Qatar Multiple Permanent Work Visa

I beg your pardon??.. lol.. and why do i have to "Show Evidence"?? for what?

The guy asked for the advice, i have answered, that normally it takes 3 days, unless some issues come up .. what should I prove?? you are really out of your mind..

flor, for the 10th time: ALL documents you need are:

- passport copy;

- Grad. Cert ( not always, IF the position is high enough)

- NOC ( IF the person used to work in qatar within last 2 years)

That is it. There is nothing "to collect", just ask the potential employee to send all of them to you over e-mail. I assume that after these 2-3 miserable papers are received, they are sitting on someone desk for another month or two, and all this time this someone is playing "collecting the documents" show...

khalas, it became too boring and senselessly.. i am out of here..

Jerome, hope you have got your visa by now.. if still not, good luck to you.. :)

Show it please. Show Evidence of Your Swiftness, otherwise most of your statements might go to garbage can.

Lip Service is not appreciated here.

Thanks and regards.

Dang

you are talking about filing actual while Dang (and Treysdad statement)is talking about processing which include collection of pertinent documents. Now if you still insist your point, it will be a never-ending misunderstanding between the two of you!

flor, they are not different scenarios.

I say: if everything is OK, visa can be issued in 3 days.

Dang said: it can never happen under any circumstances.

I say: we DO it on the regular basis.

She says: you are lying, it is "validated" by someone that this is impossible.

I agree with the part, that when something is going wrong, visa might take forever (I stated it in my VERY first post), or even never be issued.

She doesn't want to agree that if everything is going smooth, it is normal for visa to be issued in 3 days.

I accept ALL range of time frame: from very short to NEVER.

She keeps insisting on some "paper work" and other BS, and tries to present that 2-month visa issuance is a NORMAL practice… which is NOT!

If it takes so long, there are either some complications in the case, OR some dilettantes are executing the case, who don't know how to properly perform their duties.

that is it.

they are talking of different scenarios! They will never agree because that are talking of different scenarios! They both opted to make offensive personal tirades to each other! Cool down, guys, you are both correct!

what Qs says is correct.

Sometimes companies recruit even if they dont have the quota for the nationality, thinking that it will be available to them after trying. This is where the major delay comes.

If company has visa, and all the documents are proper, then it takes only 3 days or even less. Else it will take months - can never mention the time period.

This is reality.

you are soo funny..and you are arguing about nothing, it looks like just for sake of arguments.. I do agree that visa might take 1 month, 2 month, or any uncertain time (and that's what I stated in my very first post, after which you repeated my words), or even as i said it might be NEVER issued, i.e. rejected..

but I also say that it IS possible to issue a visa in 3 days, and that's what we do regulary. I don't contradict with anyone, and I don't need to "comprehend carefully" anyone's posts "to validate the points", in order to know WHAT we are doing and HOW we are doing, and how long it takes for us to issue a visa. You are the one who seems to be very stubborn. You just cannot accept that someone can work better than you do, that's it..

and hey, what's this nonsense "Three days processing of work visa has already been validated as not the reality".. validated by WHOME?? you are really out of common sense...

If I can do something that YOU cannot do, it doesn't mean that it is impossible, it only means that YOU are not capable of doing something what I am capable of.

Sah?

If YOU cannot run 100m distance in 10,5 seconds (world record), it doesn’t mean it is impossible, it only means that this is beyond YOUR abilities, and there ARE people who can…

Sah?

If you cannot resolve some difficult Math equation, it doesn’t mean it is impossible, it only means that this is beyond YOUR limited math understanding, and there ARE people who can…

Understood now?

This is not a merchandizing website.

Let's face reality. I dont think Mr. Jerome who posted the topic needs a salesperson at this time.

Three days processing of work visa has already been validated as not the reality as contradicted by treydads. Hey- comprehend carefully treydad's comment.

Please dont be stubborn - try to listen to others' actual experience.

Your make-believe swiftness requires evidence. Show evidence!!!! I guess you are in a wrong place - make-believe things are seen mostly in movies - lol.

