If you tell this in the first place, they had better idea to come out. See, you can help flor, you always say to do it in the legal way. Hmmmmm..... I got a headache with this thread...lol... You mean flor, there are agencies here in the philippines if you got hired they will issue business visa, which is that agency is not doing the rules here, there are many agencies who are very strict because of the procedures in POEA and OWWA that was not that easy to apply with here. That's why we are taking risks of applying directly to the company instead of applying in an agency here. There is much difference between applying directly and here through agency. Actually, anyway, thank you flor, i am really learning from you. btw, what agency is that so i can apply also then see for myself... am i right?