash! My mistake! But if your age on your profile is true you missed a heck of good time from roughly 1977-1981 during the punk era...
Surely the intentions of the UFC are harmless, but I do not wish a 6 to 12 year old to watch two guys beat the living shit out of each other, they will not understand the philosophy but only adore the violence.
Plus, as soon as something becomes too commercial usually this means that the clock starts ticking and the downfall has started. Hence, the popularity of the UFC in the end may as well be killing for Martial Arts as the term 'hype' always indicates 'short period of time'.
Your comment of "my wife being stolen" is typical, why do you have to relate everything to violence or incidents?
I do not see what a strong critical opinion about the stereotypical image of Americans (NOT the individual), American government and other aspects has to do with my wife, or anything emotional for that matter.
Some people, and this may seems strange to you, observe, think, conclude, voice/discuss and sometimes ridicule for 'shits and giggles'.
UFC is one step away from Rollerball. Bread and Circuses / Blood and Money / Deathrace whatever. Not something to be proud of culturally, very indicative of the level to which we have become desensitised to violence.
Sorry just how I feel about it, I am not judging you nor begrudging your right to enjoy it.
I think the UFC consists out of no more than a bunch of idiot savages that have difficulties with their sexuality and have finally found an way to touch other males without being judged.
No sane individual will voluntarily be smashed in the face/beat up, not to mention the negative influence violence has on children.
I'm not white, and my name has the word "thrash" (not trash) in it...though I don't think you'd enjoy that type of music anyway.
I'm politely asking people for their advice. I don't care what your bias towards the US is, just leave me out of it because I didn't say a single negative thing about you or where you come from.
Big Brother releases them from time to time for some R&R. They are allowed of the base and roam around in groups.
Here is how you recognize them
- Tattoos
- Loose shirt/over-sized
- Baseball cap
- Looks lost
- 3 to 5 guys one Lady, that looks like a guy
- Loud, extremely loud.
- Near Junk food section
Actually, the over-sized shirts and pants are extremely smart buys, no matter how fat you get, which is a fact of life for the KFC-culture, you'll still fit in it.
Trash you ever want to talk baseball or especially(American) football just PM me; no basketball interest though. I enjoy cricket and love soccer (duh, look at my QL name).
I understand, but sometimes you get homesick. It would also be nice to talk to someone about American sports (as rediculous as Europeans and Asians think they are), and other aspects of American culture that haven't migrated to other parts of the globe.
This went downhill real fast. Mr P enjoyed your cartoons very much, we call all that/them trailer trash back in the States. Presumably these images were made by Americans as well.
If you enjoy Americans making fun of themselves (which we do all the time) may I suggest you read The Onion.
And Alexa glad to hear you agree all the smart, thin, etc. ones are over here in the GCC! LOL.
Trash can't help you on your quest 'coz haven't bothered to find them. I'm more happy with the great melting pot social circle over here.
Guys, I just wanted to know where Americans hang out. I've got friends who are Desi (Indian/Pakistani), Arab, Filipino, British, but I am yet to become good friends with an American.
By the way, the US has a wealth distribution more similar to countries like Iran and Turkey (according to the Gini coefficient).
"1) Bush is blamed for too much. Clinton started making mistakes by not 'altering' the way of doing business, not investing in alternative energy and not pumping money into new and developing markets." - Agree with you relative to the financial markets, we lost time under Clinton and it was he who started up the housing bubble with relaxed lending standards. However the foreign policy stupidity I leave squarely with Bush.
"2) Africa, especially Kenia, should have mourned the loss of Bush instead of dancing in the streets for Obama. It is likely that Obama will not be able to do as much, or invest as much, in Africa as Bush did." - I don't have a strong view on this. Bush did send a lot of money to Africa. BHO's decisions to send equivalent sums could get politicised. Beyond that I am going to dodge this question, it's not something I've considered enough to have a defensible view.