Take note - Credibility and Reality Count

Dang

you are only 3 days member.. it makes me think that you are relatively new in qatar.. I don't think you were in Qatar for let's say 3-4 years and started using QL only 3 days ago all of a sudden... if so, at least it explains a lot.. you most likely just have no clue how it CAN be, and you believe that the way your company works is the only right way... but let me tell you something. that's why world known companies prefer to pay 10-20 times more to the top HR service providers like us, rather than to keep whole bunch of lazy useless PROs, which it looks like your company consist of...

btw, speaking of theory.. it looks like you do have some idea about a theory.. but too bad, it doesn't help you too much, as it seems you don't know how to effectively apply it, if you say it is impossible to issue a work visa in 3 days..

ops, i am wondering how long it takes for you to issue an RP once the work visa is ready? I am sure you will come up with something like 15-25 days.. how about 36 hours? have you tried it?

Dang seriously, it doesn't take 2 months. There is something wrong there. I haven't got Visa for a long time due to the fact that quota for my nationality is reached by my company else I see my colleagues from other nationalities join and get their Visa in less than a week.

Mr. knight appreciates your comments QS :-D

Dang, relax,

1.i couldn't "borrow" any of your ideas, as i am the one who has responded first. And if you can read , it is clearly stated that the visa takes 3 days if everything is going smooth, i.e.:

-application is submitted by the Company (they might have forgotten about it)

- the Company already has a Quota for this particular position +nationality +gender (if not, then it might take forever to get an approval)

- the application isn't going through the additional security check (at this stage visa even might be rejected)

But.. if any of the above mentioned factors aren't there.. no one can tell when and what and how long...

Can you read it?

So rather you are the one who borrowed something from my post..

2. and hey, can't you still understand that i DO work in this business, and we ARE issuing a work visa in 3 days? ..and that it is NOT in theory, it IS in our daily practice.. you still don't get it? is it clear now? or do you want me to repeat it one more time: I AM WORKING IN IT.. hope you got it from the third time.. (with such slow understanding of simple words, no wondering it takes you 2 months to issue a work visa which can be ready in 3 days)

3. and again if you could see anything except of “grandiose yourself”, you could read that "Mr. Jerome expressed appreciation on my statements" long time before you even showed up. Even though it doesn’t mean anything, as “Mr. Jerome” is not in Qatar and has no clue how does it work, and cannot "evaluate" legitimacy of neither my post nor yours one. Too bad, you don’t understand even this point. 'Mr. Jerome' is just very happy to see your statement that Work visa needs 2 months to be issued.. Guess why.. because now he knows that he is not the only one who got f**ed by such slothful and slack service provider like yourself.

So again, for your information, I am working in this field (in case it's still not quite clear for you), and hey we are working with the companies that someone like yourself could only dream to work with… but hey, no way they would hire someone like yourself.. with "2 months" Work visa issuance they would go bankrupt in no time...

I pity for victims of your “services”.. may be jerome is one of them.. that’s why he is still waiting..

..stay relaxed and do me a favour, keep working your relaxed way..

As Mr. Jerome said, treysdad's and my comments-statements were two of the best. But he did not mention yours.

Anyway, it has already been established that what you have been writing here during the past 2 days were based on theory only, while treysdad's and mine were based on ACTUAL experience.In fact you have borrowed some of my statements as seen in your latest comment.

Theoretical information most of the time deviates a bit or at times differ greatly from reality.

I hope then that you will try to broaden your mind on actual situations.

Most members-readers here I think do not need much of theoretical solutions, because actual problems need solutions based on actual work.

You have no point in saying that I am irresponsible and incompetent. It is you who has a very limited knowledge on actual situations, that's why you opted to be offensive. Your offensive comments will surely backfire to you.

Mr. Jerome who opened this topic has already expressed appreciation on my statements as you have surely read.

Regarding your offensive comments, we still have to read the expected incoming comments from interested members-readers in this forum.

Thanks and be 'cool'

Belinda 'Dang' Suarez

Recruitment Executive, Manila based

Madam Dang,

that's what I exactly was saying.

IF everything is going smooth, visa is issued in 3 days. When it comes to the nationality, some visas will NEVER be issued, no matter how long they are sitting in the Ministry, and no matter how regularly you "follow up by the Qatar Employer's staff with the Visa Section".

I said that visa can be issued in 3 days - and I mean it - if there is no any COMPLICATIONS, such as NOC, such as blacklisted Company, such as nationality factor, etc. In these cases, as I said, work visa might take forever, or even will never be issued.

Also again, there are NO any other documents are required except of passport copy, Grad Cert ( for the higher level positions) and/IF a NOC letter. So your insisting on “preparing all required documents” point is not valid, unless this is an excuse for your clumsy action.

