A female student in Doha

Good call zaria

Right decision...all the best.

You made the right decision.

P.S. I dont expose my meat. I simply cool down when its hot by wearing tanktops/skirts/shorts etc. So, men, cut down the "its all your fault" comments.

I forgot about this thread. Anyways, i gave up on the scholarship long time ago. Too many restrictions, I'm not sure how long I would handle it. Someone tried to give me lessons in Islam, I saw it somewhere above. I know my religion, quite well, I may say. And its my personal issue if I will follow it or not. But thanks for the time you spent trying to get me to the right path.

And thank you for all the answers and the welcomings, but I'll rather stick to Europe :)

stop thinking , come to Qatar !

It will be a safe and loving environment for you I'm sure ...

...and if you don't "expose your meat" still be prepared for such stares.

Why women have to dress to show meat then blame the attention they draw. If you expose be preparedfor such stares.

Are you muslim from Bosinia, if so any muslim from any country has to follow principles of Islam. What religion teaches in regard to dress, lifestyle,drinking, or sex. A good mulim fears Allah, not autority, laws or people. No fear of Allah no body can stop youfrom indulgence you are questioning about. For that matter no other relgion teachings allow such. If you are muslim, spare your free time to know about Islam and insha Allah you will be guided. May Allah guide you not the people.

So does anyone know what happened to this Bosnian student girl who wrote down this post?

Is she here already? Did anything happen to her here in Doha? :) Did she use her pepper-spray ? :)

lolz MxY

Below standart = those you don't look at all and even turn around immediately :)

Standart= you look at and maybe stare a little bit :)

Above standart= you stare and look at them constantly :))

edifis,

There are 3 kinds:

- below standard.

- standard.

- above standard.

The standard is ISO 9407:1991 it's based on a mean ... :P

doha is a safe place but u dont when u get into a problem so always keep a small knife or spray with u ;)

MxY what is a below standard girl?

I believe Doha is 100 times safer than any major city in Europe (esp. Paris, Barcelona, Rome, Madrid, Milan,...) and America.

Crimes against women are unbelievably high in these places. So just because some guys offer friendship or stare at you doesn't mean Doha is not safe. Where in the world men don't approach girls, or don't stare? :)

Women population is less in Doha then other places, and this is why even the below standard girls get a little bit attention, but this shouldn't give them any right to talk about men as flesh eaters.

Sure no one was approaching you in your home country, since there were plenty of other beauties people were looking at :) Doha has spoiled you girls :))))

Uh, edifis, you are from Asia, aren't you?? Stop staring.

About safety: It is very safe generally but it is safer for big fat girls with clubs or guns!

Other wise you may face deadly(I will eat you alive) stares. After talking to a lot of women I came to know that too much exposure to these kind of deadly stares(especially from Asian labors) are extremely fatal. It will lead to erosion of the skin and make your skin vulnerable to ultraviolet rays............CANCER!

Don't worry(about clothes).... there is a nude beach in Dukhan. You can go there sans dress.

whoa! pretty strict nation it is! so this means no live -ins!! oh my goodness..! though i don't have a bf but yet! so in a nut shell ...the state is unsafe for girls to some extinct...as you have few perverts surrounding you ...pheww!

whoa! pretty strict nation it is! so this means no live -ins!! oh my goodness..! though i don't have a bf but yet! so in a nut shell ...the state is unsafe for girls to some extinct...as you have few perverts surrounding you ...pheww!

ibidu1, Do you really think that any woman who has bluetooth on is looking for your phone number???

Lol, thank you for the answer :)

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

You women in this thread sound so innocent, puhlease! How about we talk about the women in the malls pointing their phones at you with their blue tooth turned on. Looking for numbers!

I'm originally qatari but Ive lived most of my life in the US. The women in qatar are more aggressive! Well, atleast the ones I have run into.

Zaria, you will like qatar! Club scene is kinda lame! If you want to go to the good clubs, you would need to go to dubai.

Cure for brain missing hasn't been found yet :P :D

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

Zaria, Smoke needs not cigarettes now but something else from your pharmacy...

