Walking with dog in Sheraton Park Doha?

Thanks Xena. The single most helpful information I've found on this thread.

besides to say that I was recently told, by a local, that I have a big chance at entering into Paradise because of what i do for animals and DOGS in particular...

Quite honestly, I prefer animals to humans and rather than risk their safety would stay away from walking my dogs off lead on the Cornishe.

There are other places that you can walk your dogs off lead. If you are interested their is a group called Dogs in Doha on Facebook that will provide your the info on dog walking groups and where they take place.

the flock. So it become to each his own. One Imam say something, the other others say different. So who decides once and for all to fix differences? How can there be unity if no one is leading?

This ruling in Islam came about due to certain incidents that happened to our predecessors. It was a command by our Prophet that like any other command is either followed or not followed by Muslims today. But like I said we do have family pics, (but some Muslims even keep away from that as well)) we just don't display them around our houses.

Hey guys! Dogs are mans best friend.. I think we will consider them like human too.. they help us a lot.. they will protect us..

family pictures are not placed or hanged on walls?

What was forbidden was kneeling/praying before images or pictures, because it connotes worshiping.

did they have photos back then when this rule was made, i dont think so,

so it had to be picture, not on walls but you can take photos have then iin frames on display in house but not on walls....OK got it now :( same as ramadam, they did not have cars and aircons in houses back then so it was not included in the no drink no eat rule of the sunlight.,,maybe it all should be updated to reflect the year 2012....

Thank god i practice Buddhism....

It's just a disaster(God forbid) waiting to happen!

I, as a sort-of-Christian, have always found the idea of putting up (and praying to) Mary and various Saints etc, as being rather against the true teachings of God. In that sense I agree with the Islamic teaching - there is no need to be putting up images of anyone or anything. At least not for religious purposes.

But I do live in an apartment with walls covered in art, including images of real and imaginary people. I just don't pray to them.

But back to dogs...

In any country, whether it likes or accepts or tolerates dogs, letting a dog run of lead in a public space is never cool.

This is a topic very disputed but I would say, based on the view I follow, since its not hung up in a home and not worshiped as a God, then it is fine and allowed and God knows best.

Glad to hear, Fatima. I was getting the impression that anyone who kept a dog is some sort of sinner or disbeliever.

But now you have me wondering - what do we make of the photos of the Emir and Heir Apparent that we find everywhere? Is it okay, since it's not in homes, but in businesses and hotels and shops etc?

The term "picture" is not to be confused with "photos" In Islam it is considered prohibited to draw/make pictures/images of beings with souls, except for educational purposes or matters of security, identification,etc. This is what is meant by pictures. It is pictures/objects(which includes statues) drawn or created by people of people,animals,birds etc. Also excluded from this prohibition are children toys like dolls, teddy bears etc. It is allowed for kids to have such toys and in fact even our Prophet's wife used to have dolls.

Now as for hanging photos of people on the walls then this is not in accordance with Islam and there are numerous reasons for this and not something easily explained. Suffice to say we just don't do it.

But that's not to say we don't have photos of our family members,friends,etc..we just don't hang them up on the walls.

And lastly the topic of "picture making" is not a clear case. Even major scholars of Islam have disputed in this regard. So my views, based on my studies and the scholars I take knowledge from may differ from another Muslim and that doesn't mean either of us are sinners. Its just not a black and white case and requires much studying and analysis hence not a topic easy to be discussed!

Your friends are certainly not "bad muslims" they are in fact very merciful human beings unlike those barbarians who go about torturing and oppressing innocent animals.

Many of my Qatari friends keep and love salukis. It's part of the culture for this part of the world.

I'm shocked to hear that this makes them bad muslims.

,,,, what muslims dont have family photos up in their houses,, REALLY IS THIS TRUE.

I heard Allah's Apostle saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal)."well is this true?????????????/

Whilst it is disliked for Muslims to have dogs in their homes, undoubtedly the dog is not considered despised and accursed as some folks make them out to be. Dogs are God's creation and humans must never mistreat them and be merciless towards them. In fact it has been narrated in two hadiths that a man and a prostitute were forgiven for their sins simply for giving water to thirsty and dying dogs.

Dogs make great guards and fab hunters. They can also be very loyal and helpful beings. Yes there are many times they have been known to turn violent and deadly even unpredictably, but that's the case with many animals. It doesn't mean people can go about killing them and abusing them claiming its for religious reasons(yes many people do this!)

As for the OP then I agree I will feel unsafe if I see an unleashed dog going around and this is because of the numerous horror stories I've heard/read on dog attacks. The lady in question shouldn't do what she's doing as she's risking the lives of others and even her own beloved pet by her actions.

Amir J, with respect... isnt it quite difficult to apply in modern day society Hadith - Bukhari 3:515? (i.e. do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature a human being or an animal)With TV and internet in almost every household i would say this would be quite impossible to adhere to. Also it does not explain WHY dogs are considered "dirty and disgusting"

That is Hadith, right? Not The Holy Qur'aan .

TFS

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"http://muttaqun.com/dogs.html"

Hadith - Bukhari 3:515, Narrated Abu Huraira

Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle." Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet, "unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms, or for hunting." Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting."

Angels Don't Enter

Hadith - Bukhari 3:515, Narrated Abu Huraira

I heard Allah's Apostle saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal)."