And definitely, some companies are too slow - PROs are lazy, or/and the person who is following up the cases, like yourself, is irresponsible/incompetent, or/and have bad relations with the authorities, or/and God knows what else... And other Companies, where the workflow is organized perfectly, can do things that the first type of Companies can only dream about... but this is another story…

Thank you very much for the compliment.

I also admire you on the way you have been replying to the various pleasing or not so pleasing comments that you have received since you opened the topic. Commendably, you have answered them intelligently.

Lastly, you look cute in your photo.

Regards and best wishes,

Dang Suarez

Recruitment Executive

[email protected]

The above statement of yours is a very good one which seems to validate the previous statements made by Madame Belinda 'Dang' Suarez.

You yourself as a hired employee has actually experienced the 4-months waiting, while based on Ms. Suarez' actual experience on recruitment, the two to three months of waiting can be considered not really a bad case.

So this forum is really a very good venue where we can read happenings based on actual experiences coupled with encouraging advices.

We are proud of you, treysdad and Ms. Suarez, and we consider you as two of those who have written the best comments and responses to the topic which I have opened.

We reiterate our thanks and best regards to all who are spending their valuable time just to share their experiences and knowledge on the issue being discussed here.

Jerome del M

For me it took more than 4 months for me to receive the visa after I have sent the company (I was a direct hire) the documents they needed.

A visa approval taking a longer time than usual depends on a lot of factors such as:

1. Internal processes in the commpany your brother applied to.

2. When was the NOC issued / When did your brother leave Qatar?

3. What were the circumstances of leaving? end of contract or termination?

4. Where is the intended work location? You mentioned a Japanese company. If it is a Japanese company in Ras Laffan then it would require additional security checks.

5. Company hiring your brother. There may be previously pending visa application being processed for the company.

6. Nationality. There are additional checks for certain nationalities.

Your brother just have to be patient. As I've said I waited more than 4 months - I submitted all my documents in January 200X. At end of February, they sent me my contract for signature and assured me they are processing the visa. They sent me the visa at mid-May. And I received the e-ticket on June 1 for a June 2 flight to Doha.

Some people here are only good in theory, and they seem to have forgotten that this forum is universal or international in scope.

In recruitment and processing of Work Visa, many factors affect the visa processing duration just after all required documents are submitted to the Visa Section of the Ministry of Interior of Qatar.

These factors are the following :

1. Type of Work Visas - Temporary Entry Work Visa, Permanent Work Visa and Multiple Entry Permanent Work Visa. (The type of Visa that Mr. Jerome refers to is the 3rd one mentioned)

2. Nationality of the person for whom the visa is applied.

3. Regular follow up by the Qatar Employer's staff with the Visa Section

4. Thorough Security Check involving NOC

5. Possible change of some rules within the Visa Section with emphasis on stricter procedures. etc

Some people here speak of things as - 'Easier said than Done'.

You have to think on a wider range rather than focus on hearsays, my work experience is actual, unlike yours- perhaps by theory only- try to do actual recruitment and follow up on visa processing, not just by theory, and possible isolated and rare cases. Let's be universal and international.

Thanks and regards.

Belinda 'Dang' Suarez

Multi-awarded Recruitment Executive, Manila

QS over to you :-P

Some people here are only good in theory, and they seem to have forgotten that this forum is universal or international in scope.

In recruitment and processing of Work Visa, many factors affect the visa processing duration just after all required documents are submitted to the Visa Section of the Ministry of Interior of Qatar.

These factors are the following :

1. Type of Work Visas - Temporary Entry Work Visa, Permanent Work Visa and Multiple Entry Permanent Work Visa. (The type of Visa that Mr. Jerome refers to is the 3rd one mentioned)

2. Nationality of the person for whom the visa is applied.

3. Regular follow up by the Qatar Employer's staff with the Visa Section

4. Thorough Security Check involving NOC

5. Possible change of some rules within the Visa Section with emphasis on stricter procedures. etc

Some people here speak of things as - 'Easier said than Done'.

You have to think on a wider range rather than focus on hearsays, my work experience is actual, unlike yours- perhaps by theory only- try to do actual recruitment and follow up on visa processing, not just by theory, and possible isolated and rare cases. Let's be universal and international.

Thanks and regards.

