Anything you quoted, chota, has no meaning at all, because you don't say "when" it will happen. If someone asks you "when?" your answer should include a precise date, otherwise it's only gibberish.
Narrated, "Allah's Messenger Peace and blessings be upon him said, 'The hour will not come until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the Earth will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before."
YUP, I call them QL’s "science fanatics" and to be quite honest I don’t find those any less irritating than the religious holier than thou folks keyboard warriors.
I agree with you, Marco. But, on the other hand, science has gone through development. Sure, some scientific "laws" have been altered or even abolished, but the general trend is towards more and more precise predictions, and not into the opposite direction.
Well I think some of our QL self-proclaimed scientific gurus and Think tanks have the wrong understanding of what science is (I am saying this respectfully of course). What mean by this is that science is not always going to be right anyway because sciences not suppose to be seen as something that is absolute because sciences is falsifiable what I mean by this is that evidence that sciences provides may be proven wrong by later findings.
LP has a point, like for a sick person for instance, a person having a stage 4-5 kidney failure doctors can simulate when it can last through the progress of the disease..
as to the exact date no of hes last breath one can predict..
Allah says, ''So thou wait for the day when the heaven shall bring a smoke manifest surrounding the people this is a painful Chastisement.'' ( Surah-Dhukan)
Wasila-Bb-l-Asqa reported, ''I heard the Prophet saying, ''The final hour will not come until you see ten signs. '' (one of the ten mentioned was the smoke) (Muslim)
It is clearly evident from the above verse and Ahadith that the smoke is a major sign of Qiyamah. It will rise and cover the whole world. The smoke will affect both the believers and non-belivers alike remaining for a period of 40 days and night. The believers will be affected a little as if suffering from cold while the smoke will enter the brains of the non-belivers and make them unconscious.
There will be three landslides before like never seen before. One in the East, one in the West and one in Arabia. The Earth will swallow everything above it and as a result, many people will die. However, everybody will be raised according to his intentions. This will take place when evil prevails.
your life ends. Either way, it will happen. As to the exact date, no one knows and it will never be known. It will come like a thief, no one knows when it will strike! And those who laugh now, hope you can still laugh when the time comes.
But we haven't catered for the Vogon Construtor Fleet bypassing Alpha Centauri and suddenly coming upon an insignificant planet in their flight path to Galambatus iV :O(
The rising of the sun from the west is also a major sign of Qiyamah proven by the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Allah says in the Qur'an, "The day when some signs of your Lord will come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good (by performing deeds of righteousness) through his faith." (Surah Al-An'aam)
We know how many liters of "fuel" the sun has, TB. We know how much it uses every second. We can predict when it stops shining and collapses. Just as we can predict when you'll be out of petrol.
It could end tomorrow or even tonight...Theres no way of really telling when the world will end, although of course contradicting to my examples it wont end in a day... it will be a process...
TB, if you have 100 liters of fuel in your tank, and your car uses 14 liters per 100 kilometers, you can exactly say after which distance you will be out of fuel. That's NOT speculation!
The funny thing is that religion doesn't tell you "when". I guess, it's because they have no clue. Science can predict the "end" by calculating the amount of mass that the sun loses through the fusion process(5 million tons per second and as you all know, it's the annihilation of an electron and a W+ particle which is required to change an up-quark in a proton into a down-quark to make a neutron out of the proton), and from the current size of the sun, science can determine when the end will be there. There is no reason to 'believe' it, it's a simple calculation.
The sun has hardly enough mass to become a super nova. But in 4 to 5 billion years it will begin to expand and scorch the Earth with around 400 to 500 degrees Celsius. The Earth will still be there, but life can't survive these temperatures. So, the Mayas were wrong, and Nostradamus was wrong. But if you still believe in them, it's your choice.
Yes it will end, and I sy uggest you give all your money , your house back home etc. tp me straight away since you will not need it anymore. Same goes for all others that also are sure of the end.
Theres a prepper craze going on here right now and its ridiculous..Chicken littles! All my nieghbors are doing it and if the proverbial $h!t does hit the fan i'm afraid I might have to kill them all and steal there supplies... in order to take care of my family..Thats the plan anyway- I'm not joking around, that is actually the plan
I told my neighbor to get more freeze dried steaks in there, and some Slim Jims, smoked oysters and sardines
Religion aside, yes there will be an end of the world. It could be tomorrow or hundreds of millions of years from now. It is simply inevitable the Earth will be struck by a large enough object to create another extinction event. It has happened many times in the past. Then there are the odd chances of Gamma Ray Bursts or the inevitable Supernova of our own Sun. That is scientific fact.
At least I believe it would and of course my convictions are completely based on my religious faith and beliefs. But how and when,Allahu alam. We do however see some of the signs and yes the widespread of tribulations and strife are among them.
Are you talking about the end of the Mayan Calendar?
So, the world's going to end December 21st, 2012, huh....?
Since Ceasar introduced leap years in 45BC, there have been 515 leap years including this year(so im told). Without those extra days, the date would be the ~12 of November, 2013.
Since the Mayan Calendar didn't use leap years, the apocalypse (21st of the 12th 2012) was ~11 months ago... So congratulations on surviving!