"3) Until today, nobody has given me a proper explanation why if Hilary receives the popular vote (the peoples) there are SuperDelegates that appear to have the power to overrule the peoples and by having a heavier voice enable Obama. Is that Democratic?" - Yes and no. Yes in that the delegate process as I understand it was democratically established. No in the sense that one would think the popular vote should always win. At a national level if that were the case Gore would have won in 2000... he had the pop vote, Bush the electoral college...
"4) America is directly responsible (together with the British, but this is historically) for the suffering of Palestinians." - Man a very sensitive one to say the least. Look it was the Brits who drew almost all the territorial boundaries that shape the whole region and I would cast the first stone at them, but could they have known any better back then? However America's - and US is not alone here - fumbling efforts at establishing peace without dealing with the absolutely essential need for a Palestinian State until recently is well recognised as having driven much of the resentment. The Palestinian people deserve a homeland.
"I still think that Hilary would have won from McCain, regardless of what pundits say." - in truth I voted for her in the Primaries (and I am from BHOs homestate in Illinois!) but she would not have drawn nearly the number of Independents and centrist Republicans BHO did. Who knows? The good thing here is neither of us can be wrong!
Well, Satan goes a bit far...and is way to much honor.
It is the poisonous finger of the US that keeps on meddling in the affairs of the Middle East in search of Money and Power, and they translate this with "for God and Country".
It IS the US that keeps on being shot with their own guns as regimes that they have installed always end up turning against them.
"God bless America, the home of the bravely ignorant!"
there is the problem, in a forum , where things are only written down and you can not know what tone was used and not even see any expressions , so a lot will be misunderstood or taken the wrong way.
And we have no clue of the ppl personalities , or how they really are......
Given the garbage that you write on this site its hard to believe that you know anyone who is balanced, nuanced and intellectual. It is even harder to believe that even if you did know someone with these attributes, that you would recognize them.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
I only comment on how you present yourself as a debater in cyberspace, never any further deep insights as I absolutely have no desire to 'figure' you out, lets leave that to a professional. :-P
They major contradiction is that you 'aggressive' undertone does not suit an individual that i presume to practice martial arts, as the the once I know are very balanced, nuanced and fairly intellectual. Of course, there is always somebody that needs to challenge the status quo.
and Americans are truly appalling people. I have never met one I liked. However, as awful as American people are, they are not as boring as the Canadians or as boorishly drunk and predictable as the Brits.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Midfielder, great reply! Wow, I am truly impressed.
I am fully aware that I can not push peoples 'in a box', hence my repeated mentioning of 'stereotype'.
I would appreciate your reaction to some statements, as I know you will be able to answer them correctly.
1) Bush is blamed for too much. Clinton started making mistakes by not 'altering' the way of doing business, not investing in alternative energy and not pumping money into new and developing markets.
2) Africa, especially Kenia, should have mourned the loss of Bush instead of dancing in the streets for Obama. It is likely that Obama will not be able to do as much, or invest as much, in Africa as Bush did.
3) Until today, nobody has given me a proper explanation why if Hilary receives the popular vote (the peoples) there are SuperDelegates that appear to have the power to overrule the peoples and by having a heavier voice enable Obama. Is that Democratic?
4) America is directly responsible (together with the British, but this is historically) for the suffering of Palestinians.
I still think that Hilary would have won from McCain, regardless of what pundits say.
AbuAmerican, they way you speak/write the way you present yourself... you ARE American. This I base on comments made on other topics where you claim to 'play', 'smack' and god knows what other terms you used to immaturely 'bully' your way through a discussion by being, as I stated many times, the bad apple. Never a proper counter argument, always insults and a pointing finger to express your false sense of superiority.
Funiculus U (great moniker btw), there's a lot here to respond to! Wow!