Belinda 'Dang' Suarez

Multi-awarded Recruitment Executive, Manila

Passport copy, NOC. Nothing more required.

hey it also depends on the nationality, as i have mentioned earlier... individuals of some certain nationalities might never get and type of visa... you never know.. but again, saying that 2 month-process for issuance a Work visa is a "normal practice" is just nonsense and complete misleading..

flor, what "All documents"?? all you need is a passport copy, copy of the Graduation Certificate, and NOC (IF the person has worked in Qatar perviously within last 2 years)

We are able to secure the Work visa + RP (a Residence permit!) within 10 (TEN) calendar days from the Clients request, if the request is urgent.. and Dang is talking about 2 months for only Work visa? what a nonsense.. She just doesn't know how to work and too slow in her "whole processing from securing all documents and providing the documentation"... I am wondering what kinds of "documentation" she is "providing" during 2 months?? LOL..

I am waiting for the past 13 months but yes in theory it takes 3 days :-(

the actual processing of visa once submitted to the immigration office.

What Dang is saying is the whole processing from securing all documents and providing the documentation. I hope that clear the issues! Good morning to all!

Dang, 2 months for issuance a visa??? are you al right, habibi???

guess what... the normal process for the Work visa is 3 days... if, as i said, the Quota is already approved.

and if you are implying that you work at this field, and it takes for you more than 3 days to issue a work visa, your services are sucks! next time send your client to me, and he/she will be much happier to get a visa in 3 business days..

If it takes more that 3 days since the APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, it means there is some problem with the NOC, with the nationality, with the Company (some companies can be blacklisted without even realizing it, and when it comes to any new visa application, they get informed that they have to fix some issue first - it could be many different things - and then to apply for the visa). And again, if everything is in order, 3 working days is enough to issue any type of visa.

Improve your services, Dang! Actually , better leave them on the same sucks level, more clients for us..

I agree with QS. It takes 3 working days to get approval for a work visa.

It happens this time that he is very busy in his business while i am the one who has ample time infront of a computer.

I think you have now deviated from the main topic- which will render the discussion unfruitful.

Anyway, thank you for spending your time.

Jerome del M

but I just wonder why are you the one annoyed and we never hear anything from your brother. Are you your brother's keeper?

He already experienced working here and as a professional and knowledgeable individual, I honestly believe that your brother knows all the answer to your querries (with regards to visa and immigration requirements for OFW). Am I missing something here? Are you the one applying here?

He is not annoyed in waiting for his Visa, because while waiting for it, he is still busy with Subcontracting business in the Philippines completing his work up to the 2nd week of June 2010 as mentioned by him.

All kinds of work need patience, like me a CPA observes patience in my own work ever since I worked in the Philippines and other countries.

Lastly, we do not need negative unsolicited advice on whether he will go back to Qatar or not.

Thank you.

Jerome Del M

annoyed now just waiting for the deployment, I would be very sure that it will be annoying if he lands here. Working here means a lot of patience and if you think your brother doesn't have that kind of patience, my advice, don't go here!

I would think that you have misinterpreted my statement .

I have only made a suggestion to invite somebody who is working at the Qatar Visa Section, an ideal person who may validate what Ms. Suarez has stated.

I dont think you will have the right to close the door for an invitation - and that is a negative feeling with pessimism.

Who knows, somebody from that Visa Section will happen to participate in this discussion.

Their website has already been visited but not much information about the matter are found.

Anyway, we are still open and optimistic for a further enlightenment from persons who does not show fibers of arrogance.

Thank you.

Jerome Del M

even think somebody from the MOI will response to you. Just visit their site and try to search and look for the infos you want. But just a sideline advice, rules here is not that quite dependable as some rules are change without prior notice. As the famous saying in our dialect "weather-weather lang yan". Anyway, goodluck to you!

Thank you very much for sharing with us your valuable knowledge on Qatar Visa Processing - that shows not only that you are very competent and expert in your field but also a person who has shown concern to encourage your compatriots to search for advice and solutions.

Excellent as it appears to me and maybe to most of members-readers here, BUT some of the information you have shared with us remain to be proven.

To ascertain a higher degree of credibility, I would seem to suggest or to invite somebody, a real authorized person, ideally one who is working at the Qatar Ministry of Interior Visa Section to validate or confirm what Ms. Suarez has stated.

In my opinion, any absence of a credible validation or confirmation from an autorized person working at the above-mentioned government entity may render Ms. Suarez' statement - partially correct or not entirely correct.

Furthermore, your statements regarding the existence and processing duration of a Permanent Work Visa of multiple type have totally contradicted the comments from Qatarisun, fapmg and philipe as appearing above.