No smoke, I get you ciggies :D, I have an information that davidoff is 1,50 euro over there, thats gonna be heaven. Here, for that money you can only get crap that tastes like fresh grass.

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

bad cat smoke. she offered you ciggy's not asked you for them.

Speed i'm multi tasking :P

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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what the hell are you doing here?? go to your Billard forum ;-p

Wow she smokes too..yippie coffee and ciggies lovely combination. One more over to the dark side :D

Err hold on something isnt right here..she's telling ME to get her ciggies? :| i said i'm the welcoming committee not the charity committee...for that you can contact Speed. :p

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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A female welcoming comitee :D ? Hey smoke, you can even get cigarettes from me, just let me go through all the barriers and actually come there :D

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bleu, i am sorry, i am busy at 2:00 am , try to reschedule :P

lol bleu.

After careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that I will prefer to be unwelcome here :P

"Live with passion, Die with style"

whyteknight/smoke,

Yes, there is one: we just beat newcomers up, and throw them in a dark alley at 2:00 AM.

Thats too bad, Female Welcoming committee has only 2 good looking guys. Male welcoming committee will have a LOT of good looking GUYS in the committee :P so what will it be now?

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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Noooooo I want to be welcomed by one such committee :)

"Live with passion, Die with style"

QL Male welcoming committee? You want to be president of that committee WK?

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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QL female welcoming committee??

Is there any QL male welcoming committee :P

"Live with passion, Die with style"

LOL Lebaneseman, Zaria could do much worse in Qatar than buy Smoke coffee. :) Anyway, he's a whipped kitty now so she has nothing to fear from him.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

can i join this committee?:P

LebaneseMan i'm not asking for a date...infact i belong to the QL Female welcoming committee...Olive should know this by now :P

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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smoke this website is not for dating :P Olive will get angry !:D

Ahh Koffee!! Its the second best thing i like after beer :P

If thats your thing then welcome to Qatar coz we have plenty of coffee shops all around us.

Tell you what, since we've all been so nice in giving you free advice, coffee is on YOU :P

Yes its QL tradition for the new Female members to invite Smoke/KSA(all though KSA seems to be out of the picture now a days i'm filling in for him) for a nice cup of koffee. Food is most welcome too...:P

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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Easy to say :)

**I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

Last but not the least , if you keep on asking suggestion & idea of more people U will get confused, Just visit qatar & know it personally

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MY NAME IS KHAN

It's in my week routine. Bosnia and Balkan generally are part of the world where people enjoy going out, wasting time, hanging together, having fun :)

We have something called coffee culture, that means that everyone has coffee with friends every single day, sometimes more times a day :D.

I do it too, it's in my blood. No matter how busy I was that day, and how tired I am, I can't miss the coffee. Foreigners who come to Sarajevo usually say it's the only place where they've seen all cafes full in the middle of the day.

Bosnians usually party on weekends, mostly fridays and saturdays, but many of us don't have a specific day. I go partying whenever I have time, no matter if it's tuesday, monday or saturday. For example, last night I had a blast in a local pub till 5 am :)

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

thts good since u r muslim..so u know better the playground tht u about to enter. i think u will get used to it.

and about night club, did u always go to night club in bosnia? is it part of ur weekend routine? well.....i guess if u spent ur weekend time in night club, i think u know the atmosphere better than i do....since night club i crossed them out from my list since im 0 days old........lo0o0ol

I'm 29.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Hey guys, keep it at down low :)

I'm ok with the rules, obviously I don't like some of them, but I never expected things to be perfect in the first place. I'm simply asking all these questions because I wanna know where I'm going. Maybe it's gonna be a bit easier for me to adapt since I'm a Muslim, so I do understand the culture. I'm turning 21 in december, so night-life-isolation won't last for too long :).

Olive, is it ok to ask how old you are :)?

**I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

hi ,

also there are lots of bosnian students (male+Female) over here. speially at Qatar foundation and Qatar aeronautical college.

