Proposal to ban smelly people from buses
Something smells fishy here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
US civil rights group believes the 14th amendment of the constitution may protect the smelly.
Honolulu city council has gone back to the drawing board after a proposal to ban smelly people from its buses proved unworkable.
The Hawaiian council had considered making it illegal to have “odors that unreasonably disturb others or interfere with their use of the transit system”.
But lawyers from the city and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said it was vaguely worded, would result in subjective judgments being made and may even have been unconstitutional.
Professor Robert McKeever, head of department at London Metropolitan University’s department of law, governance and international relations, said that it was the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment that the lawyers were considering.
“It was passed in the 1860s and its purpose was to give freed slaves equal treatment under the law. Since then it’s been extended to cover gender and gay equality.
“The idea is that the law may not favour one group over another, so presumably the lawyers are thinking that you can’t give preference to nice-smelling people over foul-smelling people. It sounds ludicrous but in the US anything is possible.
“It’s the most litigious society imaginable and there’s bound to be someone in Honolulu who smells and would like to vindicate their right to travel on public transport.”
Source: Telegraph
deodorant is not part of their everyday lives haha
at work lots of them even have bad breaths that i want to wear a mask to avoid the smell when they talk to me!LOL
If it will be implemented,.,then, more people will WALK and Kharwa Mowasalat Co. will CLOSED!!!
the best solution with regard to this problem is the segregation of passengers...exclusive public transport for smelly passengers ...
respect the smelly people........
Lot of people blaming labors and third world people for bad smell, what you will do if your boss is stingy, when he opens his mouth the whole room fills with rotten egg smell. That too he is from states, may be self smell nobody cares. Judging others first with their nationality and TWC etc..... So, nohing to do with education or place you belongs to, it's rather your self decision to be presentable and clean.
Qattie, this isn't about whether some people have a better sense of smell than others, that is a rather immature and unintelligent way to argue. This discussion is about the fact that Qatar has an unusual demographic based on social strata and wealth, thus causing interesting debate.
Sun, the ENT visit is highly reccomended for those who aren't offended by the smell. Unless you haven't noticed it's a combination of body odour coupled with clothing that hasn't been washed for weeks. If you're defending that then your avatar suits you perfectly :)
Ms Cattie, if you will be more observant, you will note that we are not talking about whether people should bath or not, we are talking about whether they should be banned from public transport. And the answer is 'no' because that crowd is mainly comprising of hardworking labourers who do not have any other means of transport.Rather than them seeing an ENT surgeon, why don't you see a neurologist for such early Alzeimer's?
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
Ahaa, now i understand why expats are banned from Hajj flights.
Jasmine & Anne
With all due respect, I cannot understand why you both took offence to people who are sensetive to people who refuse to wash, haven't you noticed that some of us offered washing supplies yet these people refuse to use them. Rather than assume its prejiduce why not assume it's incentive to get them to wash?
No offence but maybe your sence of smell isn't up to par?
As i've noticed the same nonchalant attitude of 'non washers' because they, much like yourselves are oblivious to the extremely offensive stench.
A ENT doctor visit maybe in order or if you are part of the 'non washing' populus, do spare the rest of us.
Thank you Jasmine...! I was just astonished with these people that I could not find it in words to reply,but as you put it so eloquently I would not have too!
The idea is nice but almost impossible to implement. Who has the nerve to tell someone smelly so lol
so no one like the natural smell? what if some of the deodorants trigger allergic reactions to people? who will get the blame?
How strange that a string of comments should happen at the same time all with the same attitude. Maybe they all just got home from the meeting of the Intolerance Society.
maybe the next Qlvg event could b handing out perfumes.deos,shampoo n soap 2 'the chosen people'..any contributors?..should b a lot of sensitive noses lining up..
better still (cost effective)would be to spray phenol,dettol on people walking down the streets/entering malls,once its confirmed theyr smelly..any volunteers..?..
other ideas r welcome too.. ' save our noses' campaign..
Someone mentioned that the redolent labourers alibi is that they cannot afford hygiene supplies. Unfortunately this is not always the case, because personal hygiene is a habit instilled during childhood, by parents & society, these smells to the parties who offend others noses are accustomed to the stench, therefore aren’t offended by it, probably even welcome it.