"We have a QL'er here that, day in day out, displays the misplaced feelings of superiority, misplaced arrogance and shortsightedness/ignorance of the stereo-type American." - I don't know of whom you speak but would gladly stand with you and try and get him/her off their high horse if appropriate. Being American does not entitle one to be arrogant and ill-informed. Reasoned disagreement, fine - but just ignorant disputation based on nationality? I'm with you.
"Next to that I am a not a big fan of the American culture, as far as you can call it a culture, it is stolen land with an insignificant history, the founding fathers are a joke." - There is no single American culture. America is more diverse than you can imagine and becoming more so every year. Yes the land was stolen from the Native Americans, just as in many other countries indigenous populations were kicked out by other powers. America is not unique in this. Nor are it's founding fathers unique in they fled oppression elsewhere. What ARE unique is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
"Politically nobody likes the Americans a lot, especially because everybody believes that the USA is democratic, while in reality it is no more than a kleptocracy, and no less communist/socialist than Russia." I would say politically the last 8 years ruined a lot of prior good will and agree with you although you overgeneralise. I've lived overseas for the better part of 30 years and had never been ashamed to show the flag until Bush II and his astonishing level of deceit and xenophobia. That being said, all political structures are by their nature kleptocracies, be they democratic, communist or royal in nature. People in power look to preserve their power, regardless of how they got it. Come on.
"Economically, it has been doing fine until recently. Yet the American dream has been a 'life in the slum' for many, also overrated." No, is worse than you imagine. Things in America have been spiralling in a bad way since the 1980's as the gap between rich and poor grew. As such the destruction of the middle class has had profound economic and political impact. That being said there is NO other country that offers the kind of opportunity to get out of poverty that America offers. A lot of what BHO is trying to do is to restore some normalcy to that distribution of wealth.
"A nice example of American ignorance is the previous election. The Republicans came up with a highly disputable hockey mom, that until today keeps on proving she is NOT the right material, and a guy that is 80 years old, likely to die while on the job. Who, oh who... elects/votes for a practically dead guy? Only Americans." - I can't understand anyone who could vote for the McCain/Palin ticket outside of the most narrow view... the most stupid VP choice in history. She is an embarrassment.
"While, at the other side, a dream-team was being created, coincidence? No. These elections were one big charade and the outcome was known beforehand, the only true question was Obama or Hillary, either way unique. Obama is a PR stunt, and the corporations keep on ruling the country." - If the outcome was predestined it was because enough Americans were fed up with the leadership of a person and party that had stopped to think before it acted and was out of touch with 65% of the country and 99% of the world! However almost all preelection polls showed Hillary losing to McCain even with Palin on the ticket, the distrust of Hillary (Clintons) ran deep. BHO is far more than a PR stunt. People voted for him KNOWING that it would eventually mean higher taxes, something that had never happened before. So if people voted for him because they felt like he offered a shot a restored dignity and transparency and accountability and normal American decency - you show me another country who gives as much to the global poor - and you call that PR, then it's good PR to me.
I guess the question is since we don't have whipping boy Bush to blame for everything, one might have to think a bit about what is worthwhile and accurate US bashing vs what is not.
I hope very much you read these comments NOT as a bash at you (or anyone for that matter), just honest and respectful dialogue. Salaam.
Alexa, I am not a hater of the individual. I sincerely dislike the 'stereotype' and I have met many many many many that fulfill the description.
We have a QL'er here that, day in day out, displays the misplaced feelings of superiority, misplaced arrogance and shortsightedness/ignorance of the stereo-type American.
Next to that I am a not a big fan of the American culture, as far as you can call it a culture, it is stolen land with an insignificant history, the founding fathers are a joke. Politically nobody likes the Americans a lot, especially because everybody believes that the USA is democratic, while in reality it is no more than a kleptocracy, and no less communist/socialist than Russia.
Economically, it has been doing fine until recently. Yet the American dream has been a 'life in the slum' for many, also overrated.