:)

regards,

Where are you getting this stuff? I didn't say there was anything wrong with the law, I told her it was the law. Of course I don't agree with the law, but hey, it's not my country nothing I can do about it.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Ok why do you think Olive that all that is legal in west should also be legal here? Still, as long as you are good and your intentions pure you should have no problem whatsoever...

zaria, about shopping...........NO WORRY

its paradise for woman to shopp here........they will build tons of malls to satisfied woman and ladies thirst for shopping. we have all top brand which i cant afford it ....just mention, LV, CD, GUCCI, ARMANI, etc....the one u just mention its affordable one.....zara, splash, sana, lifestyle, H&M, Bershka, Mango, Next, Zara Pull and Bear, TOP SHOP, Pinkie, still many more....

about sex before marriage, thts for sure its very strict...police, CID always around and everywhere and work undercover and normally CID dress and act like normal people, so be careful........

not only local who can report....all peoples who see it can report u...sometimes some local did THE STUFF in hidden place or somewhere. dont think tht local will report u, non local normally who play good role in this matter.........

so better for u not do it, or do not stay with guys who is not ur relatives or brother.......better for ur own good. just stay away from troubles.

zaria...........all i know u can go to any night clubs tht available in doha but u should b offer 21 and have valid QID or bring ur passport to enter.

and about wax and saloon.......manicure and pedicure cost it depends where u want to make it. if u go to hotel, sure the price alot expensive compare the one in normal saloon. but dont worry it is affordable price.....

like i told u, here is heaven for beauty, u can find all cosmetics, salon, spa and nice gown everywhere........so dont worry. like i said . U CAN STILL BE PREETY WHILE UR STAYING IN DOHA ;)

no merci....i called salooon cos i always type long word ........hahaha..............i did tht without my awareness........when it comes to comment no need to see the spelling in DETAILS, as long as she got the meaning, tht will b fine

Strange that she would call it "saloon"....only people here do that.

What comes around, goes around....

Did I blame the locals?

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

I didn't say its legal or illegal. Its not a problem unless someone reports as you said earlier. And who will report? it should be your own people. Don't blame locals for anything and everything...

Shocking life till date (",)

It's illegal blablabla.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Olive, I don't think consensual cohabiting is a problem unless you get pregnant or end up in sour relation...

I think you'll have a bit of culture shock for sure, especially since you'll be attending a segregated University & you won't be old enough to go to the night clubs here till you're 21. So it might be tough for the first while....

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

"n let me b clear to one fo the guys above.... not just men look for sex... women r never the less..."

You seems to have good experience ;-)

Never listen to what people say...

none thing alike, end of the day its your call , which guy to meet, what to wear, what ot eat, how much to spend..

your 20..even if it takes u 3 years to learn u rlessaons...by 23 u will be grown enough to face this world on your own..mean place trust me...

n let me b clear to one fo the guys above....not just men look for sex...women r never the less...

Live u r life, know your limits.

Enjoy enjoy & enjoy

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MY NAME IS KHAN

If you have good friends circle you will enjoy living in Qatar. It's all depends on YOU.

Qatar is a peaceful place.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

"Resident Attention Seeker"

Do you agree with FriedUnicorn :)?

*I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

No, I'm Canadian :)

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

"Resident Attention Seeker"

I don't really see a problem in all the restrictions. The only thing I have to adapt to is clothing...

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

...restrictions. I would suggest you look elsewhere if you can help it. You will not like the country either,coming from Bosnia. I used to have a colleague from Bosnia and she was very progressive culturally.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

"Resident Attention Seeker"

Olive, thank you for your answers. Are you Qatari?

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For the most part they don't. Frankly that particular law is probably the most broken one in Qatar, next to the law against homosexuality. For most people they turn a blind eye and the rule of thumb is just be cautious and don't be obvious.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Yeah, thats what I thought, people mind others' business :)

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What usually happens is that someone reports you. If they find out you stayed for x amount of time with someone you aren't related or married to, and someone has complained about that, then it's assumed you were having illicit relations and you are deported and in the most extreme cases lashed.

And no, it doesn't just apply to Muslims.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

But there's something that really gets me confused. I know that mixed accommodation is also forbidden, but how can a law representative know who you are living with and whether you are having sex or not. And does this law apply only to muslims in qatar or everyone?