In my personal experience with the staff I employ, there are off course the very clean ones, not surprisingly, they are the cleverer ones, who take pride in how they dress and smell, very efficient and professional, they earned my highest respect..
Then their colleagues the smelly ones who see me physically wane at their odour couldn’t care less.
I have given them supplies and instructed that they cannot come to work unless they bathe accordingly, to no avail as they make an effort for one week then fall back into their old habits.
As futile as it may seem, I have learnt to be brasher and demand that they bathe, to this they adopt a more creative comeback that they don't smell and in fact have bathed…notice the smelly ones are the most boisterous. It surprises me that they are oblivious to my obvious distress
Once the smell was so intolerable I couldn’t help several gag reflexes as the result. You would assume they were shamed? Not surprisingly they weren’t according to their rationale its all in my head.
I don't find banning and discriminating against smelly people a bad thing, so long as they have the supplies then theres no excuse.
Instead of banning smell people from buses why not tell these guys to stop eating certain type of food for a start, and than practice personal hygeine. There are lots of these kinds here in qatar that smells like pig.
should also be implemented here in qatar....
PM, I wasn't ranting at you, your point was perfectly reasonable and you were also defending the men
legal_pad: u r welcome.. bt plz keep some distance
No one could hurt a mutant feelings, our feelings are mutated already.
Thanks for the compliments.
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Don't you get it? It is the last joke or posting in QL that you are going to read about.
despite u smel like a roten fish
legal_pad: i like u
Friends Karwa has come up with another solution. They are starting buses specially for those people who think they smell good and are too critical to smelly people...................I bet 10 to 1 , these people will still complaint....... Being critical of others is a bad habit which stinks more than smelly people. BTW charges are 100 Qr a trip and I am the cashier.
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
in this case, you forbid human rights..
each of us deserves equal treatment regardsless of nationality..it's there culture and personal threats.
WE MUST RESPECT THEM...
it's not discrimination at all...it's how one takes care of his self. they don't have the word "clean" in their dictionary i guess...
Funny that with colour discrimination still very much in evidence everywhere, people are more worried about discrimination based on smell!!!!
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
i have heard of one particular race who associates "odor" with "sex appeal". the more one smells, the more opposite sex will be attracted to her/him.....Personally & frankly, it isn't funny to be around somebody who stinks...BUT, it's neither a reason to shun them away from the things that other people enjoy, or from where they got benefit of. That's discrimination!!! and discrimination is more abominable than being smelly...i salute u jj.
I'm sorry if i smell..its the curry..I'm addicted..think i'll join curryholics anonymous(if that can be anonymous)..to hell wid that..I'll buy my own bus!!!..screw you legal pad..at least we wash our asses(everytime we go)..no skid marks..lol..
alexa: you completely missed the point! tut..never mind..
PM, Flash news, Flash news
My mutant science crew discovered that "DRYWOODS' AKA monkey, has reached to the mammal species of the sloth.
Sloths secrete all their body liquids through their own skin including the droppings.
What a turfed smelly mammal.
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I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
PM: if speakin truth iz a crime.. i m ritly being accused n banned
It's amazing how pathetic some kids are that they will do anything to feel like they belong. :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
legal_pad: PM iz smelly n u r very smelly... u both yucky
I've heard of kissing toes, but foot washing ???
You live and Learn !
as well as everything else so as not to be malodorous and make people sick. lol
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I would not mind smelling and caressing that bad foot of yours as long you remove and that smelly cast. Of course I know you will wash your foot properly with soap and water....
:)
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning.
I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
If a laborer is coming from a day working in the hot sun and smells after work, that is one thing. But non-laborers who just refuse to wash with soap or launder their clothes regularly is inexcusable. It's one thing to be unaware that you smell. It's another to not care, when people keep a distance from you, cover their nose, bring you soap and deodorant or even tell you you need to wash. Then it's just being rude and classless.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
from your smelly bus. Believe me we will not want to ride with you! :-P
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
Graduated from Xavier Institute expled u becoz u stink... yuck yuck..