A nice example of American ignorance is the previous election. The Republicans came up with a highly disputable hockey mom, that until today keeps on proving she is NOT the right material, and a guy that is 80 years old, likely to die while on the job. Who, oh who... elects/votes for a practically dead guy? Only Americans.
While, at the other side, a dream-team was being created, coincidence? No. These elections were one big charade and the outcome was known beforehand, the only true question was Obama or Hillary, either way unique. Obama is a PR stunt, and the corporations keep on ruling the country.
Having been here 6 years I can count on one hand the number of times been to Chilis or Appleby's or any of that US commercial food tripe. Right with DeeDee prefer the local in all it's variety!
you will never find me at Chili's, Bennigans, Applebees, Fuddruckers, or any of the US chains for that matter. You will find me at Turkey Central, Thai Snack, the Indonesia place in the souqs, Bukhara, Tanjore, Megamart, and the American School. Why do you care anyway? A large part of the charm of Doha is making friends with all different nationalities in my opinion.
darude, you hate the americans or you simply just don't like them?
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Denmark bashing? Nah, too easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel!
Mandi
Well Gica,
After we gave Abu American some "Pella Spatte" today, we should pick on somebody else tomorrow, we have to be fair.
So, bashing Danish tomorrow? Note fore me: drink a six pack Carlsberg, stole the Little Mermaid and run from Hell's Angels... :P
deedee I'm with you, That is all I have to say.
:P
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
Abu I went as far in Karate as blue belt (I know, not very far, and that was 8 years ago), I just don't get the equation with UFC as deeply as you do. Since I don't follow it I won't let my relative ignorance cloud things any further. If you enjoy it, enjoy it!
Funiculus since I don't know any Danes personally wow that should be fun, will look forward to it.
Now we just need a Danish UFC star to bring the threads together - signing off guys have a good night.
PS Thrash sorry for mis-typing your name as trash! My mistake! But if your age on your profile is true you missed a heck of good time from roughly 1977-1981 during the punk era...
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Drac said:
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again the Danish? :P
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Abu,
Surely the intentions of the UFC are harmless, but I do not wish a 6 to 12 year old to watch two guys beat the living shit out of each other, they will not understand the philosophy but only adore the violence.
Plus, as soon as something becomes too commercial usually this means that the clock starts ticking and the downfall has started. Hence, the popularity of the UFC in the end may as well be killing for Martial Arts as the term 'hype' always indicates 'short period of time'.
Okay,
Enough American bashing, they are merely a nation that struggles under the dictatorship of a few families. Hence, the peoples are not to blame.
Tomorrow you are welcome to bash the Danish.
Abu,
Your comment of "my wife being stolen" is typical, why do you have to relate everything to violence or incidents?
I do not see what a strong critical opinion about the stereotypical image of Americans (NOT the individual), American government and other aspects has to do with my wife, or anything emotional for that matter.
Some people, and this may seems strange to you, observe, think, conclude, voice/discuss and sometimes ridicule for 'shits and giggles'.
UFC is one step away from Rollerball. Bread and Circuses / Blood and Money / Deathrace whatever. Not something to be proud of culturally, very indicative of the level to which we have become desensitised to violence.
Sorry just how I feel about it, I am not judging you nor begrudging your right to enjoy it.
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A wise young crackpot knows no fear - Ian Dury.
They meet every Tuesday at 2:00 AM down at the basement of that HUGE dairy queen (you know, the one that serves food!!!)
Have I ever said you were white Abu? I think I largely stuck to arrogant/ignorant.
Abu American,
I think the UFC consists out of no more than a bunch of idiot savages that have difficulties with their sexuality and have finally found an way to touch other males without being judged.
No sane individual will voluntarily be smashed in the face/beat up, not to mention the negative influence violence has on children.
Of course he does, that's part of UFC - they all do it! Plus coming from a WWE background showboating is part of his genes.
You can't deny that he's a freak of a good fighter though!
Trash,
As in trash metal? Like Slayer and such?
