Where's the Passion?

This one I used to have.Not anymore.

BB, you mean you saw this Passion?,

http://autos.maxabout.com/twid0000340/hero-honda-passion-pro-power-start.aspx

(i can't live without a google/wiki help, prism is right :P)

A bit Tinku. Just a bit.

I saw one Passion in my office today morning for an interview. She was quite nice.

no problem tinker, amber liquid supplement will help prism too for switching his 'ignore mode' OFF...lol

Prism, thank you for your nice words, off course it's 'typical Indian' with 'some words of English', copied from Wikipedia using Google; you're right. Thanks for terming us idiots n other enlightenment.

please don't go on switch-off mode, we need you :)

TFS we have 2 categories indians and typical indians , and if one is both he is an idiot LMAO

I'm sure this comment of prism is for tinker, BG and obviously not for me :)

tinker it's all because of your ROFL :)

Just goes to show who wants to be ranchod das and who has capacity to get onto a serious discussion without saying this you cannot that you cannot. Typical of Indians who think typing a few words in english and some wiki knowledge with the help of google makes them all knowledgeable.

Anyways, since I dont take idiots lightly so "ignore mode" is switched on for few of them with immediate effect.

tinker?? what makes you roll on floors?

our 'own' ranchhod das or amber liquid supplements?

BG, watching movies is not good, :P

it spoils :)

translation Ranchhoddas unloaded double gun barrel

agree DarkKnight,

only OP is mission passion it seems, rest are fully passionate in whatever they're doing here.

he needs some pep-talk and amber liquid supplements :)

रणछोड़ दास was also one of the idiots from the movie 3 idiots :)

रणछोड़ दास is the term used,lovingly, for warriors who leave the battle midway :)

the guideline says provide English translation; being correct is perceptional.

Q: Why you don't see passion for professional excellence? A: Why would I seek professional excellence here? I will keep my head down, do what is asked of me, will save money for a few years and then will head home.

English only on the main forum. If not translaton to english should be accurate and should have relevance to the subject.

Go and recharge your batteries, then come back more resolute and filled with more passion :O)

As to my experience and observation, passion lasts about 3 months from the day of arrival.

My passion has been undermined for past few months. Not getting enough motivation.

But you show no passion regarding the topic :O(

This discussion has no passion too :( Thats coz some passionate QLers didn't contribute (yet!)

but...they ARE breaking the ground of all Doha roads. Traffic is so jammed because of this.

LP...Einstein...just to argue on Indian mindset... hmmmm, sometimes I dont know why discussions get twisted knowingly and intentionally when they are actually not required just to show or impose supremacy. Anyways, since I am not game for either but for a slightly healthier discussion in a lighter vein without the only intention to prove my point until death, I have to say I am out of here...:(( People really need to lighten up and dont get nervous at the mention of India or Indians. How many times do we see here Qatar being compared to west even for the size of the dust particle or how the dust particle rises in the air. Anyways before I leave, I drop that Indian mindset, sorry if it got on the nerves of quite a few. Quality discussions, we crave for!!!

LOL shoot !

I’m holding my double barrel gun fully loaded…just waiting !

Yeah, somehow, BG. Aren't we all Indians?

he must be having indian mindset even though not indian

What Einstein "needed" was a place to stay and food, Prism. He could not have survived without it. What he "deserved" was something else. So, he worked in the Swiss patent office for a ridiculously low salary. Did he lose his passion for physics? No. Was he an Indian? NO!

LP... it is not an absolute vaccum on needs which I would offer personally (anywhere..:)) ...say something like froma 4 bed penthouse with car park on my floor to a three bed normal apt with basement parking...:)

There is something called drawing on ones experience or personal experience...not necessary everything needs to be talked or can be talked in general. I think it gives more credibility to my position when I can quote something from personal experience. (May be I missed an 's' somewhere which could have avoided the frown). Moreover it is my choice how I want to carryon with the discussion. Someone doesnt like it, dont engage, but no one for sure cannot ask me not to.

Prism, if you don't get what you need, you can't survive. Maybe your definition of "need" differs from mine.

LP...I understood it the same, for you it is what you get or more but for me I am good with a discount on needs... something Indian...:)

painther, don't (start it, please).

I wonder why QL discussion lately turn towards India...!

there's nothing as Indian mindset,

A kerala mindset is unlike a manipuri mindset or a punjabi mindset.

This is a country driven by Oil and having an entire career with oil industry until recently I can say there have been research papers submitted quite regularly by the geologists, chemists, maintenance crew, drilling and seismic crew, well logging, wireline and of similar professionals on the extraction techniques, tool design, mud design etc. in the earlier companies I worked with.