You could stop the smell and spell check your comments again?
I'm a mutant and definitely you are not my kind smell.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning.
I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
legal_pad: so dat waz da reason ur US visa waz rejected....
The rumor (survey) about the US Embassy services here in Qatar
Most US VISAS applicants are denied, because of the bad smell.
The great majority are Pakistanis, Indians and Asians applicants.
The favorite color coded stamp system, the US Embassy staff use is the color brown.
Meaning:
"You smell like Crap"
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I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
legal_pad: u r botherin alexa.. he just said he cant tolerate smelly ppl
Your mouth smells like bad breath.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning.
I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
think_pad: Xavier Institute for Higher learning iz stil lukin fr u fr obtainin a degree by fraud
I ban all those garlic heads.
Including all Hndus, Pakistanis and all Asians, always smelling like rotten eggs and bad mix of garlic protruding from their skins.
Except The Pinay ladies, they are always smelling good and looking good.
For the European races no ban, except those smelly French and again those English Hindus and Pakistanis from My bus.
If you are lebanese then you are OK in my book, but other wise you are ban from my bus.
PM
I'm glad that you REMOVED that smelly cast from your foot, other wise I would had to ban you.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning.
I guess humour, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder...or understanding, in this case. By Alexa ( as I do not plagiarize)
letz nt complain abt PM anymore...
i used to have a kiwi colleague who according to him neer used a soap/shampoo/cologne in his entire life. his blonde hair always looked a bit lifeless. he said he was against all chemicals and used only water when needed.
he used to sit beside me, less than a meter away.
i also had a german colleague. i dont know what he used or did not use but he had a serious BO problem. we never moaned about these guys of even brought BO issues up.
oh not to mention, london tube, monday mornings, every other person had a bad beer breath. yuck!
ban PM on dis thread.... yuckkk
Alexa is banned from my bus......
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
don't be racist people :(
smelly people are people just like us but didn't have the chance to take a shower
besides : maybe they found there smell great , who are we to judge on that
They are worth 10 of the people who think they should be banned from buses, decent hardworking men away from their families to give them a better life.......
Jasmine you are the only honest Qler I have read so far.
If you can't see beyond external appearances or your oversensitive nose cannot stand smell of hard work, you are an maladjusted idiot. You are banned from my bus and my jungle.
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
...and someone asked for Karwa to implement it.....expecting the labor class to take shower aleast 5 times a day and use a deodarant bottle/day.
Its better to demand for complete elimination of the poor and labor class from the world.....All the problems of the Elite would be solved.
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Give you full support. I offen take bus i know the problem well...
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Yes! You bloody smell racists!!! :P
Well said..
Actually many missed the point of the post relating to possible law suits for discrimination... :O)
face mask for your full protection......as in FULL...you can avoid also Influenza A(H1N1) virus or even SARS also....or for those who forgot to brush their teeth...there's a lot of face mask to choose from...simple face mask to N95 face mask or the best one which is GAS MASK....you know body odor is one type of GAS coming out from the body.......
I understand that the situation here is different. But in the US or on an airplane where people pay a lot to to fly in reasonable comfort considering the close quarters, I do support having malodorous people wash before boarding. Southwestern keeps hygiene products and has someone escort the offender to the washroom where they can clean up. They have even provided changes of clothes where the clothes were so smelly.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I have worked with smelly people here a few times and I had to let them know that they needed to wash better, use deodorant and make sure their clothes were laundered. It's not comfortable but it needs to be done. :-(
Strangers in the mall you can't do much about. But in an office or plane? ABSOLUTELY!
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
I am a western woman who used Karwa buses most working days for 2 years, not for a short trip, Dukhan-Doha return daily. (round trip 3 hours). Almost ALL of the other passengers were men who were working on the roads. They treated me with nothing but respect, courtesy and yes, sometimes they may have been hot from working 8 hours in the hot sun. They are worth 10 of the people who think they should be banned from buses, decent hardworking men away from their families to give them a better life. Most people who turn up their noses at these people wouldn't dream of taking the bus anyway so no issue as far as I am concerned. If you still feel this way after using Karwa on a regular basis then fine, that's your opinion. If you don't ever use the bus then I don't see why you feel so strongly.