Things are far far better than any other times before. Communication is possible if you want to. Facilities are more. Poverty is reduced.
Enjoy the moment.Even a simple cup of tea. Because even a simple cold could kill you if it turned into Pneumonia..Let the world end when God's time comes...No use panicking about it..
The signs are everywhere. Civil unrest has spread to peaceful countries like Myanmar. There is strife everywhere. Drone attacks continue. Earthquakes are becoming more frequent. Weather is acting up.My PC crashed and the bicycle remains lost. If these are not the signs then what is?
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december 21, 2012 is it for real? I need to go home before that date..
Anything you quoted, chota, has no meaning at all, because you don't say "when" it will happen. If someone asks you "when?" your answer should include a precise date, otherwise it's only gibberish.
u still have time LP , wish u all the best :)
Narrated, "Allah's Messenger Peace and blessings be upon him said, 'The hour will not come until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the Earth will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before."
Tell me the date, man. Is it 2012 or in 4 billion years as I predicted?
How can I see when the whole world is covered with smoke? And when is it going to be?
TB..
as i stated its not certain..
but it gives as proof that it will end eventually..
its science that answered most if not all our queries..
YUP, I call them QL’s "science fanatics" and to be quite honest I don’t find those any less irritating than the religious holier than thou folks keyboard warriors.
LP when u see the smoke .It will rise and cover the whole world
When? chota.
I agree with you, Marco. But, on the other hand, science has gone through development. Sure, some scientific "laws" have been altered or even abolished, but the general trend is towards more and more precise predictions, and not into the opposite direction.
sheeva u will know when the time comes
Well I think some of our QL self-proclaimed scientific gurus and Think tanks have the wrong understanding of what science is (I am saying this respectfully of course). What mean by this is that science is not always going to be right anyway because sciences not suppose to be seen as something that is absolute because sciences is falsifiable what I mean by this is that evidence that sciences provides may be proven wrong by later findings.
TB..
I believe the Mayan Calendar was not base on Scientific Calculation..
it will end but to when no one knows..
like we humans, as to when no one can tell..
LP has a point, like for a sick person for instance, a person having a stage 4-5 kidney failure doctors can simulate when it can last through the progress of the disease..
as to the exact date no of hes last breath one can predict..
I hope so. Then all the good and the bad people will have to kick the bucket, then we're all be squared.
Allah says, ''So thou wait for the day when the heaven shall bring a smoke manifest surrounding the people this is a painful Chastisement.'' ( Surah-Dhukan)
Wasila-Bb-l-Asqa reported, ''I heard the Prophet saying, ''The final hour will not come until you see ten signs. '' (one of the ten mentioned was the smoke) (Muslim)
It is clearly evident from the above verse and Ahadith that the smoke is a major sign of Qiyamah. It will rise and cover the whole world. The smoke will affect both the believers and non-belivers alike remaining for a period of 40 days and night. The believers will be affected a little as if suffering from cold while the smoke will enter the brains of the non-belivers and make them unconscious.
Only God knows but I hope my life would end before it happens....So eat, drink and be merry:)
The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. ... "Three things are infinite:
the universe .
human stupidity.
and I'm not sure what the Third one is.
LP how did science come into being
Og, chota, you don't even know what we are talking about. Typical.
TB, dead sure!
are we talking abt the time or about the end
chota, I told TB a date. What is YOUR date? Don't you know it? Are you too stupid to know it?
chota, "... when evil prevails." What date is this?
Am I missing something here .... ??
Helllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
the post is about 2012 isn't it ?
LincolnPirate: and no one said they both mean the same thing. So you don’t have to go there.
I said it, 4 billion years from now. You can calculate the date yourself.
the evil - the one eye devil
the topic is Will the World Really End?
"... when evil prevails." What date is this?
When exactly, cs? What day, what year?? Tell me when. Or can't you?
If it ends it ends!
I think there is a difference between "prediction" and "speculation". But I am not willing to flood the site with linguistic gibberish.
Does it predict HOW the world will end in 2012 ??
r the below facts ? theories
There will be three landslides before like never seen before. One in the East, one in the West and one in Arabia. The Earth will swallow everything above it and as a result, many people will die. However, everybody will be raised according to his intentions. This will take place when evil prevails.
And when you have a plate full of food, and you eat it all, it's only in theory that the plate will be empty, right?
MN, and it's also a theory that you'll be out of fuel after you ran your car for a certain time, right?
LP: You can only theories, estimate, predict, and speculate. But nothing for a fact or certain.
your life ends. Either way, it will happen. As to the exact date, no one knows and it will never be known. It will come like a thief, no one knows when it will strike! And those who laugh now, hope you can still laugh when the time comes.
We can only predict if we have reliable data. There are no data available on how many babies are in Villagio.
But we haven't catered for the Vogon Construtor Fleet bypassing Alpha Centauri and suddenly coming upon an insignificant planet in their flight path to Galambatus iV :O(
What is your religion BB? I know it is a silly question.
