this 8000 saudi riyals flat was already my payment per year excluding electricity and water. though the place was not as nice and located at the rooftop of a residential building without elevator, it's quite painstaking when i moved in... i don't want to experience it again... by the way, mr t_coffee you said you have discos and alcoholic beverages are quite allowed here, compared to Saudi Arabia... well, i guess you can say if you're a Muslim, the government's gesture is quite appropriate because two holy muslim site are located in that country... they are very serious about dealing with this mode of enjoyment... no moviehouses too... well, we learned also how to deal with them.. i presume qatar is also getting good signals of european channels, re. the Hotbird??? well, somebody out there knows what i mean...