abt Islam Convert

abdulkaderm
By abdulkaderm

HI,assalamu alikkum,My name abdul kader. i am in indian. i am coming Qatar for looking job.. inshallah i can get job over here. becaz allah giving good talent for me. but my problem was another.befor i am working in UAE. my company was terminated me. my girl friend was in UAE. she is working ther in UAE. we r plan to get married. but she non-muslim, she ready to convert to muslim, after that we going to marrage. but the same time i lose my job. now our parents know abt that.. in india very big issue for convert & marrage. our both parent not accept our marrage. now i don't know wht i do. i can convert my girl friend here in qatar?, then i can married? becaz i am in visit visa, she also coming soon by visit visa... it possible both r in visit visa. we both r educated & we have experiance.. so we get job in qatar. i need help for convert islam & our marrage.. anybody abt this, can u assist me pls.. becaz we both r very ceritical position.

By Shafran H89• 19 Jan 2012 12:32
Rating: 4/5
Shafran H89

couldnt agree more with Doha-Chap2022 & FathimaH.

we are all born without religions. it is from our parents we get it or we change it to another with time & deep understanding.

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according to my knowledge & what i know, other nationalities cannot get married in DOH, as many cases have been reported where men & women being married in their country of origin or else where, some even having kids & yet being married again without any legalities completed. i had to go through this last year & listed below is my personal experience.

any other nationalities who wish to get married in DOH, should get a certificate / letter signed & attested by the ministry of foreign affairs from their mother country, certifying that he/she is single. also they should have both the parents consent signed in front of a Justice of peace from the mother country & the same doc should be attested from the same JP. if two people meet the above requirements they can visit the relevant embassy in DOH, submit the docs & get married within 2weeks (not sure of the duration) as the embassy once again sends the papers back to their native country for further procedures & once they have got it back the couple can do the legal registration in the embassy.

the process is more easier if you both can go to your mother country, get married there & come back to DOH. yet make sure your girl is visiting your mother country under vacation, for if you wouldn't get a job in DOH & if she looses her job in UAE, both would fall in deep trouble.

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he has found the girl in the way she is & fell in love with her for who she was & how she has brought up. so if he tries to change her now, in the time to come & after being married, he might even someday point out at her & say "you are not what you used to be" which might create problems between both of them & make it even worse as they are married.

if he converts the wife, very hardly we would find people committing them selves from their body & soul to another religion apart from the originate one.

the girl mentioned in the post might have agreed to convert just for the sake of him or for the love or care which she has for him, he mentions him self as an educated individual, yet inst mindful enough to understand the truth which is within.

he has already put him self in trouble & according to what i see he has very less chance of succeeding in DOH. if he cannot succeed in UAE, being another Arabic country how can he succeed here??

better he returns back to his mother country & get a job there while thinking twice about both the Girl & the marriage. if he brings her here, making her quit from her job in the other country & if he looses the job here both will fall in to a big mess, which is actually created only for the wish of this mindless man!!!

By FathimaH• 19 Jan 2012 11:50
FathimaH

Couldn't agree more. I know of ladies who for the sake of marrying a Muslim BF not only converted to Islam, but even adorned hijab,prayed, started reciting the Quran etc only to abandon it all when their marriages broke down!

On the other hand my hubby originally converted for the sake of an ex, in order to marry her, but Alhamdullilah though their relationship fell apart, he still remained a Muslim and actually became stronger in faith. Similarly I know many gals who likewise remained Muslims though their original intent long ceased to exist.

It is after all up to Allah. But I would advice the OP to first let his intended get to know Islam. Study the faith properly,meet other Muslim converts etc and then decide whether or not she wishes to actually convert.There should be no compulsion in religion.

And finally a Muslim man can marry a Christian or Jewish lady without her having to change her faith.

By anonymous• 19 Jan 2012 10:48
anonymous

OP You (deleted by mod) Post you self and not hide behind the mask of 'Indian'....you want to show that your English is so poor that you can't put two words together , yet seem to know all the short forms required….."abt, pls,u, becaz....??????"For you information bro, Indians with access to a computer and CAN AFFORD a girlfriend can do better in English, may be a thoroughly uneducated labor might write like you but I doubt if he fits in to your stated profile, Don't post topics hoping to start nationality bashing.