The rising of the sun from the west is also a major sign of Qiyamah proven by the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Allah says in the Qur'an, "The day when some signs of your Lord will come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good (by performing deeds of righteousness) through his faith." (Surah Al-An'aam)
We know how many liters of "fuel" the sun has, TB. We know how much it uses every second. We can predict when it stops shining and collapses. Just as we can predict when you'll be out of petrol.
Galileo ?
It could end tomorrow or even tonight...Theres no way of really telling when the world will end, although of course contradicting to my examples it wont end in a day... it will be a process...
For sure the world will not end this year, i bought a sardines yesterday and will expire 2013..
who invented science ?
TB, if you have 100 liters of fuel in your tank, and your car uses 14 liters per 100 kilometers, you can exactly say after which distance you will be out of fuel. That's NOT speculation!
Yes.. My advice is to take a very large loan and go out with a bang (pun)
The funny thing is that religion doesn't tell you "when". I guess, it's because they have no clue. Science can predict the "end" by calculating the amount of mass that the sun loses through the fusion process(5 million tons per second and as you all know, it's the annihilation of an electron and a W+ particle which is required to change an up-quark in a proton into a down-quark to make a neutron out of the proton), and from the current size of the sun, science can determine when the end will be there. There is no reason to 'believe' it, it's a simple calculation.
When we say ' world ' will end ;we mean ' the world as we know it '
"the end" is already mentioned
Atleast for my grand mother, who passed away on Jan 29th, 2012.
It will surely end according to religious belief and as according to LP's explanation which is scientific.
The sun has hardly enough mass to become a super nova. But in 4 to 5 billion years it will begin to expand and scorch the Earth with around 400 to 500 degrees Celsius. The Earth will still be there, but life can't survive these temperatures. So, the Mayas were wrong, and Nostradamus was wrong. But if you still believe in them, it's your choice.
Why worrying about the end of the world?? Life is too short friends.....enjoy what you have now and breath as you can.....for tomorrow may never come!
Who knows when..........?
It might be today or may be tomorrow but it will be lets make our today best bcz if it is you can't stop it and if it is not you can't make it
Well that depends if you believe in the big crunch or not.
Of course, this world will end .. but when it's time?just Allah Almighty know
All that is on earth will perish .. Except Allah Almighty
Allah Almighty says:
{ كُلُّ مَنْ عَلَيْهَا فَانٍ وَيَبْقَىٰ وَ جْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو الْجَلَالِ وَالْإِكْرَامِ فَبِأَيِّ آلَاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ }
Translation:
{ All that is on earth will perish} Verse No: 26
{ But will abide (forever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.}Verse No: 27
{Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?} Verse No: 28
Quran... Chapter Name : Ar-Raĥmān
Yes it will end, and I sy uggest you give all your money , your house back home etc. tp me straight away since you will not need it anymore. Same goes for all others that also are sure of the end.
Theres a prepper craze going on here right now and its ridiculous..Chicken littles! All my nieghbors are doing it and if the proverbial $h!t does hit the fan i'm afraid I might have to kill them all and steal there supplies... in order to take care of my family..Thats the plan anyway- I'm not joking around, that is actually the plan
I told my neighbor to get more freeze dried steaks in there, and some Slim Jims, smoked oysters and sardines
u guys are shrooming
Religion aside, yes there will be an end of the world. It could be tomorrow or hundreds of millions of years from now. It is simply inevitable the Earth will be struck by a large enough object to create another extinction event. It has happened many times in the past. Then there are the odd chances of Gamma Ray Bursts or the inevitable Supernova of our own Sun. That is scientific fact.
At least I believe it would and of course my convictions are completely based on my religious faith and beliefs. But how and when,Allahu alam. We do however see some of the signs and yes the widespread of tribulations and strife are among them.
Are you talking about the end of the Mayan Calendar?
So, the world's going to end December 21st, 2012, huh....?
Since Ceasar introduced leap years in 45BC, there have been 515 leap years including this year(so im told). Without those extra days, the date would be the ~12 of November, 2013.
Since the Mayan Calendar didn't use leap years, the apocalypse (21st of the 12th 2012) was ~11 months ago... So congratulations on surviving!
Elegance, Poverty has Reduced??? Are you Serious???
I think, Yes World would come to an end, It has been Said in Quran, Bible....
Nostradamus, has also Predicted the World Coming to an end, & What ever He Predicted has come true, at least Most of it has had...
Things are far far better than any other times before. Communication is possible if you want to. Facilities are more. Poverty is reduced.
Enjoy the moment.Even a simple cup of tea. Because even a simple cold could kill you if it turned into Pneumonia..Let the world end when God's time comes...No use panicking about it..
No
The signs are everywhere. Civil unrest has spread to peaceful countries like Myanmar. There is strife everywhere. Drone attacks continue. Earthquakes are becoming more frequent. Weather is acting up.My PC crashed and the bicycle remains lost. If these are not the signs then what is?
tiga - You are right and I wish the new world is better than this one.
it will BlueBull..
other wise the design of this so called earth is not logical..
it has to end so that it will be replace with a new one.. a better one..
just a thought..
I think it will definately end. Nostradamus was sure of it. So were the Mayans.
Its a million dollar question !!!!! No answer for this.
Dont worry, its endless.