Sorry, I stick to good old rock from 70's and 80's, maybe beginning 90's
I 100% agree with your assertion of the American government.
Lesnar showboats way too much...and his wife is 20 years older than him.
I'm not white, and my name has the word "thrash" (not trash) in it...though I don't think you'd enjoy that type of music anyway.
I'm politely asking people for their advice. I don't care what your bias towards the US is, just leave me out of it because I didn't say a single negative thing about you or where you come from.
UFC...
Ultimate Fighting C*nt
Pardon my French.
Yet another sign of decay of society.
Watch something intelligent like, and I will keep it simple for you rednecks, Wheel of Fortune.
Glad to hear you don't miss the UFC abu!
thrash - I'm sure Lesnar would take kindly to that!
White Trash,
Americans you will find in the Shitty Center.
Big Brother releases them from time to time for some R&R. They are allowed of the base and roam around in groups.
Here is how you recognize them
- Tattoos
- Loose shirt/over-sized
- Baseball cap
- Looks lost
- 3 to 5 guys one Lady, that looks like a guy
- Loud, extremely loud.
- Near Junk food section
Actually, the over-sized shirts and pants are extremely smart buys, no matter how fat you get, which is a fact of life for the KFC-culture, you'll still fit in it.
Lesnar is a douche bag.
Trash you ever want to talk baseball or especially(American) football just PM me; no basketball interest though. I enjoy cricket and love soccer (duh, look at my QL name).
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Abu - when you say that you don't watch TV, does that mean no TV whatsoever, even UFC?
I understand, but sometimes you get homesick. It would also be nice to talk to someone about American sports (as rediculous as Europeans and Asians think they are), and other aspects of American culture that haven't migrated to other parts of the globe.
This went downhill real fast. Mr P enjoyed your cartoons very much, we call all that/them trailer trash back in the States. Presumably these images were made by Americans as well.
If you enjoy Americans making fun of themselves (which we do all the time) may I suggest you read The Onion.
And Alexa glad to hear you agree all the smart, thin, etc. ones are over here in the GCC! LOL.
Trash can't help you on your quest 'coz haven't bothered to find them. I'm more happy with the great melting pot social circle over here.
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wow thanks MP ;)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9176666676169863461
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
What's BJJ? Sounds like Ben & Jerrys.
Muslims are cool, I'm not an ignorant American who thinks "Islam is the devil."
lol MP, i'd sing along, but to the tune of? :P
Alexa hide the nail on the head , you forgot and they all are brain washed
"If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.
From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.
That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA."
Artist: Lee Greenwood
Title: Proud To Be An American
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
Wow - this thread is amazing! It's the clash of the super-articulate, ultra-observant, razor-sharp QL titans.
Please, keep going guys.
They do tend to frequent Applebees a lot. I enjoy seeing them around, they remind me of home.
LOL
soooo true all those pictures
Guys, I just wanted to know where Americans hang out. I've got friends who are Desi (Indian/Pakistani), Arab, Filipino, British, but I am yet to become good friends with an American.
By the way, the US has a wealth distribution more similar to countries like Iran and Turkey (according to the Gini coefficient).
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a sh1t.
Abu American,
Bubbles, Bam, fight...
*sigh*
Thanks for backing me up.
Indeed!
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Mr Paul, you know that's the flag of dear Ireland!
US citizen half Irish.
Like most Americans came from somewhere else!
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Cos yer profile says yank, but that aint the USA flag...
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F U you I must say you are partly right , Abu American is Crazy indeed - so watch your back ;)
Umm, normally I would agree with you... however this has been based on previous posts that
- Started with an insult
- Many references to physical violence
- Use of wtf and such
Some are just more transparent as others. Also depends on ability to 'see'.
Funiculus U: sure, happy too...
