about the US needing to improve it's maternity provisions and certain other areas. Why you think I did is beyond me.
What I HAVE said is that Qatar is clearly not equal (or better) with Canada in women's rights, and for you to go around espousing such when there are clear restrictions here on women that do not exist similarly there is just plain ignoring the facts.
Now you're comparing women modelling for perfume ads with prostitutes...
Wow.
I think as long as someone CHOOSES to do something (model, wait tables in a bar, becomes an actress) then it's hard to argue that that is abuse. You might say there are certain jobs that you find exploitative (like prostitution -- and before you even go there, it's a job that is not legal in most places in the world, so please don't start), but I would argue that if a woman chooses to follow that path, without being under duress, then that is her right.
You of course will disagree.
And actually, YES, I do know (personally) of some Qatari girls who have 'turned tricks' -- mostly to receive gifts/money from the men they were with. I've also seen Bahraini and other GCC ladies engage in this. Typically they have the sense to be very careful about where they do this -- because if their brothers or fathers found out, there'd be another honor killing to keep stats on.
(And guess what? When they're ready to get married, they fly to Bahrain or another GCC country, under the pretense of buying their wedding gold, and then they have their hymen surgery done there a few days before the wedding, and -- TA-DA! -- they're a virgin again!!).
And when a female student has the "RIGHT" to bring her father along when she studies abroad -- well, you might call that a kindness, but I call it not being able to travel on your own.
Again, you clearly don't want to count any of these things a evidence of the status of "women's rights" here, or you choose to believe they don't happen here in this 'pure' society that evil western influence is corrupting.
As I said before, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou
about the US needing to improve it's maternity provisions and certain other areas. Why you think I did is beyond me.
What I HAVE said is that Qatar is clearly not equal (or better) with Canada in women's rights, and for you to go around espousing such when there are clear restrictions here on women that do not exist similarly there is just plain ignoring the facts.
Now you're comparing women modelling for perfume ads with prostitutes...
Wow.
I think as long as someone CHOOSES to do something (model, wait tables in a bar, becomes an actress) then it's hard to argue that that is abuse. You might say there are certain jobs that you find exploitative (like prostitution -- and before you even go there, it's a job that is not legal in most places in the world, so please don't start), but I would argue that if a woman chooses to follow that path, without being under duress, then that is her right.
You of course will disagree.
And actually, YES, I do know (personally) of some Qatari girls who have 'turned tricks' -- mostly to receive gifts/money from the men they were with. I've also seen Bahraini and other GCC ladies engage in this. Typically they have the sense to be very careful about where they do this -- because if their brothers or fathers found out, there'd be another honor killing to keep stats on.
(And guess what? When they're ready to get married, they fly to Bahrain or another GCC country, under the pretense of buying their wedding gold, and then they have their hymen surgery done there a few days before the wedding, and -- TA-DA! -- they're a virgin again!!).
And when a female student has the "RIGHT" to bring her father along when she studies abroad -- well, you might call that a kindness, but I call it not being able to travel on your own.
Again, you clearly don't want to count any of these things a evidence of the status of "women's rights" here, or you choose to believe they don't happen here in this 'pure' society that evil western influence is corrupting.
As I said before, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."
-- Maya Angelou