Hadith - Muslim, Narrated 'Aisha

Gabriel made a promise with Allah's Messenger to come at a definite hour; that hour came but he did not visit him. And there was in his hand (in the hand of Allah's Apostle) a staff. He threw it from his hand and said: Never has Allah or His messengers (angels) ever broken their promise. Then he cast a glance (and by chance) found a puppy under his cot and said: Aisha, when did this dog enter here ? She said: By Allah, I don't know. He then commanded and it was turned out. Then Gabriel came and Allah's Messenger said to him: You promised me and I waited for you, but you did not come, whereupon he said: It was the dog in your house which prevented me (to come), for we (angels) do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.

A Barking Dog at Night

Hadith - Abu Dawood 5084, Narrated Jabi ibn Abdullah, r.a.

The Prophet said: When you hear the barking of dogs and the braying of asses at night, seek refuge in Allah, for they see which you do not see.

Killing a Dog

Hadith - Muslim, Narrated Maymunah

One morning Allah's Messenger was silent with grief. Maymunah said: Allah's Messenger, I find a change in your mood today. Allah's Messenger said: Gabriel had promised me that he would meet me last night, but he did not meet me. By Allah, he never broke his promises; and Allah's Messenger spent the day in this sad (mood). Then it occurred to him that there had been a puppy under their cot. He gave an order and it was turned out. He then took some water in his hand and sprinkled it on the place. When it was evening Gabriel met him and he said to him: You promised me that you would meet me the previous night. He said: Yes, but we do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture. So the very next morning he commanded the dogs to be killed. He announced that the dog kept for the orchards should also be killed, but he spared the dog used for the protection of extensive fields (or big gardens).

Hadith - Mishkat, Transmitted by Abu Dawud and Darimi

The Prophet said, "Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one." [Muslim, Narrated AbuDharr: "...The black dog is a devil."]

Hadith - Bukhari 4:531, Narrated 'Aisha

The Prophet said, "Five kinds of animals are mischief-doers and can be killed even in the Sanctuary: They are the rat, the scorpion, the kite, the crow and the rabid dog."

Hadith - Bukhari 4:538, Narrated Abu Huraira

Allah's Apostle said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that."

Hadith - Bukhari 7:384, Narrated Adi bin Hatim

I asked the Prophet about the game killed by a Mi'rad (i.e. a sharp-edged piece of wood or a piece of wood provided with a sharp piece of iron used for hunting). He said, "If the game is killed with its sharp edge, eat of it, but if it is killed with its shaft, with a hit by its broad side then the game is (unlawful to eat) for it has been beaten to death." I asked him about the game killed by a trained hound. He said, "If the hound catches the game for you, eat of it, for killing the game by the hound, is like its slaughtering. But if you see with your hound or hounds another dog, and you are afraid that it might have shared in hunting the game with your hound and killed it, then you should not eat of it, because you have mentioned Allah's Name on (sending) your hound only, but you have not mentioned it on some other hound."

Hadith - Muwatta 2.36

Yahya related to me from Malik from Abu'z-Zinad from al-Araj from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah said, "If a dog drinks from your vessel, wash it seven times."

Don't see what all the fuss is about! :)

I walk my dog in our area and honestly, many locals stop just to touch my dog and their children to have a snap shots with our dog. I even go shopping with my dog. But I have also learned that many persons in lungi are afraid of dog even if it is a medium-sized dog like mine. I wonder why?

nothing as good as scaring the locals as they hate dogs,, dont know why,, you would be amazed at withi can lick with my tounge,,,

My dog smells pretty good and btw she always tries to sleep on top of my head.

She's such a sweetheart!

2012, yes, I agree, here and in countries who consider dogs as this, they surely should not be taken to public places.

For me this way of thinking, for what ever reason, is not something I can understand. But, it is what it is.

I know this though, camels are dirtier than dogs. I do like camels despite that.

nomerci--the VAST MAJORITY of people in this part of the world DO find dogs to be offensive and disgusting. Surely there are exceptions and some attitudes are changing. It is cultural, agree or disagree is your choice. But in consideration to the majority culture, dog's should not be taken to public places like this.

Ah...well, actually I do know quite a few people who are from this part of the world ,and in Qatar particularly ,who not only own dogs, but love and treat them as companions and friends.

So, the generalization of " they are considered disgusting and offensive in this part of the world" is not adequate.

There may be some people in this part of the wold who consider them as such though.

Dogs are considered dirty, disgusting and offensive in this part of the world.

2012..taking a dog to a public space is disgusting and offensive? Why?

As much as I agree that a dog should be on a leash when in public places...I don't understand why it is disgusting and offensive?

It is disgusting and offensive to many to take such an animal to public spaces. IMO it should be taken by authorities and owner fined. To not have it unchained is double bad. I surprised police were not called for this.

Now From On develop a Nature Of Seeing men & dogs rather other beauties in public parks

..... Get over it soon its happens once in a blue moon

are there any areas in Doha where a dog can let off a lead (apart from your garden) without fear of it being executed?

I would definitely not take my dog to a public park as it's not kindly accepted by most locals. All dogs should be walked on a leash... it only takes one foul, a call to the police and those guys in blue could shot your dog to death.

I hope this lady gets properly counseled by someone on this issue.

that dog should be chained up.. c0z even that dog is very well trained or friendly.. things can go bad..

like for example that dog misjudge any gesture of people beside him and he felt threatened then he would bark or bite back in defense..