By datuabo• 19 Jan 2012 10:37
datuabo

My religon is my way of life so it has to do with it.

By lissa• 19 Jan 2012 10:33
lissa

What religion have to do with marriage.WTF...Fuck all and you also

By anonymous• 19 Jan 2012 09:43
anonymous

With all due respect. If someone reverted to Islam simply for marriage....They are living a lie and only fooling themselves. Allah knows the hearts true intentions. Islam is about true intentions and beliefs, not words or public image. I don't mean to sound judgmental. Just stating the facts

By Sal• 19 Jan 2012 09:41
Sal

No they dont! So arent they educated....when will people overcome their complexes?

By nicolprism• 19 Jan 2012 09:39
Rating: 4/5
nicolprism

Best solution is to go for a registered marriage in India , if you both are strong and it is easy in India. But at the same time, try to persuade one of the parents to support u then u can take their support and witness and get married and come here. I think that will be the best option, hoping that yr gf is also an Indian.(As I donot know the rules in India for other citizens,)

Conversion need not been an issue at all then.

By mohdata• 19 Jan 2012 09:29
Rating: 4/5
mohdata

Many of us are not too adept at correct usage of the language (second language to boot)and yet I always noticed and respected how QL users considerately ignored each others' mistakes. And then you come along on your high horse judging others when you could use a British Council language course yourself.

By ajnajn• 19 Jan 2012 09:27
ajnajn

Language is not a matter, my manager is getting 40K per month his english sucks but he is perfect in work. Everthing is possible in gulf.

By ajnajn• 19 Jan 2012 09:12
ajnajn

Dont worry about marriage & converting in Islam, just Try to get job. Inshallah everything will be ok.

By datuabo• 19 Jan 2012 09:08
Rating: 4/5
datuabo

You can get married any time you want. what you need is walie on the part of your girl friend like her father, brother, uncle or even her can stand as walie if no option because she is responsible enough to stand. Call an Imam from any of the masguit and explain your case and I am sure brother will help you. marriage is not hard thing and does not requires 3 years labour for just one day celebration.

By ishu369• 19 Jan 2012 08:53
Rating: 3/5
ishu369

doubt if you can get married in a visit visa.

we had a staff converted to islam and they waited till she got her Rp to issue her papers.

By anonymous• 19 Jan 2012 08:38
Rating: 4/5
anonymous

Educated person does not mean that he or she should be good in english literature. Japanese and chinese people are educated but they are not good in english. The ultimage object of using a language is to communicate our ideas..........................

By anonymous• 19 Jan 2012 07:59
anonymous

Maybe we should call it convertliving.com /: seriously!

By riaz_ak• 19 Jan 2012 07:52
Rating: 2/5
riaz_ak

Contact with "Awqaf or Al fanar" they will guide you in a better way

By GodFather.• 19 Jan 2012 07:07
GodFather.

Troll on the loose..Aim, Target, Shoot!

By FathimaH• 19 Jan 2012 07:05
Rating: 4/5
FathimaH

The guy wants advice regarding the legalities of marriage,visa and conversion, not English! The arrogance and shallowness of human minds never ceases to faze me.

Brother AbdulKader hope you Insha Allah find your solutions. I have no idea,sorry, about the visa situation and marriage formalities but I do know in Islam getting your parents approval for marriage whilst is a good thing, is not obligatory and it's better for you to do the right and just thing and marry your partner asap. Conversion is not an issue here, and places like FANAR will provide you with much help and advice.May Allah make it easy on you. Barakhallahu feek.

By Thaer• 19 Jan 2012 05:35
Thaer

Your English isn't flawless either. Just stating the obvious like you did.

By Hawk10• 19 Jan 2012 01:32
Rating: 5/5
Hawk10

Stating himself an educated person, and this type of fantastic English?

By the way, sure you both are above 18 years of age, therefore, your parents has nothing to do with your personal life as per the law. Everyone has the right to live his life as per his belief and marry to whom he or she wants. As you are on visit visa, you have to check this case with AWQAF, they will explain it to you in a very good way. Hope you will find some solution for your problem. Good luck

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