Who among them is correct? Ms. Suarez or the 3 commentors?

May I invite other interested members-readers to participate in this discussion by answering the question.

Thank you very much.

Jerome Del M

To : philipe.juls

From 'Dang'

As a Recruitment Executive, let me state my knowledge about Work Visas as follows :

1. Qatar Work Visa is of 2 kinds, namely : Temporary or Permanent

Provided that all requirements are complete and submitted on time,

2. Qatar Temporary Work Visa is issued for a duration of 3 to 6 months ( this kind of work visa is easier to process, and it takes about 3 days to a maximum of 7 days to process).

During the 3 to 6 months period (as the OFW is already working in Qatar), a Permanent Work Visa has to be processed and issued before the expiration of the Temporary one.

2. While Qatar Permanent Work Visa is of 2 types, namely Single and Multiple.

Single Permanent Work Visa is issued for 1 year only, such that when an OFW is to exit after 1 year of service and re-enter, his re-entry visa will have to be secured again before he takes his vacation. Processing takes 4 to 6 weeks.

While Multiple Permanent Work Visa is issued for 2 years or more , such that an OFW can exit and re-enter as frequent as necessary but using the same visa, provided that the exits and re-entries are approved by his Employer and government authorities. The point here is , he uses the same visa throughout the visa duration of 2 years or more. Processing of this type takes about 6 to 8 weeks provided that all requirements are complete and submitted on time. It is also important that follow up with the Visa section has to be made by HR staff regularly. Understandably, thorough security check involving required NOC may further lengthen the processing and eventual issuance.

Thank you.

Belinda 'Dang' Suarez

I am Belinda 'Dang' Suarez, a Manila Recruitment Executive for Overseas Jobs.

To : Qatarisun and fapmg

Issuance of Qatar work visa within 3 days is not quite possible. It takes a superman to do that. Please do not make statements like that, as it might discourage applicants to wait within a correct estimate of visa processing duration. The correct duration of which is about 4 to 8 weeks if all requirements are submitted on time by the Employer. I believe alloted visas are available for the (Japanese Company as mentioned by Mr. Jerome), which therefore not the cause for delay.

To : Stanley

I dont think 'under the table' will be the reason of delay. Can you expound where the 'under the table' thing may take place? Manila or Qatar ? Are you an OFW or just a 'Mere Observer'?

To : Stealth

You said : sometimes it would take a longer time.

Under what circumstances will the Work Visa processing takes longer sometimes?, assumming that all the requirements have been submitted on time. As you were the one among the 4 above who has given an encouraging comment to the issue written by Mr. Jerome, please expound your statement.

Me, being a Recruitment Executive, I think that the most probable reason for the delay is : a late application filed by the Employer.

Belinda 'Dang' Suarez

more than 3 months to wait is REALY A BURDEN FOR YOUR BROTHER.. all have forgotten.. there is no such a thing as multiple permanent work visa for qatar.... Im from hr processing the same thing... for our kababayan....the best way is to check with poea to make sure there is a visa request. or, get back to the employer and let them wake up their agency...

since your brother used to work here, they are evaluating the issuance of visa thoroughly. Hopefully, they issue it soonest!

even then sometimes it takes a longer time.

bro, under the table lang yan

Thank you very much for your nice reply as it really made sense to note of the various factors that have surely affected the currently long wait that is taking place for the visa issuance.

1. When did the Employer submit the application - we don't know - that's right.

2. Approved allocated visas for the position and nationality for the Company - difficult to know also.

3. You are right also on the additional Security Check because he was required to submit, and he submitted NOC to the new Employer as provided by his previous Employer in Qatar.

We reiterate our thanks for your comment and advice as well.

Best regards,

Jerome

As said by Qatarisun it takes only 3 days... and some companies do it online on the same day. Waiting 3 months is a waste of time, it is better to search for another job...

everything is normal in Qatar.

Actually the issuance of Work visa takes maximum 3 days. But this is if:

- application is submitted by the Company (they might have forgotten about it)

- the Company already has a Quota for this particular position +nationality +gender (if not, then it might take forever to get an approval)

- the application isn't going through the additional security check (at this stage visa even might be rejected)

But.. if any of the above mentioned factors aren't there.. no one can tell when and what and how long...

good luck on waiting.. and hey, there is nothing wrong with considering other job offers.. your bro might get even something better.