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

Yes it is.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

All right guys, I really found out a lot on this thread. Oh, and Im curious abt something, I talked to some ppl and I've heard that sex before marriage is forbidden by law :D, is this really true ?

I kada te nema jer tako hoću..

Zaria, We have everything...

Know the Rules and Live safe...

Good Luck

Thanks Silvia, your words are comforting. What about shopping? Are there brands like H&M, Zara, Mango?

thank you nomansland. Check your inbox, I sent you a pm.

I do have a friend from bosnia working in a nite club

Zaria first of all let me remind u if u post your query as female student in doha u will get lots of private messages , if u really wanna know then u can post just like student not specifying gender

About Alcohol yes aohol is avaibale in Doha , supplied by qatar distribution company but for that you should get the licence

licence is issued depend on yur salary,nationality & religion

Apart from that there are n number of clubs in doha ,where u can have drinks with out any restrication but it will be little costlier , for eg: 1 peg of any hard drink will cost you around 50QR & a bottle of beer around 38QR

MY NAME IS KHAN &

IAM NOT A TERRORIST

Hey guys, here I am.

Regarding the last comment, about showing affection in public, I dont really think Im gonna have problem with that since Im not really planning to date a Qatari ("Choose a spouse within your nation" - plus Im taller than most of them :D.

What about night life and clubbing? Is alcohol allowed in the clubs?

Girls, if I wanna wax and do my nails in the saloon, how much would that cost?

Forget them all.. Call me on 999 and I will take care of everything :P

On a serious note though just respect the local culture and you will be fine.. Plenty of single and desperate men around created due to the unbalanced economy here more than anything else as they are forced to live away from their families so just dress modestly, cover yourself up and also avoid Public displays of affection with any guy...

"Live with passion, Die with style"

Hey guys, here I am again. First of all, thank you for all the answers, you have been really helpful. I have more questions, but no time to type them now, so I will do it tonight. And thanks to everyone who sent the private msg (except messages like "call me when you are in Doha etc :D", just for the record, Im not coming there to look for my soul mate, but to make a career and Im not intending to call anyone, guys (men) you can stop leaving your phone numbers :)). I will answer the messages tonight as well. Thanks once more to everyone.

Qatar is an Islamic country and very safe place.

You are just to follow the rule of being Modest. A famous saying "While in Rome do as the Romans do"

Remember This place is warmer during summer, but for everyone. One should know dress code.

QU SUCKS

Thanks for your consern olive

anyway we dont want to move the therat to another subject

we all trying to help her out and i hope we all did

thanks all

Hazim M H

Auditor

GT

zaria, i never been to any uni in doha, but i spent my life here the last 10 yrs.

i live with my parents so i dont know the safety and the environment in college, so i cant say anything about tht.

about the DOHA DRESS CODE, its hot over here during summer....u can go tank tops but at least u have to hv something to cover so its not widely open. beside u can choose any cotton materials tht suitable during tht season and its available in doha.

The problem is not coming from wht u wear here, the problem here is the peoples minds, the stare and the treatment tht u will get from ppl around you.

my big concern is tht theres alot of workers here who are far from their wifes and sure they have need tht r not fulfilled.....the only thing im afraid if u wear these kind of dress tht u just mentioned "(i do wear skirts, shorts, tank tops, sleeveless dresses etc.)" it will motivates peoples do bad things to you. but all i can say try to minimize the "openess" in way of ur dressing for ur own safety, but at the end its up to u.

since u told us tht theres alot of men coming up to u wherever u go + with the dress code u used to wear, lets say the number of men who will follow you increase to more 50% and maybe half or most of these peoples mind are bad. since u know, most of gurls and womans here are cover their body, so it will b something new if they see gurls who open.....some of them considered tht as SHOWS for them to see. and the gurls and womans here will staring at you and talking bad stuff about u.