"1) Bush is blamed for too much. Clinton started making mistakes by not 'altering' the way of doing business, not investing in alternative energy and not pumping money into new and developing markets." - Agree with you relative to the financial markets, we lost time under Clinton and it was he who started up the housing bubble with relaxed lending standards. However the foreign policy stupidity I leave squarely with Bush.
"2) Africa, especially Kenia, should have mourned the loss of Bush instead of dancing in the streets for Obama. It is likely that Obama will not be able to do as much, or invest as much, in Africa as Bush did." - I don't have a strong view on this. Bush did send a lot of money to Africa. BHO's decisions to send equivalent sums could get politicised. Beyond that I am going to dodge this question, it's not something I've considered enough to have a defensible view.
"3) Until today, nobody has given me a proper explanation why if Hilary receives the popular vote (the peoples) there are SuperDelegates that appear to have the power to overrule the peoples and by having a heavier voice enable Obama. Is that Democratic?" - Yes and no. Yes in that the delegate process as I understand it was democratically established. No in the sense that one would think the popular vote should always win. At a national level if that were the case Gore would have won in 2000... he had the pop vote, Bush the electoral college...
"4) America is directly responsible (together with the British, but this is historically) for the suffering of Palestinians." - Man a very sensitive one to say the least. Look it was the Brits who drew almost all the territorial boundaries that shape the whole region and I would cast the first stone at them, but could they have known any better back then? However America's - and US is not alone here - fumbling efforts at establishing peace without dealing with the absolutely essential need for a Palestinian State until recently is well recognised as having driven much of the resentment. The Palestinian people deserve a homeland.
"I still think that Hilary would have won from McCain, regardless of what pundits say." - in truth I voted for her in the Primaries (and I am from BHOs homestate in Illinois!) but she would not have drawn nearly the number of Independents and centrist Republicans BHO did. Who knows? The good thing here is neither of us can be wrong!
- Cheers
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A wise young crackpot knows no fear - Ian Dury.
Well, Satan goes a bit far...and is way to much honor.
It is the poisonous finger of the US that keeps on meddling in the affairs of the Middle East in search of Money and Power, and they translate this with "for God and Country".
It IS the US that keeps on being shot with their own guns as regimes that they have installed always end up turning against them.
"God bless America, the home of the bravely ignorant!"
F U it is funny you say "aggressive" undertone.
there is the problem, in a forum , where things are only written down and you can not know what tone was used and not even see any expressions , so a lot will be misunderstood or taken the wrong way.
And we have no clue of the ppl personalities , or how they really are......
Given the garbage that you write on this site its hard to believe that you know anyone who is balanced, nuanced and intellectual. It is even harder to believe that even if you did know someone with these attributes, that you would recognize them.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Abu,
I only comment on how you present yourself as a debater in cyberspace, never any further deep insights as I absolutely have no desire to 'figure' you out, lets leave that to a professional. :-P
They major contradiction is that you 'aggressive' undertone does not suit an individual that i presume to practice martial arts, as the the once I know are very balanced, nuanced and fairly intellectual. Of course, there is always somebody that needs to challenge the status quo.
This is my original thought for the day.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Oh well, guess yer spoiled that Tig
:P
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and Americans are truly appalling people. I have never met one I liked. However, as awful as American people are, they are not as boring as the Canadians or as boorishly drunk and predictable as the Brits.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
ass ??
:P
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John, not really... they did not have a written invitation from the Bush Senior administration at that time.
I think terrorist's had the chance to go to the US during clintons time.
Midfielder, great reply! Wow, I am truly impressed.
I am fully aware that I can not push peoples 'in a box', hence my repeated mentioning of 'stereotype'.
I would appreciate your reaction to some statements, as I know you will be able to answer them correctly.
1) Bush is blamed for too much. Clinton started making mistakes by not 'altering' the way of doing business, not investing in alternative energy and not pumping money into new and developing markets.
2) Africa, especially Kenia, should have mourned the loss of Bush instead of dancing in the streets for Obama. It is likely that Obama will not be able to do as much, or invest as much, in Africa as Bush did.
