Step-children

Flyaway
By Flyaway

I may be considering a move to Qatar from Dubai; is it possible to sponsor my step daughter without any permissions from her natural father?

She has my surname as she had my wife's maiden name before we were married and no contact with her natural father so we are unable to provide any letters of no objection.

Anyone been through something similar?

By HeniHuDz• 29 Dec 2012 17:17
HeniHuDz

Any updates on this thread?

We're in a similar situation. I'm the natural and legal mother of my child. No father is listed on the birth cert. My husband has been raising the child since an early age. Never had any issues ...but reading this thread I'm starting to worry.

By fioreny• 21 Sep 2011 19:27
fioreny

hello tatess,my husband just got hired ny qatar airways and and they informed us that my daughter (4) cannot be under his sponsorhip. She is 4, lives with me and I have legal custody. Can you tell me how did your company did the paperwork? You don't have to give me confidencial or private info, but please kindly just give me an idea so I can tell these people that it CAN be done in fact. Thanks A LOT...my email es fioreny at hotmail.com 

By marycatherine• 2 Jun 2009 15:44
marycatherine

Can the mandoop (fixer) at your new employer make enquiries purely on the documents you do have? What I mean is, can he start the visa process before you arrive to see if there are any sticking points with your documents?

Signature line > "You can't fix stupid"

By Amoud• 2 Jun 2009 15:36
Amoud

Nethers, my ex husband signed a coonsent for my son to be under my husbands sponsorship, I am not sure why you cant get the same done.

Flys situation is different, the birth father is not around to consent and she has no father listed on her birth certificate....

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By nethers• 2 Jun 2009 12:33
Rating: 4/5
nethers

I would ask the HR department for your new company!

I have been here 15 months (came from Abu Dhabi) and my stepson still has no residency, his birth father will not consent to adoption but provided a letter stating he could live with us(legalized) but immigration will not accept anything but an adoption paper or birth certificate bearing my name!

If your going to work for one of the QP group QP/QG/Ras Gas etc - they will just take the stance of "it's not your child" so you will have to pay school fees, medical - everything yourself - and arrange 6 monthly visit visas yourself!

By Flyaway• 30 May 2009 18:28
Flyaway

Alexa, yes we are Western which is why I think we may not have had an issue here in the Emirates - just a headache for them and a shudder at our complicated lives no doubt if they start asking too many questions!

We are probably worrying about nothing and will all go smoothly as here, just could do without any nasty surprises!

By Mandilulur• 30 May 2009 17:05
Mandilulur

Actually, let me amend that suggestion. Your company's HR department would probably give you the best advice.

Mandi

By Mandilulur• 30 May 2009 16:58
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Mandilulur

Hmm, I think it's an interesting issue - do you go with the "she's mine and there's nothing to say she isn't" or go with the court order proving sole custody. Me thinks it's lawyer time!

Mandi

By Flyaway• 30 May 2009 16:55
Flyaway

No, he has never been heard of, my wife obtained a court Residence Order for her when we left our home country for the UAE just in case it was an issue at Immigration. So legally she is our responsibility with us through the court rather than assumed (or kidnapped!) from his non-contact. Would that make a difference do you think?

By Mandilulur• 30 May 2009 16:39
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Mandilulur

Flyaway, it's not so much that Qatari authorities are lax/not lax so much as the system is so opaque. What goes for one is not always consistent with what applies to another. What is the law one day does not seem to hold true the next. I do know that Qatar - of course - would want to avoid at any cost all involvement with a messy international custody issue. I certainly believe you when you say that the biological father has no interest. Is there anything on paper that would indicate she has another father than you that could come back to bite you?

Mandi

By tatess• 30 May 2009 16:37
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tatess

immigration did not ask for it.The only requirements they asked is my sons birth certificate ,me and my husband's marriage certificate ,QID ,hubby's NOC and salary certificate

By ashwindoke• 30 May 2009 16:14
ashwindoke

flyaway - I agree when you say here it is very strict for getting VISA for Females . .

My company finds it really difficult to get VISAs cleared for female expats . . . don know age of your child... but the gender really makes things tough...

n Qatar is not as strict as UAE... so there is a hope...

and best help I can offer is keep this forum on top :)

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By Flyaway• 30 May 2009 16:05
Flyaway

No I didn't, he was never around to ask permission (which you need) and now lives in the States from what I can gather.

He knows she exists but has never been in touch or had contact and I have had her since she was a baby. Seems a bit unfair if we suddenly needed his permission really...

The Dubai authorities just seemed to accept the situation in the fact that she has my name and that we weren't married when she was born; I am concerned about upping and leaving our life in the UAE to then be denied a visa for her.

So if anyone has experience then I would be most grateful to hear it, I just seem to get the impression that the Qatari's may not be so lax about it, particularly as she is a girl.

By Amoud• 30 May 2009 15:58
Rating: 4/5
Amoud

My situation is a bit different as I had to get my sons father to sign over sponsorship as he was living here and was moving to another country and my son was staying with me.

A friend of mine brought her son here in the same situation. I am not sure on the paperwork that was required but it obviously can be done. As you all have the same surname and there is no father listed on the birth certificate I am not sure what they will ask for. It may be a little messy and incomprehensable to local authorities but I can assume that once you start the RP proceedings for your family and all the names are the same it may go without a glitch.

Just a quick question, did you legally adopt your step-daughter?

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By Flyaway• 30 May 2009 15:22
Flyaway

Tatess, did you require an NOC from your son's father for your husband to sponsor him?

By Flyaway• 30 May 2009 15:20
Flyaway

Thanks, here in Dubai you need the birth certificate and of course her's doesn't show any parentage at all, just her own name (my wife's maiden name) and we have always accompanied it with her change of name deed (done by my wife just before we got married) and made the (honest!) statement that we weren't married when she was born. Really, are the Qatari officials particularly strict about this as it hasn't been an issue in Dubai..?

By ashwindoke• 30 May 2009 15:20
Rating: 3/5
ashwindoke

Mandi - Hmm... Mumkin....

thks...

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By tatess• 30 May 2009 15:20
tatess

my son from previous marriage is under the sponsorship of my husband and they dont have the same family name.

By Mandilulur• 30 May 2009 15:16
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Mandilulur

Well, ash, probably because his name isn't on the birth certificate. Flyaway, it can be done as it has been done here. I believe Amoud has been in this situation so you may wish to PM her.

Mandi

By ashwindoke• 30 May 2009 15:09
ashwindoke

Is she has your name...

Who is gonna check her DNA out here to see whether she is step or real daughter ???

I mean to be frank... how the officials here shall find she is a Step Daughter and not yours?

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