SIMPLY...i consider tht as part of jealousy cos they cant do the same like u did. but for me, whtever ur choice, you will take the risks.

men behave differently based on their education level and how OPEN their mind can go. open minded men can understand tht but wht about the none educated and close minded one? but dont worry, theres alot of foreigners here also, they adjusted their dress code well and can blend with people here. but the last thing i heard about the rules to enter the mall in doha, i dont think they will let u enter the mall or maybe they will gv u fine for NOT DRESS PROPERLY .......but i duno if the rules change or not. you will know it by urself soon as u come here.

for everything here u have to pay except for breathing,...free air available. if u want to stay in dorms, i think they already include tht in ur expenses when u pay the money for the tuition fee and all.

things getting bit expensive here than before. but still affordable.......but i dont know the difference in the bosnia currency to qatar currency so i cant say its very expensive or cheaper here.

for ur last Q, u can say doha is heaven for cosmetic. everywehre u go u can see cosmetics shops with different brand available in doha. start from the expensive one till the cheap one. so dont b afraid ......... u WILL STAY PREETY when u stay in doha. ;)

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LOL! scary! :D

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No but he probably has them. :P

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

what, is he a crab olive? :P

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Crawl back under your rock H_M_H

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Yep its happened - to all of us girls....

when you come to doha..:P

I don't like the drugs,but the drugs like me. :D

zaria, be cautious about 'these' men helping you out as snessy has pointed out :) j/k and yes change your

avatar.

you will enjoy qatar!

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I work at QU and I have been to Bosnia! beautiful country :) so pm me if i can help you.

qu is a segregated uni and so is the accommodation so within that framework you will not be mixing with boys.

there are minority of female students who are uncovered on campus.

don't use your photo as your avatar

I am running out of patience smoke.. Who knows when zaria will come here, Olive on the other hand is already in Qatar.. Just playing the percentages :P

"Live with passion, Die with style"

WK, you one of the desperate men in Qatar, focus man focus...your supposed to be pm'ing Zaria not Olive.

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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LOL, sorry Smoke, ok Zaira you can listen to Smoke, change your picture!

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

Olive I just sent you a PM :P

"Live with passion, Die with style"

Olive i'm flagging you as offensive! I for one pm'ed her already...no, not asking for friendsheep but telling her to take her pic out due to obvious reasons you've mentioned. i am offended though for your whole hungry "cat" staring at a piece of meat comment. :p

Good Fortune always comes knocking at your door...when you are sh*tting in the toilet!! :)

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Zaria whatever you do don't email any of the men who respond to this thread. They're just looking for sex. While Qatar is very safe in regards to theft & crime it is not so safe in regards to sexual harassment of women. The fact of the matter is that this country as a 20 to 1 ratio of men to women and there are A LOT of guys out there (especially the one's who will PM you from this site) who are a bunch of desperate losers. I'm sure there will be people who disagree with me, but you need to keep your wits about you, don't talk to strange men who approach at malls or when out and about, be careful when taking cabs if you've had a bit to drink (I recommend you always go with someone) and do dress modestly. By modestly I mean no tanks tops, no skirts or shorts above the knees, no skimpy dresses. Even then they're still going to stare at you like a hungry cat stares at a piece of meat.

QU is a sexually segregated Uni so you won't be interacting with men to much, but just be aware when you're outside the Uni.

"We submit to the majority because we have to. But we are not compelled to call our attitude of subjection a posture of respect." Ambrose Bierce

maurochiado, QU is not QF...

I go everyday in the main cafeteria of Qatar Foundation for lunch and boys and girls hang out togheter without particular problems..so don't worry for that. Summer is pretty hot they say, so get yourself som thin clothes...and go for pool/beach as well...a good suntanning...

H_M_H thank you so much for your answer, you have been very helpful! And I will write that e-mail address down for the case I have more questions.

Yes, I know Qatar differs Bosnia in many ways (climate, society, life standard, religion complexity etc..), but this is a great opportunity to become a part of a normal settled society, plus, Qatar university is a great university and the scholarship offer is great.

The only thing I was really concerned about is the safety of me as an alone uncovered female over there, but I feel much better about it now.

Do you know anything about the life in campus, cos I couldn't get too many information about that on the uni site. Are students allowed to leave campus anytime? Are men and women in the campus allowed to hang out and are there any like common places in the campus where men and women are allowed to mix ?

Thank you both for your answers once more.

Qatar is a safe country, but by the way y do u opt Qatar for this, it'll tough for u to manage here cause its much different from bosnia?