3) Until today, nobody has given me a proper explanation why if Hilary receives the popular vote (the peoples) there are SuperDelegates that appear to have the power to overrule the peoples and by having a heavier voice enable Obama. Is that Democratic?
4) America is directly responsible (together with the British, but this is historically) for the suffering of Palestinians.
I still think that Hilary would have won from McCain, regardless of what pundits say.
Let me stick to these 4 :-P
AbuAmerican, they way you speak/write the way you present yourself... you ARE American. This I base on comments made on other topics where you claim to 'play', 'smack' and god knows what other terms you used to immaturely 'bully' your way through a discussion by being, as I stated many times, the bad apple. Never a proper counter argument, always insults and a pointing finger to express your false sense of superiority.
Abu, err, besides your name?
Mandi
don't you just love them their Americans.
they are so much fun!
Funiculus U (great moniker btw), there's a lot here to respond to! Wow!
"We have a QL'er here that, day in day out, displays the misplaced feelings of superiority, misplaced arrogance and shortsightedness/ignorance of the stereo-type American." - I don't know of whom you speak but would gladly stand with you and try and get him/her off their high horse if appropriate. Being American does not entitle one to be arrogant and ill-informed. Reasoned disagreement, fine - but just ignorant disputation based on nationality? I'm with you.
"Next to that I am a not a big fan of the American culture, as far as you can call it a culture, it is stolen land with an insignificant history, the founding fathers are a joke." - There is no single American culture. America is more diverse than you can imagine and becoming more so every year. Yes the land was stolen from the Native Americans, just as in many other countries indigenous populations were kicked out by other powers. America is not unique in this. Nor are it's founding fathers unique in they fled oppression elsewhere. What ARE unique is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
"Politically nobody likes the Americans a lot, especially because everybody believes that the USA is democratic, while in reality it is no more than a kleptocracy, and no less communist/socialist than Russia." I would say politically the last 8 years ruined a lot of prior good will and agree with you although you overgeneralise. I've lived overseas for the better part of 30 years and had never been ashamed to show the flag until Bush II and his astonishing level of deceit and xenophobia. That being said, all political structures are by their nature kleptocracies, be they democratic, communist or royal in nature. People in power look to preserve their power, regardless of how they got it. Come on.
"Economically, it has been doing fine until recently. Yet the American dream has been a 'life in the slum' for many, also overrated." No, is worse than you imagine. Things in America have been spiralling in a bad way since the 1980's as the gap between rich and poor grew. As such the destruction of the middle class has had profound economic and political impact. That being said there is NO other country that offers the kind of opportunity to get out of poverty that America offers. A lot of what BHO is trying to do is to restore some normalcy to that distribution of wealth.
"A nice example of American ignorance is the previous election. The Republicans came up with a highly disputable hockey mom, that until today keeps on proving she is NOT the right material, and a guy that is 80 years old, likely to die while on the job. Who, oh who... elects/votes for a practically dead guy? Only Americans." - I can't understand anyone who could vote for the McCain/Palin ticket outside of the most narrow view... the most stupid VP choice in history. She is an embarrassment.
"While, at the other side, a dream-team was being created, coincidence? No. These elections were one big charade and the outcome was known beforehand, the only true question was Obama or Hillary, either way unique. Obama is a PR stunt, and the corporations keep on ruling the country." - If the outcome was predestined it was because enough Americans were fed up with the leadership of a person and party that had stopped to think before it acted and was out of touch with 65% of the country and 99% of the world! However almost all preelection polls showed Hillary losing to McCain even with Palin on the ticket, the distrust of Hillary (Clintons) ran deep. BHO is far more than a PR stunt. People voted for him KNOWING that it would eventually mean higher taxes, something that had never happened before. So if people voted for him because they felt like he offered a shot a restored dignity and transparency and accountability and normal American decency - you show me another country who gives as much to the global poor - and you call that PR, then it's good PR to me.
