im not shouting... im just giving emphasis..sigh,. greentea you know its hard to beat the generation now a days, if i could compare my time with my bro now its just not right to see him with his friends doin stuffs. Yeah your absolutely right that home is the first & simplest community for a child to grow but then again when your environment influenced one of your loveones it does bothers you. My bro is not that into vises but if it continues im just scared for him. your fortunate you dont have this drama in your home.