PM even some educated people who work at offices smell...or some men and ladies who go shopping at the malls... :(
They do not live in huge labor camps with limited access to bathroom and laundry facilities. They can afford soap. I think in most developed countries this is the case. The situation is different in Doha because of the fact that so many laborers are brought in from under-developed countries to develop Qatar. They are often kept in appalling living conditions working for an inhumane wage that might not make soap and laundry detergent look like priorities. But ANYBODY who has access to water can at least rinse their body well (and preferably add some soap so they don't smell. I have ZERO patience for reasonably educated people who don't consider how their odor is assaulting the senses of others.
I assume you don't smell Sun, so others can follow your lead :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
If you don't allow smelly people in public transports, nobody will hardly use these buses.In Qatar, only low class worker and high class chimps like me use buses.
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
You start announcing that you must be reasonably odor-free to get on the bus, plane, etc. Then when someone comes to buy their ticket or get onboard, if they are malodorous you simply tell them they must clean up and deodorize before boarding. That's how Southwest Airlines handles it.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
have enacted a policy towards people unfit to fly based upon hygiene. You simply cannot charge someone a fare to travel and then subject them to someone who stinks up the whole bus or plane. I have had to be moved SEVERAL times on airplanes because of the malodorous seat partner I was assigned to. Had they not been able to change my seat, I would have gotten off the plane and cancelled my ticket.
In this day and age there is no excuse for people flying not to be able to afford soap and water.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
...and now someone wants to implement a ban on it?
Perfect killjoy, britexpat! LOL
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how about asking the company to give deodorant and bath soap as monthly benefit...it would be cool!!!if somebody stinks his salary will be deducted...and get perfume bonuses...what do you think? get rid off the stinkers...
when my driver was too smelly my husband suggest me to buy dozen of deodorant and perfume for him and i told him also to take shower. i was vomiting inside the car coz of his smell.
I WANT TO HANDLE "LADIES CHECK-POINT SECTION!"
...anybody has a spare gas mask?
i dont like to work there
sorry but i dont like to there...how i iwsh we have 1 bus station like that here in doha bcoz u know other people smells like ew!
tess...believe me no one will survive that job here even if they give high salaries. it's a killer job lol
hellomoto you want to work there??
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
how i wish there's a bus station in doha like that,
There are no 'Bus Stations' like these in Qatar.
uggggghhhh! tess, i did! and really i covered my nose right there and then. i didn't care at all if she gave me the look. and even in taxi's here it's really bad. not just smelly but even footprints are seen everywhere inside the car! and it's reeking like all the sweat seeped through the covers. can't really stand it and bought a car of my own... sorry again but it's just that this is infuriating most of the time. i didn't get the chance to try and ride the bus but i heard it's a lot worse...
...and "check-points" in the Bus Stations!
The solution!
Tess, get one nose-clamp! It may help... ;)
Many cars also carry heavy smell with them.
I personally find over perfumed people more irritating than the so called smelly people.
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
definitely should be implemented here in Doha! pleaaaassseee!!!!
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Instead of this, they can offer free nose-clamps for the sensitive people!
What about over-perfumed people? Same category?
Oops MD you just beat me to the idea of Smell Police.
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
Who will be the judge whether they are smelly or not.
Is it going to be a special branch of police who will smell anyone who looks suspicious???
"Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car."
Even if they have a law, who's gonna follow it up and implement it? The "Smell Police"?
cant they have that law here in qatar.. not just in public transpo but even inside the malls... is it possible??>..
Let It Be.....
This must be implemented also here in Qatar...This is just my opinion and no offense meant!
MO RIN...YUN LANG!!!
everyone should have proper hygiene...and other people in this country are just like that. really they smell so bad you want to hurl. i don't know if they've ever known deodorants or do take a bath or something. sorry but it's the truth. i think their noses are clogged up or somethin'. :(
How about everytime you enter, it sprays deodrant on you.
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This should be law! No one likes smelly people. Especially not on public transport lol