I guess the question is since we don't have whipping boy Bush to blame for everything, one might have to think a bit about what is worthwhile and accurate US bashing vs what is not.
I hope very much you read these comments NOT as a bash at you (or anyone for that matter), just honest and respectful dialogue. Salaam.
freedom does not include islam ..
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I love america, baseball and hotdogs but I dunno why I end up in this shit hole here
ok now, give FU a visa to america now....yala
Not for me I hope... not again!
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Using Garlic will Help Ban-request =P
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Ban-request denied!
The reason: HE IS TOO TALL!
We are scared! :)
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Alexa, I am not a hater of the individual. I sincerely dislike the 'stereotype' and I have met many many many many that fulfill the description.
We have a QL'er here that, day in day out, displays the misplaced feelings of superiority, misplaced arrogance and shortsightedness/ignorance of the stereo-type American.
Next to that I am a not a big fan of the American culture, as far as you can call it a culture, it is stolen land with an insignificant history, the founding fathers are a joke. Politically nobody likes the Americans a lot, especially because everybody believes that the USA is democratic, while in reality it is no more than a kleptocracy, and no less communist/socialist than Russia.
Economically, it has been doing fine until recently. Yet the American dream has been a 'life in the slum' for many, also overrated.
A nice example of American ignorance is the previous election. The Republicans came up with a highly disputable hockey mom, that until today keeps on proving she is NOT the right material, and a guy that is 80 years old, likely to die while on the job. Who, oh who... elects/votes for a practically dead guy? Only Americans.
While, at the other side, a dream-team was being created, coincidence? No. These elections were one big charade and the outcome was known beforehand, the only true question was Obama or Hillary, either way unique. Obama is a PR stunt, and the corporations keep on ruling the country.
you mean you are a troll?
moddddddddddddddds ban this guy now.
Troll
Having been here 6 years I can count on one hand the number of times been to Chilis or Appleby's or any of that US commercial food tripe. Right with DeeDee prefer the local in all it's variety!
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I thought they all hanged in TGI Fridays? As every day here for our Yankee friends is a Friday?..:)
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Don't be so serious, guys. Good morning.
Made in USA cookies :D
NFH where are my 10000 cookies that you owe me.
darude, its also an american fastfood chain first opened in Miami, florida...hahahhahaa
you should have said kubos king instead
No Wrong
Burger King is Made IN Qatar by Pinoys in the BG kitchen. Never seen a Chinese working there :)
Burger King is "Made in China", I think.
Excuse me i dont like McDonalds & KFC i only like Burger king with their XXL fries :D
now i even my hatred for America is getting even worser like Canadians :P
you hate americans but you keep on eating at mcdonalds,
if you were to work for a company, which one would you choose, an american company or an arab company?
hey go to al-udeid base man.
you will never find me at Chili's, Bennigans, Applebees, Fuddruckers, or any of the US chains for that matter. You will find me at Turkey Central, Thai Snack, the Indonesia place in the souqs, Bukhara, Tanjore, Megamart, and the American School. Why do you care anyway? A large part of the charm of Doha is making friends with all different nationalities in my opinion.
Yes Gica, that says enough... doesn't it.
Funiculus, you seem to know better than me Uncle Sam...But did you see the icon of Abu? It's scary...So, I'm out! See ya! :)
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are you kiddin'?
Darude wins Oscar for best wolf- actor in "Dances with Wolves"
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Gica, Uncle Sam... is that the idiot with the IQ of 78?
Abu, because you like them so much...it is dedicated to you.
You just kiss goodbye your USA Visa...Uncle Sam is watching!
Maxgyver, whats to like?
Enlighten me.
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darude, you hate the americans or you simply just don't like them?
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
Go To "ALAUDED" base, u will find a lot of them with guns =P
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yes sure try Applebees.
Americans are the worst creatures walking on surface of this earth
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