I just hope the executives arent considered as workers...:)

The "option", Prism, is:" ... it could always be more."

Anyway, you said something about "Indian mindset." Let me tell you, I am, according to the linguists, a member of the indogermanic language family.

i guess he needs to drink redbull :)

OP is mixing many issues here:)

He’s saying no passion (professional) in Qatar and concentrate only on expats, and forgets Qataris. OP fails to observe professional passionate growth in many areas of life of Qataris, by Qataris;

OP doesn’t see ground breaking initiatives. Well, there are many ground breaking Initiatives in Qatar almost in every sphere of life, one just need to see around beyond ‘expats’ perception’.

Research papers are expected from workers?? Where? In which country ? Wrong expectation!!!

I’d say a typical expat grumbling syndrome :)

LP...dont know where I am reading you worng..."Well, maybe I belong to a different species. First, I love what I'm doing. Then I ask for what I need. If I don't get it, I would go somewhere else. So, I am here, doing what I like, and getting what I need. However, it could always be more"...didnt see the option of discount on needs.

You are just guessing, Prism. What if nobody can pay me justly? I will always, no matter where, work for less.

LP...I considered the discount on needs which I think isnt acceptable to you, hence the Indian touch ....:)

No, it's not a specific "Indian" mindset, Prism. I am not from India, unfortunately.

I can compromise on what I need at times (not entirely though, just around 10-15%) but not what I like...but that is kinda Indian mindset of professionalism and desire for achievement...:)

Na'am, brit.

Keep publishing the research papers and keep on passionately doing what you enjoy..

Well, maybe I belong to a different species. First, I love what I'm doing. Then I ask for what I need. If I don't get it, I would go somewhere else. So, I am here, doing what I like, and getting what I need. However, it could always be more.

What if one's passion is to make money?

LP not everyone is fortunate here to get a job they love to do... or to start something they love to do...

Money is least relevant when it comes to passion...passion cannot be fulfilled part time...:)

"Take the example of a teacher. The pay here is peanuts and Im talking about Indian Schools. Yet there are many who continue for the PASSION of teaching. "

I would suggest that most teachers here (especially from developing nations) are doing it for the money...

"The pay here is peanuts and Im talking about Indian Schools. Yet there are many who continue for the PASSION of teaching."

"The salary is NEVER enough. We do our job because we are passionate despite the injust salary."

What the hell is the difference, TB? You are saying exactly what I said!

TB...that seems more relevant to Qatar or GCC as a whole... quite many people become very money centric once they reach here inspite of change in financial status for good and settle down in the daily routine. In Indian context it is entirely different and I for myself keep that alive in me...:)

There's a general lack of Employee Engagement in the companies here. Employers feel that EE is an added burden to their bottom line. I think there's a need to educate the employers on the benefits of having engaged employees.

Since it is agreed there is a difference between what we have to do and what we want to do, IMO if someone has passion about what he wants to do then what he is currently doing cannot stop him because to fulfill his passion there isn't dearth of avenues, just need to invest some extra time than otherwise would have been required.

once we come to other countries in search of employment we have to remove passion self respect and knowledge before boarding yr flight

I disagree. The salary is NEVER enough. We do our job because we are passionate despite the injust salary.

I dont think many people are doing what they love to do..as TB said pasion comes only if we are doing something we love to do..here most people are loving their salary not the job!

Tinkerbell ur 100% correct everything in gulf is by wasta and no respect for passion

I would agree with BB....passion about ones profession shouldn't be limited by your present job or any job for that matter. For rest of the things like no research papers from here, etc. agree with other posters.

"The working classes" in most countries are the labourers and the "worker bees". Yes, many are passionate about their jobs, but on the whole, they are not the ones who "change the world"

"many research papers not coming out of Qatar"...??

are you still in dreams, Wake up, It's Monday afternoon :)

Creativity lies in freedom, fair competition not in nepotism.

for some passion is at ramada car park :o)

Shisha - Being passionate about job has little to do with your current job and more to do with your future aspiration.

bring personal relations 'in' when at work .. don't like positive criticism .. generally have false pride ..

Why should anyone be passionate about their job when they know that growth is based on so many other things apart from talent?

One of the reasons could be the lack of coollective bargaining and discouragement of labour rights issues which has lead to the dilution of overall environment for progressive thinking.

This coupled with closed ended contracts doesn't allow room for people to think out of the box.

that's the working class that we are, then THEY will receive commendation, and enormous salary increment.

Passion can only develop when creativity is encouraged.

And creativity can only develop when freedom is granted.

BB, you're quite right i am busy with boss' research papers

in dohanews

I thought working class elsewhere changed the world!

Working class and research papers ?

Like anywhere else, the "working class" are just trying to make a living and get by.