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Timebandit which free will to change the holy book

God gave us free will, and I am exercising mine. MR do as you want, and stop blooming preaching at us.

thanks for sharing when it is prohibited u can change the book and eat !

Thanks for sharing this passage for the knowledge of everybody. I really like that portion when it says that it is not what comes in the mouth of the person that makes him unclean but what comes out of it. God looks at the heart of the person. A person can never deny what is in his heart. So, for all pork lovers, indulge!

Yes, some do regard pig's testicles as a delicacy ..

bollocks!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want to be next to Timebandit when the lightening bolt strikes :O(

Gammon joints and ham shanks all sold out

ok as u say so !

I commend you for your belief, and I respect your views. Please reciprocate.

for example Quran says Alcohol is haram it remains haram ( no new and old ) , few muslim drink its sin but they did not change the holy book for drinking

See above

Timebandit when it was clearly prohibited in the old testament how did it changed in the new

It has been explained to me in a similar way to this:-

Please note that this was required by God of His people in the Old Testament.

He set up many laws to keep His people pure. As pigs were seen as animals that

ate garbage etc. God called them unclean. Pigs/pork was not an acceptable

sacrifice for the attonement for sins. However, in the New Testament, this law

was "lifted." Because of Jesus' death on the cross (and resurrection),

sacrifices were no longer needed as Jesus was the final sacrifice and faith in

Him was the only way man could be pure before God. It was no longer necessary

for God's people to leave by these strict rules. God declares this once

unclean food clean in the following passage in a dream to Peter.

Acts 11:4-10

"4Peter began and explained everything to them precisely as it had happened:

5"I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw

something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners,

and it came down to where I was. 6I looked into it and saw four-footed animals

of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles, and birds of the air. 7Then I heard a

voice telling me, 'Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.'

8"I replied, 'Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my

mouth.'

9"The voice spoke from heaven a second time, 'Do not call anything impure that

God has made clean.' 10This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up

to heaven again."

This sentiment is backed up by Jesus in Matthew's Gospel (New

International Version)

Matthew 15:10-11

"Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. What

goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes

out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' " "

And again in Matthew 15:16-20

""Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. "Don't you see that

whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the

body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart,

and these make a man 'unclean.' For out of the heart come evil

thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony,

slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed

hands does not make him 'unclean.' " "

Both Jesus and Paul said that it did not matter what you ate which

included pork. As has been said before, the Old Testament clearly

states that pork is forbidden under the kosher laws which is why some

Jewish people do not eat pork. Christian doctrine however, does not

accept kosher food laws for the reasons noted above.

same price for a 3kilos of turkey for thanksgiving...lol!

MR you think I will burn in the fiery depths of hell for eating pork, and I don't believe I will.

I will have my judgement day, and I guess the mater will be cleared up then.

We have a difference of opinion. I cannot change yours, and you cannot change mine.

And so ends the debate that I didn't want in the first place.

so if vicar says anything is ok u will do the same

don't tell me vicar dint read the bible

Look my vicar invited me round for a nice pork roast, and if he say's it's ok, then that's good enough for me.

did u miss to read its unclean , prohibited

nice bible TB !

Oh hang on... that was the Cooks Bible.

It says take 1 slice of streaky bacon, 1 sage leaf and one chipolata sausage.

Wrap the bacon around the chipolata in a spiral motion, inserting the sage leaf half covered in the middle.

Repeat this as necessary. If feeding more than 5 thousand, be sure to warn your butcher in advance.

Place the warped sausages on grease proof paper and then into the oven for around 20 minuets at 220 degrees.

And thought shall have a right tasty snack. Best served with red wine, or a glass of water (and hope for a miracle).

Time bandit no need to debate just tell me what does bible mention about pork

source came from the land of kilts until supply last...hehehe

Any idea who blew down the walls of Jericho to get to the gammon ?

Yup... but not going to be drawn into a religious debate here.

TB Haram for u also did u read bible ?

Taco Bell is Haram ................. :)

That's nearly £50 for a gammon joint! Blow that.

At eye watering prices - and a BIG tip for you all out there, check the size of the gammon joints some are way bigger than others but cost the same price QAR279 each... you have been warned!

Joints, Shanks... Reminds me of my woodwork classes.

For you, for you!

haram haram !

Yum yum!

Oink Haram !

meow!